casablancalover
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[Jack is kissing Rose's hand]
>*I saw that in a nickelodeon once and I've always wanted to do it.*
Leonardo DiCaprio, Titanic (1997)
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I know you didn't mean it really, Jake. You are usually careful in what you post.
The 1997 version has one aspect that I do love over the others. The eternal link of love. Despite the years and the heartache, in the end Jack and Rose are together. Their love transcends time itself.
Lewis Bodine: We never found anything on Jack... there's no record of him at all.
Old Rose: No, there wouldn't be, would there? And I've never spoken of him until now... Not to anyone... Not even your grandfather... A woman's heart is a deep ocean of secrets. But now you know there was a man named Jack Dawson and that he saved me... in every way that a person can be saved. I don't even have a picture of him. He exists now... only in my memory.
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Thanks Sineaste. He's got a great deep voice.
Highway Patrol...
They were all over I-35E and US55 here today. Maybe the lovely early Spring weather brings them out.
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> {quote:title=FiendishThingie wrote:}{quote}
> > {quote:title=casablancalover wrote:}{quote}
> > It's a lot like life. Even if there's a twist in your life story, it makes the expected goal that much more satisfying.
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> Well-put. And it is almost a necessary outcome, considering the amount of patience and restraint Garson's character exercised throughout the film. To rob her and the viewers of that reward--the reunion of Paula and Smithy--would have been too much of a downer for such a romantic film.
I am so glad the movie has the ending we see. It's not Madame Butterfly.
Edited by: casablancalover on Feb 27, 2010 9:18 PM,
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Thanks MM, I will up the stakes.
*O Fortuna*, for Orff's Carmina Burana:
Click on the (more info) on right of the youtube clip to read translation..
Edited by: casablancalover on Feb 27, 2010 3:07 PM
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h5. Will Write Comedy feature 4 Food.
Why FiendishThingie? Because these Branded projects have $$$$ all around them. Production costs can be covered for this, and the wonderful clever original writers out there can amuse themselves posting here until their names are known. Hitchcock they know. Others they don't.
I wonder how much story will be dropped/changed in the remake? There wasn't enough action.
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>Smithy: *I don't even know who I am.*
>Paula: *Well, I know who you are. You're someone awfully nice.*
Ronald Colman, Greer Garson, Random Harvest (1942)
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You play my two favorites of Johnny Cash, then you follow it up with a great article. Thank you.
h5. And thanks for the Michael Bolton..._post_ haircut.
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*Thank you, thank you, thank you! ! !*
*Love that version!*
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Give people the ending they want, even if it isn't quite the one they are expecting.
The ending is the desired one. Nothing wrong with that! Not every great story has a surprise ending.
It's a lot like life. Even if there's a twist in your life story, it makes the expected goal that much more satisfying.
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>*Smithy, do I always have to take the initiative? You're supposed to kiss me.*
Greer Garson, Random Harvest (1942)
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> {quote:title=Swithin wrote:}{quote}
> Actually, I was thinking of the later scene between Greer and Philip Dorn, right after Colman proposes to Greer so that she can be his sort of society hostess. Dorn (the shrink) tells her to "stick to his terms."
I remember that scene. You can see Greer's(Margaret) heart sink, at the thought of the coolness at which Colman(Charles) will be treating her. Yet, she agrees to the bargain. Marrying Charles will become a transaction between them. She wants to be loved again, and it may never happen. Margaret may feel that Charles so cared for Kitty, and now Margaret will be just the fill-in for society's sake. What a lousy turn of events. That's why Margaret cries about beads. Frustration with the whole situation.
> But I think one of the most moving scenes in the film is the scene with Greer crying over the cheap beads.
That scene makes me cry too. It is the seemingly meaningless connections to our past that brings rise to the deepest emotions.
Remember when Paula/Margaret says: *Smithy, do I always have to take the initiative?*
Those lines come back to me too in this part of the story. It is so true.
Edited by: casablancalover on Feb 26, 2010 8:32 AM- I looked up the quote.
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Haha. I think I get it too, JF.. Just looking at it, yes, it should be censored
I am not saying anything more. ;-)
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> {quote:title=Sprocket_Man wrote:}{quote}
> No, that's not it at all. Dr Benet counsels against Paula's telling Charles that they'd been husband and wife when he was "Smithy" because the Doctor fears that -- even though Charles would probably do the honorable thing and resume married life with Paula -- he'd resent Paula's coming between him and Kitty, ensuring that neither of them would ever be truly happy.
That's what I remember from the story too. This is where I think my friend got lost over the subterfuge. I can understand it.
It was sort of muddling though how the Doctor wanted Paula. I mean, she's beautiful, but it added an element in the story that ups the stakes wrong. Maybe I'm being too picky about it. Maybe the writer just wanted to demonstrate Paula's resolve -- as if looking for Smithy without an ounce of resentment in her heart wasn't enough. Her nobility about it is stunning. I admire it.
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The Discussion my friend and I had was basically she thought why not come right out and say it!! I thought the circumstances, and time lost made by approaching a member of the landed gentry by a woman who used to work the stage, and her rather fantastic story very un-plausible. Also, her discovery of Charles was not immediate; It is suggested that it takes place about 4 years After Charles returns to the family estate, business and financial affairs, so about 7 years since she last saw him. That is why she probably has her marriage terminated by the court, and can do so.
