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Hi, ButterscotchGLORIA -- oh lookie lookie what i found....to "torture" frankie! heehee!
It's hard to top Double G's gorgeous brand of torture. Thank you!
Hey, ChiO -- The second there is any kind of structure or guidelines put in place with just about anything, I'm out the door. I'm too much of a wanderer. A very unreliable one, at that.

Here you go, ChiO. F.W. Murnau's Phantom.
















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Ciao, Minya -- I never liked the word "lady". Too matronly and old-fashioned.
I'm with you on this one, as well-not that I don't have any sense of class (she said with a pointed glance in Grimey's direction) but that word was never one I saw in connection with myself.
What's with the pointed glance? You don't think I believe you lack a sense of class, do you now, Trashy? 
I think you just want a Scotsman or an Irishman to whisk you away, Lassie.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
By no means. You can have all the Scots and Irishmen you wish to have. I shall not stand in your way.
That's a step up for me. I'm usually being told, "aller au diable."
Yes, I could see that.
You just couldn't wait to get back to this thread to tell me that, could you?
Welllll, maybe. It's such a great phrase, and one that is used far too little. In general, I mean.
Yeah, right, "in general." "In general," I think you have pretty decent taste. It's the specifics where you start to come apart.
Howdy, Sweet Texas T -- ["Special phrase"? What's so special about it?
its specila, b/c april has a line that actually gets under your skin. heehee!
Your doll talks to you and says bad things about me? Are you okay? By the way, there is one WOMAN on the board who doesn't have to say one little thing to get under me skin. Her powerful, snippy perfume makes my skin crawl.
Of course I do! Do you really expect me to like it? Greer Garson is in it, so there's absolutely no way I can like it. None.
well knowing you......yes i do expect you to like it. heehee! you are a softy underneath the bad boy film noirness. heehee!
I guess you are right because I believe in wedding vows, unlike that homewreckin' Mary Rafferty. She's worse than any femme fatale.
if greer garson is in it, it must be a whopper of a movie and totally worth seeing. wouldnt you whole-heartedly agree with me?
I agree! I love Greer Garson in To Catch a Thief, Rear Window, High Noon, and Mogambo. She's a total sweetheart.
Mr. Collins is my favorite, so I shall call you "Liza," Liza.
but "liza" reminds me of liza minelli, cant you just call me lizzie? heehee!
No! I think "Liza" suits you best. It matches your prissy way.
Killing snobs is for good.
but you call me a snob just the other day?......does this mean you are wanting me to be killed off....and by my greer? what a dreadful thought! APRIL why didnt he die in the chocolate?! we need to come up with something majorly quick!
You're definitely a Jane Austen snob and it's only a matter of time before "Paula" smacks you over the head like she did Smithy. I think you need a good crack anyways.
my idea of an intellectual story is the one i am reading called "North by Northanger"
lizzie and darcy are married and pregnant and are solving a mystery! beat that one!
Ohh, that's a great book! Can you believe Lizzy cheated on Darcy and is carrying another man's child? I wonder if Darcy will find out who the mystery man.
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Howdy, Pilrgrim -- "I am not a big Western fan and thus not a big John Wayne fan..." - Minya
Me either (please don't tell 'lzcutter')
Well, looky here. The California Kid may be headed for a hangin'. I'd like to help ya out, pardner, but you've done me wrong too many times. You're on your own, son. I suggest hittin' the trail before you catch your death.
That's a rather strange poster for Red River.
Don't know if you noticed but the artwork has Dassin's "signature" on it - like the way an artist signs a painting. I wonder if he was the "creator" of the image or if this is a scan of a poster someone had him sign. I like to think it is the former.
I did notice Dassin's "Johnny Hancock" and I have no idea if he had anything to do with the poster or if he just signed the poster.
Hola, Minya -- There are back rooms?
Yes, Me Lady Tart.
Why am I just hearing about this now?
Because you have to prove your backroom worthiness first. You're doin' pretty good, Shallow Gal.

