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okay okay dahlink! im here! heehee!
okey dokey, my list of Dukie Dames are as follows:
1)Amelia Dedham(Elizabeth Allen) ~ *Donovan's Reef* (of course you and frankie both knew i would list that one first. heehee)
2)Mary Kate Danaher(Maureen O'Hara) ~ *The Quiet Man*
3)Penelope Worth(Gail Russell) ~ *Angel and the Badman*
4)Eula(Katharine Hepburn) ~ *Rooster Cogburn*
5)Anna Maria 'Dallas' D'Allesandro(Elsa Martinelli) ~ *Hatari!*
6)Dallas(Claire Trevor) ~ *Stagecoach*
7)Cathy Grainger(Lauren Bacall) ~ *Blood Alley* (not many people probably agree with me, but i grew up withthis movie at grandmama's house and i immidiately loved them together eversince i was really little.)
8)Katherine Gilhooley McLintock(Maureen O'Hara) ~ *McLintock!*
9)Molly J. Truesdale(Jean Arthur) ~ *A Lady Takes a Chance*
10)Bess Mathews(Lucile Browne) ~ *Texas Terror*
11)Mrs. Kathleen Yorke(Maureen O'Hara) ~ *Rio Grande*
12)Dita(Sophia Loren) ~ *Legend of the Lost*
13)Olivia Dandridge(Joanne Dru) ~ *She Wore a Yellow Ribbon*
14)Alice Singleton(Donna Reed) ~ *Trouble Along the Way*
15)Constance Chesley(Susan Hayward) ~ *The Fighting Seabees*
those are just my top 15 favorites. heehee! how did you like them?
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i love Forbidden! thanks for that pic dahlink! i think "feelings" is the perfect word for that movie.
*The worst part of the film, in my opinion, is the relation between Barbara and her child. It's*
*too tenuous for me to believe.*
yes, i thoroughly agree. it just wasnt believeable enough to like that relationship. they could have done better with their relationship, although that may have made the film look different if they did that. in every aspect of this film, i dont think could have changed how smooth their relationship went without making something look or seem different in their characters.
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hey frankie!!
*One Duke dame that has not been mentioned that I like is "Ameilia Dedham" from Donovan's Reef.*
finally the truth comes out! yay! we agree on something, i love Amelia Dedham......she is own of my favorite strong leading ladies, especially in a Duke movie. Pax? heehee! Elizabeth Allen really did do an excellent job as Amelia. she hit every scene just right! especially in one of my favorite scenes when they race to the beach...heehee!
hey bronxie!!
*Lansbury was brilliantly icy in TMC but I'm not getting the right sex appeal vibe for her as Rebecca.*
woah! that would be a huge leap for Angela, not thay i think she couldnt do it, b/c she is extremely versatile, but i agree with you, i dont think i could see her creating the right appeal as Rebecca.. holy joe! thats just weird to picture. heehee!
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i watched No Men for Her Own last night and thought it was a cute movie, but for a carole and clark movie i was disappointed, i thought there would be more to it, the story i mean. for some reaons i had the feeling it would be a little more intense in their relationship. i dont know why, heehee! i had seen this one at grandmama's house a long time ago, but vaguely remember most of the story. so i just had to watch it again. unfortunately i only caught it ten minutes into it so i couldnt record it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBbnYdVaj8E
FRANKIE!!! "the Flame" is such a GREAT song! its one of my mother's favorites songs and i have heard it over and over again. she loves harmonizing to them in that video. heehee! i always thought it was such a weird song though. the lyrics disturbed me for some reason. heehee!
of course you would like that song...
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hey maureen!
sorry i have been sick lately...so far my whole family has gotten it. heehee!
i would love to see that feature about loretta and ty. sounds very enlightening! im surely i would enjoy it...apparently you loved it. heehee! i seriously dont see how ty could choose annabella over loretta...goodness! heehee!
grandpapa watched A Man's castle with me when i told you about my first viewing of it....he said he didnt remember when it came out, of course he wasa toddler when it came out, but thats a minor detail. heehee! he does love many of her older movie when she was very young, but he seems to enjoy her later ones more, b/c those are the ones he remembers most when going on dates with grandmama. they went to, i think, ....lets see they got married in 1959, and dated for a long time. i seem to remember grandmama mentioning some of their date movies....Half Angel, It Happens Every Thursday, Because of You, and i think they went to a few more, but i cant remember which ones...then they went to each other's house when her show would come on TV every week and sat together watching it with their families....talk about cute moments. heehee! i have a picture of grandmama on grandpapa's lap when they were dating in the 50s... they are too cute!
they didnt only go see loretta movie at the theater though, grandmama's favorites were loretta, junie allyson, and rock hudson and a few more to say the least....well before she found out his secret...it killed her, she still cries everytime we watch a movie of his. heehee! her favorite movie of his is Written on the Wind and apparently they went to that one as a date too. heehee!
sounds like you had a tasty birthday maureen!! im glad you got your birthday dinner! ribblets are good arent they? they can be somewhat addicting if you arent careful...i never use my fingers in anything i eat, not even sandwhiches, i use utensils, but when i eat ribs, its a whole different story. i use hands all the way up to my elbows....so much fun to eat them... heehee!
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*Guten Tag Meine Butterscotcherin!*
oh now youre changing languages on me....confusion approaching. heehee!
*Ah, but t'was not my hand, t'was the Captain Hook. Are you not a Peter Pan Scholar? Why was a clock in the croc's stomach? Was Hook holding a clock in his hand when the crock struck? Or did the crock bite the hand when the clock struck. Confusion City.*
i wouldnt say i was a scholar. i think youre more of the scholar than i am. there could be a few reasons for the clock ticking in the crock......i think you have the right answer, but i dont know. i have seen a few versions of peter pan though........
a play done by a friend in middle school as Peter
Peter Pan (2003)
Peter Pan(1953)
Hook
Peter Pan (1924)
the 2003 version is my favorite, with the cartoon in second and the 1924 version following in 3rd, and hook last....i like Hook as a cutesie movie, but it isnt my favorite version of Peter Pan there is, although i think Maggie Smith did a smashing job as Wendy, i love Maggie.
