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> {quote:title=SueSueApplegate wrote:}{quote}
> Hope everyone had a chance to see the marvelous documentary about Clint Eastwood that was directed by his biographer, Richard Schickel, and narrated by his good friend Morgan Freeman. I especially enjoyed learning about Mr. Eastwood's motivating premises behind each one of his films that he directed, such as with *Bird*: People are "so afraid of failure that you automatically will it" and that the "tempations of life take away talent." I enjoyed learning about Eastwood's path as a director and the fact that he just didn't want to go home after work with "just a paycheck."
SueSue - As much as I enjoyed hearing Clint Eastwood speak about his films, and admire his positive outlook on life as well as his good health - I was taken aback by the number of times they gave away the endings of his films!
I can't be the only one who hasn't seen some of these - *Mystic River, Million Dollar Baby, Bridges* *of Madison County, Gran Torino*. They even gave away the ending of one I don't even know the name of - the one with Kevin Costner and his small son. I don't recall hearing the title mentioned in the show. Although I don't know the name of the movie, I know exactly how it graphically ends. The same in varying degrees with the above titles and others I can't recall right now.
Maybe it's a new type of documentary, and maybe it will be so long before I do see them, that I will forget the endings that were shown.
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> > Thanks to 'patful' for leading me to the "Drafts" area of the Control Panel and suggesting I delete them. Though neither he or I knew in advance if that would solve my posting problem, it worked.
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> Good tip. I just discovered I had about 20 drafts, some dating back to 2009, so I got rid of them. Thanks, guys.
*Great* tip. I just deleted about 25 drafts, which I had no idea existed. Thanks.
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Hey Kyle - That's got to be a frustrating (to say the least) situation. Hopefully, Admin is reading this and will try to help you get out from no man's land.
I don't feel like posting anything substantial until this latest situation (whatever it is) is straightened out. No use taking the time to put down thoughts that cannot be responded to.
I also hope that you can PM. If you can, of course, the best way is to send links to Admin, which I am sure that you can't.
We feel for you and hope to see you soon. cinemafan
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this is also a test of sorts
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Mr.6 - Thanks for breaking through and posting the schedule. I usually manage to watch the first three before I get too sleepy. I last saw *Nanook of the North* many moons ago in an Anthropology class.
This has been my favorite series in a while. I just hope some of the films are shown again sometime.
I love Prof. G's hand movements when he speaks. He's all over the place with the hand movements - very expressive.
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*very early Rita*
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FredC.- here is that excerpt from *An Open Book*, autobiography of John Huston, 1980, Chapter 26
"It was then that I made the mistake of agreeing to direct a Western called *The Unforgiven*. Hecht-Hill-Lancaster had come to me with the proposal. I read the script by Benn Maddow (who had worked with me on The Asphalt Jungle), considered the strength of the cast - Burt Lancaster, Audrey Hepburn, Audie Murphy, Charles Bickford and Lillian Gish - and decided to do it. I thought I saw in Maddow's script the potential for a more serious - and better- film than either he or Hecht-Hill-Lancaster had originally contemplated; I wanted to turn it into the story of racial intolerance in a frontier town, a comment on the real nature of community "morality." The trouble was that the producers disagreed. What they wanted was what I had unfortunately signed on to make when I accepted the job in the first place - a swashbuckler about a larger-than-life frontiersman.
This difference of intention did not become an issue until we were very close to shooting time, and quite mistakenly I agreed to stick it out, thus violating my own conviction that a picture-maker should undertake nothing but what he believes in - regardless. From that moment the entire picture turned sour. Everything went to hell. It was as it some celestial vengeance has been loosed upon me for infidelity to my principles.
Some of the things that happened are painful to remember. While were shooting in Durango in Mexico, Audrey Hepburn fell off a horse an fractured a vertebra in her back. I felt responsible, having puter her on a horse for the first time. No matter that she had had a good teacher, was brought on slowly, and turned out to be a natural rider. When her horse bolted and some idiot tried to stop it by throwing up his arms, her fall was on my conscience. It delayed shooting for three weeks. Then there was the near-drowing of Audie Murphy and an old friend of mine from Army days named Bill Pickens, who had gone out duck-shooting on a lake in Durango. Audie, who had a back hip from a war wound, couldn't swim, and Bill wouldn't leave him......
