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Are you Mercedes McCambridge?
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*Where IS that Mad Hat MOLO??????? He has not shown up for a ramble in these here parts for quite a spell now... I guess my rope and me will have a little work ahead of us... if'n he doesn't show up soon.*
I have it on good authority that you will be hearing from him very shortly.
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Hi there Frank,
*Ohhh, my goodness, I'm Lyman... without Nurse Kelly!*
Haaaa!
*Now that killed me! I do admit, I'm on the "Harvey isn't real" side of the aisle.*
Well I guess there are two schools of thought out there.
Do you feel that Elwood believes Harvey is real in a literal sense. I still can't get past Veta and Dr. Chumley both having dealings with Harvey as well. It's an interesting difference in the way we view the film. I am one of those people who tends to believe in everything no matter how fantastic. It drives my more logical friends nuts because I'm otherwise a pretty logical person myself. I don't have any (real) proof of it but I want to believe. *That was beautiful, and I think it really speaks to the heart of the film. Most of us*
*get caught up in chasing things that we believe will bring us "happiness" and many of us*
*end up losing sight of all the happiness that can be easily found all around us, every*
*day. Sure, some of us are more fortunate than others in certain areas of life, but not all.*
Now here we agree. I think that is the heart of the film. I also think that message really attracts people. They want to be reminded of this. People might not hold on to the message but after watching the film, you can't help but do a little self evaluating. It's universally human and very appealing.
*My brother has told me about a mentally-challenged man who works with him. This man*
*always lights up whenever he sees my brother and they end up talking about things like*
*older television shows (70s and 80s) and toys. Yes, this man is a boy. I always tell my*
*brother, all I'd ever need to feel good about life is to spend one moment with a person*
*like that. It's also how I feel about young children. Just give me a moment with them, and*
*I will feel better.*
I can really understand that. When the great-grandchildren come to visit my mom, it's like all her anxieties and pains melt away. She gets this big smile on her face. I wonder sometimes that after they leave, does a sadness creep in? I feel there is a joy of being in the moment and a melancholy that tries to take hold when the moment has passed. I guess the trick is to try and stay in the moment.
When Elwood is in the alley talking to Sanderson and Miss Kelly, he is pondering the past. Indeed, Sanderson encourages this. In the Doctor's view you have to reflect to heal.
*That is exactly how I feel about Elwood: the loss of his mother has greatly affected*
*him. And I believe you are correct, I don't think Elwood ever mentions his mother. That's*
*a nice catch.*
I think it is telling that Elwood never mention's his mother, yet we get the sense, listening to others; that it was a terrible loss for him. Elwood cannot dwell on it. He must try to stay in the moment. Harvey is there to fill the void.
*I do believe Elwood drinks but is no longer a drunk. Although, do we ever seen him take*
*a drink?*
This is another interesting aspect to me. I always took Elwood's drinking in stride but I would agree that he isn't necessarily a drunk. I don't think we ever see him take a drink. We do see him reorder though. Also who do you think is drinking Harvey's martinis?
*I do believe Elwood was a drunk before but Ed Hickey's being "spiffed" woke him*
*up. But I wouldn't disagree with you saying he's still an alcoholic. Can a drunk all of a*
*sudden drink in moderation?*
I'm not sure. I would certainly say it's not a common occurrence. AA is founded on the principle that you can't.
You brought up some very interesting points with regard to Elwood's drinking and how Harvey fits into all that. I still think social drinking is a "simple pleasure" to Elwood and something in life he enjoys. Taking it too far and being an out and out drunk wouldn't be very pleasant at all. I thought what you and Jackie said about Elwood heading down that road or even already being a drunk, and Harvey picking that time to appear made a lot of sense. Maybe with Harvey looking after him he has struck a balance with his drinking.
*Many people judge others on the quick, especially those talking to imaginary "people."*
Well you have a point there.