2003 version
i thought she looked so much like Katharine Hepburn when i saw this and wanted to know if she was in some way a relation to her, but i dont think she is.
i had the biggest crush on him when this came out. i was 13. he is a cutie!
*But what s this? You re hiding my wine too. Ouchy!*
of course i am! the wine is just as dangerous!
*Hide the wine! Hide the wine!*
*For Butterscotchgreer is looking to find,*
*Satisfied not with the rum absconding*
*The wine, the wine, now abducting*
*O woe is me, O rue the day*
*When that ole Butterscotchgreer*
*Steals the wine and takes it away*
*Who knows where, shedding no tear*
thats a cute one! i like it.
*Well, yes, sometimes. I thought maybe that guy pinched the waitress, like those Italians are famous for doing, although you are probably not so fond of Italians right now seeing how that Gino treated your Helen.*
why would i not be fond of Italians? it was a movie silly goose.....every time i think of Italians, i always now think of Where Angels Fear to Tread and the Golden Girls...remember? Sophia and Dorothy were from Italy and they used to talk about it all the time. according to sophia, "Italians know how to discipline, make love and sing opera." heehee! oh sophia, whatever will i do with her? but yes, i do have something against that Gino for shaking my poor Helen!
*Too bad that Caroline Evers wasn't a muwaha-muwaha girl then. Boy, look at this. She coulda pulled one of these on pool ole Gino and he would have handed over that baby in no time. I think we should bring Helena into our muwahaha maunderings, she certainly looks the part.*
yeah too bad Helena didnt put a crusio curse on Gino....what am i saying? only the bad people do those spells...i would never do that! by the way when you asked what Harry movie the picture is from, its from the 5th movie. she plays Bellatrix Lestrange, Lord Voldemort's most loyal and most evil death eater, and the only reason i know this is because my little brother and mother are obssessed with Harry Potter and never stop talking about it.....i just like daniel radcliffe. heehee! i find the dark side of the Harry Potter stories scary.
*I spiked your butterscotch candies with real rum. No wonder they get you through the day. You should be getting tipsy every time you have one of those seeming innocuous little candies. Maybe you can t tell the difference. Your just so happy all the time, you can t even tell.*
wow! you really dont want me to trust you anymore do you? heehee! okay ill go with it......
what is in thy sweets? my body ackes, im melting! heehee! i fall to the ground......kerplunk!
*Now, do you think I m gonna be afraid of a fake machete. Especially of someone who is drunk on spiked butterscotch candies.*
well you could make me happy by pretending! heehee!
*Well, you re not supposed to poke someone s eye put inadvertently, you re supposed to do it on purpose. And here I was, getting ready to offer you a permanent position on my galleon Girl Machete Corps. If you re gonna be on my ship, you can t be a sissy (even if you are a girl).*
ill leave the eye poking to you, seeing as though you are a blood thirsty pirate, im an innocent bystander, who only uses her fak machete in self defense, especially against the people who love their rummy.
*Well, gee, gosh golly darn, I m really afraid of a fake machete being carried around in a I love lucy purse. Sorry, Murgatroyd Greer, that doesn t sound like a whole lot to deal with. ( course stealin my rum and wine is a different story )*
i dont carry my machete in my I Love Lucy purse silly...i carry it in my Greer Garson purse...its bigger its fits better in there, but alas, im going to have to find a new one, since someone broke into my car through through the window and stole my greer purse. that was a real lulu let me tell you. i forgot to tell you i got a greer opurse. sorry...i found a Guess purse that had these big G's on it everywhere in brown and green and they were two G's stuck together on ontop of the other and it immerged in my head, "Greer Garson, hey its my GG purse. cute!" but thats was short lived apparently. bakc to my i love lucy purse.
*I m sorry to have to break this to you Miss Happy Chuckles, but gary and darcy are not coming to rescue you because you haven t chosen which one you like the best. You don t think I m gonna let you off the hook with that one, do ya?*
tattle tale! heehee! seriously, now youdidnt have to go telling them i couldnt choose just yet...i dont think they beliee you, who would they believe? the dirty pirate? or the girl who bats her eye lashes with a puppy dog pout? heehee!
*Danny? Uh, who s Danny? Is this another one of your beaus? Oh, Daaaarcy? Oh Gaaary? MissScotchie is flirting with someone new.*
danny kaye of course! he was swordfighting with basil to have his one true love at the end of the movie, the Court Jester of course! i wasnt flirting with him! i only flirt with gary and darcy!
*S-u-p-e-r-d-u-p-e-r-l-a-l-a-p-a-l-o-o-z-a*
*Is that right? Can I come out of the corner now?*
no, you still cant spell it right!
little jack horner
sat in the corner
eating his Christmas pie
he put on his thumb and pulled out a plumb
and said, "what a good boy am i?"
i hope thats right. heehee!
*Well, I ve been easy on you so far. But If I ever really get mad at you, you sure better watch out! I have a new sword that I need to try out and I may have to use a certain butterscotchie person I know to see if it cuts good enough.*
well then ill just have to get out my couldron and whip up some liver and lima beans. heehee!
*There was once a pirate laffite*
*Who had nary a bath for a week*
*He was so ranky stanky*
*There was no hanky panky*
*Because no girl could suffer the reek.*
ill finish it for you....
he hated his liver and limas
but i gave them to him anyway
his livid face turned green-as
but thats okay
ill give him a spoon full of sugar
...and he'll be all better!
*Are you sure about that? He looked pretty perturbed to me. So you re saying then that Darcy purposely let her win so that he can butter her up. That s condescending to her. I think that Elizabeth should give him a good slap across the face for that. Who does he think he is anyway patronizing poor Elizabeth that way. Especially after he thought her such a low class little snit. Liz should forget all about Darcy and go find Smithy. At least Smithy doesn t play silly games like Darcy. He just doesn t know who he is. Boy that Greer sure knows how to pick em.*
Darcy could never get perturbed at lizzy, he got dissappointed in her ,b/c he didnt understand at first, but then he started to love her. but i actually think lizzy's dexterity with a bow was just a better than his. heehee! hey, at least she didnt rub it in his face okay.
i shot some bow and arrows over the weekend, and i pretended like i was lizzy and my little brother looked at me like i was an idiot. heehee!