But in the end the worst of it was the picture we made. Some of my pictures I don't care for, but *The Unforgiven* is the only one I actually dislike. Despite some good performances, the overall tone is bombastic and over-inflated. Everybody in it is bigger than life. I watched it on television one night recently, and after about half a reel, I had to turn the damned thing off. I couldn't bear it."
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MissG - here's one I hadn't seen before.
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To all readers - the variety of topics on this series is a testament to our interest. Many different topics and conversations going on in this thread.
> {quote:title=rohanaka wrote:}{quote}
> Hello Cinemafan:
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> RE: Thunderheart
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> I caught most of it the other night too. A very unexpected suprise. I missed the first twenty minutes or so, but caught the rest.And I have to say it was better than I expected (as I started to get into the story) I happened on it totally by accident and did not know what it was as I was flipping through the channels. (ha.. I stopped to watch it because I could not figure out what Val Kilmer was doing on TCM, ha. I mean... come on... first Top Secret and now this..ha. It's a dadgum film fest for him. HA!! Ok.. kidding, only kidding... all you Val Kilmer people can sit back down)
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> But wow, I was drawn into this film the more I watched. I am not usually one for the mystical aspects that much of the story dealt with, (and I could have totally done w/out all the F-words that were flying all over the place too) but I have to say that I found the gradual 'awakening" of Kilmer's character (especially as he dealt w/ the Grandfather and got more and more drawn to him) really intriguing to the point that I had to keep watching if only to see how that part of the story would eventually play out.
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> I say again... I found it all an unexpected surprise.
Ro - I am enjoying this series very much - such a variety of films. Val Kilmer made quite an impression on me in *Tombstone*, so I'm up for checking out more of his movies on TCM. *Thunderheart* took place over three days, as I recall, so all the changes took place fairly quickly. I noticed it not only in his manner, but in his dress. He went from a suit to short sleeve dress shirt to polo shirt to tshirt and jeans. I am glad that you and I discovered this movie - and I'd like to see it again. Here is a photo of the late Ted Thin Elk, whose first movie role, at age 72, was in *Thunderheart*. (Val better keep an eye on that watch.)
![i]Y+TZxoIgibuNqX_WdyaR93CQKl5i9e9XA==.jpg](http://images2.cinema.de/imedia/2142/1862142,Ew1Au%5Bi%5DEgkhcCnRN91HfHi3IAdiDtfQoSZ289M3ycDlP4g3OvJEzu%5B/i%5DY+TZxoIgibuNqX_WdyaR93CQKl5i9e9XA==.jpg)
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JackF - I liked it - a lot of guns and action, but it was was entertaining. And interesting to see the changes Val Kilmer's character went through. He played an FBI agent and Greene was the local marshal. No horses in this one. And guess what, I'm glad that a newer movie played, 'cause it was new to me.
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Kyle, I just figured out that the "kid' is the goat, not the kid holding him!!
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> TCM has done a lot of "TCM Remembers" montages after a star dies, but for some reason, the one for Lena Horne seems especially touching. This insensitive brute almost cries every time he sees it.
If you're lucky, your PBS station will show Lena Horne: In Her Own Voice, An "American Masters" Special. Mine is right now.
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FredC - getting back to *The Unforgiven*, I found some of John Huston's reflections on that film in a book I have. I will post them here a bit later, when I have the time to type them up.
JackF. - did you by chance see *Thunderheart* the other night? I watched it because of Val Kilmer and Graham Greene. Very different for me, because it was a newer movie that I had never seen before.
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fredb and JackF - sheesh, you guys are a tough crowd (wink) - I'll stay away from recipes this time -
*Esther Williams*
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JackF - yes! and a big bowl of it because it's Curly Top's Favorite!
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*little Shirley Temple*
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Tonight's schedule - May 20 - all times Eastern
8:00pm *Devil's Doorway* (1950)
A Native American Civil War hero returns home to fight for his people.
Cast: Robert Taylor, Louis Calhern, Paula Raymond, Marshall Thompson Dir: Anthony Mann BW-84 mins
9:30pm *Little Big Man* (1970)
An American pioneer raised by Indians ends up fighting alongside General Custer.
Cast: Dustin Hoffman, Faye Dunaway, Martin Balsam, Richard Mulligan Dir: Arthur Penn C-140 mins
12:15am *Thunderheart* (1992)
An FBI man gets back in touch with his Native roots investigating a murder on a reservation.
