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12 minutes ago, chaya bat woof woof said:
Liz also reteamed with Monty Clift (and she was supposedly very protective or her gay friends, especially during the time of AiDS) in Suddenly Last Summer. Her recounting of what happened to Sebastian is harrowing (and, though not graphic, gave me nightmares just imagining it). She held her own with Hepburn.
I wish TCM could get The Lucy Show episode where she put on that humongous ring Burton gave her. They were a perfect example of couples who love each other but our volatile when put together (both had addiction problems). Poor Liz made several bad choices, especially that motorcycle? dude, Larry Fortensky.
I never saw that Lucy episode. Would love to see it.
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10 minutes ago, chaya bat woof woof said:
Liz also reteamed with Monty Clift (and she was supposedly very protective or her gay friends, especially during the time of AiDS) in Suddenly Last Summer. Her recounting of what happened to Sebastian is harrowing (and, though not graphic, gave me nightmares just imagining it). She held her own with Hepburn.
I wish TCM could get The Lucy Show episode where she put on that humongous ring Burton gave her. They were a perfect example of couples who love each other but our volatile when put together (both had addiction problems). Poor Liz made several bad choices, especially that motorcycle? dude, Larry Fortensky.
One of her best performances imo. Clift and Liz were supposed to co-star in Reflections In A Golden Eye (and Liz put up her salary to insure him) but he died before filming began and Brando replaced him.
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2 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
I've been watching episodes of MAUDE on youtube and that show is hilarious!
I thought the show lost something when Florida left. Never liked her replacement. The political stuff got old after awhile.
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2 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
Not too long before she died, ELIZABETH TAYLOR completely disparaged her acting career (which, I guess was her right) saying she was only good in parts of VIRGINIA WOOLFE and that's it.
This made me a little mad, honestly, because she was a tremendous actress- yes, in many senses of the word- and even when she or the movie (or both) are TERRIBLE, you cannot help BUT WATCH. [see BOOM! NO REALLY, GO NOW AND WATCH IT]
She is magic in A PLACE IN THE SUN, quite frankly, the only damn thing in the entire film that I like- it's a very screwed-up film, one that I kinda think of as a 1950s, ALL-AMERICAN version of TRIUMPH OF THE WILL.
I wish I could see BOOM! again! (I think the ex. point was in the title. LOL) It's never on tv!
I wish TCM would schedule a Liz and Dick turkey night. They did so many in the 60s/70s. (together and alone). I hadn't heard this about Liz. Was this on a talk show? I know she never thought she was a great actress, but everything?
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26 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said:
Hibi, you are a harsh judge. 😏 Maybe Nick was a bit insensitive to what Cora wanted, but this hardly merits offing him. Plus, he naively (one might say stupidly) believed Cora loved him and wanted to be with him , so I guess he thought, where he goes, his wife goes.
The whole plan to murder Nick was based on Cora's refusal to accept being poor, she had no interest in trying to make a go of it with Frank the honest way. To me she's an unsympathetic and dislikable character. And not as much fun to watch as Phyllis Dietrichson was to make up for it !
Well, I don't find hubby sympathetic either!
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46 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said:
Actually, I'm going to come right out and say The Postman Always Rings Twice, iconic noir though it is supposed to be, leaves me cold. I don't like the two main characters, -- and I'm generally a Garfield fan -- and their story is not interesting to me. I don't know why, theoretically it checks all the boxes. I think it's partly because I feel sorry for Lana's husband, the poor guy just doesn't deserve to be offed like that. You'd think they would have taken it as a sign to leave him alone when the carefully calibrated plan to do him in doesn't work the first time....but no, if at first you don't succeed, try, try , again. I mean poor old Nick, he trusts Frank and likes him. Ok, maybe he's a bit dumb and naive, but since when were those qualities justification for murder?
It's a bit different with the slightly similar plot device in Double Indemnity ( ok, very different story but the trope of murdering the femme fatale's husband for cash is the same). This is because unlike poor NIck Smith the diner owner in Postman, Stanwyck's husband is quite nasty and ill-tempered and dislikable. So although he doesn't deserve the fate Babs and Fred dole out to him, you don't feel sorry for him the way you do for Nick. That's my take, anyway.
But even aside from the "poor guy doesn't deserve to be murdered" thing I have ( after all, if I were repelled by every noir that featured the murder of an innocent person I'd watch precious few noirs), The Postman Always Rings Twice is one of my least favourite noirs. It doesn't entertain me in the way most noirs do. I find it kind of dreary. I probably wouldn't be so negative about it if it weren't regarded as one of the top ten most classic noirs of all time blahblah. Not for me.
Lana's hubby wasn't so nice. He was going to uproot her and take him to his (sisters?) and make her work and take care of her in the Ozarks somewhere. I would've offed him for that!
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6 minutes ago, CinemaInternational said:
I think that much of the ill reaction came because many film critics had read the book, and the main audience interested in the film read the book. The film was softened somewhat from the book was was more cutthroat, and much of the film's casting did not match up with how Wolfe had pictured the characters: Brue Willis was likely closer to the book's main character than Tom Hanks was, the role Bruce did play was closer to someone like Denholm Elliott, and Kim Cattrell's character in the book was described as a rather dowdy individual, which is far from what Ms Cattrell is.....