*There are some I wish I could forget.*
i surely wish i could forget some movies too.. the other day i turned on the Chiller channel thinking thw alfred Hitchcock hour was on, but the movie Dr. Giggles was on instead and i had no clue what it was of course, so i watched about 5 minutes of it and i started in the wrong time of the movie. it FREAKED me out big time!!! he tied a woman to a chair and forced a tub down her throat and there was this black spinning thinig in the tube and he sucked stuff up out of her stomakc and then turned the spinner on and i screamed louder than you would want to heear and fell to the couch hiding my head in a pillow, and now i promptly cant get that scene out of my head! i immidiately changed the channel and when momma got home i told ehr what i had seen and she just smiled evily and said, "oh yeah i have seen that movie when it first came out. you wont like it." i answered. "no really! i already found that out." i shouldnt ever be surprised when momma says she has seen a freaky movie, but i am for some reason, she loves sci-fi movies..yucky!
i wish more than anything i could forget that movie,,,what movie do you wish you could forget?
*...okay here's the one you NEED to see! i think you will love it!! The Little Minister (1975). i love it love it love it!! its one of my favorites from helen on TV. she got me talking Scottish/Shakespearean at the same time with that movie. heehee! she is so gorgeous in it too. this is actually a rare case in which i love the remake...*
*I have it! It came from Netflix and there is a bonus, i.e,. a second program, The Philanthropist. Did you see that one? Anyone, as of the moment, I haven t seen them but I will shortly.*
yay!!! i cant wait to hear how you liked it...or didnt like it? i really would like an opinion on it.
when i first watched The Philanthropist, i thought the beginning was good when they were altogether talking in that apartment over the most random things and helen and that guy loked like a cute couple, until the party ended and both of them got into trouble with one another and the rest of it was about them talking about why they were ingaged and how they ever got together in the first place....he wasa people pleaser and she thought that was cute, but then realized what she really wanted. she wanted a stronger man. i didnt like how it ended, but i loved listening to their perecptions on each other. it was sort of silly, but interesting to watch. i thought she was really pretty in it, but it wasnt my favorite....if you watch it, tell me what you think... you may like it more than i did.
*O Butter, you know how to get to me, don t you? Ooooooh, you are a meanie to say that! I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate Lucy. Why, if I capture her Iand cut her up with my new sword and then fry her up and feed her to the crew. And Schroeder will send me an email thanking me for having lucy for dinner because now he can concentrate on Beethoven, and I ll email him back and say, you re welcome, but my crew was sick for three weeks.*
GASPS!!! cut her up? im scared now! here comes Dr. Giggles, the pirate!!! heehee! i dont hate lucy van pelt that much. heehee! schroeder would miss her, how could you be so heartless... that just shows how much you understand schroeder and lucy's relationship. heehee!
*Okay, then&no more speeches. Nothing but hugs and kisses. But it s going to be an awfully boring movie. Hugs and kisses only go so far.*
not in any movie i have seen! there is no such thing as too many kisses or hugs in a movie. goodness! the idea! but of course you kind of have to havea little speech so they can fight before they end up kissing each other. thats the way it goes. heehee!
*Oh, is that what that was? I thought those were cataracts.*
neither greer or ronald had chataracs!!! how could you?
her eyes were soooo beautiful and they shine so brightly, especially when being around darcy and smithy....couldnt you tell? smithy of course had gorgeous eyes, i could melt into his eyes in a second.*The Pelican*
*A wonderful bird is the pelican*
*His mouth can hold more than his belican*
*He can take in his beak*
*Enough food for a week*
*I'm damned if I know how the helican*
when i was growing up my parents watched The Pelican Brief a lot, and i never liked that movie, it always scared me, and now every time i hear the word Pelican i think of that movie. please dont put me through that agony. heehee! i would much rather think about gary and darcy thank you.
*Buttercup was not real. She was a made up princess in that book that Peter Falk was reading to his nephew. So there*
just because she was from a book, doesnt mean she wasnt real.....where's that active imagination of yours? buttercup is alive trying to survive in her summer home in the fire swamp with her dear whesley. go check for yourself.....and fighting off the R.O.U.S.'s.
*Well, it s evident that you all have that teacher wrapped around your collective pinkies.*
well thats the general idea. heehee!
*Convince me. Tell what movie it's from, for instance, okay? Tell me a little or no more butterscotch candies for you,*
i cant think right now, i have been sick for a week, and im having a.....whats it you call it......a "junior moment" heehee!
all i know is that i recognize it from somewhere.tootles for now
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*Are you talking about the end of the film? I remember Caroline saying something like, ?It?s almost as if he didn?t care about the baby at all,? after the baby had died, partly because (she is thinking) Gino seems to accept it and move on (and in a way that an English person could not do, she may be implying), but that was something she said in passing. Or are you referring to something earlier? But no, I don?t think she believed that at the end. And we can see that she became convinced that he loved the baby, especially in that scene that began when she fainted (referred to below).*
i was talking about at the end of the film when caroline was talking to phillip. i dont think gino accepted that his baby died....didnt he like try to jump Phillip and kill him? i got confused when Caroline said to drink from the same milk vase to settle it. that was really random, maybe it was them to share and realize life itself. but at least Phillip was a gentleman about it, and protected Harriette from being accused, but goodness she deserved it, b/c it was basically her fault. he told Gino if he took it out on anybody to do it to him. i admired him for saying that, butthe poor man got so beaten up by Gino. i sort of saw that coming though, i wish it hadnt happened. Caroline had to come to everyone's rescue and its a good thing she did.
why did Caroline faint in the first place...when she did that, i was like, "what happened?" was it because she saw the chest of a man in the 1900s when that didnt happen unless you were married? or was it because he said something about dropping hot cigars ashes on someone? i think he was being sarchastics wasnt he?