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Bonjour, Mademoiselle Collet Mont? -- i dont hate you....its all in your mind. heehee! jane austen taught me many valuable things thank you!
Yes, like hating kind, caring gentleman like myself. Such manners.
I rather make you cry. That's more fun.
how mean! you know i dont like to cry in front of other people! i cant help crying to my favorite movies. it comes naturally......you make me cry on purpose! because you think its fun, but it really tears me up inside....im telling you......jack the ripper!
I'm not Jack the Ripper. That's Smithy.
elizabeth bennett if you recall, didnt like crying in front of mr, darcy either.
I have no idea what you are talking about. None.
So do you honestly believe I'm going to like Pride and Prejudice?
going to? you have already seen it. we have evidence! april where are you, you are suppose to be backing me up on the evidence! he has me backed up into a corner!
I haven't seen it. I speak the truth. Why don't you believe me? You know I'm always upfront and honest with you.

Bonjour, Mademoiselle Agressif -- I don't believe he buys dvds to watch them, he just buys them to torment us with an occasional screencap.
Some of us mortals have our own spells.
I bet he never even watched High Noon and all that talk about his "lambchop" was just tomfoolery. Have you actually watched the movie, Mr Grimes?
I'll let Helen Ramirez answer that one for you, Mrs. Harv...


"Elizabeth" longs for the day when I'm treated with love from prissy, snippy girls.

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well no one said you had to chat with me! partir en vacances!!!!

oh yes! that is my design in life! to kill you off, or havent you heard?
I've heard and felt. Why do you hate me? I'm a kind, loving soul. I guess Jane Austen girls are told to hate kind, loving men.
weddings are a part of life and everyone loves to go to weddings. you are a softy, you should like them!
Not me. Weddings are a bore. There better not be one in Pride and Prejudice.
You're right, I have seen No Country for Old Men a couple times. Would you like me to post some caps on your thread? I could find the bloodiest, if you like.
r?pugnant! if you want me fainting constantly go right on ahead!
I rather make you cry. That's more fun.
So do you honestly believe I'm going to like Pride and Prejudice?
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If you carry my books and take notes for me, I might throw you a couple pity kisses
.You don't know how many times I've heard those words.
Those aren't the classroom stories I've heard.
Hey, you're supposed to keep that to yourself
.Just don't get any ideas.
Pride of the Flubs, just doesn't have the same ring to it
.Ring? Do you and ChiO even know what that is?

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Have you been hiding in the bushes?
no, im trying to get this ending to my sememster over and done with. heehee! sorry im gonna be around more now.
Worst news of the day.
There's a wedding in Pride and Prejudice? I'm definitely not watching it now. No way, no how.
yes and thats the best part! oh im sorry, you ABSOLUTELY cant ruin your reputation now can you? sheesh!
If I'm watching prim and priss weddings, I'm dunfer. I hope you are happy about killing me off.
There's a confession of love in the film, too? Do you really expect me to watch this trash? I think it's time for me to watch No Country for Old Men again.
ew! not on MY pride and prejudice thread you arent! frankie how could you even mention such a trashy movie on this thread? heehee! and you have already seen it, come on you already slipped a couple times darlin.
You're right, I have seen No Country for Old Men a couple times. Would you like me to post some caps on your thread? I could find the bloodiest, if you like.

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Howdy, Coopsy's Clarita -- I changed my mind, I wanna sit behind the sleepy cowboy!!!! It would be much more fun to blow kisses at him than throw spitballs at you
.Where are my kisses?
There's no way I'd be in the same classroom as you. Let's just say, I've heard stories.
Hey now, I only cheated in that one class and I had a lot going on that year. I had dance lessons, was in band, the flag corps, annual staff, key club and I was taking Algebra II (by far my worst subject). There was no time to study chemistry. My teacher was also insane and he would tell you something once and never go back over it. Heck, I didn?t even cheat very well as I just barely passed
.Those aren't the classroom stories I've heard.

