FrankGrimes
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See, you even proved it. Rhett appreciates me for just what I am!
What, a traitoress?
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Who's loyal?! I think it's awfully loyal to help out Melanie that way. Taking a worthless husband off her hands and all.
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I may be terrible, but at least I'm loyal. You, on the other slipper, are always looking to betray.
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Per DVD Beaver, here are Criterion's July releases:
Mon oncle Antoine (Claude Jutra, 1971), Trafic (Jacques Tati, 1971), Vampyr (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1932) and High and Low (Kurosawa, 1963).
I'm thrilled to see Vampyr getting the Criterion treatment.
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Rhett is only packing up his laundry. He's so neat he puts it in a suitcase.
I'm sure you are right. I suggest waiting for him.
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Ha! Now I know you're lying. You never go to the library. You can't read.
Who says anythin' 'bout readin'?
And stop vandalising my precious movie!!!!!!!
My "vandalizing" is a mere pittance compared to your vandalizing of Rhett's heart.
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That's because you didn't have time for reading in Finishing School. You were too busy doing other things.
They still finished me there! I got my diploma to prove it!
You keep enrolling.
That's not what he said to me. More like you drank up all his mind and heart. You've left him empty.
Where did this interesting conversation take place? The locker room or a bar? Or Belle's?
At the library.
I've got wounds that say differently. Butterscotch will back me up on this. She knows all about your stubbornness.
I never touched you, you poor soft thing.
You lie so lovely.
Butterscotch will back ME up on this.
Not if she speaks the truth. You are nothing but stubborn and snippy.
Because if I were to buy Pride and Prejudice, it would show that I'm not bullheaded nor close-minded nor selfish nor conceited nor arrogant and we know darn well I'm all of those things and then some. That's why I said you may have a point, Pointy Horns.
Finally you write something besides rubbish today! Unless.....unless you bought P&P just to taunt us. You'll probably post screencaps and overwrite the captions with some crude vulgarian language straight out of one of your bloody movies.
I'd never do such a thing. I merely post the subtitles from the film.
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Mildred Dunnock as "Norma" in The Invisible Man's Revenge.
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Because I enjoy rubbing it in!
What, that you are a traitoress?
I don't read Jane Austen for lessons. I never even read my lessons in Finishing School.
That's because you didn't have time for reading in Finishing School. You were too busy doing other things.
He looked mighty upset the last I saw him. You better return to England and look for them things to do.
He was just mad because I drank up all his Brandy.
That's not what he said to me. More like you drank up all his mind and heart. You've left him empty.
I'm definitely the most bullheaded, close-minded, selfish, conceited, arrogant person on this board... this side of you.
No, you're the prize winning bull, not me.
I've got wounds that say differently. Butterscotch will back me up on this. She knows all about your stubbornness.
Besides, why does buying the P&P dvd make a person all of those things?
Because if I were to buy Pride and Prejudice, it would show that I'm not bullheaded nor close-minded nor selfish nor conceited nor arrogant and we know darn well I'm all of those things and then some. That's why I said you may have a point, Pointy Horns.
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Good Evening, Miss Snippy -- I see no reason for me to a) Prefer GWTW to all other novels when the movie is better;
Fair enough. But why put us all through the facade of "rubbing it in" about Gone with the Wind being voted the second favorite book for Americans? Why? I feel used. You'd think I'd be used to that feeling with you, but each time is more painful than the last.
Move back to England (been there, done them...I mean that)Whoa! Is this the lesson Texan gals get from Jane Austen, Finishing School Girl?
c) worry about Rhett; he's poisoned with me
He looked mighty upset the last I saw him. You better return to England and look for them things to do.
or d) be consistent and genuine when I've never claimed to be either.
Okay, you're right about this. You have always taken great pride in your inconsistency and disingenuity.
And may I point out that unlike YOU, Mr. Consistent, I did not run out and buy a dvd of Pride and Prejudice.
