clore
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What's really spooky is Frank telling Brigade "I almost forgot about it." It makes me wonder just how much other misery the man caused.
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>>It's the best ending of all the Budd/Scott westerns I think.
Emotional, unexpected.
Yes, we do see him exorcise his demons whereas in SEVEN MEN FROM NOW, DECISION AT SUNDOWN and COMANCHE TERRITORY he still has to put it together or even continue to grieve. With this film we can feel that he is whole again, probably remain a loner but no longer a bounty hunter.
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>>Oh my, that cracked me up!
What I like about the Ranown films are the discoveries that characters make while out in the wild. It's as if they become open with each other because the geography holds no barriers. As with Anthony Mann, the terrain becomes one of the main characters.
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"There's some things a man just can't ride around."
A favorite line for Kennedy. It shows up in this film, THE TALL T, SIX BLACK HORSES and SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL GUNFIGHTER.
"She ain't ugly" pops up again in COMANCHE STATION. Kennedy is so sparse with dialogue that he repeats it from film to film.
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Yes, it's talky but the dialogue rings true and most of it falls to the other characters. Scott is about as verbose as Tarzan. It's still my favorite of the Boetticher films, perhaps because it was the first one that I ever saw. This was on TV in December 1967. By then Scott was retired but Roberts, Coburn and Van Cleef were well known. I even got a friend who could not stand Scott to watch it because of the supporting players.
Now he's a big Scott fan and comes over here to watch my DVDs. That's 43 years now, my oldest friend and still the best one.
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>>And it happens to be my surname, to boot! We Lanes sure got around the West.
I'm sure that Kennedy did borrow from HONDO. Lane was Hondo's last name and Lowe was the name of Geraldine Page's character. In COMANCHE STATION, Nancy Gates played Mrs. Lowe just as Ann-Margret did in THE TRAIN ROBBERS.
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It is Coburn's first movie, he probably wasn't eating well until this point.
Karen Steele though will never be mistaken for a bean pole. She plays Mrs. Lane, a name that pops up often in Burt Kennedy scripts:
RIDE LONESOME - Karen Steele as Mrs. Lane
COMANCHE STATION - Claude Akins as Ben Lane
SIX BLACK HORSES - Audie Murphy as Ben Lane
MAIL ORDER BRIDE - Buddy Ebsen as Will Lane
THE TRAIN ROBBERS - John Wayne as Lane
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>>He made some interesting choices for his picks, a nice mix of genres and directors.
I really like tonight's line-up.
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Even though I have the DVD, I'm going to watch it just to hear what A. O. Scott (how appropriate) has to say about it.
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>>And I think that when My Three Sons left the airwaves in August '72, it then joined CBS' daytime lineup (reruns from the CBS years were shown, with the ABC episodes "lost" until they popped up on Nick at Nite in the 80s).
It probably also had something to do with the ABC shows being in black-and-white.
That show was a trendsetter in the way it was produced. The episodes were all written before the season would start and Fred MacMurray would come in and shoot his scenes. The rest of the cast talked to doubles or even a hat rack in his absence while he was off shooting Disney movies.
Brian Keith on FAMILY AFFAIR and Henry Fonda on THE SMITH FAMILY worked under similar conditions. Don Fedderson offered James Stewart the same system for his short-lived series, but he thought that was unfair to the other actors.
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I remember that switch. CBS was willing to commit to another series for producer Don Fedderson and a year later we had FAMILY AFFAIR.
NBC lucked out in a similar deal years later. ABC thought that TAXI had run its course. The fledgling Showtime was all set to sign it up, thinking that it would encourage new subscribers. But NBC had a pot sweetener, they promised the producers to put on their other project, sight unseen and that's how CHEERS was born.
ABC was so desperate to sign Disney in the 50s that they offered something to Uncle Walt that the others refused - they gave him the seed money to build Disneyland. In the long run they created their own monster since ABC is owned by the mouse house. The theme parks kept the company solvent when it was having a spell of bad luck during the mid to late 70s.
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>>ABC had only 3 big hits Maverick and Disneyland on Sun and Kookie on 77 on Fri. add Ozzie and Welk.
ABC also had THE ADVENTURES OF OZZIE AND HARRIET. Of course an adventure to Ozzie was getting up out of his easy chair. THE DONNA REED SHOW, THE REAL McCOYS and MY THREE SONS also had a long life. THE UNTOUCHABLES was another big hit for ABC in that period.
When ABC had Disney, it aired on Friday. It wasn't until the Fall of 1961 and the move to NBC that it aired on Sunday.
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>>Beaver was written from the point of view of the kids, rather than the parents.
Exactly, which is why the baby boomers remember it. We all had friends like Eddie Haskell, we did the same thing ourselves when we went to a friend's home.