Yes, I've read about that.
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7 hours ago, lavenderblue19 said:
I'm probably the only one here but I enjoyed Bonfires and if you listened to what Julie Salamon said in the outro, she liked Bonfires of the Vanities too. She said it was a fun film and I agree. The film has it's faults, Melanie, Kim Cattrall, F. Murray Abraham's performances were a little too over the top but the film held my attention and I think all the criticism it received was too harsh and not deserved.
I agree Moe, sadly, the film is very timely, but I found the film very watchable
I agree. I missed the beginning, but I liked it. I hadn't read the book, maybe I wouldn't have if I'd read it. Don't understand why it was a mega flop. Parts of it were over the top, but it was meant to be satire (at least I took it that way). I didnt think it was awful. But I could see the story not appealing to the masses. (a cast of unlikable Manhattanites etc.)
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18 minutes ago, ElCid said:
Some movies are quite entertaining if you do that. 😀
True! LOL.
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8 minutes ago, ElCid said:
One thing that just occurred to me is that the boy never was really kidnapped. He was missing in the sense that his uncle left him with a woman who ran a boarding house. From the final scene, she appeared to be a decent woman living in a relatively nice neighborhood. Why didn't she inform someone when the uncle never came back? I guess she was just waiting for the uncle to show up again?
I know. Were so many holes and hard to swallow points in the plot. I gave up trying to understand it about halfway into the film.
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On 7/4/2021 at 6:54 PM, laffite said:
I think it WAS bad. A bland and cliched screenplay. Zachary Scott tries really hard but it falls flat. It may not be his fault. I have seen (as we all have) good actors act badly and it is often the result of trickle-down ineptitude (e.g., badly directed or something) though I'm not sure who to blame here. Zachary proves himself elsewhere and this performance can be safely ignored. Mary Boland comes near to some really fine moments but it doesn't last. I had trouble getting through it but as often happens with me, movies can rehabilitate themselves with me through a sort of retroactive osmosis, a residual positive rehashing that gives way to an overall general feeling of "not so bad." (Although I wouldn't over emphasize that in this case).
I AGREE. Completely idiotic, unbelievable plot! Had a few good scenes and camera work/lighting, but it didnt help. This film should've STAYED LOST! I did like the Kay Medford segment, but wasnt enough of her. I'd never seen her in anything else but Funny Girl and Butterfield 8.
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Yeah, boy next door types didnt seem to transition well as they got older into mature roles.. Agreed. Some stars did work if they were willing to take small parts or work in Bs. Others who invested well and didnt need to work retired or married well. Others, like Haines, started careers in other fields.
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There were a lot of silent actors that got dropped or quit when sound came in. It's hard to say how long Haines would've lasted. A lot of stars did manage to make the leap to sound films, but many of those were gone, too, by the mid-30s or their careers were in eclipse for one reason or another. Novarro; Swanson: Gish etc.
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Well, L. B. was hated by a lot of people. Gay or Straight.
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Yes, I've no doubt it was his decision to walk. I was questioning whether he actually SAID those words to L.B.......
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46 minutes ago, UMO1982 said:
So he did....
Is there a recording of it or witnesses besides the two?
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22 minutes ago, DougieB said:
Not many who told Louis B. Mayer to go f*** himself.
So he said......
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11 hours ago, Feego said:
I Tivo'd The Celluloid Closet and only glanced at certain parts of it, but I also noticed that they seemed to identify neither the clips nor the talking heads. I remember watching it years ago on Bravo (back before it was a haven of trashy reality shows!), and I could have sworn the version shown there identified the clips because I specifically remember it being the first time I heard of movies like Our Betters and Wonder Bar, who's titles were not mentioned at all until the closing credits in the print TCM ran.
That's strange. Maybe that's where I saw it (Bravo). I know I'd seen it on tv before. I don't really remember about the titles though.
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15 hours ago, DougieB said:
Because he went from being a major star for MGM to being unemployable because he wouldn't give up his partner and their "lifestyle." The Wisecracker documentary (based on William Mann's book) was done by HBO. He had the last laugh because his interior design services were later sought out by some of the wives of the executives who turned their backs on him.
Yes, I know all that. But just because he was a gay actor, I don't think it means they have to include him. There were many!
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15 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
No, I imagine that to be a fairly leisurely apocalypse.
I’ve met cows, nothing about them is fast.
They were pretty fast when they escaped from that truck last week!
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53 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
COMEDY CENTRAL was a BEAUTIFUL THING IN THE MID 1990S. It was just reruns of MONTY PYTHONS FLYING CIRCUS, THE KIDS IN THE HALL, MST 3K and ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS.
I HAAAAAAATED the BUDDY COLE skits, but when I started watching the show again a few years back, I realized how HILARIOUS those monologues were and are.
Yes, I remember. I used to watch Kids in the Hall.
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OK. Somewhat better!