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I just thought of another one: Harrison Ford in *Air Force One* . A President who can kick ****. If we remade it, maybe we could recast it with Will Smith or Denzel Washington? ;-) Yes we can.

Haven't heard of this one before Kim. The only secret society I had heard stars being part of is the *Sons Of The Desert*. Stan and Ollie were part of that one. Seriously though, what society?

> {quote:title=Bargar wrote:}{quote} > When I first read the thread, I > immediately thought of L.Tracy. I find it rewarding to see actors from the 30s who > played very different types of roles, play a more mature role with conviction. > _Lee Tracy usually played the fast-talking wheeler and dealer_. My emphasis It doesn't differ from a politician. If you think your Representatives in Govt shouldn't be wheeler-dealers, then you don't understand the workings of a Democratic Republic. The point is they need to wheel and deal for ultimate good of all. Give a litte to get a little works in these transactions. Sorry if this sounded like a rant. It is not at all. I think Bargar brought up a great observation. It may be the reason the Director/Producer tapped him for the job.

> {quote:title=ChelseaRialtoStudios wrote:}{quote} > Well, definitely NOT Walter Huston in GABRIEL OVER THE WHITE HOUSE!! > > I think my favorite movie President is Fredric March in SEVEN DAYS IN MAY. I think his is the most realistic portrayal of a more than capable individual placed in an extraordinary position. > I agree Fredric March is good in the film, but I think on honest portrayal of the politician as President is Lee Tracy as Pres. Hockstader in *The Best Man*.

I love the Pants scene too! But my favorite is with Joel McCrea and Jean Arthur on the front steps and her talking "policies" and his wandering hands -- and lips! It's great!

> {quote:title=ddalehall wrote:}{quote} > No LOVE LETTERS on Dec. 9th alongside the other Cotten/Jennifer Jones flicks? > Does TCM no longer hold the rights to this one? > I love *Love Letters* ; it is my favorite Joseph Cotton and Jennifer Jones flick. In the movie, his late aunt had picture of Joseph (Allan Quinten) as a small child. I believe it _is_ a picture of the Joseph Cotton, because the same photograph appears in another movie as his childhood photo! *But what was the title?* I hope there's a DVD out there, because I've worn out my copy on VHS tape!

Thanks for the replies, mr6666, and your observations. Thanks Kyle for mentioning *American Madness* which is one of the first Capra "everyman" dramas. Not an official classification but one most Capra fans will understand. Wasn't there once a Depression Movies thread running? For way out there on the theme, I'm going to see if I can find *Medium Cool* somewhere. I wonder if it will still pack the same punch for me that it did years ago. Its not just Casablanca I love -

> {quote:title=CineMaven wrote:}{quote} > I'm thinking of a Twilight Zone episode. It's the show where we have two political parties. One party is dull, boring and more of the same. It starts to parrot and appropriate the other party's vim, vigor, call for Change. > > It also thinks the American public is stupid and puts a woman in their campaign showing the contempt for American women's intelligence. (You know, that women will vote for a woman because she's a woman). See, they'll put the woman in as the V.P. but will really have some man running the office from behind the scenes. > > As the boring and dull and more of the same party is at the inauguration and the president is sworn in, our hapless reporter is trying to break through the crowd shouting, "It's a cookbook!!" The Secret Service takes her away. Fear and intimidation wins again as the new president places his hand on the bible to swear in. > > By the time Rod Serling finally comes on the scene he explains that the American public is gullible. The sponsors come and haul Rod away. CineMaven- You are the master! ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha- and Ha! ROFL, 'cept it could be true!

> {quote:title=mr6666 wrote:}{quote} > Just to mention *Gabriel Over the White House* ('33), airing 9-17 > One of my favorites, directed by Gregory LaCava & featuring one of Walter Huston's best performances as a president mysteriously transformed from political hack to savior or dictator, depending on you POV. > Pre-FDR and 1st to address the unemployment, crime and homeless resulting drom The Great Depression. > Seems pretty timely, considering present cicumstances. > TCM Article here: http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title.jsp?stid=1553&category=Articles > (Kind of reminds me of *Dave* with Kevin Kline. Good one, too) > > (P.S. Ditto on the 'Nashville' refrence) Wowsa- how you can watch *Gabriel* and be reminded of *Dave* I cannot fathom. Maybe because its a story about a President?