*When Harriet and Philiip are in the carriage with the baby there are some bits of conversation and Harriet says something like, ?There was no one there, there was no one there,? meaning Gino?s house. She may have gone there with the intent to negotiate but ended up just taking the baby when Gino was nowhere to be seen. But just earlier she had surprised upon Phillip and Gino?s conversation in the cafe whereby they had mutually conceded that further negotiations were out of the question and Gino would keep the baby and Phillip, Harriet, and Caroline would return to England. Overhearing that, Harriet might have gone to Gino?s, knowing he wasn?t there, in an attempt to steal the baby. In either case, only Harriet could have done this. We can give the English (in general) a pass on that one. Neither Phillip nor Caroline would have gone so far as to actually steal the baby, IMO.*
when harriet had something in her arms and hurrying Phillip with the carriage i asked momma what was in her arms? as if i didnt know. golly! heehee! momma's eyes were wide and she said, "no........ she didnt!" i said, "(GASPS) oh yes she did!......oh....NO!" it was disturbing but funny. heehee! me and momma were talkin g over if Gino really loved his baby, b/c momma said, "there's no way he left that baby aloone, it has to be someone else's baby." but then we heard Harriet say, "there was no on home!" we both almost fainted. goodness me!
*?Phillip, on the outside you are full of all kinds of good intentions but on the inside you are dead, dead, dead!? Oooh, that gets me (weep weep), oh that Caroline doesn?t mince words. That was so dramatic for me! She might have been addressing all of England! Phillip is brought to earth by this and delivers that reflective speech, i.e., ?I seem to glide through life?and if something ever happens in life I?m not there.? (These are approximate quotes. I wish I had the DVD to refer to )*
thats basically how i reacted when i heard her say that. i thought to myself if Caroline actually said those words. momma said she was right, and i told her that was so mean to say. heehee! but it was as if Phillip didnt know how to express emotion for himself. he always did as he was told by his mother and sister and always went with everything they did. finally he started to realize anger approaching when Gino started to fight with him after the baby died. it was rather interesting to watch.
do you think Phillip had a liking for Caroline? i thought i saw something between those two especially in their alone scenes, and thats why i was so surprised when she said she was in love with Gino. i was completely surprised. when she said that, my mouth immidiately dropped and i was frozen for minutes! heehee!
*She adored Gino. As to her previous marriage, it was apparently a loveless one. Either it was a marriage of convenience or she might have just chosen badly. Whatever it was, she didn't love her first husband. But she did love Gino.*
do you think her love for Gino was still as strong after the all the things that happened to her before she died? i mean, i could see in her face that she was hurting BECAUSE she was still in love with him, in my opinion, and thats why she was scared, b/c she couldnt stop loving him. im guessing that why she put up with everything, but when she had the baby, her body finally couldnt handle it anymore, b/c she was so miserable to the point of burning out. but maybe im wrong, thats the impression i got anyway.
*The music is by Rachel Portman, who won an Oscar for Cider House. The music in Angels is great in it?s own right but the way it is integrated with the action is very moving too. If you still have DVD, watch the beginning scene at the train station with Caroline saying goodbye to her father. Listen to the music as the action unfolds. The music begins at that point and then crescendos as we see the train pulling out of the station, Philip and Harriet running alongside the moving train yelling things to Lilia as they wave, and culminating with Caroline and Lilia hugging each other on the train as it pulls away from the station. Just brilliant! Almost a set piece in itself. The music is wonderful in this way throughout.*
when i started the movie for the first time, i thought about how you love classic music and i read you mentioning them usic in this movie a couple times so i payed extra attention to the music when it began. i absolutely loooved it, especially at the opening of the movie atthe train station, you are right, it should be a separate piece in itself.
*I?ll get you the title of the aria. It?s very famous and from an equally famous opera, Lucia de Lamoormoor, by Donizetti.*
i loved that opera scene! is that what it is called? i couldnt figure it out.
*And what did you make of that insufferable fussbudget Harriet actually standing up and turning to the audience and saying ?Shush, shush,? during the applause and then saying outrageously, referring to the opera, ?Where is Walter Scott in all this, that?s what I want to know. Where is Walter Scott?? This is almost over-the-top tongue in cheek but the point is driven home again how the English are so egocentric with regard to the rest of the world. (To the popular English reading audience of that time, Sir Walter Scott?s novels were the most widely read)*
i started laughing so hard when Harriet stood up to "shush" the audience. they didnt seem to care and kept on cheering. i love it! i wanted to "shush" harriet throughout the whole movie. heehee!
*Do you own the DVD? If so, you can watch again. I think there?s a lot to it and the performances are so good. And we haven?t mentioned some of the beautiful countryside. If you have any further comments about his, please air them. I?m so glad you watched it. If you don?t agree with something I wrote, please post it. Sorry this was so long, drat!*
yes, i bought the DVD off Amazon.com i couldnt wait anymore for it to come on TV. i wanted it too badly. heehee! the Countryside was verybeautiful, and i had always wanted to go to Italy and now i want to go even more. SIGHS! heehee! what did you think about the scenery?
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*Could you tell me what you mean by ?normal? character? I find that an interesting comment (seriously) and would like to know what you mean by that please. Yes, she was normal in that she has the most sense than any of the characters. She keeps us all sane, in fact?everyone else is on a tangent.*
well my mother has this morbid fascination for weird movies and she watched the newest version of Sweeney Todd, and she loves Helena's Charceter in Harry Potter(Belatrix) who both characters just happen to be murders...i dont know, the woman freaks me out a little, plus she married Tim burton. gives me goosbumps i guess. heehee!
see the difference....im not at all bashing her, i think her acting abilities show to make her very versatile, and thats good. that just says your a great actor or actress, but her make-up is what freaks me out mostly and her characters. heehee!
dont you think Lilia was sane too? i mean if you think about it, it really wasnt her fault, any of it. she was perfectly in tact with the real world, its just that she went through a tough time when her husband died and ended up getting herself into something she couldnt get herself out of.