You find this to be out of character for me, Becky Sharp? You may have a point. I'm definitely the most bullheaded, close-minded, selfish, conceited, arrogant person on this board... this side of you.
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Hi, Laura. Welcome to the board!
I love commentaries and am always disappointed if they're not included. I love the concept of DVDs being "film school in a box" and the commentaries really provide "value added."
You just spoke my feelings. I thoroughly enjoy audio commentaries for the exact reasons you stated. My favorite type of commentaries are the ones provided by filmmakers or scholars. They truly do enhance the value of a DVD and sometimes a film for me.
You also caught my eye by mentioning one of my very favorite commentaries: Fallen Angel. Eddie Muller and Susan Andrews were a joy to listen to. Eddie is one of my very favorites. He brilliantly combines passion and intellect with a wonderful relaxed style. He's a major DVD selling point for me. I'm also a fan of Peter Bogdanovich commentaries. I really enjoyed his shared commentary track with Laurent Bouzereau on To Catch a Thief. Yet another entertainingly informative track.
I'll have to come up with my list later this evening.
Good luck to your daughter. I'm sure she appreciates your shared enthusiasm for film and film analysis. A shared journey is always the best journey.
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Good afternoon, Traitoress -- Frank, did anyone congratulate you yet for breaking through the 4,000 posts barrier?
They have now. Thank you.
Then allow Miss Scarlett to buy you a drink on it since 3,000 of them were written in her thread calling her a traitoress.
I wouldn't call Miss Scarlett a traitoress. She's an angel. It is you who is the traitoress, Miss Scarlett.
Orson Welles' Jane Eyre is my favorite adaptation because I believe it comes closest to capturing Bronte's darkly romantic spirit. It is, however, not the most strictly faithful to the story and elimates large sections. No other Mr Rochester I've seen is as close to how I see him in the book as Orson's. I also consider this movie to be one of the most beautiful films of the 1940s and I am puzzled as to why it's not more highly regarded. I think it may be because it's a woman's story. The photography is up there with the most gorgeous expressionistic work---and it's Welles who is probably responsible for pushing for that look. The editing, too, is quite interesting and gives the story a decided rythm that keeps everything tense and moving remarkably quickly. There are no slow spots.
I hate you!
I love lists
I love you!
1. Jane Eyre, C. Bronte
2. Vanity Fair, W.M. Thackeray
3. Emma, J. Austen
4. Rebecca, D. DuMaurier
5. The Romance of the Forest, A. Radcliffe
I hate you!
Yes, GWTW is not in the top five.
It's probably not in your top 100. You are a fraud, Traitoress! A total phony. You have the absolute nerve to post that Americans name "Gone with the Wind" as their second favorite book and you don't even care for it. Tsk, tsk, shame and double shame! I think you need to move to England where you can sip all the tea you want with your snobby boyfriends at the ball.
I haven't read it in about a dozen years so perhaps if I did read it again now, I might change my list.
So there's hope that "Gone with the Wind" may crack your top 500 then; wonderful. I'm sure Rhett will wait around for you this time. Bonnie's little heart couldn't take it, though.
However, I seldom read fiction (or anything) anymore. Except Rebecca. I always take Rebecca with me when I travel for a lengthy time.
That LENGTHY holiday cannot get here soon enough. I know Butterscotch agrees with me on that one.
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What's up, Molo -- I really enjoyed reading your words on Odds Against Tomorrow and Gloria Grahame's performance within. A very entertaining read.
The most obvious component is racial, but I also like how Harry Belafonte and Robert Ryan's characters are both dealing with their own male insecurities and feelings of inadaquecy that are brought about due to societal pressures.
This is what I latched on to in the film. I don't think it particularly made either character more sympathetic in my eyes though. It was their women I felt for though Hamilton and Winters both seemed more equipped to deal with life in a more straightforward manner than the two male leads. I guess that was the point though wasn't it?
I found both Earle (Robert Ryan) and Johnny (Harry Belafonte) to be sympathetic at their lowest moments, but they both turned to arrogance and anger when confronting their emotional pain, thusly pushing them away from their women and us, the audience.
