mrroberts
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Finance, I suggest you buy about 5 dozen Egg McMuffins, they have a lot of preservatives and should keep.
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I wanna see *North By Northwest* ! Wait, I think its coming on soon.
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I should certainly add to the last comment of mine that Americans weren't the only ones willing to make those "ultimate sacrifice" decisions.
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Sepiatone, its also worth noting that those Japanese kamikaze pilots were actually given a funeral type ceremony before they took off on their one and only mission. Regardless as to how dangerous a mission an American went out on, there was always some hope of returning. It was an individual decision relating to how hopeless the situation was whether the American made the ultimate sacrifice.
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I suspect Mr. Fred C Dobbs of this message board may have slipped TomJH a gold piece to give this film such a big build up. Doesn't matter, it still is a great film and deserves the praise. This is, in my opinion, the best film Bogart was ever in, but my favorite Bogart film role is still Roy Earle in *High Sierra* . Of course in that film, Bogart is the central character, he doesn't share the spotlight like he does in "Treasure".
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Still, the aerial special effects in this movie were a big step up from Ed Wood stuff.
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Cagney and Bogart worked together on several films, Cagney always being the star with Bogart the supporting player. I think they worked well together but there was some tension between them. Two guys the same age, both from New York City, but one came from wealth, the other relative poverty. Think of the Bogart movie *Dead End* with the rich kid and the poor street kids. I think Cagney had an unavoidable resentment toward the snobby upper class guys, he probably had many encounters with them in his young life. Bogart on the other hand was always uneasy about being of wealth and privilege, he was supposed to follow in his father's footsteps as a doctor but he quit school and joined the Merchant Marine. Then got into the world of stage acting, not exactly a place for high society types (unless you're very successful). So two guys, coming from different worlds, each trying to get to a different place. I don't think either could identify well with the other, so they certainly never became pals. Interestingly, Edward G Robinson got along very well with both Cagney and Bogart. I wonder if in the later years all three couldn't have done some kind of movie together, that would have been terrific.
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Any cop who would be observing all of the weaving back and forth of this thread would be pulling everyone over by now.
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Doesn't the size of a person's (male or female) bank account alter the results of this theory?
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Steve Martin should have gotten an Oscar for his brilliant impersonation of Barbara "Double Indemnity" Stanwyck in the movie *Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid*
Edited by: mrroberts on Sep 7, 2013 11:22 AM
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Huston had to be very persuasive getting Bogart to go on another location shoot though.
Edited by: mrroberts on Sep 6, 2013 10:06 PM
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I believe Edward G could have played ALL 3 roles, ala Peter Sellers, Jerry Lewis, or Alec Guinness
Bogie and Huston (John) must have worked things out ok, just a few years later they would take a little trip to Africa to do another picture. -
Fred, you should read the Wiki item on *Rope* . I don't think Hitch was concerned about cost when making the film. He just wanted the movie in real time and the action to flow. Technology of the time meant a maximum of around 10 minutes to a reel of film. I'll bet the actors were glad he couldn't shoot say 20 minutes. To disguise the piecing together of the scenes Hitch used the momentary scene of an actor's back passing in front of the camera so all we see is the back of the guy's suit. Rather bizarre, but effective, I guess.
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We should have thrown that other "malignant growth" overboard , Captain.
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I think Norman Bates used the same cheap wig that Barbara Stanwyck used in *Double Indemnity*
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All of this discussion about suicide, I suggest consulting Barton Keyes (Edward G Robinson) the insurance claims investigator from "Double Indemnity" , he knows all about these matters. As for this film , I wouldn't consider his action suicide. He clearly acts to take out the enemy plane before anymore of his fellow fliers get shot down. Crashing the enemy is his only option, although his chances are slim, he could have survived the crash. As for Cagney dying in a movie, to me the most memorable is the ending of *Public Enemy* .
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This is such a great thread, just don't want to see it get buried. Carry on.
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The best thing about TCM is not that they "only show what interests ME", but that they show a variety of "classic" films many of which we would never see anywhere else. So when they show a movie that doesn't appeal to me, I find something else to do, or watch like a rerun of "Adam-12".
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Sepiatone, check out Hitchcock cameos list on Wiki.
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In Thailand its on at 1:30 AM. I'll bet they're ****
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"Some ask why, others ask why not?"
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One thing about *Rope* that I don't think was mentioned here yet; Hitchcock's use of the long uninterrupted takes meant the actors and everyone on the set had to be on the money, no mistakes or the whole shot is no good. The actors had to know the lines and how exactly to move, so everyone appears a little "stiff" in their manner. Its said they did one whole take (close to 10 minutes I think) and Hitchcock discovered that the background lighting was off so the whole thing had to be reshot. I don't think anyone wanted to do another picture in this manner, including Hitchcock.
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I would never call Bogart ugly. He actually was a rather handsome guy when he was younger, but he lived hard and aged a lot (like William Holden) . Some people like that hardened look on a guy. Sign of maturity. Only when you're 50 you don't want to look 70. Certainly Bogie did mellow some in his later years, marrying a young gal, becoming a father, etc. Bogart had his friends and probably was very civil at times. But it does sound like he was one of those guys who did a personality change, not for the better, after some drinks.
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I don't know about anything close to NYC. The aircraft carrier U.S.S Intrepid is right on the Hudson (I don't know what WW2 aircraft they have there, that ship has a long service record WW2 to the late 60's) Every summer (first weekend in June) the Mid- Atlantic Air Museum in Reading , Pa has a WW2 weekend. Its a terrific event, reenactors, military equipment, and of course lots of planes, all flying around. You can get a ride in a plane like a B 25 Mitchell or a B 17. The last few years we had the only flying B 29 come in for the show. Our Canadian friends from the Hamilton museum brought down a Lancaster bomber a few years ago. The best thing of all is that there are a number of WW2 vets who come and give little talks. And we all know, these guys ain't going to be with us much longer.
Bogart Vs. Cagney Vs. Robinson
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Tom, if my memory is right here, early in the film Howard (the experienced prospector among the three) remarks about finding and eventually losing several fortunes in his life. It seems for him, the search is now the real thrill in life, he has a nonchalant attitude about finding another fortune. Notice how trusting he is with his partners, in contrast to Dobbs, who gets increasingly suspicious of everything. Curtain, the young guy of the three, is sort of on the fence here. Of course he learns the hard way about what gold fever does to Dobbs. At the end, Howard just laughs off the irony of their plight (losing all of the gold) and after a few seconds, Curt sees things the same way. Que, sera, sera.