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He's also pretty good in another favorite Chato's Land (1972)

Quite a risqué blouse also 😎....

Just a general observation related to the topic of remakes and their impact. I do notice that when conducting a search on Google or on IMDb for a film that invariably (if it was remade), the links to the remake, or about the remake come out on top or dominate the first page while the link to the original gets buried as if it didn't exist. I does get frustrating. I'm sure it's because of the curiosity of the public, interest in the new thing that drives up the hits which results in the remake topping a list. The search engines should be configured to always give more weight to the original. BTW on a related subject the IMDb search engine must be configured to filter out some film titles. I'll notice that a search on IMDb's main page for certain titles brings up nothing, but a similar search on Google will bring up the IMDb page for the same film.

Lionel Stander's Monument Valley Trading Post/Saloon/Blacksmith in Once Upon A Time In The West (1968) The Red Rocks Saloon in For A Few Dollars More (1965)

Zaza Gabors Strip Joint in Touch Of Evil (1958) Barbara Stanwyck's Storyville Doll House in Walk on the Wild Side (1962) Bennie's Bennie's Tlaquepaque tourist bar/clip joint in Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia (1974) The Storyville Bordello in Pretty Baby (1978) The opium den below the Chinese Theater in Once Upon A Time in America (1984) Ben's dive w*h*o*r*e*house in Blue Velvet (1986)

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I do like Red Sun also Crime Wave (1953) Villa Rides (1968) Once Upon a Time in the West (1968) Death Wish (1974) Death Hunt (1981)

King Rat was 62, To Sir With Love was released in (1967) don't know about the screenplay, the novel by E. R. Braithwaite was published in 1959

John McGiver - fits this fairly well.

Ms.45 (1981) Vigilante Redux Directed by Abel Ferrara (The Driller Killer(1979), Bad Lieutenant (1992)). Written by Nicholas St. John (screenplay) (as N.G. St. John). The cinematography was by James Lemmo credited as James Momel. The music by Joe Delia. The film sort of homages Death Wish (1974), Seven Beauties (1975), and Taxi Driver (1976). The film stars Zoë Tamerlis as Thana, Albert Sinkys as Albert, Darlene Stuto as Laurie, Helen McGara as Carol, Nike Zachmanoglou as Pamela, Abel Ferrara as First Rapist (credited as "Jimmy Laine") Peter Yellen as The Burglar and Editta Sherman as Mrs. Nasone. Another vigilante Neo Noir, this time with a post traumatic stress disorder twist. Thanta, a drab, mute, mousey, seamstress working in some fashion line house in Manhattan's Garment District is raped on her way back home after work. Meanwhile, coincidently, a burglar has broken into Thanta's apartment and he is rummaging around looking for money and valuables. He's still there when the traumatized Thanta arrives home. He asks for her money, she can't reply, so he pulls his gun and rapes her also. During this second rape Thanta is able to grab a glass paper weight off a table and smack the burglar upside the head. While he's knocked out, Thanta grabs her iron and finishes the guy off then drags him into her bathroom and dumps him in her tub. His .45 she puts into a side table draw. She goes back to work the following day never revealing what happened. Her coworkers do notice that she is acting strange. Thanta while watching someone replace a plastic bag in a trash container she gets an idea of how she can dispose the body. She gets a serrated knife and cuts the guy up. Wrapping the pieces up in newspaper and stuffing him into plastic bags. These, after dumping out the food, she puts in her refrigerator. Over the next few weeks she drops the pieces all over the city. In garbage cans, in empty lots, even in the open trunk of a guy packing luggage for a trip. Thanta while outwardly looking clam however is deeply troubled. She hallucinates her attackers. Mrs Nasone her landlady also picks up on Thanta's strange behavior and Phil her can smell the "cold cuts" in the fridge and beings to incessantly bark. During one of her body disposal trips a guy who is hitting on every woman who passes him notices Thanta drop a paper bag among debris in a trash pile. He picks up the bag and runs after Thanta who flees down a dead end alley. Cornered, she pulls out the .45 and blasts the guy when he catches up to her. Now she begins a vendetta against men she deems as threatening. She even changes her appearance putting on makeup wearing more seductive clothes all to attract men. Her plan works but it all goes Noirsville when she attends a Halloween Party given by her boss Albert. As Thanta, Zoë Tamerlis' performance is intriguing it's all facial expressions and physical body language. Editta Sherman as Mrs. Nasone the wacky looking landlady is memorable. The film was initially critically panned on its theatrical release. Now it get pretty high maks from underground and independent film fans. Screen caps are from a Youtube screener. Worth a look 7/10 Full review with some screencaps here in Film Noir/Gangster pages.

