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5 minutes ago, Hibi said:
Victoria Winters and Jeff (her jailer) get together at the end in parallel time?
I think they go off together and head out West when they return back to 1795, but that is after Victoria finds Jeff in present with no memory working as the Igor type character for the Dr. Frankenstein character (can't remember his name) who creates Adam.
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1 hour ago, Hibi said:
That's weird. They must've brought her (Vicky) back at the end of the show then (briefly). I found it SO annoying they had to announce at the beginning EVERY day who would be playing Victoria Winters (probably why I remember the actress's name). First day ok. It's not like her name wasn't on the end credits. And who cared at that point anyway???
I don't remember when Vicky left the show. She was so boring anyway. I usually FF through her scenes now when I watch it on Decades......When do they finally come back from the past with the Barnabas storyline??? It's really boring and they are running out of characters to kill off. How does Vicky come back? I don't remember.
Millicent Collins and Nathan Forbes are also total bores! I FF through their scenes too. I can get through an episode in 10 mins lately....
I think you are getting Alexandra Moltke mixed up with Kate Jackson possibly they kind of look alike. Moltke's last episode is listed as 627. The character of Victoria Winter lasted a little bit longer but not much
Anyway Wiki has the breakdown and a lot of info her are the chronological storylines:
Storyline
1966/7
Victoria Winters' Parentage, episode 1 to 92.Victoria Winters and her role as governess is inspired by title character in Charlotte Brontë's gothic novel Jane Eyre.[18]
Burke Devlin's Revenge For His Manslaughter Conviction, episode 1 to 201.Burke Devlin and his motivation for returning is reminiscent of Alexandre Dumas' novel The Count of Monte Cristo.[19]
Roger Collins' Mysterious Car Crash, episode 13 to 32.The Murder of Bill Malloy, episode 46 to 126.
Laura Collins the Phoenix, episode 123 to 192.
Jason McGuire Blackmails Elizabeth Collins Stoddard, episode 193 to 275.
The Arrival of the Vampire Barnabas Collins, episode 211 to 220.
The Kidnapping of Maggie Evans, episode 221 to 261.
Julia Hoffman's Attempt to Cure Barnabas, episode 265 to 351.
Barnabas Terrorizing Julia Hoffman, episode 352 to 365.
1795
Angelique Bouchard's Vampire Curse on Barnabas, episode 366 to 426.Victoria Winters's Witchcraft Trial, episode 400 to 461.
The witchcraft trial involving Victoria Winters is inspired by Arthur Miller's play The Crucible. Reverend Trask's fate is inspired by Edgar Allan Poe's short story "The Cask of Amontillado."[18]
Nathan Forbes' Manipulation of Millicent Collins, episode 419 to 460.Nathan's manipulation of Millicent is reminiscent of the 1938 play and the 1944 film Gaslight.
1968/9
The Mystery of Jeff Clark, episode 461 to 665.The Creation of Adam, episode 466 to 636.
The character of Adam is inspired by Mary Shelley's horror novel Frankenstein.[18]
The Dream Curse, episode 477 to 548.Elizabeth's Fear of Being Buried Alive, episode 513 to 672.
This storyline is inspired by Edgar Allan Poe's short story "The Premature Burial."[18]
Nicholas Blair's Scheme to Create A Master Race, episode 549 to 633/634.Chris Jennings' Werewolf Curse, episode 627 to 700.
The Ghosts of Quentin Collins and Beth Chavez Haunt Collinwood, episode 639 to 700.
