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One favorite? He has given me so many.
In Harvey, while Elwwod's sitting in the cafe with his doctor and his nurse. The evening wore on...
His argument with Geo C Scott about Mrs. Mannning's panties in the Antomy of a Murder.
His first sighting of Kim Novak at Ernie's restaurant, and the scene dragging his "Madeline" up the bell tower stairs, in Vertigo.
His hearing his "sound" and having the ah-ha! moment in The Glenn Miller Story.
His Alfred Kralik, when he tells Clara who he really is in The Shop Around the Corner..
Thanks for the thread..
Edited by: casablancalover on Aug 7, 2011 8:59 PM
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h4. Acting without saying a word.
It is what sets apart actors from the movie stars. I mean, you could look beautiful, but an actor needs to convey more of a message than just being beautiful. Flowers are pretty, but all they can elicit is that they are lovely. The emotional response we have is to the person we associate with the flower. Who sent them...
When you read a screenplay, the words of the character are usually all the actor has to work with. The action will give clues, but the story will show the emotional direction of the character. It is still up to the actor to show us what is going on inside themselves. Great emotion, little emotion; anger, confusion, joy, love, hate. Maybe the silent era helped the screen actor. Funny, never thought of that before. The audience had silent movies and they had radio plays in the twenties. Unless you attended the theater, the electronic age was very limited for the telling of the story.
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Swithin wrote:
>Though I like them both, I don't really see much of a connection between Colman and Cooper. Colman excelled in the more refined English romantic/heroic roles; Cooper in the (unfortunately stereotypical) all-American boy roles.
I agree with your take on the types they portray. Ronald Colman must have had one the best voices anywhere, and he's shown time and again how well he can turn a phrase. We know that Coop could deliver more than just "Yup". He could speak with conviction as well, in different roles. I was referring to their ability to convey feelings through limited expression. Sometimes words are not called for, and it is in their facial reaction we see a side of the character and what he is feeling.
Edited by: casablancalover on Aug 6, 2011 10:52 PM
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Today, I heard a story about some new road projects in our state, and the first thing I thought, when I heard the details of what was being arranged, was "Willet Creek".
Jeff is deserted by he thinks is everyone in DC. But Saunders hasn't deserted him. She is back with encouragement.
The best part, for me, of this longer clip is what Saunders says to the discouraged Jeff..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YTW1ytx3D0&feature=related
Edited by: casablancalover on Aug 6, 2011 8:48 PM
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When someone notices the tears in her eyes.. Terry McKay responds-
>*Beauty does that to me..*
Deborah Kerr
An Affair to Remember
(1957)
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>Smithy: *I don't even know who I am.*
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>Paula: *Well, I know who you are. You're someone awfully nice.*
Ronald Colman, Greer Garson
Random Harvest
(1942)
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It is a beautiful movie.
Seeing the incredibly lovely Greer Garson reminds me of something:
>I would rather be loved for being kind and funny than for being beautiful. I can always treat people kindly and always be funny. Being beautiful has an expiration date.
I will work that into script. Call it a favorite line from a soon-to-be movie.
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h4. Spoiler Alert
rosebette wrote:
>Colman's right up there with Coop as one of the greatest actors gifted with sensitive underplaying of a role.
That is an interesting observation! I would not have thought of Cooper and Colman having similar approaches to acting. But when you think of both actors in films, they are very deft at underplaying with limited, but very effective, facial expressions. Colman and Cooper have a great sense of how to look befuddled without looking stupid (Random Harvest/Meet John Doe).
I was just speaking with a friend yesterday (ccerini) about the first time one would see this movie and the surprise 3/4 of the way through. I just sat there on the couch, dumbfounded! I didn't see it coming! I am grateful the dialog is slowed down, to let me catch my breath for a moment, then the exposition is gratefully appreciated. I hesitate to say more.
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Billy Ocean:
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>*Have you, Charles? Do you feel that there... really is someone? That someday you may find her? You may have... come so near her, may even have brushed her on the street... You might even have met her, Charles. Met her and not known her. It might be someone you know, Charles. It might... it might even be me.*
Greer Garson
Random Harvest
(1942)
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Beach Boys:
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If we love someone, we will love them through anything. And everything.
Nat King Cole:
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I love that version of Stardust as well. Johnny Mathis did it in the sixties, and it seemed with the exact arrangement- he wasn't going to mess with perfection.
I don't know if I will get to Casablanca (not even on my bucket list) but if anyone should question my patriotism, I do know the _four_ verses of Our National Anthem. I just have trouble reaching some of the notes (like many of us).
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I thought Wondermoon was a good name till you mentioned Marxists. Then I thought, *GrouchoMarxist* Maybe there is a sock puppet searching for an ID out there...
Thanks, Brigid.
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Thank you for the comment. I know a little something about many things. Natural curiosity.
I have a French lesson now.. No kidding. I want to sing La Marseillaise in France someday, so I need to be prepared. One cannot manifest a dream without preparing.
Edited by: casablancalover on Aug 3, 2011 9:54 PM
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I have to say, Wouldbestar, that Friedhofer's score is beautiful but doesn't get too cute.. Schamaltzy is always a hazard in drama like that. The original soundtrack (or close to it) is available on iTunes, and I picked it up!
I always wonder how Friedhofer felt about Hoagy Carmichael, one of the premiere tin pan alley songwriters, being in the picture. This movie has Two Musical Geniuses contributing to it. When Homer asks Butch to play a little something, Hoagy proceeds to give us his own Lazy River...
