butterscotchgreer

HEY LARRRRRRRRYYYY!!!! I missed you...I missed all of you actually! Heehee! ((And I'm not even going to mention that Frank fessed up that he has nearly every Greer Garson film ever made? )) Too bad, you mentioned it and now I will ne ver let Frankie forget it. it's a real pity he doesn't really like Greer. heehee! Even though, technically Greer is the best and prettiest...although I might be a tad biased. But you know what I mean. I do still have my long black gloves in case he gives us any trouble.....muwaahahahahahaha! Hope you have been doing well! I have, I have! How have you been doing with everything! Baby T

Hey birthday dutch boy! Okay, you're right. That was sweet of you. have you been watching your femme fatale movies today? No it's not! Then you lied to me! You said you liked it, especially when you heard it in Borders and became angry at me for putting it in your head. heehee! Deadly! i feel put upon...

How is everyone on here! I miss everyone ever so dearly! Better late than never! Oh, wait. It's you. what do you mean, it's me? I even sang Happy Birthday to you and everything! It better be good songs! oh you mean like the motorcycle song? that's a good song! And who's Theresa? She sounds poisonous! I'm not poison ivy! for the last time, frankie! My hugs are sweet, they don't bite!

Sorry I'm late!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO FRANKIE!!!!! Im singing to you!

I'm great, thanks. We are all doing well, and I just got done with a teaching job at the historical society here. Yeah I heard about that. How exciting that must have been! Did you enjoy it? I am glad to hear you are still swing dancing.... aerials sound fun! I hope you can chat with us a bit in the next few days or weeks or whatever. It just isn't the same without you! I?m learning new things all the time, it?s really exhilarating! You should try it, Wendy, you would love it! I?ll definitely be on more to chat?hopefully. Heehee! I?ve been watching many movies I want to review.

*Butterscotch - fancy meeting you here. Hope school is going well.* Hey cinemafan! I miss you too! It is, very much so! Are you doing well?

*Oh my gosh! Scotchie! How are you!* Hey Wendy! I'm doing really good! I've been doing so much lately and have missed being on here too much. Heehee! How are you? *I am so glad I didn't go to bed..... I would've missed you!* Me too! *How are things going?* I'm done with school until the fall. i'm not taking summer classes to save a little money. That's always good. I'm still swing dancing every week and am now doing more aerials with my dance partners and actually found some vintage dancing heels from the 30s that are reproductions. I'm super excited about that! I went to go see Frenzy on the big screen at th Paramount Theater...I'm still waiting for them to play a Ben Johnson movie there....and Greer; which they have yet to play. Heehee! How are you?

Hey Wendy! I loooooove that pic you posted! Thank you bunches and bunches!

Hey Cinie-T!! How are you today? What about Jimmy Stewart with Reese Witherspoon? I've always wondered how they would do together. It would be a cute chick flick! OOH OOH! Or maybe Kate Hudson with Gregory Peck. I could see that! Those are the first two that popped in my head.

Hey Cinie T! Finally we get Doris into the onversation! Yay! Love Me or Leave Me isn't my favorite of her movies, but her acting is really good in it with the unlikely pairing of Cagney you won't see anywhere else. Heehee! Is "Ten Cents a Dance" you favorite number?

I thought you would like that!

Hey Grumpy Dutch Boy! I thought so, too! Boy, was I wrong. You?re just grumpy! Someone needs a hug! And if you say the word, ?No? to me again, I WILL take out my long black gloves! Muwahahaha! Heehee! Yes, Jackie's point was a great one! I don't think it's just survival for her, though. I think it was also something else. She was trying to find a sense of closure through a difficult way. How so? Because I think she really wanted to find that missing element to her life; the true reason for the life she was leading; the ?hate? for men she protruded. she just went about it in the wrong way, inadvertently. Ironically, her way of trying to find ?closure? was through thievery, and using men to her advantage. She just didn?t understand the havoc, she was wreaking.

I can't believe this! This makes me so sad! she was among my very top favorite singers ever! Here's a tribute to this influencial and unique lady!