Cast: Val Kilmer, Sam Shepard, Graham Greene, Fred Dalton Thompson Dir: Michael Apted C-119 mins
2:30am *Jim Thorpe--All American* (1951)
The famous Native American athlete fights prejudice in his pursuit of sports stardom.
Cast: Burt Lancaster, Charles Bickford, Steve Cochran, Phyllis Thaxter Dir: Michael Curtiz BW-105 mins
4:30am *The Last Hunt* (1956)
Two frontiersmen clash over the slaughter of a buffalo herd.
Cast: Robert Taylor, Stewart Granger, Lloyd Nolan, Debra Paget Dir: Richard Brooks C-104 mins,
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Bronxgirl - those are lovely pictures of Bette. Very nice.
There were NO street urchins in ROME ADVENTURE.
No street urchins, but it had a scooter.
There was one moment in *Rome Adventure* that was very touching. It was when they showed Suzanne and Troy holding hands under the table. I had it on in the background, and I realized that that was most likely for real at that moment for them.
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MissG - Thanks for that Wilkins coffee ad. I had never heard of Wilkins before. I guess it was an East coast brand? From what I read, the Muppets and Jim Henson got their start doing ads for Wilkins with very short, very violent commercials! Incredible!
When I first looked at your post, I couldn't figure out what the characters were supposed to be or were doing. Especially the lighter one. Early Muppets! And they had names.
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Sheesh, JackF - that's one hardcore commercial! Talk about a hard sell!
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filmlover - this is a movie that I grew up with - it seemed to be a staple on tv and we watched it every time it was on. So, it is a movie that I am very attached to. I came home the other night and it was on and, of course, I just started watching it again. This time, the music really stood out for me.
I don't have anything but a basic 19" screen, but as I stated on another thread, it has been so long since I have seen anything on a Big Screen - I need to experience it. I'm sure I would be blown away.
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> {quote:title=TCMWebAdmin wrote:}{quote}
> I apologize for not writing this earlier as I just noticed the absence of it myself.
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> The Code of Conduct is currently going through an overhaul. It should be up within the week. If not, I will find out exactly when it should be back up.
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> Thanks!
> -Renee
Renee, Thanks for responding - it's good to know that the Code of Conduct might be updated. You don't give any details as yet, but hopefully it will include a revamping of the current system in place - which is being abused by one person signing up as multiple identities in order to wreak havoc here. As I stated before, I know of no one who would choose to communicate in any way with a known fraud. It would also be most helpful to not let people re-register if they have been "kicked off" for misbehavior.
The current Code states very clearly that giving false information when signing up is not allowed. Hopefully, that will be addressed, as it is very clear that abuse of that rule is occurring on a daily basis.
Please keep in touch with us. Best wishes, cinemafan
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One of the best things for me about this series are the interviews that come at odd times between films. They can be on at any time of the day or night.
Tonight I saw one with Graham Greene and Wes Studi. Greene talked about how at first Kevin Costner didn't think he looked right for the part. Then he got the part, and as he put it 'was fat' and had to lose lots of weight for the role. He was very relaxed and humorous.
Wes Studi talked about how the scene in *Dances With Wolves* where he meets up with Robert Pastorelli's character (the one that I can't watch) and of course they show it again as he (Studi) is speaking. Turns out Pastorelli is laying on an anthill and the ants are attracted to the sugary substance used as blood, and he completes the scene anyway.
There is one with Professor G. and he talks about which portrayals he likes and doesn't. I was surprised to hear that he liked Burt Lancaster's portrayal in *Apache*, Robert Taylor in *Devil's* *Doorway* and Tony Curtis in *The Outsider*. I understand that these actors don't need his approval, but it is nice to hear their acting credited.
He did not think much of Judith Anderson in *A Man Called Horse*. But, he spoke without negativity, and again with a bit of humor and wondering.
I would like to see these again before the month is up.
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Mr. Ark - that Vitajex clip started my day out just right.
How about this for you okra fans? I remember okra as being "slippery" and remember - anything tastes good fried.
*The Fighting Okra, mascot of Delta State University, Miss*.
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Hey Kyle, glad you weren't shut out for long, and thanks for your contributions here. They are appreciated. cinemafan