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11 minutes ago, Dargo said:
WAIT! Are you tellin' me here Cid that ALL those thousands and thousands of witty posts of mine that I've contributed to these boards all these many years will ONE DAY be lost to posterity TOO???!!!
Say it ain't so, Joe...err, I mean CID!
(...yeah, actually, I know what you're sayin' here...I've been wonderin' when that day might come to pass too lately)
Heaven forbid! They should be preserved for posterity!
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I wonder why they never do this???
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1 hour ago, Dargo said:
The demographic of the people I transport down to and back from the Phoenix airport from here in the Sedona area with this little part-time shuttle driving gig that I've had in my retirement years for about 8 years now does tend to skew to the Boomer generation. I bring this point up because whenever I steer the conversations held inside the van I'm driving to the subject of Movies, I've noticed that the vast majority of my passengers say they seldom watch TCM and/or have only a limited interest in or knowledge of movies, and be those movies defined as "classic" or not.
During these conversations (and of which I always attempt to initiate because it makes the two hour drive each way seem a hell of a lot shorter in duration for me...oh, and of course also because I love the sound of my own voice...I DO have a rich, mellifluous and resonant voice, ya know
) whenever I mention my favorite films of all time and after asking what films might be my passengers' favorites, more times than not these passengers might only vaguely recall once watching the movies I've mentioned and which could not in any way be described as "esoteric". Nope, we're talking about movies such as Academy Award winning films like The Best Years of Our Lives, The Apartment, and Casablanca. However and once again though, my passengers are most likely to only recognize the titles of these films at best but have little knowledge of their actual content.
(...and so I guess with my point here being that the general public, and yes, even those old enough to have perhaps acquired a taste for classic films and who are not adverse to watching a movie that wasn't filmed in color, is still pretty much a relatively small demographic)
My mother who grew up during the "Golden Age" when they were making those movies wont watch them. Am sure she's seen a lot of them. She won't watch B&W films on tv. Not sure what her reasoning is for the colored ones. She'd rather watch junk network series (yet she complains there's nothing on tv).
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I've seen one film Moore was in with Haas on TCM, but I forget the title. I don't think it was on Noir Alley. (not counting that bit part in a film that WAS on Noir Alley, which I can't remember either).
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3 hours ago, Swithin said:
On Svengoolie tomorrow, September 4, 2021:
When I was a little kid, my friend's father took my friends and me to a Chinese restaurant on 170th Street in the Bronx, after which he took us to a bakery to get Charlotte Russes. Then he took us to a very enjoyable double bill at the Luxor Theater: The Amazing Colossal Man and The Attack of the Puppet People. But I don't think I knew there was this sequel to the former film.
OMG! LOL. I haven't seen this one! Looking forward to it.
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14 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
You really believe Hepburn and Tracy were just "pals"? That they never had a sexual relationship? I admit I'm getting my info from Wiki, and that can be a flawed source but according to them:
"In Hollywood, however, the intimate nature of the Tracy-Hepburn partnership was an open secret".
In addition Tracy had affairs with Young, Bergman and Crawford (that were confirmed by the 3).
My understanding of Hepburn was that she was bisexual.
As for Ben's comment: I don't think he was trying to provide any "context" but just being snarky as it relates to the myth MGM's PR department used to imply Tracy was a devout Catholic. While I find humor when I hear anyone say Tracy was a devout Catholic, I don't see why a TCM host needs to be snarky about that myth. I.e. my preference is that such comments are not made.
He was devout enough not to get a divorce, or his wife wouldn't give him one. That was a no-no with Catholics back then. You couldn't receive the sacraments.
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14 hours ago, speedracer5 said:
I am under 40 and there is a large population of others under 40 on social media (other than this message board) that are big fans of Classic film.
While I understand what is being said here, I don’t think it’s fair that those that are younger than the assumed demographic don’t deserve any sort of consideration. Not that older demographics shouldn’t be considered either, but TCM should be for everyone.
Agree but there aren't enough of them. I get why TCM is trying to attract them, but they won't with new graphics and couches.
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Another film poster that doesn't deliver!