The character of Quentin Collins and his role is inspired by Peter Quint in Henry James's gothic novel The Turn of the Screw.[18]
1897
Barnabas’ Mission to Save David Collins, episode 700 to 839.The heartbeat that tortures Quentin is inspired by Edgar Allan Poe's short story "The Tell-Tale Heart."[18]
Jenny Collins, the Mad Woman in the Attic, episode 707 to 748.Jenny Collins is inspired by the character of Bertha from Charlotte Brontë's gothic novel Jane Eyre.[18]
Laura Collins the Phoenix, episode 728 to 761.Worthington Hall and Gregory Trask's running of it is inspired by Charles Dickens's novel Nicholas Nickleby.[18]
Magda Rakosi's Werewolf Curse on Quentin, episode 749 to 834.The portrait of Quentin Collins is inspired by Oscar Wilde's gothic novel The Picture of Dorian Gray.[18]
Gregory Trask's Manipulation of Judith Collins, episode 762 to 884.Gregory Trask's fate is inspired by Edgar Allan Poe's short story "The Cask of Amontillado".[18]
Mrs. Trask's murder is inspired by "The Manchurian Candidate".
The Hand of Count Petofi, episode 778 to 814.The hand of Count Petofi is inspired by William Fryer Harvey's short story "The Beast with Five Fingers". Quentin's torture is inspired by Edgar Allan Poe’s short story "The Pit and the Pendulum."[18]
The Creation of Amanda Harris, episode 812 to 850.The theme of an artist's falling in love with his own creation who is brought to life by supernatural forces is reminiscent of the classic Greek myth of Pygmalion.
Barnabas's Infatuation with Kitty Soames, episode 844 to 885.Count Petofi Body Swaps with Quentin, episode 849 to 883.
The character of Count Petofi is based on the real-world Count of St. Germain, a Georgian-era courtier and man of science who claimed to be, and possibly was, the son of Francis II Rákóczi. In the 19th Century, Theosophist legends claimed that he attained the secret of immortality.[18][20]
1969/70
Barnabas Falls Under the Control of the Leviathans, episode 886 to 950.This storyline is inspired by H. P. Lovecraft’s shared universe known as "The Cthulhu Mythos," and particularly by the short story "The Dunwich Horror".[18]
The Mystery of Grant Douglas and Olivia Corey, episode 888 to 934.This storyline is inspired by the Greek mythological tale of Orpheus and Eurydice.[18]
Chris Jennings' Werewolf Curse, episode 889 to 978.The Leviathan Child, episode 891 to 929.
Jeb Hawkes the Leviathan Leader, episode 935 to 980.
The Ghosts of Gerard Stiles and Daphne Harridge Haunt Collinwood, episode 1071 to 1109.
This storyline is inspired by Henry James's gothic novel The Turn of the Screw.[18]
1970 Parallel Time
The Death of Angelique Collins, episode 969 to 1060.This storyline is inspired by Daphne du Maurier's gothic novel Rebecca.[18]
Cyrus Longworth's Experiment, episode 978 to 1035.This storyline is inspired by Robert Louis Stevenson's "chilling shocker" short novel Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.[18]
1995
The Destruction of Collinwood, episode 1061 to 1070.1840
Barnabas' Infatuation with Roxanne Drew, episode 1081 to 1150.The Head of Judah Zachery, episode 1117 to 1138.
Judah Zachery's Possession of Gerard Stiles, episode 1139 to 1197.
Quentin Collins' Witchcraft Trial, episode 1162 to 1197.
1841 Parallel Time
Bramwell Collins' and Catherine Harridge's Love Affair, episode 1186 to 1245.This storyline is inspired by Emily Brontë's gothic novel Wuthering Heights.[18]
The Cursed Room Lottery, episode 1194 to 1245.This storyline is inspired by Shirley Jackson's short story "The Lottery."[18]
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8 minutes ago, Hibi said:
Was that at the end of the show or earlier?
Oh no Victoria Winters was written off the show just before Quentin Collins showed up
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6 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
AHA!
Now I get it! THANK YOU.
So, in a way, *somewhat* like a BORDER COLLIE for fish?
Yea
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9 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
I just went online to find out what a fountain pike was and all i got was a link to THE STUPIDEST ONLINE ESSAY I HAVE COME ACROSS IN SOME TIME.
Anyone care to explain?
Simple, they use a pike above to keep the populations of carp below to a manageable level.
A a pike will chase the carp sort of exercising them and eating the slow ones.....