*It?s important to remember that this is 1900ca. The novel on which this movie is based (of the same title), shows the clash of cultures and is meant to criticize the hubris of the English. Yes, he abused her by any reasonable standard but he is bound by his own culture. When poor Lilia wants to go for that walk and he blocks her, saying, ?I cannot let you go out alone. My friends will laugh at me,? he is telling the truth. And having tea parties (Lilia?s dearest wish), is just not done in Italy. Her duty was to stay in and be an ?Italian? wife. Although we wince of his treatment of her, if we?re honest, we know that he is acting the only way he knows how. He can?t let her go out alone, out of the question. Remember too just before the baby was born, we see the men smoking cigars and playing cards and the women in the chapel praying. That how it was. Lilia was made to become a Catholic because that?s women did because it gave them something to do.*
i do think it all comes down to the different traditions and cultures clashing together because of the marriage. i understodd that Gino was very used to Italians and his own ways of doing everything, but its like he shut his mind off when it came to her life, i mean isnt marriage about giving to each other, its like her didnt care what she wanted, granted i respected that he TRIED to give her a tea party at first, but that didnt last very long, b/c he didnt understand it like she did in her own culture. i mean she was right when she said, "if you wanted an Italian wife, then you should have married one, but you married me instead." he didnt even take that line into consideration when he should have, he shut his mind off her opinions and was being stubborn.....okay so if i took into consideration the fact that this is set in the early 1900s, i can understand that women were suppose to follow their husbands in what they did, especially the Italians, BUT that still doesnt give Gino the right to treat her like he did. when he told her his freinds would laugh at him for his wife taking a simple walk by herself,i know it would have happened like that, but seriously a simple walk to give her room to breathe is all she needed. you saw how he kept her isolated in his house bored out of her poor brain, and she wasnt a Catholic, she didnt want to become Catholic, but she did it for him, so everyone could accept her, and it made her miserable. im speaking as another Catholic too. im guessing it was because she was scared he would try to "shake life into her" again and she freaked the first time he did tjhat to her. poor woman fell to the floor crying with her hands over her entire face, but she showed her courage by standing up and going for the walk anyway when her husband left the room. i just felt for her.
*Gino loved her. I don?t recall anything specific that suggested that Gino married her for money though we may have license to think that may have been a consideration. But despite his behaviour towards her, which was determined by culture and not by his sentiments, there?s ample evidence that he did, in fact, love her. That?s partly what makes him interesting, he wasn?t a meanie, per se, and the way he tried to shake her back to life tells us something too.*
then why did he cheat on her? i would like to know how she figured tht out myself, but anyways, heehee!, or was that what they all did back then? i really dont know so i can assume, but if i really loved someone i wouldnt cheat on them. or am i missing the point, sometimes i tend to do that. heehee! but they really did look happy together, thats what i couldnt understand....after she said to her little daughter in that letter that she was more miserable than she had ever been before, when she was having the baby, Gino went to her side and she put her hand on his head and they talked sweet to each other and then they kissed before he lefted the room. thats what got me. it really sounded weird when Gino told her he had been praying for a boy and then she answered him with, "youre a boy yourself." he said back," we will be brothers." why would he think that of his own son? well laater in the movie i think he realized that it was his own son, but then it was just weird he said that.
ill answer the rest after class. tootles!
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*Oh, horrific, you do use choose the right word a lot. The French call it le mot juste. But I need not to learn from anyone, I have a sword and I sail the high seas. My sword is real too, by the way, not like some girlies I know who carry fake machetes in I love lucy purses, jeez. And, I might add, young lady, that pirates do not like to called fussbudgets, thats too sissy, we are terrors of the high seas with our jolly rogers and people quake with fear at the mere thought of us, fussbudget indeed.*
hey, my fake machete is just right for me! if i had anything sharper in my hand i would poke someone's eye out inadvertently silly goose! on second thought i might take that into consideration for a smelly ol' pirate. heehee! just because pirates think "fussbudgets" are too sissy, doesnt mean they actually are. when dealing with little ol' me, youll have to deal with that. heehee!
they call me bette daivs, "the Jezabel" in case you were wondering....not really, but its fun to play her. heehee!
*Teenagers are not supposed to have brain malfunctions. Old people are. Theyre called senior moments So what did you have, a junior moment?*
yup! thats pretty much what happpened. well i wonder if smelly ol' pirates have snior moments...just kidding. heehee! its all rummy's fault!
*I let you go, dont you remember? Once I found out that it was a fake sword you had, you started to cry and said you wanted to quit fighting so you could go home and watch Hannah Montana. So I said okay because I wanted to go to a cave and drink rum.*
you lie! you never let me go! you always tie me up and make me walk the plank leaving me as a damsel in distress so my handsome gary or mr. darcy can compete to save me. heehee! okay okay, thats what i want to happen, so youre a softie and cant leave me tied up, minor detail. heehee! but thats only when your sober though. heehee!
thats okay, danny is coming to the rescue!
*Okay, I?ll go sit in the corner and learn how to spell. Now, let?s see, how does that go again, s-u-p-e-r-d-u-?..*
it isnt used for sulking silly! its used for when you dont know what to say and then extraordinary things happen...its true! i tell no lies. heehee!
*Liver and Lima Beans. Ewwwwwwwww!! When Laffite dies and goes to hell the devil is going to be standing there with a plate of liver and lima beans and say, ?Dinner time. Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!?*
finally i have something on you!! liver and lima beans, well i happen to agree with the liver. yucky. heehee! laffite will never go to...down there....that is unless he kills the innocent damsel in distress. shame on you!
*Because you'll be telling everyone that I'm a softie. In other words, you're being a meanie of sorts, yes? Then you do your muwahahahahah dance just to show everyone you mean business. Or do you think you?re doing me a favor by telling everyone I?m a softie. We pirates have a reputation, you know.*
im telling people this as a favor to them and you! if the people know your a softy, they will go easy on you when they capture you. instead of hanging you, they will just push you off the plank to swim with the gators. heehee! meanwhile ill be doing my muwahaha dance to show them i mean business. heehee!
*You mean you knew that! I thought I was giving you some esoteric info and that you would be very impressed and say, ?My, oh my, laffite, laffite, you are so smart.? Doggone it!*
yes, but you always give me knew and exciting information that i dont know! i learn from you every day!...not good things neccessarily, unless you think drinking and swordfighting is for my good. heehee! you are smarter than i am, thats for surely!
*Whaddya mean there, Miss? I made you hide around the corner up there at the top of this post with my fearsome muwahas. Have your forgotten already? Now you?re calling me a softie again. Do I have to go out there and do a bunch of muhawawa stuff to prove to you that I?m a valiant and fearsome pirate.*
well i havent actually seen you pull out your sword on me yet. heehee!