Ms.45 (1981) Vigilante Redux Directed by Abel Ferrara (The Driller Killer(1979), Bad Lieutenant (1992)). Written by Nicholas St. John (screenplay) (as N.G. St. John). The cinematography was by James Lemmo credited as James Momel. The music by Joe Delia. The film sort of homages Death Wish (1974), Seven Beauties (1975), and Taxi Driver (1976). The film stars Zoë Tamerlis as Thana, Albert Sinkys as Albert, Darlene Stuto as Laurie, Helen McGara as Carol, Nike Zachmanoglou as Pamela, Abel Ferrara as First Rapist (credited as "Jimmy Laine") Peter Yellen as The Burglar and Editta Sherman as Mrs. Nasone. Another vigilante Neo Noir, this time with a post traumatic stress disorder twist. Thanta, a drab, mute, mousey, seamstress working in some fashion line house in Manhattan's Garment District is raped on her way back home after work. Thanta ( Zoë Tamerlis ) Pulled into and alley raped Meanwhile, coincidently, a burglar has broken into Thanta's apartment and he is rummaging around looking for money and valuables. He's still there when the traumatized Thanta arrives home. The burglar (Peter Yellen) He asks for her money, she can't reply, so he pulls his gun and rapes her also. raped again During this second rape Thanta is able to grab a glass paper weight off a table and smack the burglar upside the head. While he's knocked out, Thanta grabs her iron and finishes the guy off then drags him into her bathroom and dumps him in her tub. His .45 she puts into a side table draw. She goes back to work the following day never revealing what happened. Her coworkers do notice that she is acting strange. Thanta while watching someone replace a plastic bag in a trash container gets an idea of how she can dispose the body. She gets a serrated knife and cuts the guy up. Wrapping the pieces up in newspaper and stuffing him into plastic bags. These, after dumping out the food, she puts in her refrigerator. Over the next few weeks she drops the pieces all over the city. In garbage cans, in empty lots, even in the open trunk of a guy packing luggage for a trip. getting rid of the burglar Thanta while outwardly looking clam however is deeply troubled. She hallucinates her attackers. Mrs Nasone her landlady also picks up on Thanta's strange behavior and Phil her can smell the "cold cuts" in the fridge and beings to incessantly bark. Phil smelling meat Phil and Mrs Nasone (Editta Sherman) During one of her body disposal trips a guy who is hitting on every woman who passes him notices Thanta drop a paper bag among debris in a trash pile. He picks up the bag and runs after Thanta who flees down a dead end alley. than one Cornered, she pulls out the .45 and blasts the guy when he catches up to her. Now she begins a vendetta against men she deems as threatening. She even changes her appearance putting on makeup wearing more seductive clothes all to attract men. Her plan works but it all goes Noirsville when she attends a Halloween Party given by her boss Albert. Noirsville Albert (Albert Sinkys) As Thanta, Zoë Tamerlis' performance is intriguing it's all facial expressions and physical body language. Editta Sherman as Mrs. Nasone the wacky looking landlady is memorable. The film was initially critically panned on its theatrical release. Now it get pretty high maks from underground and independent film fans. Screen caps are from a Youtube screener. Worth a look 7/10 Full review with more screencaps at Noirsville.

I think there are two versions of the novel King Rat. The original published version 1962, left out the women's stories the girlfriends, mothers, and wives of the men in the camp. A complete version of the manuscript published in 1999 includes their stories. On a side note during an interview I saw with James Clavell quite a while ago, he mentioned that he always carried a can of sardines around with him as a reminder of Changi, and told the audience that one can of sardines stretched out could flavor an awful lot of rice.