Among My Souvenirs is written by neither Carmichael's or Friedhofer's. I wonder why it was chosen; maybe a personal, sentimental favorite of Wyler's.
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Four Tops:
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Clore wrote:
>I was discussing this with a friend of mine and he says that a lot of films in the digiital format suffer from this. Somehow the range is such that soft sounds are softer and loud ones are louder and that it mostly affects the soundtracks to recent films.
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>I do notice that when I watch recent films on TV, I'm constantly playing with the remote as the scores need lowering and the dialogue passages need raising. Again, not all films but then I don't tend to dwell on the high-tech comic book adaptations.
h4. The Low & Order music effect
This is another possibility. This one has bothered my son and me since the program Law & Order started. I call it the _Low_ & Order effect, for at times during the program Mike Post's score drowns out the conversation! Usually in the last 20 minutes in the program. It seems almost 20 decibels louder than the characters speaking their lines! We suspect it is part of the broadcast bad audio technicalities, and not necessarily by design. It does happen during the aforementioned parts, and not for emphasis. I am not speaking the show's signature two-note marking the shift in story plot.
It could be that the broadcast technically was pumped, for watching the DVD I did not notice the characters being drowned out by Hugo's orchestration. Can you fine tune your TV audio?
Edited by: casablancalover on Aug 3, 2011 7:12 PM, because she forgot the reference of the original post..
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Elvis Presley:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKCFH-ZPE5w
Bonne nuit.
Edited by: casablancalover on Aug 2, 2011 10:53 PM
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Wayne wrote:
>My favorite moment comes early in the film during the cab ride the 3 soldiers share. They look out the window and see two teenage boys driving alongside in a hotrod roadster. To me, the smiles on Al's, Fred's, and Homer's faces simultaneously say, "That was ME a few years back," and "I never thought I'd live to see a sight like that again." I laughed out loud (laughing for joy) when they spotted that hotrod and was happy they were home.
I like that scene too. For me the best part is they really appreciate being home, so much so, that they are not resentful at all of what they went through while other's were at home.. except for, umm. Stinky Merkel, the 4F worm..
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Clore wrote:
>The characters, the situations - they're enough to elicit my reactions. Friedhofer's score is too obvious in its punctuation of each little detail. It should compliment the scene, not overwhelm it.
We disagree. Friedhofer took home the Academy Award for his score, I thought he deserved it. I'll go one better; this scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU0d3DVcKoY
First, listen to the whisper in the score as Derry's dad reads the citation. Bringing up the music validates the beauty, doesn't detract. Gen. Dolittle and Fred Derry deserves the accolade of a fanfare.
Next, the incredible depth, and using the low brass for the this fanfare reprise for this common man.. this everyday Fred Derry, who watches the past glory now fading fast in the Aircraft Graveyard.. The engines start- one after the other, in one of the most effective uses of camera and visual imagery, tied with music, I have ever witnessed. The music again punctuates it.
Without the music (score) it may deaden the reactions. It may seem more voyeuristic and disengaged for the viewer as a newsreel.
One more thing to note. The year 1946. This score tied to the action is the mark of the premium releases in Hollywood. It is a movie of it's time. The less expensive productions didn't have the budget for a great score to accompany it. I appreciate it's period in movie-making history. But I also appreciate these composers as well.
Maybe you need a break from watching it so you don't pick it apart out of familiarity. I let the whole effect wash over me fresh after taking a break. In fact, there was a 3-4 year period when I didn't watch Casablanca for that reason.
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Man, Dargo, you had me reliving the late 1980s/early 1990s there this morning. Waking up to make coffee and finding my sons asleep in the family room surrounded by a Pizza Hut box or two, (When did they order that?) and the frozen TV screen in pause of the Mario Bros hitting 10,000, or some such silliness. It makes me look forward to grandchildren -the ones you can enjoy and spoil for short spurts of time.. Just don't break Mom's favorite lamp.
Then, charming Dargo, you had this explanation:
>And, as I said earlier in this thing, another one of my favorite scenes is when Al pretty much tells off hs boss Milton in his welcome home banquet speech by saying somthin' like, "And, we're going to continue to give out loans to people so much that some people might say that we're gambling with our investors' money. And we WILL be, because we'll be gambling on the future of this country!"
>Okay, and now, and NOT to get into another little "political tiff" here again mind you, BUT wouldn't you agree that there does seem to be a mild strain of Progressive or slight Left-of-Center thought subtlely being "preached" in this film? Especially considering the course the script takes in order to bring in the Mollett character and make him the catalyst for Fred's firing from the drug store.
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>(...and as you might have gathered by now, I have absolutely NO problem with that, IF in fact that IS the case)
I am back in the rare midday just this once, hopefully. My conference call is sooooooo booooring!
Funny, how you suggest your view is a mild strain of Progressive politics. In mid 1940s, that view was strictly middle of the road. Investment in the infrastructure and the future of this country was our duty as citizens. Now we can't even get people to get off their hind ends and do minimum duty to vote, unless they think they can make more money for themselves to do it. Then their pay gets cut, so they vote in more politicians to cut their taxes.
Mr. Milton is thinking of his bottom line, that's all. No need to raise our voices.. His rights are not being trampled on. But, that, (looks at his loan application for the name) Novak, he is just a veteran.
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h4. Jane Eyre (1944) - 20th Century Fox release
h5. My favorite Rochester.. and we discussed it after the showing.
Don't doubt yourself, VX. I feel certain it was on here, on TCM, it seems a while ago, but it was here. It was shown only once or twice. Someone here knows for certain.