*Spoken like a true scholar. I just said that to see if you were paying attention. Quite right, the Bard is not interested in fake machetes. Too bad he wasn?t interested in fake poisons. You would like that story a lot better if they were fake. Gee, what made me think you might like it better?*
yes i would like the story lots more if the poison werent real, that way they would fake the death and then they would both wake up again and live happily ever after!
*honestly! who was he rooting for?*
*The Bard had a reputation for impartiality.*
no exactly what i wanted to hear. heehee!
he was for impartiality, but i am for sappy endings!
*Heavens to Betsy, listen to you! You sound like a martial arts scholar. How comes it that a Greer Girl par excellence classic movie lover like you can know so much about that. I thought you just sat around mooning over Gary and Darcy and Greer. I think you should start giving lectures on michelle, cynthia, and Jackie.*
my daddy has every kind of martial arts movie you can think of: Chuck Norris, Jean Claude Van Damme, Jackie Chan, jet Li, Cynthia Rothrock, Michelle Yeoh, Bruce Lee, Steven Seagal, Mark Dacascos, Bolo Yeung, Sammo Hung Kam-Bo, Anita Mui, and everyone else in between. i sort of grew up watching all of them. im not the expert on them, my parents know more than i do, but i enjoy watching them everyonce in a while with them.
*Singing songs of fair, like it says in your poem. Don?t you remember your poem, silly one! Poets are supposed to remember their poems. You rise from the sea and suspend yourself in air while you sing beautiful songs just like in The Knight and Knave of Swords, the book. See?*
well excuse me! ill remember to remember my poems next time. goodness! a girl forgets a couple lines and the next thing you know someone's making her walk the plank.
*Does you mama know you?re watching stuff like this.*
its only a Disney show. yes she does know it, but she doesnt seem to mind too much....she thinks Billy Ray cyrus is cute. heehee!
*Talk about ranky stanky. I am like Pigpen. I am affixed with the stink of many ages. If I take a bath I?ll lose my historicity, my historee-iness, my historicality?well, you know. You wouldn?t want that to happen, wouldja? It?s real easy to get used to it. All you have to do is hold your nose all the time.*
then i wouldnt be able to breathe! i think you can take a bath, b/c you want girls to give you hugs dont you? girls dont like when their pirates smell ranky stanky. heehee!
*Actually she did. She sent me an email and said, ?Darcy doesn?t have me on hold, you stupid! It?s just like my best fan ButterScotch Theresa says, Darcy and I love each other, so there, nyah . I have half a mind to send darcy over there to punch you in the nose but he?s out in the back yard practicing his archery because he?s such a bad shot.?*
thats better! but darcy was just being modest for her. he really can shoot ya know.
*ButterScotch, ButterScotch, I cannot tell a lie. There is no suspense whatsoever if I know what?s going to happen. Maybe they?ll have true interactive movies in the future and let the viewer help decide what happens on screen. Or do they have those things nowadays, called video games?*
well where's the fun in that? honestly! you need to learn how to forget a movie. heehee! im not going there with video games. goodness! my family is mostly made up of boys so i know what video games are. golly!
*I put ?incorrigible? in that word game in General Discussions but you were apparently not logged on to answer it. You were probably doing something useful, like playing tennis, or something.*
actually i was practing waving around my fake machete. heehee!
*The mawahah one, of course. But you?re a softie just like I am, you?re too much of a sweetybudget to be a real mawahaha girl. For one thing, your evil laugh is too squeaky and you have a fake machete. You?re a pretty good jinxy girl when it comes to football games, though. You?re doing quite well there. (Anyone who follows football games will tell you ps: I am a Bolt fan, argh!)*
well im sorry, but i cant help if my evil laugh is squeaky. im a girl remember! heehee! maybe i should rephrase that.. im not bea arthur. heehee! im surely her evil laugh is much better than mine. my parents went to the football game this weekend (UT vs. SCU) i think...UT won that game. apparently the entire stadium was full. i wouldnt know, b/c i went to ACL(Austin City Limits) this weekend. but apparently i didnt jinxy that game! so there! heehee!
*Uh oh, it?s blushy blush blush time, no blushing aloud. You did really good on that Helen presentation and the boxed set. The cd cover and your explanations were great! Thanks for doing it. I see now that those are TV presentations of some playhouse programs. I did not look carefully enough when I went on imbd to check it out. You are right about that plot for ?The Changeling,? some reviewers were saying how difficult the plot was to follow. Those things she did for television are available on Netflix but only one at a time. I can?t get the whole thing like you have. So I?ll pick one at random and have a look?unless you have one that you?ve seen that you would like to recommend. If so, tell me which one and I?ll order it.*
thank you!! okay here's the one you NEED to see! i think you will love it!! The Little Minister (1975). i love it love it love it!! its one of my favorites from helen on TV. she got me talking Scottish/Shakespearean at the same time with that movie. heehee! she is so gorgeous in it too. this is actually a rare case in which i love the remake... kate hepburn did the version in 1934 and i loved that version. i just love kate's acting, but i also love the 1975 version with helen. oh she did awesomely, seriously, i think you will like it. i just love how they laid out the 1975 version with the script and the mannerisms of the characters. its too cute!....unless you would like to watch The Changeling first. im okay with either, but i like The Little Minister better plotwise.
i love the lucy van pelt picture. cute! i still think she and you make a lively couple.heehee!
