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Posts posted by Richard Kimble
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Names aside, I'm amazed at the number of times in 30's radio and old movies I hear "Drama" pronounced "Dramma", to rhyme with "Gramma"
Memorably illustrated in the closing scene of The Fighting Kentuckian w/ John Wayne. He and his men march off as we hear a male chorus singing on the soundtrack:
"Only five hundred miles more to go
Only five hundred miles more to go
We are finished with the dramma
So goodbye to Alabama
Only five hundred miles more to go..."
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I was listening to a 1944 episode of the radio series Suspense starring Laird Cregar and was surprised to learn his last name is pronounced "Cree-GAR". That's not just an announcer's affectation -- Cregar pronounced it that way himself when he spoke briefly at the end of the program.
Franchot Tone -- "Fran-cho". I once a heard a clip of him saying it.
Mel Torme claimed he didn't change his name, just the pronunciation. He said it was originally pronounced "TOR-mee", but when he was starting out as a singer manager at the radio station where he worked Frenchified it to "Tor-MAY" to sound more upscale.
Jakc Lemmon's last name was actually pronounced "Le-MON", but got changed. He was lucky to keep his name at all -- Harry Cohn wanted to change it to "John Lennon".
James Arness ("Ar-NESS") was originally "Aurness" (pronounced "OUR-niss") when RKO changed it, allegedly without his knowledge.
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The word "alienist" was used in a contemporary setting?
For those unfamiliar with the term:
Alienist is an archaic term for a psychiatrist or psychologist. Despite falling out of favor by the middle of the twentieth century, it received renewed attention when used in the title of Caleb Carr's novel The Alienist (1994).
I was unaware of the following:
Although currently not often used in common parlance, the term "alienist" is still employed in psychiatric hospitals to describe those mental health professionals who evaluate defendants to determine their competency to stand trial.
I just listened to a 1944 episode of the radio series Suspense in which the word is used, though in the latter, criminal trial sense. The word is also used in Compulsion (1959), set in 1924, in the same context of a criminal trial..
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John Zacherle
What we have here is the end of an era. One of the few remaining famed original horror movie hosts, John Zacherle, known affectionately to fans as Zacherley, The Cool Ghoul, has passed on at the age of 98! That’s quite a run, and we’re all a lot creepier as a result of his illustrious career!
John Zacherley was an American television host, radio personality, and voice actor known for his long career as a television horror host broadcasting horror movies in Philadelphia and New York City in the 1950s and 1960s. Best known for his character “Roland/Zacherley,” he also did voice work for movies and recorded the top ten novelty rock and roll song “Dinner with Drac” in 1958. He also edited two collections of horror stories, Zacherley’s Vulture Stew and Zacherley’s Midnight Snacks.To say that he was an icon is a bit of an understatement. This man, this wonderful man, was a force of nature who lived it up with fans well into his 90s. There will never be another like him, and we were lucky to have him haunting us for as long as we did.This Halloween season, don’t be sad. Celebrate him, his legacy, and all that he gave us which we are truly grateful for. The laughs, the chills, and the incredible memories. Hold your glass high, and toast him in the highest regard!

https://www.dreadcentral.com/news/197076/rest-peace-john-zacherle-aka-zacherley-cool-ghoul/
NY Times profile from 2012:
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New Orleans, 1950. Stanley Kubrick plays drums w/ The George Lewis Ragtime Jazz Band in Lewis’ backyard. Kubrick had photographed them for an article in Look magazine.

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Simone Simon, Tom Conway, and director Jacques Tourneur on the set of Cat People, 1942

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Somebody playing an American said "daren't" -- Katharine Ross to Burt Reynolds on Gunsmoke, 1964?
Supposedly there's a movie from the '30s where Colin Clive or somebody like that actually says "I dassn't!"

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Where's Eddie Haskell when you need him?
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Like American Graffiti, yet earlier, Kenneth Anger in some of his films used well known hits of the day like He's a Rebel to be undertones on the intercutting of scenes using DeMille's crucifixion walk with H.B. Warner and the modern shots.
I presume he used these recordings w/o paying any rights fees
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Richard Whorf in the trailer for Blues In The Night (1941):


Whorf later directed many TV episodes of shows like The Beverly Hillbillies and My Three Sons.