More... that's swell a heel to spring for it the third degree don't be a sap everything's jake snowed to the hairline (coked up)

Lets not forget: Paul enters his apartment to find his wife Mary fighting off a swinger who has gotten the wrong address. He hits the man with a frying pan, killing him. Paul and Mary's dreams of running a small restaurant seem to be in jeopardy until they decide to dispose of the body, keep the wallet, and to advertise for other sexually oriented visitors who are summarily killed, robbed, bagged, and sent as "meat" to a taco company.

More.... Dangel keister for suitcase a piker (gambler who only makes small bets) Newshawks

A truck driver stops at a small family-run noodle shop and decides to help its fledgling business. The story is intertwined with various vignettes about the relationship of love and food.

The wife of a barbaric crime boss engages in a secretive romance with a gentle bookseller between meals at her husband's restaurant. Food, colour coding, sex, murder, torture and cannibalism are the exotic fare

A group of men go to a villa in the French countryside where they resolve to eat themselves to death.

Here's Annie Lennox doing and singing sort of what you are asking about.....

I see it was a 23 January 1947 release date (New York City, New York) they may have added it to tie into 1946/47's Christmas/New Years Holiday season or at least the coming attractions would play during the holidays.

Been combing through a lot of late sixties Sexploitation "roughies" and finding a few Noir gems that unfortunately get thrown into the same bin because they are exploiting a new found freedom of very limited censorship. These would also fit into Cave Girls Outré thread. It was quite quaint re-watching The Blue Gardenia and it's strait-laced 50's mores. The Blue Gardenia (1953) Café au lait Women's Noir The credits run over a montage of the City of Angels and probably the San Bernardino Freeway built in 1948, it's one of the first Film Noir to show one that I can remember. Directed by Fritz Lang and based on a novella by Vera Caspary. The cinematographer was Nicholas Musuraca, and the music was by Raoul Kraushaar. An independent production released by RKO. A Woman's Noir a chick flick. The three main characters are three single women getting by in the City Of Angels. Ann Sothern is the continually tar bar sucking Crystal Carpenter. Jeff Donnell is Sally Ellis, the kid sister type addicted to the pulp fiction of a Mickey Spillane clone hard boiled detective novelist. Our heroine is torch carrying Norah Larkin played by Anne Baxter who is in love with a GI serving in Korea. Richard Conte plays newsman Casey Mayo his sidekick photographer is Al played by Richard Erdman, Raymond Burr is playboy Harry Prebble, George Reeves is the L.A.P.D. Police Capt. Sam Haynes, Ruth Storey is Rose Miller, Ray Walker is Homer, and Nat King Cole plays himself. The cast does an admirable job with a routine story. Of course being made under the Motion Picture Production Code, all the references to why Rose is frantically trying to speak with Harry are reduced to subtext references. Harry, apparently, supplied Rose with enough Polynesian Pearl Divers to successfully "dive" down on her "pearl," getting her pregnant in the process. She wants Harry to make her an "honest" woman, in the parlance of the times, to marry her. Oh, how quaint and innocent the Hollywood Studio powers were (on the outside) in the straight-laced 1950's and how the sexual Pandora's Box was nuked open by Sexploitation in the late 1960s. I personally get a kick out of Anne Baxter's very convincing tipsy woman sequences at the Blue Gardenia and at Harry's studio/pad. Sothern is a hoot with a cig perpetually dangling from her bottom lip, Burr is appropriately slimey, and it's always great seeing Nat King Cole. Screen caps with fuller review in Flim Noir/Gangster pages. Café au lait Noir 7/10

