mrroberts
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I agree, the first thing any movie has to be is entertaining. The movies were made to entertain the audience, which was (is?) huge. Apparently they did something right. In a few instances Elvis showed he really could be a credible actor, if only he had had more opportunties to do so.
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I don't see why Grant should have felt wronged by Ingrid, after all she does agree to put herself in a very unusual and dangerous situation by marrying the bad guy. Think of what marrying the bad guy means (what a 40's film can't show or even talk about), and she's doing this with someone who she doesn't love at all. Maybe Grant just gets jealous , he doesn't seem to trust her true intentions. And Ingrid's motivation in all of this seems to be acting patriotic and helping Grant in his mission. Grant is ready to write her off and move on, only at the last minute does he finally go to check on her , find out she's in danger, and save her.
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I was also thinking about Cary Grant as playing the "cad" in both *Suspicion* and *Notorious*. I don't believe Hitchcock wanted that ending in *Suspicion*. He would have had Grant do the evil deed, but nobody else (including Cary) wanted to see the "Cary Grant image" get soiled. Having Cary be a "cad" was bad enough. So we got the cop out ending. And in *Notorious* Grant is definitely a cad, the way he treats Ingrid Bergman. While the "bad guy" Claude Rains really loves her, you almost have to feel sorry for him when he finds out Ingrid is just there to spy on him. Only at the end of the story does Cary Grant come around and finally act noble, just like the end of *Suspicion*.
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Ilsa must have heard about Rick's winning lottery ticket.
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Henry Fonda -- *The Ox-Bow Incident* , *12 Angry Men* , *Fail-Safe* .
Edited by: mrroberts on Aug 30, 2011 3:57 PM
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Actually *Dial M For Murder* is full of cads , Robert Cummings could be considered a cad (stealing another man's wife) and Anthony Dawson (Swann , the guy who tries to kill Grace) was undoubtably a cad with all of his activities.
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Ray Milland, as in *Dial M For Murder*.
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Ireland, Jill
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Don Rickles ( run silent, run deep movie was 1958)
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Just had to do a little back checking. It was in December 2009 that TCM aired *Sherlock Holmes* with John Barrymore and William Powell (his first film). That was part of a great Sherlock Holmes tribute (including all of the great Rathbone/Bruce films) that was over the Christmas holiday. And then on New Years Eve 2009, TCM aired all 6 of The Thin Man movies. So December appears to be a William Powell month on TCM. And my birthday is in December, so thanks again TCM.
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Love the 3 --- Gene, Jean, Jeanne. Might have caused some confusion at the studio at times.
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pturman, I assume you are referring to the original poster. I think AB is doing a very decent job, and while I have my own political views I try hard to not bring that stuff into these forums, I just don't think this is the place for that stuff. I do agree with you, a lot of people have problems with Baldwin and Ben M. because of their political views. I say just judge them by what they do on their jobs at TCM. Both of these guys know a lot more about these films and the people than I do. I still may not always agree with their opinions though.
Edited by: mrroberts on Aug 28, 2011 12:34 PM
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Its got to be tough for those who don't get Fox Movie Channel to view. So many fine stars who did a lot of movies for 20th Century Fox (like Linda Darnell, Tyrone Power, Richard Widmark, etc). Hopefully TCM will be able to keep accessing more of these films that are held by various ownership. We as movie fans don't have any special allegiance to any studios or who owns the rights to what. But apparently some "owners" are very guarded about their holdings or want some outrageous fees to show their films. And many of us don't have ready access to all of the different channels out there. So we have to be patient or suffer.
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Just as I thought, a *cad* and a *scoundrel*. George would like you two guys
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Van Johnson was in *The Caine Mutiny* with Fred MacMurray
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I'm sure TCM will show *Sherlock Holmes* again (WP's first film). I hope a few other silents will be in the mix. I have some rather crude tapings of the Philo Vance films, I hope TCM can secure some decent copies of those. Maybe, just maybe, *Mister Roberts* will be promoted to the Essentials status this year.