*I could share one opinion with many different people and they all would quickly process*
*that opinion and make a judgment on me. Is it a final judgment? It all depends.*
So you think Aunt Ethel may be ringing up Veta later with questions? Do you think she just needs time to process what has happened and that she might learn to accept Elwood's peculiarity to some degree? I think it is a shock and she has made a quick judgment. I never really thought about what she might do regarding Elwood once she exits.
*That's an excellent point, and one I didn't think of. Mrs. Chumley's ignorance is bliss. Her*
*not knowing allows her to remain happy. Interesting.*
Well it's a thought. The way she interacts with her husband and her general demeanor have always suggested to me that she is unaware of that side of her husband. I'm not even sure how successful Dr. Chumley is in his philandering.
*That's an interesting point, too. Does she actually think her husband is being dismissive of*
*her or does she view that as him being him? That's who he is, so she accepts that. Hmmm...*
When Dr. Chumley tells Elwood of his desire to go to Akron and not wanting the woman to talk, just beer and poor thing, well what does that say about him and his relationship to Mrs. Chumley? These are areas of the film that I haven't delved into that deeply but I have always noticed them on a surface level. I was always struck by how pleasant Mrs. Chumley seemed, how in their one scene together, the Doctor somewhat ignores her and takes her car. (Granted he has important things on his mind) and how he fantasizes of Akron, beer, and women who can't talk.
*But here's the thing, Elwood doesn't tell her who Harvey is. He only tells her that he's a*
*"pooka." His missing friend is a pooka. What the heck is a pooka? If she were introduced*
*to Harvey, would she have reacted like Aunt Ethel? Again, what we don't know... That seems*
*to be what Mrs. Chumley's role is in the film.*
That is a good point. I also like the idea of Mrs. Chumley and what we don't know. Interesting.
*And you know what's next from me...*
Well this is a whole new can of beans isn't it? Ha! I think that screencap you used is perfect. Veta mentions the word "sex" more than anyone in the film. Maybe she's the only one who does say the word. Veta seems to have definite opinions about it and also some issues with it. I've never seen all that much romantic in her relationship with the Judge though. I'm very interested in your take on this.
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Lynn,
Those are soooo funny!
I'll offer up my memories as best as I can sort them out.*Gloria and Molo At the Circus*
*A circus comes to town and tragedy ensues. With the help of # 3 son, Larry ?Bud? Molo, Gloria and Molo uncover some shady dealings in their City by the Bay.*
*Includes the famous trapeze act with Gloria and Molo.*
I was always concerned that Larry "Bud" would let his success in the series go to his head. Thank goodness Gloria knew how to keep him grounded. I'll admit that with my fear of heights, the trapeze act was challenging but I never let on to Gloria. I'm proud it remains popular. I still get letters commenting on it.
*High Heels in the Fog*
*The City by the Bay?s District Attorney asks Gloria and Molo for help. Gloria and Molo investigate and discover that there is a bigger evil than the Big Man Himself.*
*Guest Stars include Harry Carey, Sr as the District Attorney, Ben Johnson (in a rare modern role) as the crusading ADA and Frank Fane as the shadow of evil (uncredited)*
Gloria always felt most at home in these grittier entries. She seemed to use them as some kind of emotional outlet. The casting was superb here. I was a little worried about working with Fane. He often had a lousy disposition but we figured he wanted to stay in character. He became so identified with the role we had to ask him back.
*Gloria and Molo On the Case*
This was of course an all star blockbuster. Gloria was worried about sharing all the billing and we had a bit of battle, but I just brought up "Shiftless' and she was quickly and totally on board with it all.
*Guest stars include: Warner Oland as Charlie Chan, Peter Lorre as Mr. Moto, William Powell and Myrna Loy as Nick and Nora.*
*Includes the hilarious rendition of ?There Ain?t Nothing Like Dame? by Molo, Chan, Moto and Nick Charles. Special lyrics by Sammy Cahn*
Oh the memories! I hear Larry "Bud' has a reel of outtakes. Maybe they will put 'em on the DVD.
