cinemafan

Now we may be making some headway. Check out *fxreyman's* post on the locked thread. He has apparently made contact with TCM Renee. *IF THIS IS NOT A CRY FOR HELP, WHAT IS?* *TCMRenee* - *PLEASE DO YOUR JOB AND HELP US* Message was edited by: cinemafan to take out the extra "making"

Thanks, I've never seen that movie. I thought it was some sort of science fiction character. I also tried several before the one I have worked.

Mongo, head over to "Ask Mongo". I have a question for you there. Thanks.

Hey Joe, *We love you here*! I did not quite get the meaning of what "mongo" means, when I saw you last night. Would you explain again? Thanks,

OK Fred, you've gone too far this time. It's Easter, not April Fools Day!

Fred, you had me reeled in until I got to "gas bombs'.

> {quote:title=hamradio wrote:}{quote} > cinemarafan wrote: > <> > > If one of the Shadows from Z'ha'dum ever became a TCM member, the ignore function will not be needed because they always show their transparancy. Ham - I'm not familiar with the Shadows - maybe they're already here too! In any event, I would have to see if they had anything worthwhile to read first - before I used my Ignore option.

FrankG, For some reason, you have quite a following here. Looks like you have many more friends than foes though. I wanted to add a couple of things - Ok,ok, Marian did want to look nice for company. She probably hadn't had any in quite a while. But, I'm sure she was glad to get out of those pants - which to me indicated that she had to do "men's work" with Joe because there was no one else, and so much work to do. No wonder she liked Shane, he took over half the load. Just keeping up a house and garden was killer back then. The only other movies where I've seen women wear pants in those days were tomboys or wearing super tight pants and shirt, in a different kind of western, with a different director. Re: Torrey. He just didn't have the understanding of other men's psyches - the extent that people would go to. I guess you could say he was a simple man, who was ruled by his emotions. Too bad for his family though, as they were left alone. This part stands out for me - in the first confrontation, when Shane is surrounded by a bunch of Ryker's gang, and Joey says to him 'There's too many, Shane' or close to that. In fact, he says it twice. Reminds me of choosing to live to fight another day. That's also the wisdom that Torrey lacked. FrankG, if you have not seen 3:10 to Yuma (old version of course), please do. I think you will like it. Van Heflin plays a similar sort of guy there. Glenn Ford, another one of my favorites, is great in it.

> {quote:title=cinemafan wrote:}{quote} > How many of you have found that using the Ignore feature is making your on-line life here easier? > > I have started using it, and I find it a more pleasant experience. In fact, I find that it makes for easier and less cluttered reading. > > Also, by not just ignoring one poster, but its many user names, it is very efficient. As they crop up and show their *transparancy*, I am able to block out their inane and provocative posts. > > This may not speak to some of you, but I have found it helpful. A couple more observations - If Uncle Charlie were on here (heck, he may be!), I'd put him on Ignore. Also, to use ignore, you have to be logged on. Nowadays, I don't dare not sign in -to protect my eyes and other important vital senses. Message was edited by: cinemafan to correct the spelling of Uncle Charlie

*JackFavell wrote* *Ahhhh. very good memory you have there, Kathy. I must have* *missed the part about his childhood..... I was probably running to turn* *on the light so I wouldn't get scared..... * *I believe that Emlyn Williams was quite the observer* *as well. He wrote two autobiographies, and a non-fiction book about the* *Moors Murders in 1967, plus several plays including the big hits Night* *Must Fall and The Corn is Green.* *What the Moors Murders are, I canna tell you. (oooh, that's more like Scottish. Yikes...)* ************************************************************************************************************** JackFavell, I'm going back a few pages here, but I wanted to let you know that after I read your rambling about Night Must Fall, I got interested in Emlyn Williams (the writer side) enough to go to the library and get 4 of his books, including his two autobiographies and _Beyond Belief_, the non-fiction book you mentioned. Well, I just finished it, and now I know what the Moor Murders were! Yikes! Mr. Williams was such a good writer and the subject matter so "beyond belief": the results were chilling. It also took some concentration, because he used quite a bit of Northern England and Scottish dialect, and threw in some French as well. Good exercise for my brain. Anyhoo, that's why I stick around here - lots to learn! I will now attempt to tackle at least one of the autobiographies - he was quite a Renaissance man and spoke several languages. It's funny because all of the books that I checked out were in storage and had to be retrieved. I'm glad to be the one to get them out. Thanks, all. Message was edited by: cinemafan - I took so long to write this that the contents of the post I was responding to as not clear.