And Beaver and Wally did outrageous things that other TV kids didn't do - such as changing a "D" to a "B" on a report card or falling into the soup on a billboard.
The titles give it away to some degree also, on FATHER KNOWS BEST the emphasis was on Dad, LEAVE IT TO BEAVER was about Beaver. When I was a kid, we had to order books from the Scholastic Book Club to help raise money for the school - I bought two "Beaver" books, they didn't have any about Jim Anderson or Donna Stone.
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In fact, the other days the admins of that site said they are going to take those threads and put them in a separate folder so that other threads in the former location can a chance to to appear at the top of the page.
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>>Yes, but aren't all posts time-stamped???
There's a Yuku site that I frequent where the admins call you to task for NOT re-activating old threads. There are threads there that go on for over a hundred pages, having been started years ago. A wealth of info could be found there and continually be expanded upon or debated.
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It reminds me of the time when I was in the seventh grade and THE AMAZING COLOSSAL MAN was making its NYC debut on TV.
I was telling my schoolmates about "the great scene" after they injected the big guy with the giant hypodermic needle. The scene was cut and they thought that I had made it all up.
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>>One reason Beaver's ratings lagged some of the others when it was on was that it was on ABC, which in those days badly lagged CBS and NBC. The number of TV markets in which ABC had affiliates was significantly less.
Yes, that's true. There is a bit of irony though - BEAVER originally aired on CBS and was canceled after the first season. But to ABC, the audience was larger than most of what was on their schedule, so they picked up the show.
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I just read on another web site that CYCLOPS is missing a key 10 seconds:
*Now this might not seem so bad, but it is the last 10 seconds when the Cyclops gets speared in his eye. It is missing the part where he pulls the spear out, blood dripping from it, and he groans in pain.*
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>>Drats, YOU CAN'T WIN EM ALL was 1 of 2 Tony Curtis movies that I didn't record cause it only had a 1.5 stars rating on the TV Guide.
Technically you only missed about half of the film. So did those who watched it since it's a 2.35:1 aspect ratio film that was shown in a pan-and-scan version. It made for an unusual opening credits sequence as it bounced back-and-forth from widescreen whenever there were words on screen to flat when it showed the action scenes displayed between the names of the talent involved.
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>>Was there any groundswell to come up with a "New Father Knows Best"?
There were two reunion movies in the late 70's - check out this article:
http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/father-knows-best-reunion-14199/
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But even if he's the son, he is a Dracula.
However, during the film, there is never a reference to his being the offspring. It is noted that the letters on his coffin spell "Dracula" backwards.
Again, if we're going to be that precise, then neither Lee or Chaney played a "Frankenstein."
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I remember that episode - Patricia Crowley was another one in that one. She was the mom on PLEASE DON'T EAT THE DAISIES. I got to meet her also when I was working for Columbia Pictures Television. Her husband Andy Friendly was promoting one of his projects and she was with him.
My questions were about her having appeared on the first MAN FROM UNCLE episode to air. This meeting was in winter 1987 and she had barely changed at all from the days of her series.
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She served me milk and cookies once.
No kidding - when reruns of the second "Beaver" show were being offered for syndication at the N.A.T.P.E convention in 1989, the distributor had the booth set up just like a kitchen and Barbara Billingsley was there in a dress and pearls and serving the goodies.
I got to chat with her for a good while as for some amazing reason, the booth was not crowded - surprising given the baby boomer age of so many programming execs at the time.
When I brought up AIRPLANE!, she said that she got more comments on that few-minute bit than for the many years of "Beaver" in one incarnation or another. She also spoke lovingly of Hugh Beaumont and when I brought up INVADERS FROM MARS she said that's the other title that people bring up.
She seemed astounded when I mentioned the film TWO DOLLAR BETTOR and even more surprised when I said that the director of that film, Edward L. Cahn, is a personal favorite of mine. She said he could make two films in the time it took them to make an episode of "Beaver."
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>>This is a 1935 Peter Lorre/Edward Arnold film that looks like it has never aired on TCM before.
TCM had a Peter Lorre night on May 4, 2009 and this was the first feature aired that night.
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It was just that we only expected "the real adversary" to just be one brother trying to save another. We don't expect that Brigade is playing a chess game. At the end, Frank is checkmated - he can't make a move. Unless Frank is willing to sacrifice his "knight" (Billy John) and move to another space out of danger.
All along we're just told that Brigade is a bounty hunter (even though several question his complexity), not until he tells Mrs. Lane the story behind the tree does it begin to make sense. Even then, we still think that he's interested in bringing Billy in even if it means killing Boone.
But having saved himself, Brigade can now be generous and help Boone and Whit to a better life - but not without a warning.
Edited by: clore on Oct 20, 2010 10:30 PM