*Mother Molo to the Rescue*
*Long thought ?lost? classic. As Gloria and Molo face certain death at the hands of the Biggest Evil Ever, Mother Molo shrewdly shows up to make a tempting offer.*
*Moral of the story, never play cards or smoke stogies with this dame:*
*Guest stars Maria Ouspenskaya as Mother Molo, Frank Fane as the Biggest Evil.*
I was so happy this was found. Not sure how it ended up at Chumley's Rest. Ouspenskaya was a pleasure to work with and her scenes with Fane have a powerful humor and intensity that never seems dated. Gloria and I were thrilled when she signed on and when Oscar nominations were announced we were both so angry at the academy that year.
*The Sons Also Rise*
Gloria and I were skeptical but Larry "Bud' was confident and it wasn't half bad.
*Was supposed to be an on-going series for the teen market but plans were scuttled when GYP studios went mysteriously out of business after the box-office success of this film.*
I remember the investigation into all that but would rather not comment further.
*Life with Molo*
*The Glolos autobiography about growing up with Gloria and Mollo. Slated to go into production later this summer.*
I didn't really think this was necessary but the Glolos are good kids. We did our best for them. I've only ever asked that they remain kind to their mother.
*I Remember Molo*
*Gloria?s heart rendering but best selling autobiography about her life with her one twue love, the Mighty Molo. Includes a revealing chapter on her encounter with Shiftless Sam. Soon to be a major motion picture.*
Well look, I'm from the "old school" where you kept private things private. I'm not sure Gloria ever wanted that thing published but the kids say they know best these days. It was a most powerful love and a great life. I hold no bitterness, only regret that there couldn't be more. I even occasionally feel bad for "Shiftless" after he spiraled out of control and met that grisly end down south of the border.
*The Glowettes*
*After the success of the Glolos fades on Broadway, the three sisters in the act leave the Great White Way and form a girl group. They have a number #1 hit on the Billboard charts with their rendition of ?Glow Little Glow Worm".*
It's a tough business. Gloria and I couldn't always be there to watch over them. We only wished for their happiness.
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That is correct. Your turn now.
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Thanks cmvgor,
Their final resting place is inscribed with the words Together Again.
Who are they?
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Another question;
By film, speaker and circumstances, identify the source of this sentiment:
"Well, you can't dance to Beethoven."
In the film *Running on Empty*, Danny Pope (River Phoenix) has a talent and understanding of music. He has assumed the identity of "Michael" and arrives at his new music class. His teacher plays a classical piece and a Madonna song. He asks the class to explain the difference between the two. Your quote is Danny's reply.
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Lynn,
I love it!!
Those are all great. What a great team we made. Why would Gloria even bother wasting her time with the likes of Ray, Dmytryk, Lang, Mitchum, and Bogie??? This series is both high art and box office gold.
*All is going well until Molo dons a particularly misshapen hat and Gloria's head is turned by that cad, Shiftless Sam.*
I just never understood the problem with the hat!!! Darn that Shiftless Sam!
*Gloria plays a stunning seductress who abandons Molo when she falls for Shiftless Sam and ends up on the wrong side of love.*
Oh the heartbreak!! Sometimes you have to taste the bitter to really appreciate the sweet.
*She discovers that he is not doing well at Chumley's Rest Home and rushes to his side. With her tender loving ways, she restores Molo to health.*
All is forgiven Gloria!!
Wow! Tough times! It was a hard road back. I shed more tears than Frank Grimes at a Greer Garson film festival! *Gloria and Molo's Big Heat aka Gloria and Molo Get Married*
*Due to the Production Code, this film had to be retitled. It's the charming story of the travails that Gloria and Molo experience on their way to the altar.*
*Co-stars Henry Travers as the Minister and S.K. Sakall as the caterer*
This might be my favorite! Kind of a screwball comedy, I think. Those were the salad days. Gloria couldn't keep her hands off "Cuddles" cheeks though.