I really like your point about their women. I believe both men feel as if they are being emasculated by their woman. Earle and Lorry's (Shelley Winters) relationship was very telling to me. Lorry was the breadwinner and this really made Earle feel small. The caps I posted in a previous post shows Earle telling Lorry that she only wants him for sex. That's what sets Lorry off. The roles are basically reversed in their relationship, traditionally speaking.
Johnny and Ruth's (Kim Hamilton) relationship centers around one thing and one thing only: their daughter, Eadie (Lois Barnes). Ruth is carrying a serious torch for Johnny but she knows better to touch the flame. She's been burned too many times already. She knows that Johnny is untrustworthy. Just like Johnny, Ruth is playing the odds. Sadly, she must bet against her one love (Johnny) for her other love (Eadie -- tomorrow). Ruth's decision to keep Johnny out of her and Eadie's life deeply hurts him.
This is one of the things that made the film so depressing especially where Ryan's character was concerned. He was racist, tough, unsure, insecure and ultimately pathetic. Belafonte seemed less resigned to his failings but I might be wrong there.
I believe both Earle and Johnny blame others for their situation in life. They feel helpless, so they decide to lash out, seeking scapegoats. They are one in the same, despite their differences.
Forgive me if I get way too sentimental about all this.
Now I'm sure my Gloria bias is showing but I found her character the most heart wrenching in the film.I felt Winters could take care of herself but not this Helen character. I have often, from Agnes Moorhead's Aunt Fanny to Vivian Leigh's Blanche, been moved to tears at the plight of lonely neglected women.
So you're a softy, Molo? Very good. I do agree with you. I felt Helen (Gloria Grahame) was the most vulnerable of the characters in the film. She was the kind of woman who could be easily pushed around. She was weak and waiting to be taken advantage of.
This is 1959 Gloria. The oldest I've ever seen her. Still beautiful in a frumped up character but this is the first time I've ever looked at her in quite this way. The way she talked, the way she moved and the look in her eyes really touched me.
I was thrown a little by Gloria's look and speech when I first saw the film, but I have since grown to really love her appearance and manner in the film.
I wasn't so caught up in what was going on with her life off camera but I was mesmerized by that little girl in the somewhat worn body standing there in the doorway. What is it she yells at Ryan in that first scene: Am I disturbing you or something like that?
I'm not sure what to make of the first scene between Helen and Earle. Does she really need a babysitter or is she there to check out Earle? Earle's reaction to her makes you believe that she is a pain in his rear.
The second scene between them is really something to see. Grahame's sexual longing for Ryan, perhaps turned lascivious by neglect, and the way he toys with her, well I don't know if I can properly express how it affected me. I'll just say that it says a lot about that particular aspect of the human condition. I found it all very fascinating obviously. Is she too simple to comprehend it all. Her sly grin turned so quickly serious. I wanted to reach out to this Gloria, to this lonely little person standing in the doorway with that gleam in her eye. Was it a neglected woman's lust in that gleam? Was it simply nothing more than hope?
I love the second encounter between Earle and Helen. You are on the money with your "human condition" remark. Earle and Helen are both very lonely and needy at this moment. Earle is feeling alone because Lorry doesn't understand he wants to be a man in charge. He wants to be the man in his castle. Earle cannot feel this away around Lorry but he can around Helen. Helen is an easy target. He didn't have any need for her the first time but he does this time since Lorry told him to go "straight to hell." That's the plan.
Helen seems to be a very lonely and needy woman. She has a son to look after and her husband is seemingly too busy to please her. She wants to be appreciated. Earle wants her sexually, which makes Helen feel wanted and needed for just that "once."
I believe you are very correct in feeling sadness for Helen because she is the one person in the film who is really being used.
You deserve to be with Gloria because of your concern for her. My mind is always in the gutter with Gloria. I'm using her just like Earle. She deserves better.