At least you don't give up double-digit runs in every damn game. And we're supposed to have pitching!
I?ve got an idea let?s play ?whose team has the higher closer?s ERA? ! Ours is 10.80. It was 12 something but he had one scoreless inning yesterday so it dropped a little. Valverde has yet to have a 1-2-3 inning and in 8 IP?s, has given up 4 homers. It?s a good thing I dye my hair, b/c it?s probably turned white. People are starting to call him the ?Latino Lidge?. I can?t go through another season of a crappy, unreliable closer.
The closer is an imaginary position in Pittsburgh. Sadly, so was starter this weekend, too.
But I'd still rather watch the Bucs get shellacked every game than watch one single Gary Cooper film. Now that's real torture.
You better pay attention in class then b/c I heard punishment for cheating is you have to watch one of Gary?s early films where he?s wearing makeup. Let?s just say, I will have to bone up on my cheating skills !
I think Coop may be the biggest cheater in the class.
:pWhat's the SCORE, ChicagOwen? -- Leon "Bull" Durham just doubled in Bob Dernier and Ryno, it's 17-6 now.
But I'd still rather watch the Bucs get shellacked every game than watch one single Gary Cooper film.
I knew it! You are a Cubs fan!
Anything to get out of a Coop film.
I think your first extra-credit assignment (not that I mean to imply you'll need extra-credit) should be: Why THE PRIDE OF THE YANKEES is my favorite baseball movie and how Gary Cooper played first base better than Willie Stargell.
Trust me, I'll need extra-extra credit. A Coop film about the Yankees... can it get any worse? Maybe a Coop film about the Cubs?

This one's for Pops...
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Have you been hiding in the bushes?
one of the things i dearly looooooved about the Colin Firth version was that they showed the wedding at the end! a double wedding between jane and lizzy. sighs!!! i just loved actually getting to see the wedding! it is always so exciting.
There's a wedding in Pride and Prejudice? I'm definitely not watching it now. No way, no how.
the most recent one in 2005....how do i put this....i have to be honest. i fell alseep watching it. heehee! it was an accident! honest! i didnt want to, but keira knightly just ruined my elizabeth bennett for me. although i did like the love scene in the end when they finally confess their love for each other, but even that scene wasnt as great as the original for me.
There's a confession of love in the film, too? Do you really expect me to watch this trash? I think it's time for me to watch No Country for Old Men again.
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So does my knowledge of all things Coop make me one of the fast cool kids?
Ohh, sure it does. The make-up class is down the hall and to the left.
Seriously, my chemistry teacher in high school called me and my group of friends "bad influences".
A-ha! Proof positive! I hope Sweet T is reading this.
Granted, my best friend and I did cheat to pass that class, but he had no proof
. Other than that one class, I was a model student
.There's no way I'd be in the same classroom as you. Let's just say, I've heard stories.

Me and you will sit behind Frank so we can shoot spitballs at him. We?ll also continue the taunting of how bad his Pirates are doing. It?s a shame they can?t be having as good a season as my Astros
.At least you don't give up double-digit runs in every damn game. And we're supposed to have pitching! But I'd still rather watch the Bucs get shellacked every game than watch one single Gary Cooper film. Now that's real torture.

I see that somebody is sleeping in class again...

And who the heck is responsible for this vandalism?

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Ciao, Kylefornia -- Thanks for the Jules Dassin spotlight. I really like the Rififi poster. Very nice.
Hi, Minya -- I really hope I'm not developing an overly tarty image with all the slavering over the impressive physiques displayed here. I really am deeper than that.
That's all everyone has been talking about in the back rooms of the board.

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You're welcome. The quickest way to this girl's heart is through your writing.
You treat me so well, T. Too well, as a matter of fact. Thanks, doll. So what's this about you kissing Hedy's hem?
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Howdy, Lynn -- Glad to have you on board. I hope Frankie (and others) will throw in with us as well. Come on, Frankie, it will be fun. Think of the knowledge we could share.
Knowing me, I'd put off watching the film at hand until the final day of class and then show up, all ready to talk about it.
By the way, Harvey is coming up on the TCM schedule. Is your TIVO ready?
TiVo? We don't need no stinkin' TiVo.