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8 hours ago, Bethluvsfilms said:
Looks like an interesting one. I can't shake the feeling I might have seen it before though. Think I'll give it a watch.
Wow. Can barely recognize Ladd there......
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"Where Then Meets Now" seems to be one more desperate attempt to make a classic movie channel "relevant" to a younger generation. I wish TCM management would get it. While many of us loved "old" movies (as in movies which were made 30-40 years before we were born) when we were mere kids, the vast majority of folks under the age of 40 have absolutely no use for anything "old" and consider an "old movie" to be one which was made prior to 2015. Deal with reality, TCM and stop pandering to would-be viewers you will never get.
TOTALLY AGREE. But they keep trying! LOL. I guess they have to. We can't live forever.......
The Hope. If the rumor that they are moving all of the production from Atlanta to LA is true, that has the potential to be very good news for viewers. Perhaps if it is easier for current-day directors, producers, actors, authors, etc. to find their way to the TCM studios, they will appear on a more regular basis. I have a feeling that budget and time constraints (not to mention the inconvenience of getting on a plane and flying to Atlanta) kept a whole lot of people we would have loved to hear from away. For a long time the directors and stars of the 1980's - 1990's films have been underrepresented on TCM. If they are shooting everything in LA now, we may see a renaissance of interviewees and guest programmers.
Lets hope this is true.
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2 hours ago, speedracer5 said:
If TCM is able to increase revenue via increasing their audience and offering wine club, store, swag, etc. etc., this is where funding for leasing lesser seen or never seen titles can come from.
All of this complaining is much ado about nothing, imo.
I wouldnt count on that. Hasn't happened yet!
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Thanks. Hadn't thought of that. Still think it's stupid. Sigh.
I thought Pepe was a take off on Charles Boyer? (Pepe Le Moko)
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On 8/31/2021 at 11:25 PM, EricJ said:
No, it's mostly a generational thing, when you wanted to Change the World in college, but could only do it with little clubs, gatherings or protest to demand they tear down the campus statue or put in a black-history program, and nobody else on campus cared.
Now, you can use the Internet to market your ambitious Punish the 20th Century outrage as if it's an actual thing, and enough people will believe it's some actual issue. That's how Pepe LePew was banned from Warner, after one columnist made an article wondering "who would be next" after Disneyland changed Splash Mountain.
As for the Perils of Unannounced Blackface, I remember the scene from the 1980 Neil Diamond The Jazz Singer, where they tried to pay "tribute" to Al Jolson with a scene where Neil has to use blackface to sit in with his black friend's group, and when the audience at the club finds out, a race riot erupts. (And Laurence Olivier tells him "It wasn't hard enough being a Jew??")
Critics were less offended at Neil in shoe polish as they were at the stereotype that Black People would immediately riot at the very appearance of a non-black performer pretending to be one, and yet that's EXACTLY what the TCM powers-that-be are implying should they even dare to show Holiday Inn uncut. It's not "sensitivity", it's fear, and naive, condescending, goofy fear at that.
Why was Pepe banned? Offensive to French people? Skunks?
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9 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
no, she's playing someone new- get this, PROFESSOR STOKES's recently orphaned NIECE who is LIVING AT COLINWOOD for some reason I do not know and who likes to "innocently" visit the bedrooms of the menfolk a lot. she's also going to be possessed and...it's complicated. she's only been on 3 episodes but she's irritating as ****
She sounds like it. I don't remember her (probably why).
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12 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
also I'm miffed they let DENISE NICKERSON go (although she had that trip down the CHOCOLATE RIVER right ahead of her) and replaced her with this gutbucket JAN BRADY.
All apologies to you fans of HALLIE, but whatever.
She'll never make you happy the way AMY would have, DAVID....
Was Denise written out of the storyline? (No spoilers please!) Wonder why she left? Maybe she got a better offer.
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Dark Shadows slipped to the 2nd page! Glad you came through!
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21 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
Why are you holding back; You really wanted them to use that money on leasing Joan Bennett 20th Century Fox films.
HELL, YES!!!!! Among others. Sofas and graphics are more important.