*But wait! Listen now, here?s how it would go (now pay attention, Frank Capra, move over). She would say, ?Oh, how could you, how could you, you put me in this asylum when all I could do is think of my dear beloved Smithy,? and he would say, ?But, precious Paula, please forgive me. When I did that I was trapped in the body of someone named Charles who knew nothing of the most lovely and charming woman that ever lived, and that of course is you, the sweetest angel the world has ever known. Why even the sun is jealous when you open the window in the morning and look out and bless the world with the most loveliest ray of beauty that ever was and ever will be. But I, Charles, a stranger to the loveliness that is you, behind the barrier of an insidious amnesia that kept me from you, could not but be ignorant of the fact that the woman I was committing was none other than my beloved Paula of whom the very sun, the giver of life, shrinks with envy at the beholden of my dear angel. But when I cracked my head on that blasted pavement out there, I became Smithy and remembered, yes remembered, that I, the most wretched of men, put behind these bars, my one and only, my life, my Paula, that must go down as the most egregious of acts, by the most wretched of men, knowing now as I do, what a thing I did. So will you forgive me, my most precious one, my sweet, my dearest Paula, the love of my life, the envy of all, the most precious creature ever created, that even God Almighty is jealous, yes He, of his own wonderful creation, that is mine, my dearest beloved, my own sweet Paula. And here I am, crazy as a loon, just like you, and we can live happily ever after in this crazy house, ?cause we are so crazy about each other.? And then she?ll say, ?Oh Smithy, Oh Smithy, Oh Smithy,? about a hundred times. And then in the next scene, they?ll be a baby. We don?t need to see the how of it because these things just happen in sappy movies like this. And they lived happily ever after. The End.*
you got it all mixed up! great intetions, but you did it wrong! heehee! a little less craziness and drama, and just more hugs and kisses, and then ill be happy. they HAVE to show the baby too. its a must! heehee!
*Well what do you think. Should I eschew this grisly life of a pirate and go to Hollywood and write screenplays?*
youre getting there!
*Yes, I know. We were all waiting for him to say that most important thing, ?Oh, by the way, Margaret, I?ve been meaning to tell you, you look just like this woman I once knew, her name was?oh, what was it now?Pauleen, or Palo Alto, or something like that. Anyway, most uncanny the resemblance. What did I think of her? Well, she was sort of?whatever. Well, have a good time in the country.?*
i dont think he would do that! if he did recognize her, he wouldnt let her go on that train. even though he didnt get it anyway and she was going off, didnt you see it in their eyes? both of them had it as they were looking at each other! holy joe! he would have kept her in his arms and hugged her so tight if he would have actually recognized her.
*I know, I know, just kidding?I risk my life I say something bad about that movie you love so much.*
you better believe it! if you had said one more word, i would have threatened you with my fake machete!
*There was once a man who was Smithy*
*Who could talk but was nevertheless quite pithy*
*Came along Paula divine*
*He now talked all the time*
*And they fell so much in love in a jiffy.*
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!! thats so cute! i love that one!!!! well if you arent ready for screen writing, youre ready for song writing!
*Hey, thanks for the butterscotch candy picture. I could have eaten them wrapper and all. Today I went to the store and tried to buy some of those Brach?s, but they didn?t have any. I did buy some butterscotch pudding though. I have forgotten about butterscotch over the years. What a great flavor!*
how could anyone forget the flavor of butterscotch?! honestly, thats like forgetting how ice cream tastes...well for me anyway. heehee!
*Rum? Did someone say rum? Hello? I thought I heard rum. Is my day of abstention up?*
*There is a great gelato place near me, I?ll have to look for that butter rum.*
no noone said anything about rummy, he can just go back to his hiding place! no filthy drunken beasts around me yet! heehee!
let me know how the butter rum tastes!
*Yes, but those are only dreams. Muwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!*
ruin it for me why dont ya! heehee!
*But, but, she?s not real either. She?s in a movie. Princess Diana was real. (but I know what you mean )*
no buts! she is too real! noone can convince me otherwise! so thou can goist throw thyself into the fake poison. heehee!
*"Virtue*
*Can hurt you."*
thanks for putting that in my head for the rest of the day. heehee!
*Well, I thought you might know a few of those, since you were practicin? Sinatree songs. In my speech class in college, we had 50 people in the class. The next meeting there were only 12. She scared the heck out of us by telling us what a fussbudget she was going to be. She had to cut the class down to size because it was too large.*
i do know them! that story is funny! heehee! my speehc teacher tried to do the same, but he ended up being a great teacher and everyone actually enjoys his class. he cant fool us, he's a softire underneath it all...like you! the other day he told us all to stand up and tell the person next to us to happy birthday to my teacher, and before we said it to each other he told him happy birthday altogether! he was so surprised! heehee! not a normal college class, you'd think. heehee! then he promptly asked us what kind of speech it was. of course we all got it right. heehee!
*If you?re going to freeze when you get asked a question in speech class, should you take a sweater.*
you present a great point there!
*Okay, then, it?s all her fault. But thanks to her you are knowledgeable about movies and your life is enriched for it (as I?m sure you realize). ?Cept when you watch michelle and cynthia and those stinky ole episodes of Hannah.*
what it when yore mentioning michelle and cynthia! hannah montana is cute! im surely there are other 18 year olds who watch that show for the heck of it.
*When I was five, they didn?t have movies.*
know dont you start lighting your pants on fire too! thats frankie's job!
*Goo, goo. Goo, goo. Maman, maman, donne-moi un bon bon. Goo goo,*
*J?ai faim, j?ai faim, wah wah, whaaaaaaah?goo goo google goo. Goo?*
pure shakespear darlin'.
*Remember when we were talking about Bacall and Bennett. And so I leave with this. Does this picture mean anything to you?*
hey i know that picture! you sly pirate you!
tootles for now
theresa
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not finished yet. heehee!
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*Bonjour Jeune Fille Extraordinaire*
bonjour mon gentille pirate!
*Okay, I can take it. Nothing but Gator Ade today. (Ugh. Pirates don?t like the word Gator. Captain Hook, you know.) I know you won?t mind though if I have a little wine. I have some goody goody stuff that I plundered down in Jamaica?and I just have some with me?I?m sure you won?t mind, heh heh?right?*
ooh ooh what kind of wine is it? no, no, no! i wont allow it! it can be gulped down just as easily as your rummy! no! im hiding that too! and to think that i was going to take pity on you for your hand being eaten. heehee!
*Oh you are a clever one ButterScotchGreer, what are we supposed to make of that ?maybe? you hooked on the end. Like maybe he did something else like, uh, you know...or something?oh, oh, oh, you are the witty one.*
well i thought i would leave it open for any funny thoughts. i love seeing people use their imaginations. its so exciting! you especially have an imagination i must say! honestly! heehee!