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Burt Lancaster didn't do well in comedies, I have to believe the roles were never well written for him. *The Hallelujah Trail*, now there's a picture I should really love. Its got Burt and Lee (how I adore her) Remick, how can it miss? Somehow it just doesn't click for me, although I can just watch and look at the stars (a group of still photos could do as well). I do enjoy watching *Tough Guys* with Burt and Kirk spoofing their "tough guy" images and its a "buddy" film , kind of like "O K Corral".
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That reminds me of the long running joke on The Tonight Show (Mr Carson's era) about the couple hundred bucks the guests got paid. If anything they should have paid a fee to get on. Maybe Alec pays TCM to get on the Essentials
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Robert Mitchum was in *El Dorado* with Arthur Hunnicutt
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I hope no one reads my "Irene" remark ( Carole Lombard's Irene character and the coming Irene hurricane) as an indifference as to the seriousness of this storm. I sincerely hope that everyone has made the necessary preparations to deal with this. I live far enough inland so the biggest worries for my area are some heavy rains and wind for a brief period. But the coastal areas are almost certain to get hit real hard. Hopefully most people are getting out of there or getting to some secure shelter places. By Tuesday we will know where we all stand, my best to all.
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Alec Baldwin often points out historical facts ( like who wrote a screen play and other film credits the guy has). Does he really know all of these things, or are they part of the script? You can say that for Robert Osborne, or anyone else for that matter. How does anyone really explain an opinion? I like a certain movie, or actor. Just my opinion, it appeals to me. Maybe it doesn't to you, your call. I believe Alec was talking about Vera Miles in "Liberty Valance" and he "contrasted" her style and appearance to Julia Roberts. Comparing doesn't always mean saying they're the same. I think Alec does a very decent job on these intros, I don't have a long list of alternatives to compare him to though. Some people seem to think these hosts are getting paid "big" money for their work. I don't believe so. Probably expenses paid and a small compensation at best. Maybe they even "volunteer" some of their time, they just happen to like classic movies and discussing them. There may not be a long list of potential hosts out there to pick from. I would like to see some more rotating of hosts, if thats possible. Thats not as a slam at RO, Alec, Ben. Just for the variety of styles and insights.
Edited by: mrroberts on Aug 25, 2011 12:42 PM
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Giving this some more thought. I think part of the charisma factor is the actor/actress who can demand attention just by being there. I find this hard to explain, being handsome/beautiful isn't always necessary. Like finance suggested, James Cagney just has presence, he can just stand there doing nothing, but still commands attention. I like William Powell, Henry Fonda, Jimmy Stewart, etc. but even those guys (talented as they are) have to be saying or doing something. Same with the gals, a lot of very beautiful women to watch, but they just can't stand there doing nothing (although a few still draw my attention). Barbara Stanwyck is not the classic beauty, but she has that charisma. Many would say Bette Davis, but she never rates that high for me personally. So we get back to the personal objectivity thing, right? --- As I am typing this I believe this has been discussed on a previous thread. But we still can't reference our previous post archives, I really miss that feature. Will we ever get it back?
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I think Burt had a tendency to "overact" at times. But when I watch him I think he picks his spots rather well. Elmer Gantry was a character that required being big and overbearing, and who could have played the part better than Burt Lancaster? And in that film he has some very restrained, thoughtful moments too, his relationships with the two women show that. Lancaster was a very good actor, he willingly took on some challenging roles and always played them well. I tend to favor Burt the action hero, the swashbuckler films, Gunfight at The O K Corral, The Train (probably my favorite Burt movie). And he comes close to equaling Robert Mitchum as the ultimate film noir fall guy. I only wish I could always see Burt Lancaster on the big screen, his presence demands big screen viewing.
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Just reposting this thread to keep it front and center. Come on programming, give us a Joel McCrea month in 2012.
*A to Z of actresses and actors*:)
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*Remick, Lee*