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a Plymouth truck
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2 hours ago, hamradio said:
One of the title cards....Antony ordered his ships to turn around Ships? What ships?
Probably alluding to....
The Battle of Actium was the decisive confrontation of the Final War of the Roman Republic, a naval engagement between Octavian and the combined forces of Mark Antony and Cleopatra on 2 September 31 BC, on the Ionian Sea near the promontory of Actium, in the Roman province of Epirus Vetus in Greece. Octavian's fleet was commanded by Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa, while Antony's fleet was supported by the power of Queen Cleopatra of Ptolemaic Egypt. (Wiki)
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11 hours ago, LawrenceA said:
Usually they're just switched without any acknowledgment from the characters. Occasionally I've heard of them using an "accident" requiring plastic surgery as the reason for the appearance/actor change.
I know on Days of Our Lives, Drake Hogestyn was brought in as the new Roman Brady, with plastic surgery given as the reason after the character fell off a cliff and was presumed dead. However, the original actor (Wayne Northrop) came back, so they decided that Drake Hogestyn wasn't actually Roman after all, but another guy named John Black who was brainwashed to think he was Roman. Both characters are still on the show as far as I know, only Roman is now played by another actor, Josh Taylor, who, to make things even more confusing, used to be on the same show playing another character (Chris Kositchek) in the 1980's.
Yea they just switched out the original Victoria Winters character, Alexandra Moltke (she was pregnant), with another actress for a few weeks before her story line was stopped on the original Dark Shadows.
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Nightmare in the Sun (1965)
Directors: John Derek and Marc Lawrence starring quite the cast, John Derek, Aldo Ray, Arthur O'Connell, Ursula Andress, Sammy Davis Jr., Allyn Joslyn, Keenan Wynn, George Tobias, John Marley, Robert Duvall, and Rchard Jaeckel.
Cheapo flick 6/10
from IMDb - A young man hitchhiking through the desert is picked up by a beautiful woman. They have an affair, and he finds out that she’s married. The consequences of the affair lead to murder and blackmail.
The Outcasts of Poker Flat (1952)
The first ten/twelve minutes are a great example of a Noir Western then the aesthetic changes into of all things The Hateful Eight the "outcasts" caught in a snowbound cabin in the mountains (unfortunately) with out Tarantino's dialogue.
Directed by Joseph M. Newman. Cinematography by Joseph LaShelle starring Anne Baxter, Dale Robertson, Miriam Hopkins, and Cameron Mitchell.
Watched a pristine print 6/10
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8 hours ago, Looney said:
THE HARDER THEY FALL (1956)
What I really noticed this go round was Steiger's acting chops, he goes convincingly head to head with Bogie, it's like witnessing both the end of an era and the passing of the baton to a new generation.
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10 hours ago, Dargo said:
Say, wasn't that the sequel to The Nuns of Navarone ???
(...and speakin' o' which...whatever became of that old "20th Century Vole" thread anyway?!)
No it was a prequel Nunsense (1993)
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On 9/29/2019 at 12:16 PM, hamradio said:
Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin!
Great Balls Afire!
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7 hours ago, TikiSoo said:
I was citing a relationship between a 50 y/o and 15 y/o would be considered SICK by most. That is a 35 year gap in age, the same gap as Woody & Soon Yi's ages.
Bogart/Bacall a - 25 years gap in age hypothetically 40 y/o and and a 15 y/o...
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On 9/24/2019 at 11:20 AM, JakeHolman said:
yep, i'm a fan of forrest gump ...
No surprise there.
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Sapphire (1959) British Transitional Noir
A Rank Organisation Film.
Directed by Basil Dearden a Brit Noir Veteran who gave us The Blue Lamp (1950) and Pool of London (1951), also other crime and possible Noir dramas Cage of Gold (1950), I Believe in You (1952), The Gentle Gunman (1952), PT Raiders (1955). Those film should be sought out and evaluated. We don't get to see the full spectrum of European Film Noir here in the USA. Deardon also directed a nice little Black & White comedy about a couple who take over a dilapidated movie theater called Big Time Operators (1957) which I've actually caught on Turner Classic Movies.