Ciao, Miss Goddess -- I'll sign up as the first very apt pupil! Just don't let FrankGrimes sit behind me.
Ohh, I guess you want me to sit next to you so we can hold hands. That's so sweet of you. :x

And some poor guy is definitely carrying THIS icky girl's books.
That sounds about right: snippy and pushy all the way.
What's up, Cubs-13-Bucs-6-ChiOuch -- You know me too well.
You are predictably boring. I should know, since I'm twice as boring.
Bergman -- Would've been a possibility with the early films, but not the post-Scenes from a Marriage stuff.
That's what I figured.
1950s Sci-Fi -- I actually have a draft proposal on the topic that I was going to submit to Facets, and this class is nearly identical, so...nevermind.
So you are a Sci-Fi guy then. This I didn't know.
Ford at Fox -- I was momentarily tempted, but I feared that MissG would lose all respect (if any remains) for me.
There's a lot of ground to cover with Ford at Fox. The silent films would probably interest me the most.
Murnau! Murnau! Murnau! -- I've seen four (Nosferatu, The Last Laugh, Faust, Sunrise) of the six films, but seeing Tartuffe and City Girl and, one hopes, digging deeper into his art is too much to pass up.
Tartuffe is my least favorite of the Murnau films I have seen but it's still very good. I have never seen City Girl but I've heard good things about it. Are they showing Tabu and Phantom? I love those two films. Actually, I like all of the Murnau films that I have seen. I'll post some caps from each later tonight.
Hiya, SoKyle -- OK all you students. Here's someting truly serendipitous - and a little scary. I was killing some time earlier tonight with the "free" satellite service "Classic Arts Showcase" on my TV and what should appear but excerpts from a historical/biographical documentary titled "The Way To Murnau". It was made in 2002. I found it quite interesting and it might make a good primer or introduction before diving in to the films themselves.
If you want to incorporate this into your curriculum (sp?), it can be found on the Kino DVD of Murnau's Tartuffe and is available through Netflix.




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Hola, Boca Bronxie -- I never liked the word "lady". Too matronly and old-fashioned.
I'm with you on that one, Woman.

I like "lassie".
I sense a doggie theme.
I'm a lassie. A lassie is youthful, down to earth, yet still very female.
I think you just want a Scotsman or an Irishman to whisk you away, Lassie.
I just want to romp through the heather, then come back and sit in front of the fireplace. Hey, that's a good life for a human being, let alone a doggie.
I could go for that kind of life, too.
Welcome back, Shallow Slavering Tart -- That's a step up for me. I'm usually being told, "aller au diable."
Yes, I could see that.
You just couldn't wait to get back to this thread to tell me that, could you?