Lorry (Shelley Winters) thinks she is being very loving and supportive by telling Earle (Robert Ryan) he doesn't have to be a "big man" but she's actually damaging him further.
Ruth (Kim Hamilton) continues to damage Johnny (Harry Belafonte) by telling him he's not worthy of his own daughter. That's a real tough pill to swallow.
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Just don't become a Sensitive Ponytail Man. Ways to avoid this: Wearing socks and Birkenstocks. Getting high a lot and listening to reggae and pretending you're Jamaican. Also, wearing dreadlocks. Listening to Dave Matthews and the Grateful Dead too much. Pretending to read the Beat writers. I love the Beats, but I actually read it, I don't just carry it around.
That's what a sensitive guy is? That sounds like a stoner to me. I thought you were going to tell me a sensitive guy is one who cares for others, especially women. I'm neither a stoner nor a guy who cares for others, especially women.
And what kind of women is the Northwest full of?
Well, admittedly they're not all as amazing as I am
That goes without saying, but go on and say it, girl.
but I think for the most part we're a pretty sassy lot-well read, fans of good books, fine films (okay, and not so fine films), tasty wines and cold, frothy beer. We're not afraid to be dames. At least not the girls I hang out with.
Well-read girls are sassy? Did you read you this in a Jane Austen novel? I know some well-read girls who are snippy.
Now how am I supposed to give you any heat if you speak so wisely?
Well, I AM pretty smart.
That will change mighty quick the more you talk with me.
Actually that's not true-it is currently 10:32 PM here in rainy Seattle and I'm still up when I have to be up at 3:30AM because I'm going out of town for three days. Oh well, too much common sense isn't good for you.
You better hit the sack, Smart-n-Sassy. Have a safe trip. And I ain't talkin' a "sensitive ponytail man" kind of trip, neither.
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Hi, Joe! If I posted too many photos for your taste, just let me know and I'll remove some.
Mildred Dunnock in Kiss of Death
Mildred Dunnock as "Aunt Muriel" in the Alfred Hitchcock Presents episode "None Are So Blind."
Mildred Dunnock as "Louise Tiffany" in the Alfred Hitchcock Presents episode "The West Warlock Time Capsule."
Mildred Dunnock as "Mrs. Wiggs" in The Trouble with Harry
Mildred Dunnock at "Aunt Nonnie" in Sweet Bird of Youth
Mildred Dunnock as "Aunt Rose Comfort" in Baby Doll
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Howdy, Coopsy's Clarita -- In case it wasn't clear, the populations down here are growing b/c of you Northeners migrating
.Does a yankee like me depress you so?
If we are barefoot and pregnant it's b/c some of these southern belles are settling for you yanks. Now I prefer our good ole Texas boys. They appreciate us charming Southern women over yankee ice princesses
.I've got a soft spot in my black heart for some Texas women. I'm a Linda Darnell fan. I also like some other obstinate, indecorous Texas gals.
Hiya, Annie Laurie Starr -- I will also have to vote for Rhett over Ashley, because it's possible for a man to be too sensitive and gentle.
Yes, I know. I'm overly sensitive and gentle. I care too much. I need to change this right away. Do you know where I could learn some manners? I was thinking about attending a ball.
Trust me-the Northwest is full of this type.
And what kind of women is the Northwest full of?
This is why I keep gravitating towards Errol Flynn-gorgeous and dashing, but you could throw back a couple of drinks with him before he commenced with the swashbuckling. He's a pirate. I like pirates.
I think every girl likes Errol.
And at the risk of showing a Frank Grimes bias
You wouldn't want to do that. That would be dangerous.
I get that Grace thing-I've known many a man to get all bothered by her-she gives the appearance of coolness, but it's the visible fire behind the ice that draws them in.
Now how am I supposed to give you any heat if you speak so wisely? You can tell you're not from Texas because you make sense.
I'm glad you gave a shout out to No Country For Old Men-I loo-ooved that film, and not just because Javier Bardem is on my list of men I plan to marry one day.
