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But Jonny, _I had to actually spell it out_.. Don't take too much credit LOL. . . Edited by: casablancalover on Jan 28, 2010 8:40 PM

Actually, I credit JonnyGeetar. He got me thinking on this. The Women isn't the standard romance formula. It's just the Reno thing and all the western getups makes a perfect little cinematic joke and ties it all up in a lasso. I think Anita Loos and Claire Boothe Luce are brilliant!

> {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote} > Yes, I read Riva's book. It's one of the best of the "child of star" memoirs. It doesnt paint a very flattering protrait of Marlene, but most stars werent all that great in the child raising dept. Especially glamour queens......... I think when you are too busy obsessing on yourself, you don't have time for raising children. They come throughly helpless, and your time must be spent on them.

I see I may have gotten into the JakeHolman style of just music. Why not both? I hope to see more of AJ's posts (I mean she found Dead Can Dance!) and I do love music, but not knowing the details is fun for me too. I love research and the old looking stuff up, though I don't have all the resources I used to have. The ex has most of the books. For quite a while I didn't care for Mozart at all; too plinky-plinky-plinky. But the later works are beautiful.. sorry, I will look up some unusual superlatives... Here's a guy who moved me from the disco seventies to something a little deeper. Boz Scaggs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCYmp2bKvbQ Edited by: casablancalover on Jan 28, 2010 5:46 PM, still searching for superlatives...

Perfect for Dorothy now.. We are approaching a full moon, and Moonlight Becomes Her..

I don't want to read too much into it, but it's fun to look at the basis of The Women. It isn't the romance standard formula for me. Good girl is wronged by bad girl. Good girl must stand up for herself when "friends" seem fair-weathered. Good girl and bad girl have showdown, and it is the talk of the townsfolk. Good girl has to face the crisis, is supported by true blue sidekicks. Good girl wins respect of all around by clearing the air of the deceit. Good girl vanquishes bad girl-who exits "the town". Exchange cowboy for girl.... Men just up the ante, adding guns and a card game. BTW- I just LOVE the repeated reference to *Jungle Red.*

With the abilities of CG and the newest sophisticated digital editing, we may yet see a classic reborn.. CM- get thee the copyright! I vote for Clooney/Stanwyck in...The Lady Eve or Remember the Night. Edited by: casablancalover on Jan 28, 2010 10:31 AM

Loved it, MM. I drifted back to youtube for another Michael McDonald solo, and I discovered the last LP record I purchased. Kenny Loggins, Keep the Fire. I did wear out a song on it. This is it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7-e6Yhu5SU&feature=fvw

Your observations are persuasive, Lafitte. The whole movie with its themes, make it a wonder. That is for another thread. I am going to have a bagel and some smoked salmon now, and be glad it's not Ale-brod. Thank you again for your musical and story knowledge here.

Started by whom, I wonder... (not making any suggestions)

Actually, seeing the scene again something comes at me from left field. There is a shot of the sister and the father listening in the next room, both looking rather strained. Maybe the meaning isn't lost on them... Wasn't the singing beautiful, by the way. Papin was wonderful, to me.

Oh, but it was a fun myth...

> {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote} > How about Dan Fogelberg and Tim Weisberg - "Tell Me To My Face." > > > > And something slower from the same album, "Since You Asked." > > > > (Neither written by Dan.) Those are so beautiful, and ring of truth. Lives committed to one another. Face to face; experience by experience. They are on top of thread for more to enjoy.. Thank you.

Amazing Lafitte to read this, for I know the story plot, and it is so lyrical, so poetic, and so redemptive, this aria now seems wrong...but it is still one of the most beautiful pieces of music in film. This, and Kiri's aria in A Room With a View. Thank you for your insight.

> {quote:title=JonnyGeetar wrote:}{quote} > It's funny that you mention John Wayne, because I remembered something today I read a while ago in Inside Oscar : > > He shot down a question in regards to her reputation for being frosty and aloof with fellow actors and was quick to point out that visiting servicemen were always welcome at her dressing room, unlike others he had worked with. *He didn't mean the way Clara Bow always welcomed the USC football team, did he?* > Meanwhile... > > Hedda Hopper called Arthur "the most criticized star in Hollywood" *Hedda Hopper? Did she know some of the posters here?* Edited by: casablancalover on Jan 27, 2010 9:57 PM, on "tense" patrol...

Happy to oblige.. In honor of Mozart's birthday, something from Babettes Feast, but which opera: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAQuQkT-lIk The music starts at the 3:45 mark.. movieman1957, please correct me if I'm mistaken.

I did not care for the movie, Elvira Madigan, but absolutely adore the Piano Concerto 21. I like this and one other.. Thank you MM. Edited by: casablancalover on Jan 27, 2010 5:50 PM

It does get shown on FMC from time to time, when they are not making us retch with their repeats of Point Break and The Pleasure Seekers...

I remember that! I did really well in that University. I think I only had a glass of wine during the exam..a red...

Thank you for helping out MM. This is not my thread, but we all let our voices be heard. Your selections remind me that there is so much great music in the world. Something this morning on a theme. *Taking it to the Streets*. Great song.. Doobie Brothers: Another turn by Tonic Solfa, (this time w/Taiko drum support): I'm a big fan of Michael McDonald too. Feb 12 birthday.. so near my own. He will get his own day-- He and Lincoln. February's gonna be busy...

Lz is right with the description. Your sign in there can be absolutely the same as here. Setting up your page is relatively easy, but for now the Classic Film Union is a little clunky to get around.. I do check my fb page, (I mean, real facebook.com) far more often than the union. I know they will make improvements and speed things up, but for the time being for instant messaging, this is the place. If you like the looong comment, the Union is the place to go. You may post blogs and and you may delete them- an advantage you do not have here. We are usually at the will of the top of the thread thing.. Some of the regulars here do not do much of anything on the CFU. Maybe, like me, they are holding out for a little speed...

Glad to read your take on this lz. I feel safer now in admitting that I didn't care for OAHW I did keep thinking "What is Jean Arthur doing in this?". It is one I have never been able to stay awake through. The other one is Holiday with Grant/Hepburn.

> {quote:title=JonnyGeetar wrote:}{quote} > It reminds me of a story about how, during the filming of Mr. Skeffington , Bette Davis crashed a Packard Coupe through what she thought was Vincent Sherman's living room and made it all the way to the Solarium when she discovered it was actually Michael Curtiz's house. > > Boy, was THAT embarassing! *Wait a Minute! This is beginning to sound like What Ever Happened to Baby Jane.* Where was Joan Crawford during all this?

I've read those accounts too. I think there is more going on than fear. I liked her in Shane, but honestly she didn't have to emote that much. Comedy is hard, for a reason. The risk of being upstaged is very real, and you don't know it for certain until the film editor is done with their job. Then it's too late.

I've read that too. Apparently she suffered from severe stage fright. But the more I work with actual actors in plays and in movies, the more unbelievable this explanation becomes. In this biz you just can't get anywhere with that personality quirk working against you. Stage fright is just that. You are frightened of performing. We all get nervous from time to time, but it is *ACTING*, (I'm thinkin' of Jon Lovitz) and you press on for it is not just about you, OTHERS are depending on you to hold up your commitment to the cause. I don't buy her story too much anymore. I like her in some roles, but others I wonder if it's because Barbara Stanwyck wasn't available. Babs, imho, has the real acting chops... Edited by: casablancalover on Jan 26, 2010 10:38 AM