Ciao, Unsweetened T -- That's a step up for me. I'm usually being told, "aller au diable."
no i'll leave that special phrase to sweet April. mine is simply, "partir en vacances!"
"Special phrase"? What's so special about it?
I'm being completely honest! That's what I do best. Goodness! So do you think I'm going to dislike Pride and Prejudice even more than Random Harvest? Does "Liza" kill all the snobs with her bow and arrow at the ball? I hope so.
you dont dislike Pride and Prejudice at all, do you frankie? of course not. heehee!
Of course I do! Do you really expect me to like it? Greer Garson is in it, so there's absolutely no way I can like it. None.
and excuse me, but never call her "liza". it would be okay to call her "lizzy" though, b/c mr, darcy does at the end, and so does her family. mr. collins called her "liza", yucky! and HA! thats another piece of evidence against you! heehee!
Mr. Collins is my favorite, so I shall call you "Liza," Liza.
now why would she kill the "snobs" at the ball? she only uses her dexterity with the bow and arrow for good, not evil!
Killing snobs is for good.
In my world. You should know by now that I'm always right. I'm a guy and you're a girl, and guys are always right. That's the way of things. Don't tell me Jane Austen tells you differently.
guys are always what? im sorry i didnt quite catch that last word...if you say what i think you just said, you are looking for a big hi-yah and a face full of honey!
Right. Jane Austen's first novel is entitled, "Guys Are Always Right." Didn't you read that one? I'm disappointed in you, T. It's an enchanting tale of a poor girl who goes to a ball in an elegant gown where she meets a rich guy who tells her he's right about everything and she agrees with him. It's a rather deep, intellectual story.
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Howdy, Fordy Guns -- I get the sense you enjoy being evil. Why must you taunt me so? What you just wrote about Madeleine Carroll now has me wanting to see The World Moves On. You also wrote some other temptress words:
Ford's fascination with continuity with the past peeks out through the
persistent belief held by the present day lovers, Madeleine and Franchot, that they knew one
another in a previous time.
However nothing less than my highest praise is reserved for the performances by madeleine and
the always underrated Franchot. They give what struck me as one of the most convincing
portrayals of two people very much in love.
But boy is it anti-war---and anti-commercialism.
It's official, I hate you.
Despite my persistent hate for you, I did enjoy reading your thoughts on The World Moves On and Seas Beneath. You are the one person on this board who has provided reviews for Ford at Fox and I truly appreciate it. And have I told you that I hate you? Yes? Good.
Why don't you upload some torturous screen caps?
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Hi, Laura -- Thank you for the welcome, Frank!
You are very welcome.
I am very lucky that all my kids are big movie fans. As I write, my 13-year-old, who is under the weather today, is consoling herself with THE BAND WAGON. You are so right about the pleasure of a shared journey.
Movies can definitely help bring a family together. Your family sounds wonderful.
I will definitely check out that TO CATCH A THIEF commentary. Thank you for the recommendation! I am taking notes on all the good ideas here.
It's a very entertaining, relaxed commentary. Laurent Bouzereau does well with Peter Bogdanovich.
Here are some of my personal favorite commentaries:
Fallen Angel -- Eddie Muller and Susan Andrews (Dana Andrews' daughter). Eddie and Susan work extremely well together.
Clash by Night -- Peter Bogdanovich. There's a lot to talk about with this film and Bogdanovich does so.
The Lady from Shanghai -- Peter Bogdanovich. I could listen to Petey talk about Orson Welles all day long.
Point Blank -- John Boorman and Steven Soderbergh. If you are into filmmaking, this is a terrific commentary to listen to.
Tabu -- Janet Bergstrom. Bergstrom not only provides commentary for the film, but she also does so for the outtakes. Bergstrom talks about the conflict between F.W. Murnau and Robert J. Flaherty during the filming of Tabu. It's a fascinating track.
I Wake Up Screaming - Eddie Muller
Angel Face - Eddie Muller
King Kong - Ray Harryhausen and Ken Ralston (with Merian C. Cooper and Fay Wray audio clips). What I really like about this commentary is the genuine excitement shown by Harryhausen. It's like he's a teenager again. I found it to be joyous.
The Set-Up -- Martin Scorsese and Robert Wise. It must be noted that their tracks are spliced together. The commentary does suffer from some lulls, but it's great to hear Marty and Wise talking about one of the tightest films ever made.
Scarlet Street -- David Kalat. Kalat is an expert on Fritz Lang and he does a nice job of talking about Lang throughout the track.
Fourteen Hours -- Foster Hirsch. A very enlightening track.
The Leopard Man -- William Friedkin. I appreciate Friedkin's appreciation of this Lewton classic.
I tend to enjoy scholarly commentaries by women and one of my favorites is Mariane Keane. I like her commentaries for Spellbound and Notorious.
Like others on this thread, I also thoroughly John Carpenter's commentaries, especially the ones with Kurt Russell. The Thing commentary is fantastic.
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Awwww. Like Tramp! Push that meatball over to my plate.
You just made me smile, Bronxie. What's so perfect about what you said is that you would ask me to push the meatball over to you. That's very you. But are you a "Lady," Bronxie? -
More like mutt.
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I think Tracy's career didn't necessarily take the most artistic route. Had he stayed for a long haul at Warners or freelanced sooner he might have carved a different niche and done more noirish, complex roles he was capable of. But he had a family to support and for whatever other reasons, chose to make going to work as comfortable an ordeal as possible. MGM was a good studio for that and they respected him enough to provide him with their considered best roles, mostly patriarchal and authoritative and soon the public came to regard him (still does) as something like what's carved on Mount Rushmore.
Tracy is a cerebral actor. His performances tend to be very intellectual and I appreciate them on that level. He rarely affects me emotionally, though. Bogie and Sinatra affect me emotionally, hence I like them more.
Bogie and Frankie were more apt to be scrappy about their career decisions, and, of course, Bogie was provided with ample scrapping opportunities with Jack Warner as his boss.
Frank was at Metro, too, but when his music career dove into the can it may have been one of the best things ever to happen to him because when he came back he came back more of an artist and less willing to compromise.
I'm sorely lacking in knowing and understanding the off-screen stories of performers, so I thank you for the knowledge, Teach.
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I'm most definitely a dog, Bronxie. I don't think I'm a border collie, though.
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I never thought about it that way but it's true. Spence is maintaining the facade, until it's time for the character to crack, but he was often cast in somewhat authoritative roles which didn't always give him leeway to crack. Maybe that's why I find him so awesome in Fury and Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde because we get both in one role.
Tracy's manic performance as Jekyll & Hyde is definitely one of my favorites of his. He really lets loose in that film. Tracy was an actor's actor, a true professional, a perfectionist. This doesn't always work with me because I feel it's too sharp, too fine. Bogie and Sinatra's performances often feel more real to me. They are more regular guy to me.
Frank was a loose cannon but learned remarkably well how to contain his emotional power in scenes, saving stuff for the right moment. I like his quiet moments best because I can never tell just when the explosion's going to come but I know it's gotta come at any moment.
I've been very impressed by Sinatra's ability to turn the emotional switch on and off. One second he is effectively boiling and the next he's drowning in his own emotional pain. This is the biggest reason why I like Sinatra as an actor. He possessed exceptional emotional range. Not bad for a "crooner."
He has a weary, ravaged face, too---all three did and those are great "acting faces" to have.
Excellent observation and point. Bogie's face really lent itself to his playing the cynical, tough guy roles. He was no pretty boy, and I think this is why many guys cite Bogie as one of their favorites.
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Hiya, Ava -- yes i do agree alot of ppl did not consider him a great actor or maybe even a good actor..but u know what i say... so what...i mean hes FRANK SINATRA!......lol.....my point is that was not his cup of tea....i think he prooved he could do it...which i know he wanted to do..and as i said he prooved it by winning the award
Frankie's legendary singer status will always overshadow any of his other accomplishments, but I really do like him as an actor.
which btw if it wasnt for AVA...heehee...he never would have even gotten the role if it wasnt for her..She made the call to the director and she begged to please give Frank the role role, being Ava Gardner well she did have mega clout.....lol....he obliged Ava and Frank not only got the roll but he kiiled it...and won the award...cool story huh?
I didn't know this. Thank you for the lesson. I need quite a few, by the way.
Love conquers all....heehee
Most of the time.
BTW.......loooooove those pics ...are those from Man with the golden Arm or Pal Joey...i know Kim was in Pal Joey..but i think she was in The Man with the golden arm to...so i think there from that am i right?
Yes, the caps are from The Man with the Golden Arm.
Bonjour, Missy G -- Oh my goodness! Did you finally watch The Man with the Golden Arm???????
After such a reaction as that, I'm now wishing that I had. It looks like I've got another film to watch. I may need to watch it after I watch a certain trashy film.

