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YES.

I'd forgotten about Dead of Winter.

He made her out to be a complete control freak (I read it) If things went well, she was ok. If anything went wrong, watch out! There's a Thanksgiving dinner scene in there where Marlo goes off the rails about something with all her family there that's pretty scary if true.

Tallulah.

This only came out AFTER Loretta died. It's revisionist history by her daughter-in-law.

There is no evidence that she even cried. This is a story perpetuated by her daughter in law AFTER Loretta died.

Very true.

Eddie was very inaccurate in his Loretta update at the end of the film. Loretta adopted the child BEFORE she married Tom Lewis. There was never any secrecy about that. He adopted her later on when they married. He acted like there was some sort of cover up. The only cover up was that Judy was Loretta's real daughter. And this date rape thing is ridiculous! That is a second hand story from Loretta's daughter in law that she says happened before Loretta died. There is nothing to confirm this or that it ever happened. A way to make Loretta an innocent unwed mother after the fact? Gable could have had any woman he wanted in his heyday. Like he'd resort to that? And if it was rape WHY would Loretta appear with him in Key to the City years later? Also Gable DID know that Judy was his daughter and even met her during the Key to the City filming at her house. Judy was not aware of this until after he died. Very sloppy journalism from Eddie and was disappointed in his careless presentation of all this.

She always seemed to be on the verge of stardom in her career, but never quite made it for some reason.

WOW. What a scary story.

Agree wholeheartedly!

I hadn't seen it in awhile and it doesn't hold up well. Comes off as an overlong episode of the (upcoming) Loretta Young show. Young does what she can with the hackneyed script. Everything is shot in bright sunlight. Not very noirish. Everyone she has to deal with is so annoying.

He should have been at LEAST nominated! Had the film done well, he probably would have.

Yes, fascinating. Goes back to Nostradamus or even earlier?

Not a big fan of it myself, though I liked certain scenes. But you could see they had talent. I've seen Night Moves a few times and its pretty good. I saw Cutter's Way many years ago and liked it, but have forgotten what it was about.

Oh, good! Plus David Manners too! Haven't seen this one in awhile.

Too late now! Glad I didnt put my real first name in there.

LOL! I'm definitely in the first group!

Thanks. Yes, I have some of both of those attributes, but not dominant in my personality.

Thanks for the info. I looked up Pisces in Venus and that fits me very much, but Sagg rising, not so much. But I can see a little of that in me. Interesting information. Thank you for explaining.

LOL! My chart is a mix of water and fire signs. (one or two air and earth). Doesn't sound like a good combination! (Fire and Water) I'm continually putting out fires?

Yes, I put the time, location everything. Not sure if Sagg is rising, but I think so. That's what it says at Ascendant.

Sometimes.

YES!

I think Ascendant is in Sagittarius. Is that the first sign under Placidus? Don't understand that whole table! Asc. node, I assume means Ascending node? Not much Pisces in my chart at all but Venus. Didn't realize we had our own astrologer on site!