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14 hours ago, cigarjoe said:
This go round I noticed near the very end the possible next "Merry Widow" giving Uncle Charley the eye on the train, lol
She had her eye on him from their first meeting!
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20 hours ago, misswonderly3 said:
I love Shadow of a Doubt, it's one of my favourite Hitchcock films. I've seen it many times, and each time I get something out of it.
For one thing, all the players are perfect in their roles. Nobody could have played Charlie, the innocent but very smart young girl who's the lead character, as well as Teresa Wright does. She really nails the dawning realization that her beloved uncle is not at all what she'd always adoringly thought he was -- it's a key moment in the film when she reads the article in the paper and discovers the truth about him. Wright really captures all the complex emotions Charlie would be feeling: denial (at first), shock, sadness, disillusionment, horror, disgust, and finally, fear.
But all the actors are good in this. I really enjoy the ongoing "how to commit murder" conversations between Henry Travers and Hume Cronyn- they're both so funny !
Two bit players who never get mentioned, but who in their own way really add to the flavour of the film, are Charlie's friend Catherine - Estelle Jewell, never saw her in anything else, but she's hilarious as the plain Jane friend who seems ready to flirt with anyone male in sight, even Wallace Ford ! She's always smiling demurely and looking at the ground.
Also, another peer of Charlie's, the pretty but weary young waitress at the bar Charlie and her uncle slip into. I think her character's name was Louise, she was played by someone called Janet Shaw (?) I love it that even though she's from the same graduating high school class as Charlie, her path has taken a very different turn. She can't get a "respectable" job, so she's waitressing at the local dive. The way she speaks when she explains why she's working there to Charlie, and when she looks at the ring- there's a world of sadness and resignation and weariness in her voice, even though she can't be any older than 19 or so. She only has about 5 minutes, but they're memorable.
One thing that really struck me this time round: Charlie knows her uncle is dangerous, that he's a killer. And yet she clearly does not hide what she knows about him. She cannot pretend that she feels the same way about him. Especially after his two attempts on her life (the broken stair and the carbon monoxide filled garage), you have to wonder why she doesn't try to hide her fear and loathing of him. She makes him suspect she's going to turn him in -- and she would, if not for her concern for her mother. When she finds the incriminating ring back in Uncle Charlie's drawer, instead of keeping it to show her detective boyfriend, she walks down the stairs and clearly reveals it to her uncle. Why wouldn't she by this time have been fearful that any further indication from her that she is a threat to his escape will endanger her? Of course, it makes for very dramatic cinema, I guess that's why.
It's interesting that Uncle Charlie's dark deeds all occur off-camera, before the story begins. This way it's easier to understand why the innocent Newton family trust and like him so much. Well, not all of them. Just as dogs always seem to know a bad 'un one they see one, the two kids, especially the precocious little girl, Ann, know there's something wrong with him.
Anyway, I understand why Eddie includes this as a noir. It's the idea of evil lurking in the midst of goodness, that things are not what they seem. It's the idea of being trapped. Not Uncle Charlie, it's young Charlie who's trapped. She knows her uncle's terrible secret, but feels she can't do anything about it.
One could make an argument that almost all Hitchcock's work in one way or another is noir (except for Mr. and Mrs. Smith ), because there's darkness of one kind or another in so many of them. But Hitch 's movies are in a category of their own, so I suppose if you had to say one of them was a film noir, Shadow of a Doubt would fit the bill.
Yes, Janet Shaw. So good in that brief scene. I've seen her in a couple Bs but nothing else. I think one was a Saint or Falcon movie.
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On 6/26/2021 at 6:49 PM, Stoopnagle said:
I had the opposite experience. Growing up, I remember Julie starring in the TV show "Emergency!" and I didn't know about her musical career until much later. Here she is with husband and "Emergency!" co-star Bobby Troup, who I also found out later had a musical career and produced her big hit "Cry Me A River".
Head nurse DIXIE MCCALL!!
She had about 10 lines per episode.......
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LOL.
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25 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:
I'm going to try to go through and find all the "out of library" films for the month, though I will probably move very slowly and may not finish.
Day One is Bette Davis. Looks like they're showing a whopping 11 Warner Bros. movies, 10 from her days as a contract player in the '30s and '40s and of course Baby Jane, her reunion pic with the studio from '62. The only non-library film I could find is The Star from Fox in 1953. Sorry to say no All about Eve.
That's too bad about Eve.
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Just as bad. Great way to start the day!
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6 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
you really should, although IT WILL DEFINITELY MAKE YOU NERVOUS AROUND YOUR OWN NEIGHBORS!!!! (If you are not already on bad terms with them!)
I dunno what kind of cable system you got, but it's on THE INVESTIGATION DISCOVERY CHANNEL, which I get through HULU and- at the moment- ALL SEVEN SEASONS ARE AVAILABLE!
Dateline ID its called. I watch it about as much as TCM!
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9 minutes ago, Roy Cronin said:
Oh jeesh. I've never watched this show and now I feel I absolutely must to keep up with the cool kids!
YES!
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8 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
did you miss the FEAR THY NEIGHBOR this season that was SET IN HAWAII, yet was OBVIOUSLY FILMED in WHAT LOOKED LIKE NEBRASKA doubling for MAUI!?
They went to the HOME DEPOT and picked up three potted palms and were like "done."
Yeah, the one with the Neighborhood NAZI???