> {quote:title=ccbaxter wrote:}{quote} > Ha! Did you catch that brief shot of Kiss - they look like they can't wait to go home. > > I want that jacket Lynde was wearing; I'm sure it would make me a hit with the ladies. Yes, I would want to hit you if you wore that jacket! Not really, but I would back away, verrrry slooowly..... I had a sequined-bodice party dress once. I wouldn't want to be in competition with the guy I'm with for attention. That jacket doesn't work for Paul Lynde; I don't believe that jacket would even work for my Dapper Dan man- George Clooney. Some looks are still too painfully close in my memory. That jacket needs to mellow for a few more decades... ;-)

Congratulations Gus! I am looking forward to this showing as well. What a primo time! I feel the start of a Christmas tradition with this!

Welcome, KathleenAnn, to the boards! I would be clutching anyone handy with the ones already mentioned. *The Haunting* - I don't if I'll ever watch it again, now that I live in an old house! But the ones that terrify me now: *Mr Blandings Builds His Dream House* *The Money Pit*

Thus we come full circle. The view of the _Vertigo then and now_ show how our view has changed. Thanks again, ccbaxter, for the great thread.

>scsu1975 wrote: > Well, he has gotten older and heavier ... not exactly "leading man" material now. Take a look at him in his prime in The Hunt for Red October - he looks great there. Older and heavier?! I'd still be ecstatic if he played in one of my screenplays. I'd tailor for him. Great acting is great acting.

Wowsa; What would be your favorite 80's movie? I think I would say *Caddyshack* , with *Ghostbusters* a close second. For drama, I can only think of *Excalibur*. Message was edited by: casablancalover

Ha, ha! I sorta miss the big hair, but not the shoulder pads. Pads on women belong on their breasts!

Got it! Butter: *Chocolat* next: Mortgage

I'm stumped; cc, can you think of one? Message was edited by: casablancalover Message was edited by: casablancalover

I think nostalgia is like relating stories of childbirth; at first you give all the details, then as your children grow up, you start to wax poetic. The the length, time and pain are less of an issue, and the miracle of the first touch is what stays. I do not call my sons at their brith hour like Billy Crystal's mom in *City Slicker's*. My oldest would not appreciate it!

*Household Saints* Next word: manifold.

> {quote:title=CelluloidKid wrote:}{quote} > *_Local Hero_ (1983) W./Burt Lancaster ...An American oil company sends a man to Scotland to buy up an entire village where they want to build a refinery.* And don't forget *Brassed Off* , which really takes the Thatcher govt to task, and the local band tries to keep it's little Yorkshire town together. And *The Full Monty* , where 6 guys out of work try to break into showbiz!

*Alice Adams* - Katherine Hepburn attends a party on a raining night, gets publically humiliated, and she stands at her bedroom window later, crying, and the POV is the image of the rain pouring on the pane, and we see her through the pane, her eyes pouring out as well is heartbreakingly beautiful.

And may I recommend a another beautiful piece of music in return: *The Lark Ascending* by Ralph Vaughn Williams. On my iPod, in not less than 3 playlists!

Not American working class, but *The Citadel* is a terrific film about the British Workers, and what they put up with in their conditions. For the effect on the Welsh, see *How Green Was My Valley*. For the working stiffs here, an off-beat view would be *The Next Voice You Hear* . Not so much, working man story, but the effects on the working man. For pure working stiffs: *The Grapes of Wrath* *The Salt of the Earth*

> {quote:title=MattHelm wrote:}{quote} > Kyle, > > Excellent questions, as always. > > I did join the teacher's union eventually because I was scared into it. They approach you with no positive benefits for joining, but they tell you that even if the child perceives you as striking or bullying them, the union will be at your beck and call with lawyers and have a million bucks to pay for your defense. Nice. But that's the way of the education world. I'm surprised that my union rep's name isn't Tony Soprano. If a student doesn't like their reprimand or punishment, they're smart enough, or the parents are, to target the teacher. I feel dirty for submitting to the union because I hate them, but?kids and parents just aren't the same when we were kids. Everyone sees themselves as a victim these days. > > As to your question about the price of crude oil, I would also add that the problem with gas prices are the speculators that buy and trade oil contracts. But I think the government's taxes are far worse. I actually wrote (or thought I did) that the combined fed and state taxes were around 60 cents for some states. The federal taxes are around 18 cents and state taxes can range from 7 to 50 cents. So, you were scared into joining the union? Please read again what you wrote; and imagine applying Republicans into the scenario of terrorism, and I think that's why so many vote Republican. Fear. I am tired of frightened Americans. Thank you for mentioning the speculation on crude oil. Remember, however, that those taxes are based per gallon, not per dollar. That explains multi-billions in profits. And the Investment Houses own most of the oil contracts. The oil companies just got mega-rich selling them on the world market.