*Gloria and Molo Go Hollywood*
Move over Mickey and Judy! Gloria really shines here. What a voice! What moves! My magic tricks killed 'em.
*Gloria and Molo's Glass Wall*
*Gloria and Molo's Naked Alibi*
*Gloria and Molo's Odds Against Tomorrow*
*Gloria, Molo and the Man Who Never Was*
*The Seven Little Glolo's*
HAAA! These are all wonderful!! The Glolo's cracked me up. This is powerful stuff! A soft-shoe with Cagney, battling evil doers, dealing with the post war era, Vegas and the Rat Pack. You are a natural scenarist! Does Hollywood know what they are missing???
Thanks so much. These are priceless. They really made my day.
Eat your heart out Grimes! You know you're jealous!
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Lynn,
Bring your Gloria movie ideas over here. This thread is for all things Gloria. We can jabber over here and it will keep the thread warm until Frank writes his thoughts on *In A Lonely Place.* That could be a very long time!
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*I think Gloria's lasting regret was not picking that Pooka.* - CineMaven
*Aaah, what might have been...*
Hey! Was that a jab?
Well...why... uh.....well...oh....darn it...you're probably right...
Lynn,
I was with you all the way until you brought in that "Shiftless" character. We can do without him. He's poor box office anyway. I will be monitoring your schedule closely. Glad to see CineMaven taking part too. Now don't tell me Grimes is gonna play. I'll eat my Mad Hat!
*Hey, I've seen this one. This is the one where Gloria guns down Whosits and runs off with Molo. Terrific ending.* - Frank Grimes
Yes that was followed by *Molo and Gloria go to Rio and spend Grimes' Money.*
That was always my favorite. Carmen Miranda does a cameo.
I will probably just be voting. I don't have the courage to do a schedule yet.
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Why has a two year old argument been bumped by Boop????
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You're welcome. I'm glad that helped. Maybe someone else knows more about it and can tell us if there is another way to do it..
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Hi Kyle,
The menu that determines your dvr settings is the same as your program or "guide" menu. It's set up as a grid of time slots. A film scheduled for 5:00pm through 7:00pm will be recorded for that long by the dvr unless you manually manipulate it to start earlier or end later. The film info on the guide may state that a film's run time is 111 minutes long. Such as:
Gloria Visits Molo - 1947 Starring Gloria Grahame
A sexy femme fatale visits a lonely message board user. NR 111min.
But it will show up in the grid menu as 5:00pm to 7:00pm and that is what the dvr will record, so you may get the end of the film, plus a "word of mouth" or short subject before 7:00pm comes around.
So the answer to your first two questions is no. The answer to your last question is yes. Sometimes a film scheduled to end at 7:00pm will run over to say 7:03pm and the dvr doesn't know this and shuts off at 7:00pm cutting off the ending. This happens a lot when TCM is crowding their schedule with 75 minute slots and showing films that run 74 to 77 minutes. You have to check those run times and manually adjust as necessary. Does that make sense?
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Hi,
When you record a program and it asks you to confirm it. I think it is on this screen that you have the option of extending the "end time". Can you manipulate the end time from that screen by using your menu controls? It will automatically want to stop the program at it's end time of 8:00pm for example but you should be able to change that end time by using the menu arrows and going to the the end time and manually extending it to anywhere from a few minutes like say 8:04pm to a few hours like maybe 11:15pm. When the program does end, you press my dvr and select "stop recording now".
This is how my comcast dvr works anyway. Hope that helps and sorry if that wasn't very clear.
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Fred is right. The DVR only records for the allotted time on the schedule. TCM occasionally runs over the allotted time. A network show that is scheduled at 9:00pm might run until 10:02pm for instance. I have comcast and those kind of overuns by the major networks are always programmed into my cable menu so the dvr will pick it up. With TCM it isn't that precise. Movies are almost always listed as ending on the hour, half hour or quarter hour.
