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I hope this includes the original uncut and uncensored Mata Hari with Garbo Also, when are we going to get real pre-codes, not B movies in the box sets!
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Forbidden Hollywood Collection Vol. 3 (on DVD and on TCM)
johnbabe replied to route66's topic in General Discussions
True, WB had grittiness, but Mata Hari was censored when it was re-release in 1936 because of several scenes that were very (how shall i put it) very suggestive and in some ways down right risque! Garbo is at her best for seduction, etc., and there is one scene that was very objectionable for reasons that we will leave to be seen later, we hope! -
she was just another overly dramatic soap opera actress!
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please add Ninotchka to this list of his films, and a great one at that!
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Forbidden Hollywood Collection Vol. 3 (on DVD and on TCM)
johnbabe replied to route66's topic in General Discussions
come on, these are just basically B movies..............when are we going to the a real pre-code A movie that caused a sensation when it was originally released in 1932---Mata Hari, before it was cut and butchered by the Hays Code in 1936 upon its re-release, come on TCM now that is a real honest to goodness pre-code that we at TCM deserve to have in your so "forbidden hollywood" series, it really was forbidden! -
i would be Garbo in Mata Hari
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yes, her acting ability was quite limited, but do you know, she took the Oscar in 1937 over Garbo's Camille.....what wrong doing, the Academy tried to make it up to Garbo with an honorary oscar in 1955 which she never officially accepted! Camille is considered by many to be the greatest performance ever put on the screen, Garbo should have won that not Luise!
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How many times can we see Casablanca? Little Women, that is a lousy dated movie, and it was on yet again, tonight! Why are they putting films like Grand Hotel and Ninotchka on at such outrageous hours of the day or night? Play some more Garbo and older films, some not quite so common this is TCM and stop playing those newer films and the guest programmer is really duh, dumb!
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I agree MGM ruined Garbo's career, they made her do ridiculous lines in her early talkies, and then they finally did it, Mayer made her do Two Faced Woman, the pic was good for anyone else, but reduced her to a miscast comic figure, and the bathing suit scene, why did she do that? She was right in leaving Hollywood - but we feel cheated she had so much more to give, and MGM got her so depressed, she did not want to give anymore!
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PS: they were supposedly married, Garbo and Stiller, in Constantinople...or so it goes, poor Gilbert, however, I feel that she really did love him she always seemed to lose the loves of her life, in some way!
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It has been said that Garbo did marry Stiller in Constantinople at the age of 17 or so, under her real last name (before it was legally changed to Garbo) of Gustaffason, they did not marry in Sweden, it is rumored, because they would have been married in the Lutheran Church of Sweden, and bans would have to be announced, and Stiller being of the Jewish faith, perhaps this would have been some sort of problem, there has been a rumor that Garbo wrote to a very close girl friend of hers, Mimi, that she was going to marry Stiller, did not really want to, and there the letter ends,//// that would explain why she did not (or could not) marry Gilbert, she was already married! She could have easily married Gilbert and became an automatic American citizen (since then it has been changed, you cannot become a US citizen by simply marrying one) but in 1926 you could, Gilbert told her Mayer could not threathen to deport her, as he frequently did( if she married him, they claim that Stiller told her to keep their marriage a secret so as to not to hurt her career, it seems very plausible, she went back to Sweden when Stiller died, visited his grave, and inherited, I have read, most of his estate whatever he had left, he was broken hearted over Gilbert and Garbo, and when home, alone, after reportedly begging her to come back with him, She stayed in California, and so it goes........I wonder if she ever told Gilbert any of this how many out there have heard this and believe it to be true?
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does anyone out there know if it will be released in the US any time soon?
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I saw the film shown last week with Gilbert, I think he is wonderful, those eyes, no wonder he swept a very young Garbo off her feet! His voice was not that it was too high, it was too sophisticated for his image, in contrast, Garbo's voice only enhanced her image, that was the problem, they MGM, should have tried to make Gilbert's voice more down to earth, more earthy, not to prim and proper, as we know, he was not so prim and proper....that I think contributed to his downfall, what a shame, I truly like him and would welcome more of his films on TCM He was OK in Queen Christina, but his acting seems to be a throw back to Silents - the contrast between him and Garbo's acting is very noticeable, did not anyone see it when it was finished?
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all of her fans and others, check out GretaGarbo.com it is up and running and seems to be going to develop into a great site!
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thanks, for posting the new website and on the site, have you seen the certificate given to GG from the Guiness Book of Records naming her the most beautiful woman who ever lived....it is really true!
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hello, there is now a new website: GretaGarbo.com and they actually have on their website, official by the way and sanctioned by GG's family, a photo of the actual certificate from the Guiness Book of Records given to GG naming her the most beautiful woman who ever lived! It most certainly is a fact of reality! duh!
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Yes, it is a wonderful film, especially if you are a native New Yorker as I am and as Garbo became, it just has a great feeling about NYC at that time, when Garbo walked the lucky streets, and it is just a nice good feeling film, it is still not on DVD! Ann Banckroft was a Garbo fan, I believe and she was also a Virgo like Garbo and me! I just love the film, there are so many references to the real Garbo, in especially the girlfriend Gilbert gets involved with, anyhow, just enjoy the film if you have it! I heard that it was based on a true story!
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Do add Ninotchka to your list of great films by Ernst!
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DO NOT AIR MOVIES THAT WERE MADE FROM 1974 to PRESENT!!!!!
johnbabe replied to RKO's topic in General Discussions
I totally agree, classic movies in my mind are films generally made before 1960 or so. The great stars are in those films, great stories, wonderful themes, beautiful love stories, great westerns, great comedies, when you have Garbo, Gable, Davis, Crawford, Wayne, Hepburn, Bogey and Tracy, to name but a few, who needs anything more! -
you do not know this, duh, that she was named the most beautiful woman who ever lived by the Guiness Book of Records,..........................nobody else has that title, it was given to her in 1955 at the age of 50.............................she also had a symetrically perfect face, it was even measured by the make up people of MGM top that, dud!
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Vote for the MOST beautiful actress!
johnbabe replied to ILoveRayMilland's topic in General Discussions
my dear, they did indeed measure her face it is pictured with the measurements in several books on Ms. G......it is a well know fact, duh, that her features were perfect, and her facial bone structure was what made it so, not to m ention her eyes.............................she is in Guiness Book of Records for her face, nicknamed also The Face, The Face of the Century, the Ice Princess, et. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////sharpen up your knowledge of beauty, my friend! -
We can only pray for that to happen, there are so many films for a second volume of GG's films, one of which is Susan Lenox which is named as very risque' pre-code with Clark Gable!
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Garbo was the best of all, her beauty, her acting (she is the only actress to ever be nomined for an Oscar twice in one year, For Anna Christie and Romance both in 1930 she is in Guiness Book of Records as most beautiful woman who ever lived Please watch Anna Karenina and Camille to see someone suffer on screen! Give me a break!
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sorry, i meant Kansas City, go to Garbo4Ever website and you get all the information on this showing and ever other movie, etc, when they are shown on Garbo, the just showed Flesh and Devil in NJ and Camille will be showing in CA soon!