So, I go to the bigbox store today to buy my new vcr tapes for next week, and guess what, they don't sell them anymore! Now, I really feel dated. Oh well, I'll try somewhere else. CineMaven, in a way I feel that you and our fan programmers who still post here are "taking one for the team" - the team being your fellow (real) fans and posters. You have bravely put yourselves in the spotlight, and in some ways, attracting some real slimey attention. I, for one, appreciate being represented by y'all.

I don't think anyone's mentioned "Damn Yankees". Not a lot of play on the field, but lots of locker room action.

markfp2 - My next step is to check the library. I'll let you know if I come up with anything.

And WebAdmin is right behind us with spring cleaning!

> {quote:title=georgiegirl wrote:}{quote} > The only reason *I* would not use the 'ignore' , and I see where it does work for some, is I feel people who come into a room, so to speak, shooting from the hip are the ones in need of the gentlest of hands. I think we need to find a redeeming quality and build on that. Most people want to fit in and feel accepted, and some were just never given the proper tools to do that without making a stink, fuss or a scene. If reaching out for the good only reveals more bad, then screw 'em. lol This makes no sense in this setting, this is not a room where we are all visible to each other. All we have to go by is the way posters project themselves. It is not up to me to hold someone's hand, if we are incompatible, especially in light of the situation we have had at this board - that of one poster with multiple personalities on board. These actions have been purposely damaging. Anyone who has spent time here and is at all aware of Admin actions in the past knows that. As I said in my original post - Ignore works for me because "by not just ignoring one poster, but its many user names, it is very efficient. As they crop us and show their *transparancy*, I am able to block out their inane and provocative posts." By the way, your last sentence does not sound very kind or patient. Try Ignore instead!

> {quote:title=georgiegirl wrote:}{quote} > I understand eccentric personalities. I even like eccentrics, and that's all fine and dandy. What I don't understand is the comment "more benign than others". When is it ever a good thing to be less than kind, patient and respectful of another human being? Is it because we're not face to face and eye to eye that we can take liberties with our common courtesies and common sense? > Maybe I just don't get message boards. This is one of the reasons why Ignore would be used - if we ever feel ourselves acting or reacting in a less than kind, patient and respectful way. Or, if we feel that certain posters are being less than kind, patient and respectful of ourselves or others here. > > I don't think anyone would deny there are people here who smart, helpful, kind, funny, and talented in their own right. They are some of the very people who have helped TCM build a community of movie lovers, and that's all very admirable, but it seems 'some' have a propensity to abuse their status and cause ill will in the ranks. If one is building a community, you attract more flies with honey than vinegar. > > But having said that, I realize it's all about freedom of speech. One should be able to speak freely in a *PUBLIC* forum, but human nature, being what it is, can make us twist those words and use their power for our own agenda. It's then that they come across as control and bravado and not just an inalienable right. As of yet, there are few limitations on what anyone can post here, but no one has to read it as long as they have the tool known as Ignore. > > Just so you know the tone in which this reply was written, I have to add this >----> :-) .

> {quote:title=CineSage_jr wrote:}{quote} > No, no, no; I wrote that. It was a joke. I know that - but it gave me a chance to bring this thread back. Somebody has to have some info. He couldn't have fallen off the face of the earth!

> {quote:title=Metropolisforever_0 wrote:}{quote} > The ignore button is for cowards. I've encountered some of the vilest people to ever roam the Internet, but I refuse to cop out and hit "Ignore" like a baby. I'm still glad that we have the option. At least I'm a calm coward baby.

I read in Hot Topics that he may have a fan club!!! Anybody got anything else on Henry Nakamura?