Bonjour, BitterSourGreer -- I honestly wanna know how Marnie became such a smart predator (aside from watching her mother go through those tribulations) I mean she really knew what she was doing, I just don't think she really knew what she wanted in her life. Where does this bitter sour stuff come in? I thought I was sweet and lovable! That's a really good question. She seems to study animal behavior just as Mark does. This goes to Jackie's point of the two being similar. For Mark, I believe it's a curiosity, a stimulant. For her, it's survival. Yes, Jackie's point was a great one! I don't think it's just survival for her, though. I think it was also something else. She was trying to find a sense of closure through a difficult way. let's just hope she doesn't teach frankenstein anything. I'm kind and loving! What a liar!

A smart predator uses the weaknesses of their prey against them. The men are using Marnie in their own way with the hopes of using her in other ways. She outsmarts them in the end. I honestly wanna know how Marnie became such a smart predator (aside from watching her mother go through those tribulations) I mean she really knew what she was doing, I just don't think she really knew what she wanted in her life. ....let's just hope she doesn't teach frankenstein anything.

You are brilliant! While Marnie got someone stronger than she, someone who could actually see HER, not just the facade she put forward, Mark got something he never had before - a woman who was a complete mystery to him. He always got what he wanted, especially women. He is always in control, but Marnie rocks him.... he isn't in charge of her, and worse, he isn't in charge of himself when he's with her. He's got to reign it in. In fact, I'd say MArk and MArnie are exactly the same - they are both thrown for a loop by the other. They both gain a purpose in their life when they find each other. Hey Wendy darlin'! How interestingly said! He WAS in fact in charge of everything in reach of himself and, BOOM, when they met, he lost it, because he didn't know how to handle it, her, or himself in this whole situation. They both got a reality check! heehee!

Wow. I think you've got something there, Baby T. I think Marnie really shakes Mark up. He's a "silver spoon" lad, used to getting what he wants all his life no doubt. Then he lost his wife. I think he hates to lose anything he loves and that's why whenever Marnie moves to leave him, it's flips him out. I think it's a little more than just the male challenge to pursue the female...it's the frustration and fear he's going to lose her again. But that's just a surmise, really. Your words there prompted me to speculate on his motivations that way. Yay! That's what I mean! He was a "spoiled" person in life and when he met Marnie, all the sudden that changed the way he perceived things. That has to be the reason he got so darn angry when she tried to leave him all those times. It makes perfect sense. I really love Marnie, but not only for Tippi. I love Sean Connery in this movie and I really pay attention to the way he displays emotion within his character. Mark is important and he has some hidden secrets that I think he was afraid to put forth in front of Marnie with her own emotional distress, but when she was acting out, he waqs reacting to it all and you can see the reason he reacts the way he does. They taught each other such different things in life and I love how they react with each other. I think that is truly the hidden message within the movie.

Butterscotch brings up ROMANCE again, and I have to admit, all of these factors - one person 'saving' another (whether it's Knight In Shining Armor or Florence Nightingale) is a core issue with romance. I think MARNIE is a strong romance. Hey Ollie darlin'! Now did you really expect me not to say something? Heehee! Thank you, i do think it is a strong romance, just a little different than Cary Grant showing up in silvery shining armor for Myrna Loy in Bachelor and the Bobby-Soxer. In this case, Mark showed up and "caught" her as you and MissG so delicately put it. But you're both right. I think that actually adds more romance to it oddly enough. And you know what? I don't think Marnie's was the only one to get saved in this movie. I think Mark got blown away by her even though he was the one trying to make her whole again. What would happen if Marnie actually made him realize something about life? It's not as he thought it was.

Heavens to Butterscotch, you don?t want to do that. You?ll ruin the enjoyment of the movie if you pick it apart psychologically. B?lieve me, I had film classes in college that would just ruin a film. I was just being silly. Heehee! That friend of mine from my campus is taking a film appreciation class and he thinks I know more than his teacher does and says he butchers westerns and musicals in particular for some odd reason. Goodness. I don't even want to know what he would say about Marnie. Nobody messes with Marnie! Heehee! I see what you?re saying and agree. If she were quiet enough, she might have truly escaped Mark. So why didn?t she? She was stealthy and cunning enough to escape her other financial victims. She ultimately wanted the help...his help. Thank you! That's ultimately what I wanted to say! That's how she wanted his help, she kept in contact with him instead of doing it the other way around like her other "financial victims". Very nicely put, CinemAva! I believe on some level Marnie knew something was not quite right with how she went about doing things. Her life of stealing, having many identities, moving from town-to-town, not quite having her Mother?s love (?why do you always move away from me??) she didn?t know how to fix it, but she knew it wasn?t right. You know how we human beans are... Oh yes! I'm with you here! I don't think Marnie enjoyed her life of stealing; she definitely didn't understand it. She knew she needed someone, something to stabilize herself, she just didn't exactly know what it was she needed at first. I really agree with what you and April were saying about how Tippi played this part. I don't know why people say she was Hitch's worse blonde, but I really liked her in The Birds and Marnie, especially Marnie. I thought her emotions were perfectly displayed through her scared facade. She made her character so believable for me. She can make you cry out of pity for her, she really can.