The Blue Gardenia (1953) Café au lait Women's Noir The credits run over a montage of the City of Angels and probably the San Bernardino Freeway built in 1948, it's one of the first Film Noir to show one that I can remember. Directed by Fritz Lang and based on a novella by Vera Caspary. The cinematographer was Nicholas Musuraca, and the music was by Raoul Kraushaar. An independent production released by RKO. A Woman's Noir a chick flick. The three main characters are three single women getting by in the City Of Angels. Ann Sothern is the continually tar bar sucking Crystal Carpenter. Jeff Donnell is Sally Ellis, the kid sister type addicted to the pulp fiction of a Mickey Spillane clone hard boiled detective novelist. Our heroine is torch carrying Norah Larkin played by Anne Baxter who is in love with a GI serving in Korea. Richard Conte plays newsman Casey Mayo his sidekick photographer is Al played by Richard Erdman, Raymond Burr is playboy Harry Prebble, George Reeves is the L.A.P.D. Police Capt. Sam Haynes, Ruth Storey is Rose Miller, Ray Walker is Homer, and Nat King Cole plays himself. Casey Mayo (Richard Conte) Al (Richard Erdman) We see newsman Casey Mayo (Richard Conte) and his photographer Al (Richard Erdman) pull up in front of the West Coast Telephone Co. Casey hops out and into the lobby. Casey is doing a piece about the phone company for the Daily Chronicle. He takes an elevator up to switchboard central, for a tour. There he meets switchboard operators and roomies, Crystal Carpenter (Ann Sothern), Norah Larkin (Anne Baxter) and airhead Sally Ellis (Jeff Donnell). Harry Prebble (Raymond Burr) Chrystal Carpenter (Ann Sothern) Casey Mayo He also meets calendar cheesecake artist Harry Prebble (Raymond Burr) who is doing a sketch of Crystal. Prebble is your typical playboy putting the moves on Crystal then expertly switching track to Norah when she shows up with Sally to lunch with her roommates. They take off. Harry Prebble gets a frantic call from a woman. She tells him that he's got to help her. He tells her to take it easy and hangs up. Later that night at the apartment it's Norah's birthday. She plans on having a romantic dinner for two. Her and her fiance George. He's in Korea but she has his photo on the table and his last letter she received. She douses the lights, sits at the candlelit table set for two, opens the champagne, toasts her fiance and takes out his letter..... Norah Larkin (Anne Baxter) Later that night at the apartment it's Norah's birthday. She plans on having a romantic dinner for two. Her and her fiance George. He's in Korea but she has his photo on the table and his last letter she received. She douses the lights, sits at the candlelit table set for two, opens the champagne, toasts her fiance and takes out his letter..... Cue the cheap piano music... In voice over we hear George tell her that he's been thinking a lot about her and also about an army nurse he met in Tokyo where he took a load of commie shrapnel they gave him in Korea. Her name is Angela. She supplied the strength and courage to pull him through. He tells Norah that he didn't want it to happen but it's the real McCoy, and that he's going to marry Angela as soon as he gets out. It's a Dear Jane letter. As soon as she finishes the letter coincidentally the phone starts ringing. The studio "B" units knew how to move a story along. It's Harry on the phone looking for Crystal. He asks Norah thinking she's Crystal to "how about slipping into something comfortable, like a few drinks and some Chinese food?" Norah tells him alright she will. He tells her to meet him at the Blue Gardenia on Vine right off Hollywood. Norah tells Sally that she's going out, with a man. Sally is perplexed until Norah leaves and she reads the letter. At the Blue Gardenia, Harry is ordering dinner for two, he tells the waiter to keep the Polynesian Pearl Divers coming and to tell the barman to go heavy on the rum. Hey every playboy knows candy is dandy but liquor is quicker, no? While Harry wanders around the Blue Gardenia waiting for his date, he runs into Casey at the bar. Norah shows up and surprises Harry, who tells her he was expecting Crystal. Norah tells him she had answered the phone. She tells Harry that it was a silly impulse. Harry tells her impulses are never silly and to sit. As soon as they sit the waiter delivers two Polynesian Pearl Divers. getting drunk on Polynesian Pearl Divers Harry Prebble: [speaking about a Polynesian Pearl Diver cocktail] These aren't really drinks. They're trade-winds across cool lagoons. They're