Frank would have been honored to be compared to Bogie, because I think he learned the most about the craft from him and Spencer Tracy.
I didn't know this, either.
Bogie wore anguish so well and the Sinatra films I have seen to date have him playing characters with great anguish, and I feel he wears it similarly well. I think Sinatra's delivery is also similar to Bogie. He's rather quick and emotional; very choppy. Spencer Tracy has a smooth flow. Even though Tracy's characters may turn emotional, he remains in complete control of his dialogue. I prefer Bogie and Frank's spittin' style, although I greatly admire Tracy.
I've often flet that had he concentrated on acting instead of music, he could have been up there with those guys more consistently. But I wouldn't sacrifice his music for anything so I guess he made the right choice after all.
Quite possibly.
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The Lady from Shanghai is another favorite of mine that features a forboding narration.
Fools know they are being fooled. That's what makes them fools.





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Hey there, Ava! -- I do agree that he was underrated but also keep in mind he won the acadamy award for From Here To Eternity, so i feel he was appreciated as well as The Man With The Golden Arm was great...i looved him in Guys and Dolls to....Sooooo many good ones..
I'm not sure how many people in the classic film community consider Sinatra to be a good actor. It's rarely said. Of the films I have seen him in, he has reminded me of Humphrey Bogart, and I love Bogie.






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MY KINGDOM FOR MURNAU!! - FrankGrimes
Is he on the ballot in PA too? Now go vote!
btw, did you see the PBS profile of Roberto Clemente last night?
No. I was busy watching another "tragedy."