clore
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I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I've never criticized anything about TCM. When I have, it was to dispute info given as facts during the intros that was in error. I also have gone out of my way to attribute such errors to the staff, not to the presenter.
But such so-called "facts" are all that I dispute. If Robert Osborne was to say that he thinks that Rita Hayworth is one of the greatest actresses ever, I won't ever consider disputing it as it's an opinion and he has that right of having one. I may not agree, but to state my disagreement isn't even worth the time.
Some here have jumped on my case when I have disputed "facts" but my only intention there was as honest as those here who defend TCM with statistics as to the vintage of titles and the percentage of them barely changing. As do they, I have an aversion to the dissemination of misinformation.
However, a lot of what I've been reading in this thread is based on misperception or personal prejudices. It either comes down to "there's too many movies that I don't like" or "The 'M' in TCM stands for 'me" and I'm not getting what I want."
Suddenly "less classic" is apparently defined by a particular year, aspect ratio, color process or what-have-you. Apparently an East Side Kids movie is more of a classic than a Beach Party one when in actuality, neither was ever considered anything more than fodder.
One thing I can say is that TCM has the most passionate fans of any cable or broadcast channel, whether I agree with them or not.
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I just find it amusing that someone can find their way to the forum to speak their mind, but can't find their way to the schedule to verify that what they have to say is worth saying in the first place. Even if there were three 80s films, why not check to see if it's tonight or tomorrow? It just negates all that follows.
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Y'all has got a funny language!
Yes, we have compound words such as:
barnyard
bartender
deathbed
goldfish
So, what is someone learning the language to make of the word "extraordinary?" If he were to define it as "more mediocre" he would be going in the opposite direction.
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Tonight or tomorrow night, there's going to be like three 80s films on TCM. why ?
Is it that difficult to double-check as to whether it's tonight or tomorrow night? Are you in that much of a rush? What do you mean by "like three 80s films?" Do you mean one 70s film and two 50s films? Is that really "like three 80s films?"
TCM underground has got to go. I don't care about what you all say.
OK, with that in mind, then please tell us why anyone here should care about what you have to say? Do you not understand how off-putting such a comment can be?
I think it's spoiling the channel by making people think it's ok to show trash.
One man's trash is another man's treasure, but again, why should we care what you have to say? See how that works when reversed? Besides, it's on at 2am in the morning, what better hour to show "trash" than one where few people are watching? There has to be something for insomniacs other than Skinamax.
I've been tuning in for the essentials for the past 2 weeks. I (sic) Drew Barrymore is ok. But I think the only reason they picked her was because her last name is Barrymore.
Yes, I'm sure the Barrymore name carries a lot of weight. Look what it did for her father and her Aunt Diana. Actually, they picked it because it came right after "Baldwin" in the Hollywood directory.
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We could probably use a little more info, such as approximate vintage, color or black-and-white - that sort of thing.
First thing that comes to mind is TAMMY AND THE DOCTOR.
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I always have a browser tab open to the forum page. It doesn't matter which one, but as long as I've been inactive on the forum for 15 minutes, I have to log in again.
It's rather annoying and I wish there was a setting to alter that. Not everyone shares a PC or has to worry about someone else posting on the forum under their name.
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John Kenneth Galbraith is reported to have said *“Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.”*
Some won't even go as far as trying to offer proof, they just want someone else to provide more proof or they modify the terms of the required proof.
However, as far as previous commentary has indicated, you should be advised that willbefree25 is a she rather than a he.
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It really depends on the tone of the film.
For example, I can accept the action in an Eastwood title made by Sergio Leone as they are so over-the-top in the first place. That his character survives the impossible is in line with the style of the film.
On the other hand, in HANG 'EM HIGH, Eastwood first survives a hanging, then he's gunned down at point blank range by four gunmen who empty their pistols and lives through that. To go one further, he's out on a picnic with Inger Stevens, the wind and rain pick up and though he has so many holes in him that he should be whistling, he does get weak and feverish, but he lives through that also.
But director Ted Post is no Leone, he adopts a no-nonsense approach to everything in the film other than Eastwood's apparently superhuman strength.
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Oops, my mistake. Thanks for catching that.
There was a mandate in effect for several years that all "A" level films would be shot in Cinemascope, so it may have been Zanuck who put that into effect.
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> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote}Hey, when TCM shows this black screen and plays the exit music, are we supposed to get up and leave our houses?
Yes, and if you can wake up those patrons who fell asleep during the film, the management would appreciate it.