*If you keep this up we may have to take your butterscotch candies away. (actually it?s kind of sweet)*
thats not fair! hey, at least my butterscotch candies get me going throughout the day and dont get me drunk like your rummy does! why, the impertenence! heehee! you hacvent the right to take my butterscotch away from me!.....i draw my fake machete on you!
*And those were itty bitty ones. Wait?ll you really do something really bad, nightmares galore for ButterS.*
GASPS!!!! im gonna sick judy davis on you! and yes i just saw Where Angels Fear to tread. i was just trying to figure out how to plug that in here. heehee!
okay i have to tell you what i thought of it..........if you dont mind that is. heehee!
some of this may be some what of a spoiler for where angels Fear to Tread, for other who are reading this
when i started the movie, immidiately i got to se helen at the train station and i was all excited and she was soooo BEAUTIFUL!!! but as i watched it more and more, my excitement decreased in size. seriously, first i got mad at Phillip, for trying to stop her from marying her love, but then i got mad at the Italian...he was mean to my helen! this was the first movie i had seen with Helena Bonham Carter as a normal character. heehee! i thought she was very sweet actually, but i was somewhat confused with her character toward the middle of the movie. i never got if she was some sort of relation or just good friends with Lilia(helen). when Lilia was having the baby, you could see she was so miserable and sad with her life and her husband Gino was so cruel to her. he, basically in my eyes, abused her. i didnt get it. he was cheating on her, yet he wanted to keep her locked away like some precious valuable. but i think he really did love her, just not as a man would know how to love. he was a mere boy and didnt know how to love yet. i was in tears when she died after handing the baby to him. i mean its like she just gave up; she couldnt handle it anymore, and you could tell right then that he did love her, but only to an extent. when Caroline told Phillip that Gino was only after Lilia's money and didnt care at all about the baby, i dont think that was all the way true.
Lilia's in-law family were all wackos. they basically all treated Lilia like she wasnt alive, they didnt even acknowledge her to her own daughter when she got married or had a baby. you didnt lie when you said they were great fussbudgets. phew! heehee! i was on pins and needles the whole time! you see what happens when you get greedy and kidnap a baby. honestly, that judy davis! i got so sad when it happened. i had momma watch this with me, and when caroline said, "phillip, would you rather the baby be in a home where he is loved, but brought up wrong, or be in a home where he isnt loved, but brought up right?" thats line made momma's eyebrows raise and i said," wow! thats an interesting line." its still bothering me. heehee! what i couldnt understand was that caroline ended up falling in love with Gino. how did that happen? goodness me!
i have a question for you. when Lilia was telling Phillip, "this time i marry for love" do you really think she loved Gino? and did that mean that she didnt love her late husband? i got confused!
i understood what you meant by this movie having gorgeous music. it was breathtaking and the opera scene was hilarious! i loved the song she was singing. i wonder what its called, if its a real song. i am going to get this soundtrack sometime! i love the musical score!
all in all, it was a pretty interesting story, with GREAT acting, but i didnt like how it ended.it wasnt my usual beautiful sappy ending. heehee! granted it is a great movie to watch over and over again as long as im ready for fussbudget extremes. heehee! helen was even in it longer than i expected and i loved that!
i have to go to class, ill post the rest after okay.
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*In a way, I find him more attractive when he's older. He's more serious and rugged.*
*Have you seen Devil's Doorway? That's my favorite of his later westerns.*
i like Devil's doorway, but not as much as some of his other ones, b/c there isnt as strong of a romance plot in it. i wanted it to be stronger, but his acting is great and i would consider it one of his best westerns!
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thats a good one! i love those commercial. he's so cute!
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*I saw it for the first time a couple of weeks ago.*
oh really? what did you think of it? robert taylor can be cute even when he got older! heehee!
*My day has been not too bad. How about yours? Anything exciting happening?*
other than a test in speech class, nothing really exciting yet. heehee!
did you bother your boss until he gave you the good stuff? heehee!
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*There you are! Did you see my little otters? Aren't they darling?*
here i am! i saw them, they are toooooo cute! aawwwwwwww!!! now all we need is the little Geico gecko....my little gecko. he is too cute! he can communicate with otters.
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*I watched it on TCM and I liked it a lot. Wasn't he trying to pass himself off as a farmer or something like that, someone with no experience with guns?*
glenn tries to pass himself off as a store keeper in that small town. he tells everyone he has no clue how to handle a gun, but when he gets drunk, he all the sudden pops up from nowhere and finds a gun and challenges everyone in the town. when he's sober he has very strick rules against using his gun just for the heck of it to show off.
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*Nice caps, ButterTea! Is The Law and Jake Wade a favorite of yours?*
i havent seen it very many times dahlink, but i remember watching it a few times at grandmama's house. i completely forgot about it, and when Michaela just jogged my memory i remember a lot from the movie, but there are still parts i cant remember. i wish i couldm, so im going back to grandmama's house to watch it again.
how's your day been?
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ooh yes, like the Fastest Gun Alive with Glenn Ford, who plays the fast ex-gunman trying to run away from his past and start a new begining with his pregnant wife (jeanne crain). unfortunately he doesnt get very far with trying to conceal his secret. they make such a cute couple too!!!
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*He's really good in it - a lawman with a crooked past*
thats what i like about that movie. there are a few movies with that sort of plot going, but not many. i love it when they have a secret in their past, but they are good now and thats all that matters.
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hey dahlink april!! how have you been today? we seem to be missing each other on here.
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hey Michaela, i found a pic from Scandal at Scourie!
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screencaps from The Law and Jake Wade:
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*What do you think about adding Jimmy Stewart in Destry Rides Again ?*
i actually had that one in my mind when i requested if i could make the list. im such a ducky! heehee! i cant believe i forgot jimmy!
*And would it make a huge difference for purposes of this list whether someone is a sheriff or a marshall? I'm thinking about Robert Taylor in The Law and Jake Wade, but I think he was a marshall, not a sheriff.*
i havent seen The Law and Jake Wade in such a long time! i remember that movie only vaguely. i wish i could see it again. i remember liking him in it though. back to grandmama's house i go! heehee!
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hey Michaela!
*Hi Theresa - I'm glad to know you also like this song. I can't believe it's been such a long time since I heard it.*
isnt it a good song? i love it!