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Why is the Star Trek Enterprise like a roll of terlet paper?
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18 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said:
what about the roaring twenties where cagney dies on the steps of a church?
I saw it in a theater so it was probably some "B" movie or independant film, no neighborhood theaters were showing vintage films in the early 60s.
But yes The Roaring Twenties and He Ran All The Way are similar but this was Christmas Eve and snowing on a street corner under a streetlight.
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12 minutes ago, cmovieviewer said:
Just a reminder that TCM is presenting some additional Noir films tomorrow (Wednesday the 8th), when the daytime theme is "South of the Border Noir". The lineup is:
The Big Steal (1949) - Robert Mitchum, Jane Greer
Jeopardy (1953) - Barbara Stanwyck, Barry Sullivan
Border Incident (1949) - Ricardo Montalban, George Murphy (Noir Alley selection on 3-30-2019)
Borderline (1950) - Fred MacMurray, Claire Trevor
Second Chance (1953) - Robert Mitchum, Linda Darnell
His Kind of Woman (1951) - Robert Mitchum, Jane Russell (Noir Alley selection on 1–6-2019)
Out of the Past (1947) - Robert Mitchum, Jane Greer (Noir Alley selection on 6–7-2017)Happily, the schedule appears to be the same for both U.S. and Canadian viewers.
Great, I know What I'm doing tomorrow, I don't recall seeing Second Chance so that's a bonus.
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riff-raff - not used a whole lot these days
geezer - an old man is the most common.... but
an old geezer - also means a heroin addict
geezing - is shooting up
geezed - is loaded - high
Oh, and I finally remembered that odd expression you hear in films and at least two Film Noir, and one of those by Gloria Grahame, it's..... Tell tales out of school.
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1 minute ago, NipkowDisc said:
sounds like the one where shelley winters shoots john Garfield for terrorizing her family and threatening to kill them. Garfield collapses and croaks leaning against a car.
No, that was He Ran All The Way 1951. I saw it in a theater on a double bill. And it's definitely Christmas time and the guy was a gangster a greaseball type, kinda looked a bit like Efrem Zimbalist Jr., Gene Barry, Steve Cochran
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Seen liked
The Wolf of Wall Street
The Great Beauty
The Other Side of the Wind
seen
Manchester by the Sea
Gravity
Beasts of the Southern Wild
The Revenant
BirdmanHaven't seen the rest
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I've been looking for this film for years, actually, not looking for it but more trying to identify it. I saw it as a kid at a small theater on Steinway Street in Astoria, NY. The theater was originally called the Cameo later the Olympia theater.
I didn't go to it very often but I did see this film I'm looking for in the early 60's. I seem to remember it was in Black & White, but the key scene that sticks in my mind was at night. It may have been a second bill with whatever the main film was. The film I definitely remember seeing at the Olympia was Man's Favorite Sport (1964), it may have been the second bill, but I'm not sure. I figuring it had to be around 1963-64-65.
It was some type of gangster flick. It was similar in one respect to Sam Fuller's Underworld U.S.A. (1961). The gangster gets shot at the end, dying on a snowy sidewalk with diegetic Christmas music coming from someplace (may have been a church, but don't remember where for sure, don't remember which tune). In Underworld U.S.A. Cliff Robertson dies in an alley with auld lang syne playing that is the similarity. So I thought maybe I just mis-remembered it.
What was different was that the gangster was married and had a family that he never got back to on Christmas Eve, a tear jerker. Like Cliff Robertson, the gangster had black hair.
Ring a bell with anyone?
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Do you see the image in your post just above?
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2 minutes ago, TomJH said:
Actually, cigarjoe, I would think our life experiences help us tune to all kinds of films differently. It doesn't have to be film noir.
True, but what is or isn't a Film Noir has definitions all over the map, and usually starts heated arguments. Using the personal experience subjective explanation can explain why something that is Noir for you may not ring noir for someone else, using this definition will avoid the arguments, nobody is wrong. 😎
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28 minutes ago, TomJH said:
How we all seem to love some sleazy characters who both fascinate and repel us at the same time. On the screen, at least. In real life is another story.
I knew one guy who was a natural hustler. Anyone who had any kind of financial transaction with him was sure to get fleeced, even if it was to only a small degree. It was all a game to him and he had no real conscience.
One of the worst things he did was when an elderly widow approached him, telling him she had found some painted tin soldiers that had belonged to her husband but didn't know how to sell them. The hustler told her he would sell them for her (on ebay, I suspect) and he would keep 10% of the profit.
She agreed and was thrilled when he got back to her and told her he had sold them for $5000. The reality, though, is that he had actually sold them for a considerably larger sum, something like 11 or 14 thousand, I forget which, pocketing the difference. After that he then claimed his ten per cent on the $5000 he gave to her. Of course, the widow, who sounded very trusting and naive, had no idea he had so taken advantage of her.
But the reason I know this is that this low life couldn't help but brag about what he had done to a friend of mine. He omitted a lot of specific details, of course, like the lady's name but he was really laughing about what he had pulled off. The fact that he had just taken advantage of a senior citizen who was having a tough time financially didn't faze him in the least. He quite often boasted to my friend about behaviour of this kind because he was proud of his smarts in pulling off scams and had a need to let someone else know just have crafty he had been.