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> I just don't understand why people need to talk to others this way. OP expressed an opinion about unnecessary letterboxing and this is the kind of response you think is appropriate? You can't just say you don't mind letterboxing without throwing in this kind of rudeness?
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It's rather ironic considering that TCMfan23's first post here was filled with complaints about what he doesn't like about TCM. Nobody told him to go away.
Apparently a case of "Don't do as I do, do as I say."
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The letterboxing isn't quite as bad as in your second link. Nothing appears distorted, it's probably the 1.85 print as seen in theaters.
Stevens would roll over if he saw that second link, he didn't care for Cinemascope-like ratios and only made ANNE FRANK that way because Zanuck insisted. The process was totally wrong for a film set in such a confined space.
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It is letterboxed on TCM HD.
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> {quote:title=JonnyGeetar wrote:}{quote} Oh! I like that cast! (Just this year I discovered Tuesday Weld.) That must be a pretty old teleflick though since Hackett's been dead since the early eighties.
It was made in 1974. It was directed by John Badham who went on to do the Langella DRACULA as well as SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER, BLUE THUNDER and WAR GAMES.
He also ended up back doing TV and his HBO film THE JACK BULL is one of the best westerns that I've seen out of the last 20 years.
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I watched the 1955 version a year or two ago (and re-watched a lot of it last night) and liked it too, but I rememer thinking- "gee, I feel really wrong about this, but I liked the Sharon Stone version better."
If you want to see yet another remake, try to find a copy of REFLECTIONS OF MURDER, a TV-movie with Joan Hackett and Tuesday Weld.
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It's titled "Bulls, Balls, Bicycles and Actors" as I recall.
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Maybe William Wyler took it.
Wyler and Bickford made two films spaced 30 years apart and Bickford was rather critical of the director in his autobiography. In short, he considered Wyler's methods more of a matter of being indecisive as opposed to being fastidious.
He used harsher wording though.
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You could be getting that script error message for a variety of reasons, it could be related to the use of a toolbar, Javascript, possibly another browser tab is causing the problem.
Best to roam around the following and see what may apply to your situation. In my case it was a Norton toolbar causing the problem. I disabled it (but not the Norton program) and I've not had that problem in months.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Ascriptonthispagemaybebusy%2Coritmayhavestopped+responding.&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
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I was tipped off about Patterson a couple of years ago when the film played on TCM. Someone had startd a thread about the film on the IMDb and I chimed in, saying that it was a Phil Karlson film that had escaped me until then. I had put in something about it being a true story making it all the more enticing.
Someone responded to me who had lived in Alabama, someone who had about ten years on me and thus lived through the Patterson years. He said he would get back to us after the movie aired and he did. His words on being a black teenager in Alabama and of Patterson's regime, well, they've stuck with me and spoiled my next attempt to watch the film.
He provided some links to support his recollections, but the post has disappeared from the site (inactive threads do that after 30 days or so) and the following is the only one that I can faithfully attest to having been one of them:
I believe there were either some links to NAACP or CORE pages, but I couldn't find them at this point and honestly, I don't want to further derail your thread. But, it is to me as much of a case of not being able to appreciate this film any more than I can MISSION TO MOSCOW.
But I did grow up in some rough Brooklyn neighborhoods and there were a few places that we knew of where gambling and other vices were given "attention" and we knew the store owners who were in on numbers games and also paying off the cops. The drug dealers did the same, it was known all over which were the corners on which to buy pot, heroin or coke - they were not the same ones either.
And you haven't seen anything until you've seen the underground gambling dens in Chinatown. I used to repair telephones and they had to let me in - through two sets of speakeasy doors that were about six inches thick, made of heavy steel. The precinct was right down the street, you can't tell me that they didn't know.
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> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote}I don't judge anyone by their Wiki bio. Wiki is the new McCarthy.
Gimme a break Fred, you quote Wiki more than anyone around here.
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A whitewash of a man who was as morally bankrupt as those he prosecuted:
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"Touch" was the brainchild of agent Henry Willson who also came up with the names Rock Hudson and Tab Hunter.
The other name was "Jay" Connors and even Connors has been spelled as Conners on a couple of occasions.
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Was there a rule that 50s war films had to have L.Q. Jones and Aldo Ray? They were both in BATTLE CRY, MEN IN WAR and THE NAKED AND THE DEAD.
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> {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote}So Brod lost the job of playing a man on crutches because he ended up on crutches?
Very good, and certainly accurate. Knowing Brod, he was probably having a quart of scotch for breakfast that day.
Suspension of Disbelief in Classic Film
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I hope all understand that I was being silly about English. All languages have things that seem odd to other speakers.
I never thought otherwise.