You loooove No Country for Old Men? Well, now. Things are starting to look up around here.
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I think that you, Frank should take your ice princess and go sit next to her as she looks at her stiff, cold,prim,pomp and proper self in the mirror...you need to be there so you can hold the mirror and keep it polished.
You just got a big laugh out of me, Irma.
I'll make sure to keep her lovely crown polished.I, on the other hand will sign off and finish "Sense and Sensibility" .
There's just no end to the trash.
This is Irma signing off for today until.................we never know do we?
Until then...
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Ashley wouldn't last two seconds with me
I believe that.
I'd rather go with Colin Firth, at least he's still alive.
And prissy.
I need my man to be alive or else he can't dance with me and toss me around the ballroom and" put me in my place;"that is what you said I needed, right?
Yes, ma'am. There are quite a few Texan women around here who need this.
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How can you pout if you don't have lips?
Sweet, adorable Grace has lovely lips. She's a doll.
Mr. Howard isn't 'manly' enough to play anything other than a stable-boy.He can handle the manure better than he can Scarlett and anyone else for that matter...Ha!
What are you talking about?! You should love Ashley because he's just like all the priss and proper Brits in those Jane Austen novels. You ain't gonna find a Rhett in the snob class. So you take your Ashley and go to the ball.
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Howdy, Deep in the Smart of Texas (
) -- Judging by the newest census data, the South and Southwest are the fastest growing areas of the country as you yankees are beginning to wise up.More like, y'all are barefoot and pregnant a helluva lot. I guess this is what y'all learned from Jane Austen and "Gone with the Wind."
:pAlso Texas is one of the top relocation destinations. I guess you yanks just can't resist us.
The Katrina effect.
Hola, Proud Texan Latina -- They shouldn't all go weak at the knees and melt like butter around her.
Easier said than done.
Speaking of boring and all things GWTW, I always found Leslie Howard to be along the same category as your boring ice princess.
Yes, I agree, Leslie Howard is on the boring side, ala Pride and Prejudice. The Ice Princess is far from boring. I love her icy moods and all the pouts that come with them.
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Hey, Touch of ChiO -- As I have posted before, few films touch on as many genres or styles of film, as well as subjects, and integrate them to create such a wonderous unified vision. Musical comedy -- the newsroom scene. Western/Americana -- his youth. Drama -- throughout. Melodrama -- his tryst. War. Politics. Domestic issues. Class warfare. Bio-pic. Film noir. Not much in the way of crime or gangster, but don't count Mr. Thatcher out.
I never really thought of Citizen Kane that way, but you are very correct.
I always view Kane as the keystone film for my own personal tastes. Welles triumphantly combined the mesmerizingly dark, unique visuals of German Expressionism with his own dark, forboding tale of greed and power that in turn help usher in what came to be known as film noir.
Per usual, I enjoyed reading your words on your favorite film. Welles played.
Hi, CCBaxter -- So you might say that, when watching these films, I think my way through Citizen Kane, and feel my way through The Third Man.
I really like that. It's exactly why I consider The Third Man the more enjoyable film yet I value Citizen Kane far more.
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Scarlett O'Hara was played by a Brit, but a very interesting, attractive,playful and even vulnerably beautiful one who knew how to be what all men want in a woman by playing a woman of the south;determined,and flirtatiously captivating.
Fiddle-dee-dee! Selznick couldn't find a real southern woman to play Scarlett because none were bright enough to pull it off thanks to their reading all those "intellectual" Jane Austen novels.
There is a valuable lesson to be learned with "Gone with the Wind." A southern belle spells doom for any man.
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As usual Mr. G., love your words.
Thanks, doll. I much prefer yours to mine. You write with emotion, which is always a very good thing to this guy.
(And the screen caps are nice too. If I ever learned to do THAT...look out!)
I can show you the way if you are ever interested in doing so. Time and patience is needed.
Move back to England (been there, done them...I mean that)
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Fant?stico, J-Girl! Emil Jannings is a great favorite of mine.