Sapphire was written by Janet Green with additional dialogue provided by Lukas Heller. Cinematography was by Harry Waxman who lensed noirs (Brighton Rock (1948), The Long Memory (1953), and later The Wicker Man (1973)). Music was by Philip Green.
Sapphire stars Nigel Patrick as Superintendent Robert Hazard, Yvonne Mitchell (Turn The Key Softly) as Mildred, Michael Craig as Inspector Phil Learoyd, Paul Massie as David Harris, Bernard Miles (The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956)), as Ted Harris. Olga Lindo as Mrs. Harris, Earl Cameron (Pool of London (1951), as Dr. Robbins. Gordon Heath as Paul Slade, Jocelyn Britton as Patsy, Harry Baird (The Italian Job (1969)) as Johnnie Fiddle, Orlando Martins as Barman, Rupert Davies as P.C. Jack Ferris, Freda Bamford as Sergeant Cook, Robert Adams as Horace Big Cigar, and Yvonne Buckingham as Sapphire Robbins.
The Story
The body of a young woman is found stabbed multiple times on Hampstead Heath. It's locally known as "the heath" It is a large, ancient London heath, covering 790 acres, just a bit smaller than New York City's Central Park.
The film starts out as a policier, with Scotland Yard Superintendent Robert Hazard heading up the investigation. The police first identify the body as Sapphire Robbins a student at the Royal Academy of Music. The police question her boyfriend David Harris, her friends at the academy, and her landlady.
The police know that she was killed elsewhere and dumped on the heath because of the lack of blood on the scene. A search of her room discovers in the contents of a locked draw a bunch of gaudy lingerie and a photograph that was cut in half. The photo only shows Sapphire dancing with someone who has been cut off. An autopsy reveals that she was a few months pregnant.
The police go back and question David Harris who states to Superintendent Harris that he and Sapphire were to be married.
Everything begins to go Noirsville when Sapphire's older brother Dr, Robbins arrives at police headquarters. Dr. Robbins is black, Sapphire was white or so the police thought. Sapphire was actually the product of a white father and a black mother. She was passing for white.
This fact exposes prejudices across a broad spectrum throughout the rest of the film.For it's time period Sapphire surprisingly explored straight forwardly racial relations in the UK.
Sapphire won the British equivalent of our Academy Award the BAFTA Film Award for Best British Film. It's a nice noir-ish mystery with a message 8-9/10. Review with screen caps in Film Noir/Gangster Pages.
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Sapphire (1959) British Transitional Noir
A Rank Organisation Film.
Directed by Basil Dearden a Brit Noir Veteran who gave us The Blue Lamp (1950) and Pool of London (1951), also other crime and possible Noir dramas Cage of Gold (1950), I Believe in You (1952), The Gentle Gunman (1952), PT Raiders (1955). Those film should be sought out and evaluated. We don't get to see the full spectrum of European Film Noir here in the USA. Deardon also directed a nice little Black & White comedy about a couple who take over a dilapidated movie theater called Big Time Operators (1957) which I've actually caught on Turner Classic Movies.
Sapphire was written by Janet Green with additional dialogue provided by Lukas Heller. Cinematography was by Harry Waxman who lensed noirs (Brighton Rock (1948), The Long Memory (1953), and later The Wicker Man (1973)). Music was by Philip Green.
Sapphire stars Nigel Patrick as Superintendent Robert Hazard, Yvonne Mitchell (Turn The Key Softly) as Mildred, Michael Craig as Inspector Phil Learoyd, Paul Massie as David Harris, Bernard Miles (The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956)), as Ted Harris. Olga Lindo as Mrs. Harris, Earl Cameron (Pool of London (1951), as Dr. Robbins. Gordon Heath as Paul Slade, Jocelyn Britton as Patsy, Harry Baird (The Italian Job (1969)) as Johnnie Fiddle, Orlando Martins as Barman, Rupert Davies as P.C. Jack Ferris, Freda Bamford as Sergeant Cook, Robert Adams as Horace Big Cigar, and Yvonne Buckingham as Sapphire Robbins.