And there's the not so small matter why she does this. Kitty. That must have broken Paula/Margaret's heart all over again, to see another woman in her place, and so much younger and eager to marry her sweet Charles. I think Paula/Margaret just wanted to learn more.
Well, How's my theory?
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> {quote:title=audreyforever wrote:}{quote}
> Everyone should watch the intro to Random Harvest as an Essential in the TCM Media Room, done by Sydney Pollack.
*Nice suggestion. Thank you.*
>scsu1975 wrote:
>Because then she'd have to explain to Charles that, after he wandered off, she shacked up with some guy named Miniver.
*That occurred to me too. And how would she explain that her son (Richard Ney), is really her boyfriend? Or was Ney her first husband?*
>FredCDobbs wrote:
>The first time I saw the movie, I didn?t think of that.
>The second and third time I saw it, then I did think of that.
>The answer is, I don?t know.
>The same when they got married that second time, but had separate bedrooms. Why didn?t she just kiss him and act coy and start the romance all over again? After all, it was her that he liked in the first place.
*I think she did have hopes a little of doing just that. But Charles is sort of a fussbudget. Smithy was not. Maybe she thought, she should try to get the "Smithy" to come out.. Our discussion followed another path. More about that...*
>I suppose there is some ?psychological? reason she didn?t do it, perhaps on the advice of her doctor friend, or maybe on the advice of the director or screenwriter.
*Oh, this screenplay is the work of a novelist! Right down to the _KEY_ to the mystery of Charles lost years. Maybe he was writing screenplays now. My understanding it was originally a novel.*
If I knew I would get reaction like this, I wish Renee would have said something sooner.
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>Franklin M. Hart Jr: *Judy - Judy, you've got to help me..that mob out there is crazy They're trying to kill me!*
>Judy: *Now, why would they want to do a nasty little thing like that?*
>Franklin M. Hart Jr.: *I don't know! I'm not such a bad guy!*
>Judy: *You're a sexist, egotistical, lying, hypocritical bigot.*
Dabney Coleman, Jane Fonda, 9 to 5 (1980)
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h4. What's Love Got To Do With It?
That is the same reason I don't care for Duel In the Sun. This is LOVE? No. This is mutual self-loathing by two selfish, game playing pretty people.
Edited by: casablancalover on Feb 25, 2010 7:37 PM
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Yes, that was exactly the type of conversation I had. But I will send a PM with the precise wording he used.
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h4. Spoiler Alert!
Random Harvest is a lovely movie, but I've been in a quandary with a friend over motivations of Paula/Margaret. This friend felt that Paula should have told Smithy/Charles right away about the lost years. She couldn't understand why she would involve herself with subterfuge.
What do you think?
I am going to have my morning coffee now, and think about it.
Edited by: casablancalover on Feb 25, 2010 7:30 AM
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Great choices, JF, and I found 2 different ones at about the same time.
George Harrison, and some fine company:
and a fun solo bit:
h5. Happy birthday, George, where ever you are up there..
Edited by: casablancalover on Feb 24, 2010 11:00 PM, because she appreciates being here. Thanks Jake.
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It is even stranger than that! My phone and internet are bundled, yet I had phone, but no WiFi. My Apt building has a dedicated contract to some fly-by-night outfit for satellite. I am too stubborn to pay for myself, so I would watch the best (when available) in the party room on their BIG screen. Party room was occupied, and lost the opportunity. Must try NetFlix next.
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> {quote:title=sineaste wrote:}{quote}
>The title of the Mirren movie is The Passion of Ayn Rand. Yuck already.
*The Passion...? *Oh dear..*
>It shows up on IFC or Sundance once in a blue moon. One thing I truly admire about Dame
> Helen is her willingness to do anything to make her role more realistic, even if that includes removing most of her clothing. What a trouper. Now here's a mental image to make one wince: Ayn and Ducky in an intimate love in the afternoon embrace. Atlas Hurled.
*You get extra points for Atlas Hurled. Excellent! My most memorable Mirren performance is Morgana Le Fey in Excalibur*
*Analle, non thrach, ...*
*--Damn-- Darn, she was good at words of enchantment. I wonder if that's available in Rosetta Stone?*
> >Wink? How has that erudite publication slipped my conscientious?
> I really don't notice. I'm too busy reading the articles on Hungarian Medieval Poetry, etc., though they did have a centerfold of Lillian Hellman a few years back that created quite a stir.
*This is WINK? It does have a catchier title than the Utne Reader..*
> >No comment. And no, I didn't have anything to do with my ex's girlfriend being run down in the parking lot. I just thought, being younger she could get out of the way faster... _And of course, I just missed her. No woman were harmed in the parking lot of the shopping center..._
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> That's the trouble with some of these kids today, they need to get more exercise. No pain,
> no gain.
*Her especially. She out-weighed me. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I have a very small frame, that's all. I needed the _small, indescript foreign car_ just to make it fair!*
Edited by: casablancalover on Feb 25, 2010 7:33 AM
Random thoughts on Random Harvest
in General Discussions
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Glad you stuck with it. Sorry about coming in halfway/two-thirds way. A story needs a reveal, everybody needs to be clued in on what's happening. The best part is when an important character is unaware, and the clever way the truth comes out. Would Kitty caught on sooner if it wasn't for the KEY?
My girlfriend and I are still discussing honesty is the best policy aspects. Her line, the wife always finds out My response, Amnesia is convenient, but could no longer be used as a defense nowdays.