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13 hours ago, speedracer5 said:
I don't mind the "refresh." It's colorful, it has a retro, yet modern vibe, I like it.
I believe all the abstract designs are supposed to be various C's that match the "4 key C's of the brand" curate, context, connection, culture.
A while back, when TCM changed the website to black and white, everyone complained about that. Now they add color and everyone's complaining about that. They change the font from one with serifs, to one without. They literally just changed their slogan (from the "let's movie" slogan that everyone complained about) and gave their marketing a new look as an attempt to give Classic Hollywood a modern, fresh look, yet everyone's complaining. TCM tries new things and continues to evolve to attract new audiences and people complain. However, if TCM were to keep their 1994 look and never change, people would complain that they've gotten stale and refuse to update.
The way that everyone on social media (Twitter and Facebook included) are carrying on, one would have thought that they had added commercials.
Frankly, I'm just sick of the constant complaining about things that are so innocuous like a channel's attempts to keep up with modern sensibilities even though at the core, they still have the same mission they had 27 years ago.
My complaint is the cost. All that money for a refresh could've gone to lease films that have never been shown on TCM (and there are many). They waste all this money on "looks" and not content.
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21 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT TIME THOUGH,
The real story of RAYMOND BURR'S military service and WAR INJURIES(!!??) alone could have been unearthed in a hot second by any reporter anywhere at any time and shut the entire series down fast, to say nothing of his homosexuality.
I feel like there's some sort of delicious ELLROYIAN 50'S SHOWBIZ TABLOIDY-TYPE TALE that could be created about this scenario.
Was TALMAN a sacrificial lamb tossed to the tabloids to divert attention?
And what of HEDDA HOPPER? Did she bury more than a few torrid scoops in order to guarantee a paycheck for HER BABY BOY? [Who hated her GUTS, but then again, WHO DIDN'T?)
Yes, I'd believe that.
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1 hour ago, Peebs said:
Yes, it sounds like they are trying to reassure longtime viewers while courting younger, new viewers.
From the email today:
"Today is a special day for us at TCM. A day where the beat of culture-forward and classic-inspired is evident in all we do and where classic films become a powerful thread tying the past to the present and future.
The new look and voice of TCM sharpens our heritage by celebrating classic films through our unique lens of context, curation, culture and connections.
We are dedicated to our mission of celebrating the importance, influence and preservation of classic movies. We will continue to do what we do best, but with an eye to connecting the dots between the past and the present as we transport our audiences to worlds, times and lives that are different and far from our own, but all in a familiar place that feels like home and where all are welcome."
WHAT A LOAD OF HORSESH-T!!! Wonder how much all this cost?????????
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He's on TWICE??? 5 of the 6 are films TCM shows almost monthly. No thanks. I might watch The Fugitive Kind as that doesn't pop up so much. Not really interested in why he chose them though. Guest Programmer concept is tired and like The Essentials should be retired......
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37 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
I skipped over all those episodes.
LOL. There were a lot though!
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4 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
I've noticed in later seasons that RAY COLLINS, who plays the inexplicably octagenarian POLICE LIEUTENANT has started to scale back his appearances.
And they replaced him with that ugly Wesley Lau. who Mason annoyingly called Det. Andy. His last name was Anderson! And those ugly hats he wore. Total UGH.
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There's also Josette's bedroom in the old house. Did they just use one bedroom for everyone and redress it? I know there were scenes in both Vicky and Joan's bedroom from time to time. Maybe Carolyn's too. They didnt look the same.
There's also the Blue Whale and Maggie's house. Wonder how they all fit in that small bldg?? Maybe they used the basement of the bldg too?
) whenever I mention my favorite films of all time and after asking what films might be my passengers' favorites, more times than not these passengers might only vaguely recall once watching the movies I've mentioned and which could not in any way be described as "esoteric". Nope, we're talking about movies such as Academy Award winning films like The Best Years of Our Lives, The Apartment, and Casablanca. However and once again though, my passengers are most likely to only recognize the titles of these films at best but have little knowledge of their actual content.
"...Time for a refresh?"
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If it's such a dreary chore, why are you even on this dreary message board???