Nigel Patrick as Superintendent Robert Hazard 
Earl Cameron as Dr. Robbins 
Michael Craig as Inspector Phil Learoyd 
Bernard Miles as Ted Harris 
Yvonne Mitchell as Mildred 
Paul Massie as David Harris 
Harry Baird as Johnnie Fiddle lt.
The Story
The body of a young woman is found stabbed multiple times on Hampstead Heath. It's locally known as "the heath" It is a large, ancient London heath, covering 790 acres, just a bit smaller than New York City's Central Park.
grisly find
The film starts out as a policier, with Scotland Yard Superintendent Robert Hazard heading up the investigation. The police first identify the body as Sapphire Robbins a student at the Royal Academy of Music. The police question her boyfriend David Harris, her friends at the academy, and her landlady.
CSI - UK style
The police know that she was killed elsewhere and dumped on the heath because of the lack of blood on the scene. A search of her room discovers in the contents of a locked draw a bunch of gaudy lingerie and a photograph that was cut in half. The photo only shows Sapphire dancing with someone who has been cut off. An autopsy reveals that she was a few months pregnant.The police go back and question David Harris who states to Superintendent Harris that he and Sapphire were to be married.
Everything begins to go Noirsville when Sapphire's older brother Dr, Robbins arrives at police headquarters. Dr. Robbins is black, Sapphire was white or so the police thought. Sapphire was actually the product of a white father and a black mother. She was passing for white.
This fact exposes prejudices across a broad spectrum throughout the rest of the film. Hazard's second in command Inspector Phil Learoyd begins making derogatory comments. Sapphire's rooming house landlady is concerned about being shunned by white boarders if they find out that she rented to a black. The Harris's in particular David's father Ted and David's sister Mildred display a great deal of prejudice against blacks, but David tells the police that Sapphire had told him of her racial background and that they were getting married anyway.
So now the police try and piece together Sapphire's back story figuring that who ever Sapphire was dancing with in the photo they found may be a prime suspect, as in a jilted lover angle. With this new lead the police go to Sapphire's first boarding house and question the tenants. They discover the names of Sapphire's friends and take their statements and follow leads to the International Club and a nightclub called Tulips. They discover that once Sapphire found out that she could pass for white she cut off her old friends split and began a new life.
Noirsville
Smoggy 1959 London 
The blue lamp marking a London police station. 
For it's time period Sapphire surprisingly explored straight forwardly racial relations in the UK.
During the 1950s some of the white working class in the UK began to show open hostility to the influx of African-Caribbean immigrants. Groups such as the Teddy Boys, Oswald Mosley's Union Movement and the White Defense League were agitating to keep Britain white.
Blacks were attacked during the summer of 1958. On 29 August 1958 Majbritt Morrison, a white Swedish woman, was arguing with her Jamaican husband Raymond Morrison at the Latimer Road Underground station. A fight broke out between Morrison and some of his friends and some whites who tried to intervene.
The following day Majbritt was assaulted by a white gang. That night on Bramley Road, hundreds of whites attacked the houses of West Indian residents. These riots and attacks continued through the 5th of September. The Metropolitan Police Service arrested well over a hundred people.
"The riots caused tension between the Metropolitan Police and the British African-Caribbean community, which claimed that the police had not taken their reports of racial attacks seriously. In 2002, files were released that revealed that senior police officers at the time had assured the Home Secretary, Rab Butler, that there was little or no racial motivation behind the disturbance, despite testimony from individual police officers to the contrary." (Wiki)
Sapphire won the British equivalent of our Academy Award the BAFTA Film Award for Best British Film. It's a nice noir-ish mystery with a message 8-9/10. More screen caps at Noirsville. -
30 minutes ago, EricJ said:
JUST about a fat Las Vegas guy in tight pants eating peanut butter sandwiches
Correction: Fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches
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11 minutes ago, calvinnme said:
In the words of Jack McCoy of Law & Order - " Let 'em marry. Why shouldn't they be as miserable as the rest of us?"