I always double check a film's actual running time against the film's scheduled time and make necessary adjustments. What is even more unusual is for a film to start early. Last Sunday's Silent Sunday Night film *The Phantom Carriage* had a running time of 107 minutes stuck in a 105 minute time slot, from 12:15am to 2:00am. Plus they had the introduction by Robert Osborne and his closing comments. The intro actually started early and I think the film started rolling at 12:14am. That took me by suprise.
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Hello fellow Gloria fans!
Did we ever discuss *Macao* here? I know we talked a little bit about it way back in this thread but I can't remember if we ever really got into it.
I alway thought that *Macao* was a good example of Gloria shining in a supporting role. She is sexy, enigmatic and cool as a cucumber, I have read some critics who think she is too restrained here, even a little wooden. I disagree. Mitchum's Nick Cochran says she reminds him of the Sphinx. It's an apt assessment. Gloria's Margie keenly observes events around her and understands that sometimes the smartest thing a girl can do is keep her mouth shut.
*Gloria Grahame keeping score in Macao*
She toys with Mitchum, telling him how good the rice is when he wants information. Margie sees that Russell's Julie is a potential threat but she doesn't act impulsively. I like how she tells Julie that Nick spent the night in her room, and the look on Nick's face. Yes, there's a playful side to Margie. Still, she has learned how to survive in complex and dangerous situations. She sees the big picture and knows when to play her hand. Yet she never seems hardened by her circumstances Just a realistic gal, who likes nice things and has enough healthy cynicism to see her through the rough spots.
*Macao* is an enjoyable Mitchum/Russell pairing with a good supporting cast including William. Bendix. It's a film that rises a few notches with the addition of Grahame. It's a role any capable actress might have played but Grahame makes it memorable.
*Human Desire* is coming up in June. Maybe we can have a discussion about it after it plays on TCM.
Oh and Frank, let's keep pushing Gloria for a Summer Under the Stars spot. TCM keeps some of her films in constant rotation but they haven't added a new (to TCM) one in a while. Perhaps *Blonde Fever* , *Naked Alibi* , *Roughshod* , *Ride Out for Revenge* , *Prisoner of the Casbah* or maybe others? How about it "tcmprogrammr"?
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Hi,
When you indent on this board the message will not appear in your post. It's just one of the quirks you have to get used to.
Message was edited by: molo14 because TCMWebAdmin kindly fixed your post.
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She was indeed great. This is very sad news. She was always a welcomes presence in anything she did. There were many times when I really needed a laugh and she provided. I was a big fan.
She will be missed.
Rest in peace dear lady.
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Hi Bronxie,
I think the important thing to remember when watching TCM all night is to keep the caffeine flowing and remember to eat something sweet at least every 15 minutes. Any interval longer than that could allow the sugar coma to kick in.
Now before Fred gets his shotgun and runs us off his thread, we can talk about *Mr. and Mrs. North* here:
http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?threadID=142244&tstart=0
Ollie, is already there. Watch out for those rotton tomatoes!
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Sorry I forgot the links:
*Between Two Worlds*:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036641/
*Outward Bound*:
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Hi,
It is called *Between Two Worlds* from 1944. There was an earlier version called *Outward Bound* made in 1930.
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Hi April,
Thank you. That was nice of you to say.
Hi CineMaven,
I will give her the hug!
Hi Mongo,
We convinced mom years ago that you can't take it with you. At 86 years old, she has taken most of it somewhere else. I'll be on the lookout for any suspicious correspondence from Florida.
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I agree with what Scottman said.
She sailed through those early films with confidence. She is hilarious and she made sex, or at least the idea of it, seem like naughty, harmless fun. It was okay to laugh about and enjoy it. Her own image of herself and the image the audience had of her may never have been the same, but there is no doubt that it grew further apart as her career progressed.