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I haven't by any means seen every film produced during what is usually considered Hollywood's Classic Noir Era but I've probably seen out of Shelby's "Dark City The Film Noir" list about 330-5 noirs. But here is stuff you practically never saw or heard in Classic Hollywood film noir (usually defined as the period from 1941-1958).Diegetic Popular Music, Popular music whose source is visible on the screen especially in Noirs after say 1952, you never saw a character, turn on a car radio, punch in a jukebox, or put a record on a turntable and heard Dean Martin, Tony Bennett, Frank Sinatra, Patti Page, Ames Brothers, Hank Williams, Dinah Shore, Bill Haley and His Comets, Platters, Elvis Presley, Fats Domino, Harry Belafonte, Chuck Berry, Ricky Nelson, Jerry Lee Lewis,The Kingston Trio, Little Anthony and the Imperials, etc., etc. All popular artists who would have been live in a band, on the air, or on records.
Having popular recordings in films would have required rights payments. Few movie studios owned record labels (MGM being the obvious exception); Warners owned several publishing companies, and used their cartoon division to plug songs they owned (the reason for all those cartoons where magazine racks come to life and sing), but did not have their own record label until 1960, when they hit paydirt with the Bob Newhart albums. Warners had actually been isnpired to create their own label by the smash success of Tab Hunter's cover of "Young Love" -- a contract player making money for another company (Dot Records). Jack Warner was predictably furious.
In the '50s you saw the rise of the jukebox musical with acts from different record labels, such as the Alan Freed films. By 1969 with Easy Rider you had soundtracks with various artists, which became a major marketing tool. American Graffiti devoted 10% of its budget to music rights.
I have seen Louis Armstrong in The Beat Generation and The Strip (1951), Nat King Cole in The Blue Gardenia and some Jazz bands, notably the one in D.O.A., and others that I can't recall at the moment but, contrary to popular belief, most Film Noir had studio orchestra "string" scores.
The studios had these musicians under contract. As late as Harper (1966) Paul Newman goes to a bar with a long haired rock band on stage -- but the music we hear is standard cocktail lounge pop-jazz, which doesn't match the musicians on stage (guitars and drums) at all.
Pizza Parlors/Joints Never seen a Noir with a Pizza Parlor, have you? I've seen Italian restaurants sure. Pizza places were there because the first printed reference to "pizza" served in the US is a 1904 article in The Boston Journal, and Gennaro Lombardi opened a grocery store in 1897 which was later established as the "said" first pizzeria in America in 1905 with New York's issuance of the mercantile license. So ****? It was around and a relatively cheap food. Any body see a character eat a slice, or pick up a pie for the gang?As I posted earlier in the thread, pizzas were very exotic to most Americans until the 1950s. Pizzas parlors are discussed as a business opportunity in Hot Spell, but I can't recall seeing anyone eat a pizza until Splendor In The Grassyou ever notice the character always orders a burger and a coffee, and never a CokeCharacters occasionally order Coke in old movies; the only one I can think of off the top of my head is The Rack (1956). This sort of casual reference would disappear with the rise of product placement.Levis jeans or just jeans in general, the only noir that I've seen where a character noticeably wears jeans is Steve Cochran in Tomorrow Is Another Day (1951)Watch some movies with working class characters, factory workers or farmers,. I'm sure jeans show up all the time.
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I believe that Broadcast News is the first film, not set in the South, where someone with a thick Southern accent is the smartest person in the room. Can anyone else think of an earlier example?
This was actually a common theme in films of the old days - the country bumpkin outsmarts the city slickers. Will Rogers, Judy Canova, The Beverly Hillbilies -- Jethro might be a halfwit, but Jed always had common sense, no matter his lack of book learnin'.
The real question is, has it happened since Broadcast News? With the decline of the western Southern accents essentially disappeared from movies, incidentally making things hard for Southern-accented actors. A few have managed to break through as stars: Tommy Lee Jones, Holly Hunter, Reese Witherspoon. But they haven't constantly maintained a Southern identity, in the way say Pacino and De Niro are invariably identified with New York.
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Joan Crawford and Bette Davis in a publicity shot for Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte. Soon afterward Crawford was replaced in the film by Olivia De Havilland.