Hi Baby T., Well...you got that right. Nothing mushy in this movie. I think this is Hitch's take on psychiatry cloaked in this plot. I second that motion! This is why I maybe should have waited to see Marnie until i was older than 11 years old. I didn't understand any of it like i do now and I still don't understand parts of it. Heehee! You need to take a psych 101 class just to pick apart this movie. I might have been a bit harsh on Mark. I tell ya I go backward and forward on his character b'cuz his virility is pretty potent for me and I'm kind of forgiving that way. I might have even been trying to be a little politically correct. (Hang my head in shame for not being my true honest self). He was trying to help her figure out what was wrong, so he could have a whole woman and secondly, so she could be a whole person. I don't think it's that you were harsh on Mark, it's just that you saw a side of his character that you were focusing solely on and going with it, but he does have a couple sides that are extremely complex, just like Marnie does. I think everyone goes back and forth with his character, because frankly, sometimes i don't understand what he is trying to do. HOWEVER, i did understand the scenes where he noticed little things and put the pieces together about her life before he met her and was trying to figure out how to fix the broken ones. I think it was because he wanted her to love him the way he loved her. They had a different kind of love that wasn't exactly transparent...it was more like opaque. heehee! I mean they couldn't get really close without her freaking out and he really struggled with it. She was very childish in this way and in many other ways, because she had a very haunting childhood that even she couldn't fully understand and I think that's why I said she was clingy to him. I mean I know she almost bolted on him a couple times, but that was out of her fright. I think she stayed with him, because to a point she wanted desperately to feel free or her memories and dark life of crime subconsciously. You're not way off here, Baby T. These are your thoughts and opinions. I disagree though. I never found Marnie clingy to Mark. That gal was ready to bolt a couple of times in the movie. She wanted to freshen up...she wanted to drown in the pool...she changed from Edith Head gown to Mrs. Peel black and was packing to run away. I believe Marnie knew she was lacking "something" but I think Marnie thought she could take care of herself and it would work out. I don't think she was trying to reach out for anything but cold hard cash. She felt she didn't need anything else (other than her Mom's love) to make things better. She thought she was going fine as she was...the only thing is she got caught. well i see your point and you're probably right, She "thought" she could take care of herself, but Mark knew she couldn't without getting herself killed first. What exactly do you think Marnie knew she was lacking in her life?

*"MARNIE? is by no means a romantic Hitchcock movie. I give that label to my beloved obses-* *sively delirious "VERTIGO.? Now when I say it is a woman?s picture, I don?t mean like a three-hanky, tear-jerking, Davis-Crawford-Dunne-Shearer-Harding chick-flick weepie. I mean it is a Female picture; a ?what it means to be Female...? albeit a Female gone wrong.* Hey Cinie-T!! You know, I always thought Marnie was a Hitch romantic movie, but in a different way then his others were. It, by no means, is a mushy romantic movie with lots of cuddling and kissing, but it has that connection between Sean Connery trying to find out what is bothering and festering in Marnie's mind and Marnie trying to find herself in this "dark" world that she can't figure out. I always thought she was clingy in a sort of way to him, because she was looking for security, even though she was still scared of him at the same time. She felt a lack of it in her life and she wanted to reach out for it and was trying her best to get it from him. Am I way off here? Edited by: butterscotchgreer on May 5, 2010 1:01 PM

Gross! You poor thing. I'm in need of rescuing myself. Not from Frankenstein, but other monsters. Oh no! I'll help you dahlink!!

Hey dahlink! Frankenstein captured and locked me up as his prisoner! Why didn't you come help me?!

Hey Dahlink! I love that picture of her in the hat! It makes her look so mysterious. I love seeing her that way occassionally when she's not being so girly with the diamonds and pink everywhere. Heehee! I watched Niagara the other day and thought of you!