I have never been a fan of her performance in *My Little Chickadee*. In Robert Osborne's introduction last night he mentioned that it was generally panned and that Mae was too serious. I would agree. West has a couple of moments but Fields steals the film and what I like of the film has to do with him. I think she may have miscalculated here. What could have been a great comeback was turned into a setback.
I can't imagine what went on during that production, with Fields and West at loggerheads, and each writing the script. The scene in the train where West is shooting at the Indians seems to have the surreal qualities of one of Field's films and West doesn't really give it anything, though she gets the main part of the scene.
I thought she looked uncomfortable most of the time. I don't know if she knew quite how to play off of Fields and still make it work for her. It may have required a reinvention of her character and that is something she never wanted to do. While the pairing has a definite appeal, perhaps it was a mistake for West to agree to it in the first place. Despite the promise of good box office it really didn't do her any good.
Mae West was quite a character and she became and remained that character throughout her long life. I think it was a wonderful character and I feel lucky to be able to go back and visit those early films as much as I want. She became a legend in her own time but time passed her by and I don't think she ever came to terms with that.
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I just want to say again that I thought this was a great event for TCM and for the community here as well. Congratulations to all the guest programmers.
You have heard from Bronxie's mom and, now that it is over, I thought I would, in fun, share some of the musings of my own mom. While not as well known and, unfortunately, not as avid or as discerning a movie watcher, she is known to some of you. Eighty-six years old, fiesty, but very sweet, she was able to catch the intros done by CineMaven, MissGodesss, Mongo and, via dvr, lzcutter.
Mom knows I spend a lot of time on the computer talking to people about movies. She says she doesn't really understand it and it's all too complicated for me. When I told her about the fan programmer week and that some of my online pals would be on television, her interest was raised enough to want to take a look. For a few nights, she put on her glasses and her "tv ears" (she's very hard of hearing), and sat down in front of the television expectantly and watched TCM.
Her general impressions are as follows:
She was impressed by how normal and how old you all were. She seems to have been under the mistaken impression (by reading the newspapers I guess) that the internet is inhabited only by wackos and youngsters and that I spend most of my free time chatting with them.
They must be smart. - She would not elaborate.
They look very nice. - Lynn you also warranted a very sweet.
She thought Robert Osborne looked right handsome. Who is he?
CineMaven, You are the one with very nice handwriting. (Thanks to the elaborately addressed package you sent.) I told her to listen to see if you mentioned Gloria Grahame. She leaned forward intently, despite the tv ears, and pointed to you after you said it. while looking over at me. That made her smile. It was like interactive television.
Mongo, Mom may have been a bit smitten with you. She liked the way you talked. She has always been a fan of Barbara Stanwyck.
MissGoddess, She likes that you picked one she knew something about. She actually managed to watch most of the first half of *Gone With the Wind.* She nodded off eventually though. It was getting very late. She reminded me that she saw it at the Lowes theater downtown when it first came out and that she had read the book .
Lynn, She likes John Wayne movies too. She thinks Westerns are often too sad sometimes though.
So there you have it. Another person heard from.
Take from it what you can.
No need for the rope just yet.
Do you feel that Elwood believes Harvey is real in a literal sense. I still can't get past Veta and Dr. Chumley both having dealings with Harvey as well. It's an interesting difference in the way we view the film. I am one of those people who tends to believe in everything no matter how fantastic. It drives my more logical friends nuts because I'm otherwise a pretty logical person myself. I don't have any (real) proof of it but I want to believe. 
I'll offer up my memories as best as I can sort them out.
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Thank you Lady Eve,
Please try this one.
I had a long career. I was successful on Broadway. My film career spanned 44 years going back to the early silent days. I retired for over ten years but returned during the sound era due to financial difficulties. I also did radio and television work. My last film was directed by John Ford.
Do you know me?