The writers stole it from Kinky Friedman I believe.
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4 minutes ago, calvinnme said:
Are you saying there was no minimum age in OK at one time? This would make sense. There was a girl in my freshman high school class who went to Oklahoma to get married when she was 15. I was living in Texas at the time.
http://chnm.gmu.edu/cyh/case-studies/230?section=primarysources&source=24
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3 minutes ago, hamradio said:
Even Jay Leno done a skit showing Woody and Soon-Yi on their honeymoon, the actress portrayed was around 12.
He could of done the same thing with Bogart and Bacall...
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12 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:
$$$ on a gamble
... on a bio-pic about Garland ain't happening for a lot of today's demographic of movie goers I suspect.
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11 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:
That some people would doesn't necessarily make it wrong. Or illegal. Wasn't long before that when "most" people were saying they thought interracial relationships were "gross". But then too, your dislike of Allen's movies based on your feelings about his relationship with Soon-Yi is your business and you have every right to feel that way. Nobody else has any business telling you how to think or feel about it than you have in telling them what to think or feel. After all, we don't live in Oceania.
( ORWELL'S Oceania that is.)
Sepiatone
United States
Age of consent by state (and remember life spans were shorter in 1880)
Year ---- 1880/1920/2007
Alabama 10 16 16
Alaska - 16 16
Arizona 12 18 18
Arkansas 10 16 16
California 10 18 18
Colorado 10 18 15
Connecticut 10 16 16
District of Columbia 12 16 16
Delaware 7 16 16
Florida 10 18 18
Georgia 10 14 16
Hawaii - - 16
Idaho 10 18 18
Illinois 10 16 17
Indiana 12 16 16
Iowa 10 16 16
Kansas 10 18 16
Kentucky 12 16 16
Louisiana 12 18 17
Maine 10 16 16
Maryland 10 16 16
Massachusetts 10 16 16
Michigan 10 16 16
Minnesota 10 18 16
Mississippi 10 18 16
Missouri 12 18 17
Montana 10 18 16
Nebraska 10 18 17
Nevada 12 18 16
New Hampshire 10 16 16
New Jersey 10 16 16
New Mexico 10 16 17
New York 10 18 17
North Carolina 10 16 16
North Dakota 10 18 18
Ohio 10 16 16
Oklahoma - - 16
Oregon 10 16 18
Pennsylvania 10 16 16
Rhode Island 10 16 16
South Carolina 10 16 16
South Dakota 10 18 16
Tennessee 10 18 18
Texas 10 18 17
Utah 10 18 16
Vermont 10 16 16
Virginia 12 16 18
Washington 12 18 16
West Virginia 12 16 16
Wisconsin 10 16 18
Wyoming 10 16 16-
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1 hour ago, AndreaDoria said:
She sounds credible to me. Now, his new movie starring Jude Law is about a man who has an affair with a fifteen year-old. Which sort of seems like Allen thumbing his nose at his critics and believing his fans will forgive anything.
Could sound as if she wants a piece of the of pie too.
And the film sounds like the Vladimir Nabokov novel plot that was made into the eponymous film Lolita (1962).
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2 hours ago, sewhite2000 said:
This is also erroneous. People just throw out these numbers. By all accounts I've ever read, Woody and Soon-Yi began a romantic relationship when he was 56 and she was 22.
I'm not saying their relationship isn't WEIRD, but I've heard dozens of different people get the nature of their familial relationship (there was none) and her age at the time dramatically wrong, because a snippet of something they heard somewhere one time and automatically assuming it to be true without looking into it.
And on this same board everyone thinks Bogart and Bacall was just fine.
Lighten up its playing into the game plans to rake this crap up. You don't hear anybody mentioning the 24 year diff between Twump and Melania.
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Yea Vicky goes back to the present sans Jeff but he's not Jeff Clark in 1797 he's called Peter Bradforf then the Adam storyline gets going. Vicky is convinced that Jeff Clark is Peter Bradford