Can anyone tell - it's that time of year - Spring Break! Also, my experience indicates that there is a new sign-in procedure as of very recently. Check it out when you sign in. Users are asked for additional information. This must be part of the message board upgrade.

How many of you have found that using the Ignore feature is making your on-line life here easier? I have started using it, and I find it a more pleasant experience. In fact, I find that it makes for easier and less cluttered reading. Also, by not just ignoring one poster, but its many user names, it is very efficient. As they crop up and show their *transparancy*, I am able to block out their inane and provocative posts. This may not speak to some of you, but I have found it helpful. TCM is working on various changes as we speak (see Message Announcements to your right), but this is one tool to use for the duration.

Miss G, This is a film that I grew up watching many times. For some reason, it was on a lot, and having 4 older brothers, well, it was a favorite. Now, it is still comforting to watch, even with its heavy theme. Of course, watching it as a child, it was definitely good guys vs bad guys, and I loved Alan Ladd. We were probably watching it from the viewpoint of Joey. Now, I notice more things. Marian is wearing pants at the beginning because she has to work alongside her husband, doing hard outdoor work. When Shane hires on, she goes back to dresses, no - not to entice Shane, but because she can now do more of a different kind of labor, hard indoor work. Shane remarks on what an "elegant" dinner she made. That makes me think that he may come from an Eastern/well off background. Shane steps up to the plate for everybody - Marian, Joe and Joey. He says as much. Of course, he has feelings for Marian, and vice versa, but they are both true to themselves and to their families (in Shane's case, his adopted families). Every feeling does not have to be acted on, and gut reactions are not always wise. That is what Ryker seemed to be doing - reacting and not moving ahead. Everytime I see this, I appreciate Van Heflin more and more. He could do it all. Ben Johnson as Chris - it may never be too late to make amends, but I do believe he moved on. That line "Prove it" was big when I was a kid. I heard it all the time - this may be where it came from. When my own child was younger, I would sing "Goodbye Old Paint" to him; it was on a WeeSing tape of American folk songs. He would laugh everytime he heard the title words, and I had to explain to him that it was a certain kind of horse. This movie does not waste a shot. There are no filler scenes, no phony love scenes, nothing that does not mean something to the story. Jack Palance is billed as Walter Jack Palance. He played this part so well, I notice he stands kind of pigeon toed. I don't think Wilson was too bright as a person. I have the book here somewhere. I got it at a garage sale, and never read it. When I find it, maybe it will give some insight to the ending. I think that Shane just kept riding into the mountains, but I'm sure glad that there was no "Shane II" or "Return of Shane". That would have been horrible. On the other hand, maybe there's a reason there was no sequel. I consider myself fortunate to have had this film in my life as a child. It provided insight on many aspects of life that are constant. It also helped me get through a childhood where we needed good guys, and proof that there was justice. FrankG, I am glad that you got to see it. TCM = entertainment, learning, and camaraderie with like minded folks here. One more thing, the shirt that Ryker's brother was wearing - what's it called? The one with the "placket" in front, all buttoned in place?

That's why I am glad that we have cut and paste. Lest we forget.

> {quote:title=CineMaven wrote:}{quote} > "HA! :-) Ha! :-) Ha. :-) " > > Picture the above as the maniacal laughter of DeNiro in Scorsese's version of "Cape Fear" and you'll be close. > > I'd better cut and paste these. No telling when your pre-code gems will be cut by TCM City's very own Will Hays. > > Ack! > > (Seriously though, great writing Mr. H. Keep up the good work!) ;-) Cutting and pasting seems to be the way to go nowadays. Our nightmare goes on. Message was edited by: cinemafan because I just realized that our very own nightmare is ongoing.

> {quote:title=patful wrote:}{quote} > Where's TCMWebAdmin? :-( TCMWebAdmin is busy racking up views on its "Message Board Anouncements" thread, while adding nothing since March 17. We are expected to use "Ignore" and pretend that all is well. What an outrage. Surely we deserve better. The *transparency* is staggering and alarming. Oh, I forgot, they are also busy cultivating a deleted posts bin. TCMWebAdmin - please get a clue before you delete this. Respectfully, cinemafan