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12 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
this is going to sound awful, but I "appreciate" how- more often than not- there is some EXTRA TRAGIC UNFORESEEN CONSEQUENCE at the end of FEAR THY NEIGHBOR- like someone "accidentally" kills someone else or there is collateral damage or an innocent victim/bystander who had nothing to do with all the petty fighting and such [in one episode, the dude killed two police who showed up when he snapped.]
it's a good example of how BOTTLED RAGE and VIOLENCE can RESULT IN MAJOR UNFORESEEN TRAGEDY- like a snowball from HELL or something.
and again, it's a good reminder that -HARD AS IT MAY BE- in life, sometimes you just need to let that sh!t go...because the alternative can be WORSE.
The old guy tried to sell his place but he was stuck there (details about that were murky). Hard to let it go when someone is harassing you (though he started it) The dog thing was reprehensible.
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Also you wonder just how accurate the story is portrayed. Vautrin looked up some incidents and there were differences in details as to what happened.
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2 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
Pretty good FEAR THY NEIGHBOR last night!
EDIT AND SPOILER
It’s a little odd though how they go out of their way to paint one of the feuding neighbors As an impulsive, unbalanced, alcoholic, dog murdering maniac and then when he is the one at the end to get shot all the sudden they do a total 180 and start acting like he was some kind of a saint. But hey, it’s FEAR THY NEIGHBOR, And that’s one of the reasons why I love it so.
Yeah, that was really weird, how they pivoted....
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2 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
Pretty good FEAR THY NEIGHBOR last night!
EDIT AND SPOILER
It’s a little odd though how they go out of their way to paint one of the feuding neighbors As an impulsive, unbalanced, alcoholic, dog murdering maniac and then when he is the one at the end to get shot all the sudden they do a total 180 and start acting like he was some kind of a saint. But hey, it’s FEAR THY NEIGHBOR, And that’s one of the reasons why I love it so.
I thought it was a run of the mill episode. Same routine as so many others. Show is getting tired. I guess there isn't much leeway in the type of incidents they can portray. I felt sorry for the old guy, but can't justify murder. Police, as usual, did nothing.
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7 hours ago, slaytonf said:
Whew!
I'm sure its on at 4 in the morning.....(Autumn Sonata}
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Yes, I just read it online! (Not that I didn't believe you!)
I also found this, that I just read. WIsh they still did the Honorarys on the Oscar show itself. I miss that.
https://variety.com/2021/film/artists/liv-ullmann-life-lessons-1234917451/?sub_action=logged_in
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18 minutes ago, CinemaInternational said:
Liv Ullman is now scheduled to win an Honorary Oscar so this seems like perfect timing....
ARE YOU KIDDING?????? FINALLY???????? I've been praying for this for years!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sooooo Happy!!!!! Never thought I'd see it happen!
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47 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said:
I didn't think it was all that cold. Judging by what we see from the letter , he does try to "let her down gently". There's no use his pretending to love her and still want to marry her if he's met someone else. There's no way such a letter is ever going to feel good to the person who's being dumped, no matter how it's worded. The guy did the best he could.
I feel a bit silly defending this person, who never appears in the movie except as a photo lovingly displayed on Norah's table. In a way, he's a "Mcguffin", in that his rejection of Norah sets up the situation in which she is heart-broken, which makes her reckless, which is why she accepts Raymond Burr's dinner date ( not informing him that she is Anne Sothern's room-mate.) On goes the black taffeta dress and suede shoes, and out goes Norah, not caring if she gets drunk or that she's dating a man she's never met.
However, just to get back to her ex-fiance (again, I can't even remember his name, I have no particular interest in him, really): it's a sad fact of life that sometimes people think they want to marry someone but then meet someone else whom they realize they are in love with, which means they are no longer in love (if they ever were) with the first person. In this case, it's just better to inform the one they're rejecting as quickly and kindly as possible. No sense in staying with them when they'd rather be with someone else. This does not make the one doing the rejecting a bad or cold person, it's just the way things are sometimes.
Of course, getting back to The Blue Gardenia, the guy's rejection of Norah just makes an ideal set-up for Norah to decide to go out on a blind date- sh'es probably despondently thinking, why not? I might as well...
Sorry, the matter of fact way he writes the letter made me think he was a clod. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Weirdly the opposite was true irl, I would think. Girls dumping their boyfriends on the front and moving on with their lives......
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3 hours ago, Moe Howard said:
Seems like she would have a pretty good idea about Burr. It's indicated that he's a frequent lurker in the switchboard room and has had at least one of the girls in his studio posing. And girls talk.
It's made clear she decides to meet him to get even with her boyfriend. She initially turns him down.....
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On 6/23/2021 at 9:31 AM, LornaHansonForbes said:
if you would ever like to feel better about any bad choices you may have made in your life, feel free to google "Randy Quaid today" or go to his wikipedia page. it is SOBERING.
Seriously, even COUSIN EDDIE would be like "Son, what is goin on with you?????"
they omit mentioning his and his wife's sex tape at least....
LOL. The part about his run ins with the law is about as long as the career part!
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On 6/23/2021 at 10:57 AM, kingrat said:
The more of these posts I read, the choice to avoid SNL seems like one of the best decisions I've ever made.
Aren't missing a thing!
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No, he just sent her a very cold letter saying he's dumping her!
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2 hours ago, Giggles Widlansky said:
Count on it.
We'll see.


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