"You see those yokels out there. It gives you a sort of superior feeling as if you were in the know and they were on the outside looking in. Kinda hard to explain but I like it."
Here above TomJH provided a good example of how your various life experiences, allow you to "tune" to certain Film Noirs more that others.
"A thought to throw into the equation of what makes a Noir/Neo Noir is an individual internal factor. It's subjectivity. Noir is in all of us. Think of us all as having an internal tuning fork, these tuning forks are forged by our life experiences which are all unique. When we watch these films their degree of Noir-ness resonates with us differently, so we either "tune" to them or we don't. The amount of "tuning" (I'm appropriating this term from the Neo Noir Dark City (1998)) to certain films will vary between us all also."
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Another Spook Trade film worth having on Noir Alley is The Amazing Mr. X (1948)
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I watched it but wasn't watching for the scene.
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2 hours ago, laffite said:
I couldn't get through Django Unchained. I guess my time is just too valuable. A flop for Tarantino. Leonardo didn't help. I have never seen him act with any depth. He has tremendous good looks for his roles but that doesn't go far enough. The movie itself had no edge to it. I didn't care about anything. I won't say the movie was boring but I will say I was bored. By rights, Tarantino should not succeed with me. He violates my sensibilities. He should not be my cup of tea. But the truth is that I am rapt with attention and admiration for just about anything he has done. Except this one. Not up to the usual standard.
I liked it up to the ending which I thought was a bit much. If you've seen the Spaghetti Westerns of Franco Nero especially The Mercenary and Companeros you'd see that actor Christoph Waltz was doing a pretty good immitation of Nero in those two films.
Is it a serious Western? no, is it a comedy Western? no, is it a picaresque tongue-in-cheek over the top homage to American Westerns, Spaghetti Westerns, Blaxpoitation films, and American popular culture, YES!
The theater was packed when I saw it, young, old, black, white. At the end there was even a scattering of applause. Is it a Great Western no, but it was refreshing to see a non PC Western that wasn't a remake, wasn't historically accurate, wasn't touchy freely, wasn't serious in the least. 7-8/10.
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13 minutes ago, LawrenceA said:
ooking at a list of "international noir films" on Wikipedia, other French titles that I've seen that I liked include:
- Le Corbeau (1943)
- Touchez pas au grisbi (1954)
- Les Diaboliques (1955)
- Rififi (1955)
- Bob le flambeur (1956)
- Elevator to the Gallows (1958)
Like them also but I think Two Men In Manhattan is in English for The Cid which is why I listed it.
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6 hours ago, TheCid said:
I have watched some of the British noir movies, but never really got into them. As for French, not sure I have ever seen one as I do not watch foreign language movies, so it would have to have been one in English.
I Became a Criminal (1947)
The Long Memory (1953)
Never Let Go (1960)
French....
Two Men In Manhattan (1959)
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9 hours ago, kingrat said:
Nightmare Alley is great. Not to be missed, even if the film can't be quite so frank as we might like.
If it was it would have been pornographic......
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An open suggestion to TCM and Noir Alley. Once we exhaust the TCM Noir Film Library, it would be nice to make a conscientious effort to screen for us all The British and French Film that are out there that we never see along with the Paramount and Fox Noirs. 😎
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The animation cartoons I really hated were the ones that looked like they had real human mouths doing the talking when they spoke, I think there was a name for that process, but it escaped me now an so do any of the cartoon series that used it.
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15 hours ago, LawrenceA said:
A burner phone is a disposable, non-traceable cell phone that you can buy in many convenience stores or other locations. They are a frequent aspect of modern crime fiction, used by gangsters and other professional criminals.
You mean like the $30 flip phone I use and put $15 on every month, lol 😎
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4 hours ago, LawrenceA said:
The Bellboy and the Playgirls (1962) - 3/10
Bad "nudie cutie" with a hotel bellboy (Don Kenney) who alternates lurking around a movie shoot and working at a hotel where many lingerie models are staying and showing off their wares. Also featuring June Wilkinson, Karin Dor, and Willy Fritsch. The producers took a B&W German comedy named Sin Began with Eve, dubbed it into English, chopped much of the running time out, and then hired young filmmaker Francis Ford Coppola to write and direct new color footage. Coppola added the bellboy, as well as all of the scenes at the hotel. The movie shoot footage that Kenney watches is from the German flick. It's all stupid, regardless, and was originally shown in 3-D.
Source: internet
I can just imagine what was popping out of the screen, it may go up a notch with the 3D version, even I would give it a shot
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On 5/1/2019 at 10:15 AM, TopBilled said:
Thanks. Here are the plot descriptions:
THEY SEEMED LIKE SUCH NICE PEOPLE. This one is sort of a noir combined with horror. Herbert & Ethel Humphries are a very friendly elderly couple enjoying their retirement. They've spent their whole lives on the east coast, and decide to travel from New Jersey out to California on vacation. We see them fly to Los Angeles, make friends on the plane, then rent a car in L.A, where they make more friends at the car rental place. Everywhere they go they make friends. The following day, they drive along the coast highway from Los Angeles to San Francisco to see a cousin. Along the way, they stay at lovely seaside inns and commit a series of brutal murders. The murders take place at the inns, at gas stations and along the beaches. Nobody suspects what they're up to. At first it seems like they are committing the murders to rob their victims. But there is a pattern and all the people they've killed are related in some unique way.
