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  1. >*I wasn't sure you were the same. Let's see, the last time we met...*

    Ingrid Bergman,

    h4. Hollywood's Masterpiece

    btw, Mad66, love that dialog. It is fascinating to see the changes to the screenplay, isn't it?

     

    Edited by: casablancalover on Nov 13, 2010 9:42 AM

  2. Inconsistencies that get me...

     

    My pet problem is one I've mentioned before: The Ghost and Mrs. Muir. It's a story of a woman (Mrs. Muir) romanced by a ghost. _Mrs. Muir is a widow_. So, why can't she be romanced by her dead husband? (Story done better: Truly-Madly-Deeply ) And if she's in love with a dead man, doesn't that seem a bit disloyal to her dead guy?

     

    In fantasy, they say anything is possible. But I do think this movie is giving me Purple water/Blue sky.

  3. FredCDobbs writes:

    >I visited Natchez many times as a kid, and although both sides of my family came from a long line of dirt farmers and sharecroppers, we looked to the big mansions of Natchez as being part of ?our heritage?, even though it never was. Those rich folks who owned the big homes and big plantations would have never let any of our people inside their homes in the old days. We were peasants, serfs.

    In light of the recent political environment, I am understanding more how this mindset happens. Thank you for the enlightenment.

     

    >I was very disappointed years later to learn that most of the big old Plantation houses had originally been owned by Yankees and foreigners, and not by Southerners at all (photos follow)

    I can see how you were disappointed, but I cannot say I was surprised. Thank you for sharing your perspective.

  4. Casablancalover responds-

    Gus, some people never suspend their disbelief and we are all the poorer for it.

     

    >*Hello, Miss Ilsa. I never expected to see you again.*

    Dooley Wilson, Casablanca (1942)

    h5. Hollywood's Masterpiece

     

    Edited by: casablancalover on Nov 7, 2010 11:42 AM, who clearly needs a proofreader.

  5. h4. Believe What You See, or See What You Believe?

    D.W. Griffith is venerated for his style and his ability to carry the narrative in the visual. We are commenting here about silent movies, which only has the visual to move the story. That is what is meant by showing the story; that will frustrate all writers whose narrative has always been to incorporate the thoughts behind the characters. It something that writers of books and novels can convey with ease and with screenwriting can be a struggle.

     

    That is why all the controversy. We see the story, and we make the leap ourselves as to how to interpret it. When you look at the scope of Griffith's work, I become less sure of his "message". Birth of a Nation does draw an exciting narrative and like all stories it has a context. But I am not so quick to judge it's merits by it's message. Our context of viewing it has changed. When watching Intolerance, I am left to see that Griffith is a lover of stories.

     

    You may see Birth of a Nation or Intolerance as opposites or as responses to one another. I see them as the work of one man showing us stories of people's lives. We can choose to embrace the concepts represented or not. Showing them or writing about them does not imply our embrace of the message behind them if there is one. In fact, it is my belief to suppress this discussion is a way to propagate the negative beliefs arising out of offensive material. It is like the destruction of materials we deem personally to be offensive and efforts to prevent people to judge for themselves.

     

    There is a clip of Stanley Kubrick talking about Griffith's work posted. It is thoughtful to me in many ways and it does not escape me that Kubrick may have been speaking about himself. He closes mentioning the Icarus myth. Very good.

     

    I am of the camp, Forget the wax and feathers - do a better job on the wings.

  6. >Petronius: *What if I said today you should go to the violent Roman sea?*

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    >Eunice: *I'd swoon with happiness! Only, you haven't said it, my lord...*

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    >Petronius: *Then, go ready yourself for Antium.* (He waits for her reaction) *You haven't yet swooned..*

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    >Eunice: *I have no time, my lord.* (racing out of the atrium) *I have no time! I have no time!*

    Leo Genn, Marina Berti Quo Vadis (1951)

  7. Received this in my email. Thought it very well done.

    (CBL removed the link)

     

    But, discovered certain shots that may be deemed inappropriate content. If you know me, ask for the link, I will be happy to send it.

     

    Edited by: casablancalover on Nov 4, 2010 8:24 PM

  8. >*. . . You know, I have a method all my own. If you notice, the coat came first, then the tie, then the shirt. Now, uh, according to Hoyle, after that, the, uh, pants should be next. There's where I'm different... I go for the shoes next. First the right, then the left. After that it's, uh, every man for himself.*

    Clark Gable, It Happened One Night (1934)

     

    Edited by: casablancalover on Nov 2, 2010 11:48 PM

  9. h4. Trick or treat, everybody:

    >*House is full of stories. If you know how to read these things, it's an open book. Just a different library than the kind you're used to.*

    -Liam Neeson

    >*I'm not staying in this freaking house another second, so come on.*

    -Owen Wilson

    Haunting of Hill House (1999)

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