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Montgomery Clift and Lee Remick in an awkward publicity shot for Wild River. Monty looks like he wants to take a nap.

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Abner Biberman was a very active character actor of the 1940s, often appearing as a gangster or exotic henchman


He later became a prolific TV director of the '50s and '60s, for such series as Maverick, The Virginian, Gunsmoke, The Outer Limits, and Twilight Zone, among others.
His son also became an actor.

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he was an uncredited extra in both the movies GUYS AND DOLLS and MARTY. The first, as an extra in the barbershop scene in "Guys"
I just recently read about this. Regardless of what IMDb says, I'm pretty certain that's not him in G&D.
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Gordon Douglas was featured in the "Boy Friends" series of shorts for producer Hal Roach. Here he is in The Knockout (1932):


Roach appointed Douglas to direct shorts for the studio:

Douglas would go on to features, becoming virtually the house director for Frank Sinatra in the '60s (allegedly due to his willingness to shoot only one or two takes of a scene, as Sinatra preferred). He's best remembered for Them and his masterpiece, the classic western Rio Conchos.



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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/eddie-applegate-dead-patty-duke-939391
Eddie Applegate
He portrayed Richard Harrison, the easygoing boyfriend of the Brooklyn-born Patty Lane, on the 1960s ABC sitcom. Eddie Applegate, who played Richard Harrison, the high school boyfriend of Patty Lane, on The Patty Duke Show, died Monday. He was 81.

Applegate died at a nursing home in Los Angeles after a long illness, his friend, Lizzie Maxwell, told The Hollywood Reporter.
Applegate appeared in 88 of the ABC sitcom's 104 episodes as Richard, who dated the Brooklyn-born Patty (Duke). Of course, Duke also played an identical cousin, Cathy Lane, on the series, which aired from 1963-66. In CBS' 1999 reunion telefilm, The Patty Duke Show: Still Rockin' in Brooklyn Heights, Applegate returned as Harrison; now, he was Patty Lane's ex-husband.
While starring in a Las Vegas stage production of Bye Bye Birdie, Applegate was approached by a producer to appear in the 1963 romantic comedy A Ticklish Affair, starring Shirley Jones, Carolyn Jones, Gig Young and Red Buttons. A native of Wyncote, Pa., Applegate also appeared on such shows as The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis, The Lucy Show, Daktari, Gunsmoke and the short-lived comedy Nancy, created by Sidney Sheldon and featuring Celeste Holm.
More recently, Applegate played a grandfather in the Emma Stone starrer Easy A (2010) and appeared in the crime film Rain From Stars (2013). He also worked as an agent, artist and carpenter. Survivors include his children Heather and Michael, their respective spouses Eric and Julie and grandchildren Jenna, Zack, Katie, Lauren, Kyle and Mia.
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Norman Lloyd age 15

Lloyd (far right) in the Mercury Theatre's "brownshirt" production of Julius Caesar (1937). Joseph Cotten next to Lloyd.

2015 interview w/ Norman Lloyd:
http://www.avclub.com/article/norman-lloyd-upstaging-orson-welles-and-playing-te-227428

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I don't really know much about Ted V. Mikels. I was unaware he was connected to The Black Klansman. Not too long ago I heard that film's "classic" theme song.
I did know Wayne Rogers was the co-producer and writer of the Astro Zombies. That poster is awesome. Looks like a high school comic books nerd drew it.

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Bud Abbott's nephew Norman also started out as an actor (more a bit player) and became a television director, many series at his uncle's home studio Universal.
From left: Bobby Jordan, Norman Abbott, Gabriel Dell and Huntz Hall in 1943's 'Keep 'Em Slugging.'

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A name I fogot to mention: Ronald Reagan's last name was apparently pronounced "Ree-gan", at least by audiences. My mother always pronounced it that way, and as late as RR's 1954 What's My Line one of the panelists refers to him as "Ronnie Reegan". When/why did it change? GE Theater?