Sounds pretty good
HAVE YOU EVER MET A LOAN SHARK WHO SAID "DON'T WORRY YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY ME BACK"..? UNLESS HE WAS DEAD OF COURSE. John Doherty is a mild-mannered grocery store manager that has an overbearing wife named Fran. Fran spends more than John earns. He is tempted to steal money from the store but knows that the security system is too sophisticated and he'd get caught. So he is forced to take money from a loan shark named Louie. John lies to Fran that he got a raise. A week later when Louie the loan shark expects the first payment, John of course he isn't able to repay it all, since considerable interest was added to the principle. Louie will forgive the debt if John will kill Louie's wife Paula. John grapples with this but finally agrees to do it. When he goes to kill Paula, he goes to the wrong location and sees Louie having an affair with Fran! In a rage he kills Louie, then takes over Louie's loan shark business. Louie's wife Paula gets the police involved.
Interesting
RAINY DAY FOR A PYROMANIAC. Varro Angelino helps failing businessmen torch their businesses to collect on the insurance. He does it in such a way that nobody can tell it was arson. Varro is very well known for this skill in certain circles and does a job like this once a week. But all of a sudden nobody has called Varro to torch anything, and he thinks it's because of recent police investigations in the city. Then he sees another fire on the news and realizes that was arson and a job he should have been called to do. It seems there's another guy named Sammy willing to do the same job for half the cost. Varro meets with Sammy and tries to get Sammy to to up his price and work together, so they can both stay in the racket. But Sammy doesn't do this for the money, he does it because of the thrill he gets from setting things on fire. Sammy is even willing to do this for free. That is not acceptable to Varro. So Varro ties up Sammy and gets ready to set him on fire. Only it's been raining heavily outside and the roof of the warehouse where they are having this altercation collapses and puts the fire out, just as police show up.
Good
JUST LEAVE YOUR NAME AND NUMBER AND I'LL KILL YOU RIGHT BACK. A Hitman's burner phone is used to take new jobs. However, he is struck by lightning in a storm while walking down an alley. His phone flies out of his hand and lands behind a dumpster. The hitman is taken to the hospital where he dies. The next morning a derelict named Harry is digging through the trash in the alley where the accident occurred. He sees the burner phone and picks it up just as someone is calling to offer him a job.
**** is a burner phone?
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Attack Of The Giant Leeches (1959)
Stars: Ken Clark, Yvette Vickers, Jan Shepard. A backwoods game warden and a local doctor discover that giant leeches are responsible for disappearances and deaths in a local swamp, but the local police don't believe them. Yvette Vickers is a cutie worth a watch for her. 5/10
Source: Film Detective Channel
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Well being a AficioNoirdo these:
The Killer Inside Me (2010)
The Iceman (2012)
Sin City: A Dame To Kill For (2014)
Cop Car (2015)
Too Late (2015)
The American Side (2016)
Hell or High Water (2016)
Nocturnal Animals (2016)
Frank & Lola (2016)
The rest:
Twin Peaks: The Return (David Lynch)
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, Ethan Coen, Joel Coen, US (2018)
Blade Runner 2049 (2017)
Inside Llewyn Davis (Joel Coen)
12 Years A Slave (Steve McQueen)
Nebraska (2013)
Roma (Alfonso Cuaron)
Of the original list didn't like
01. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller)
03. Moonlight (Barry Jenkins)
04. Boyhood (Richard Linklater)
05. The Social Network (David Fincher)
18. Her (Spike Jonze)
21. Inception (Christopher Nolan)
23. La La Land (Damien Chazelle)
Haven't seen
06. The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson)
08. Phantom Thread (Paul Thomas Anderson)
09. A Separation (Asghar Farhadi)
11. Get Out (Jordan Peele)
12. Under the Skin (Jonathan Glazer)
13. Carol (Todd Haynes)
14. Margaret (Kenneth Lonergan)
15. Toni Erdmann (Maren Ade)
16. Uncle Boonmee (Apichatpong Weerasethakul)
19. Call Me By Your Name (Luca Guadagnino)
20. The Act of Killing (Joshua Oppenheimer)
25. Certified Copy (Abbas Kiarostami)
26. The Florida Project (Sean Baker)
27. Amour (Michael Haneke)
28. Ida (Pawel Pawlikowski)-
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6 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said:
There's just one other difference between the two M's that I noticed, and it connects with what you were saying about the sexual obsessions of the killer. The Losey version has the killer collect the shoes of the children he kills. He has some kind of fetish about little girls' shoes. I'm not sure that adds to the story much, although it doesn't detract from it either. It wasn't necessary in Lang's M. In the later version, it helps in establishing concrete evidence when the police search Harrow's apartment.
I don't remember, but did Lorre play a flute too?
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