the Southern Cross above coral reefs. They're a lovely maiden bathing at the foot of a waterfall. Norah tells Harry she wants to forget the earlier part of the evening. Harry leers. he buys her a blue gardenia from a flower lady and Nat King Cole breaks into the song of the same title. Nat King Cole showing Harry some cleavage Norah is getting tipsy. She's showing Harry quite a bit of cleavage. Harry drives her to his place. He breaks out the champagne. He spins a platter of Nat King Cole singing "Blue Gardenia." Harry kills the lights. Norah gets comfy on the couch. Harry gets a bit too frisky. Norah fights him off. She grabs a poker from the fireplace stand and beans him with it. Norah passes out. Harry sits down on the couch beside Norah and gets a bit too frisky. Norah fights him off. She grabs a poker from the fireplace stand and beans him with it. Norah passes out. blacking out.... Norah comes to a few hours later and runs barefoot out of Harry's house and into the rainy night. The next morning his cleaning lady finds Harry's body. Coming to... running out into the night.... At the girls apartment Crystal sees Norah's clothes are strewn upon the floor. She wakes up Norah who is sleeping in the raw. Crystal mentions she must have had quite the night. Norah tells her she blacked out and doesn't remember anything. The police find clues at Harry's, a pair of size five women shoes, a fireplace poker, a blue gardenia. The cleaning lady did her job, she moved and cleaned the evidence before finding the body so no fingerprints are found. Their investigations though do lead them to the telephone company operator pool, which was Harry's favorite "hunting ground" for his models. The police begin to question the girls who posed for Prebble. Norah thinks she may have killed Prebble. Casey Mayo begins to investigate and write a series of columns about what he dubs the "Blue Gardenia Murderess." He snoops out that the killer was a blonde, had a quite gentle voice, and wore a black taffeta dress. When Norah reads about the dress, she burns hers in the incinerator. Casey's next stunt is to write a "Letter to an Unknown Murderess," calling for her to turn herself in. He gets a lot of nuts replying to it. Here director Lang has a nice sequence of Casey answering the crank calls of disillusioned and slightly disturbed ladies who crave attention. We get close-ups of the pathetic women building up their possible legitimacy in the viewers eyes, only to have Casey dash their accounts as lies. When Norah finally calls in Casey figures correctly that she is the one. When they meet Norah tells Casey she is there for a friend. Casey tells Norah that he's willing to pay the attorney fees if her friend gives herself up. It all goes Noirsville when the police show up at a lunch counter where Casey and Norah arrange another meeting. betrayed.... Norah thinks Casey betrayed her. Noirsville Rose (Ruth Storey) The cast does an admirable job with a routine story. Of course being made under the Motion Picture Production Code, all the references to why Rose is frantically trying to speak with Harry are reduced to subtext references. Harry, apparently, supplied Rose with enough Polynesian Pearl Divers to successfully dive down on her "pearl," getting her pregnant in the process. She wants Harry to make her an "honest" woman, in the parlance of the times, to marry her. Oh, how quaint and innocent the Hollywood Studio powers were (on the outside) in the straight-laced 1950's and how the sexual Pandora's Box was nuked open by Sexploitation in the late 1960s. I personally get a kick out of Anne Baxter's very convincing tipsy woman sequences at the Blue Gardenia and at Harry's studio/pad. Sothern is a hoot with a cig perpetually dangling from her bottom lip, Burr is appropriately slimey, and it's always great seeing Nat King Cole. Screen caps are from a TCM streamer. Café au lait Noir 7/10 Full Review with more screencaps in Noirsville.

Look how far back her head is on her shoulders looks deformed or like she's arching her back, compare her to the other woman.....

I'm thinking the "three act story quote" was alluding to a typical screenplay.

Chandler's Lady In The Lake (1943) cannibalized three of his pulp fiction stories, Bay City Blues (Dime Detective Magazine, November 1937), The Lady In The Lake (Dime Detective Magazine. January 1939), and No Crime In The Mountains (Detective Story Magazine,September 1941). BTW each short story would make good films, though the two different detectives Chandler used in them are named Dalmas and Carmody.