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Howdy, Fordy Guns! -- I have to keep reminding myself as I watch this movie that it was made in 1941---not 1961. I forgot how sexual it was! Those pics below don't capture how suggestive Gene Tierney looks as she's writhing in the dirt. I'm writhing in the "dirt." Gene is slinky and sneaky. I like it! Excellent caps! You are definitely making me want to see the film. Hiya, ButterscotchGENE -- oh dahlink!! thank you for those screencaps!!! i love Tobacco Road! now we cant torture fra kie anymore now though. oh no! we are satisfying him april! Hush! This is tortururous! To be honest, it actually is real torture because I can't get the film on DVD unless I buy Ford at Fox.

Hola, Lively Dame -- I respect that Frankie G. I respect that. I understand it when you, Bronxie, and others are a little surprised to learn I'm a such a sucker for Gloria. She's not the first actress that comes to mind when it comes to classic Sirens but she sings the song I have no resistance to. Gene Tierney is #2 for me, although Gene doesn't always represent sexuality with me like Gloria does. BTW...I thought Donna Douglas was lovely. She was in that Twilight Zone episode (about the eye of the beholder) and in "Lover Come Back" as a secretary. But she's no Anne Francis! Whew! I like Elly May. She's on the cute side. Bonjour, Miss G(ene) -- That's because you haven't seen Ellie May! I have now! She's sweet and dirty! Howdy, Sweet T -- figures. heehee! i never get off the hook with you. Do you want me to throw you back? I'm right? Are you okay? now that you mention it, i do feel a touch of warmth in my forehead. and who's fault is that? hmm i wonder! I warned you about me and headaches. well if you think about it most classic fans are also familiar with The Bad and the Beautiful and The greatest Show on Earth too. many people love film noir, just not as much as you do. heehee! well maybe Ollie would be right up there with you. heehee! It's Violet Bick and Ado Annie! am i right Ollie? Ollie took Buffalo Chuck's money and split. i can't believe i am to agree with you, but i love her performance in In a Lonely Place. it is one of my favs of hers....and you just said why. heehee! Sometimes you display good taste, T. Now I need to find a way to get you away from Coop. Yes, I like Gene Tierney and Gloria Grahame more than Miss Emotional. I like Barbara Stanwyck and Linda Darnell more than the Princess, too. My favorite of character among those actresses is a Grace character, though. I love Francie in To Catch a Thief. APRIL!!! did you hear that? he admitted to it! finally! we now the truth. he's been holding out on us! that spell is working better than i thought. heehee! Now what did I admit to? And why must you continue to talk to your imaginary friend? i didnt like her character in To Catch a Thief, b/c she wanted to turn him in....the man she loves. how mean is that? paula would never do that to smithy, even if he did have a knife in his hands, which WILL NEVR HAPPEN! heehee! Francie was just being obstinate and wrong-headed like most blondes tend to be. Paula annulled her marriage to Smithy. How cruel! That's so nice of you to say. In a Lonely Place is a different kind of Gloria for me. She has to project a wider range of emotions in that film and I thought she did a very nice job. I really liked her crying at the end. I thought it was beautiful. the ending to tht movie made me cry a lot. but i just love it anyway! it is such a touching well made movie with a great story and casting! for me, her character was very strong. I actually thought Laurel (Gloria Grahame) had a little bit of weakness to her. I think she was afraid of commitment.

Hey-O! Let the torture begin! I'm posting Lov and Ellie-May here since it IS a John Ford film. Yes, you should post the Tobacco Road caps on the Ford at Fox thread. Gene looks almost exactly how she looked in The Razor's Edge! I'll take Ellie May! She sure does look great in that country dress, despite her being old. More torture. Please!

Hey there, CineMaven! -- I so want to join the fray, but it's soooo much fun to read your spirited, friendly ribbing and knowledgeable discussion re: Double G. I don't need to add a thing. You guys are saying it all! And she was spectacular! You can join in whenever you like, CM. You'll only add to the fun. But Frank, Gloria really affects you more than Ava G? Didja ever see "Pandora..." or "The Killers"?? I have not seen Pandora and the Flying Dutchman or The Killers, so I really haven't see a good "young Ava" film yet. I'm sure my love for Ava will soar after I watch those two films. As of now, I prefer the "mature" Ava in terms of the characters she played. I love "Maxine Faulk" from The Night of the Iguana and "'Honey Bear' Kelly" from Mogambo. Both characters are full of spunk yet both are lonely inside. I'm gonna get On the Beach on DVD later this week because of Ava. Gloria is just different than all the rest. She's not as gorgeous as Grace Kelly or Gene Tierney and she's not as sexy as Ava, yet she just moves me like no other.

What's up, B? -- It's always great to see you around, even if it's for a little. I see you are your fiery yourself today, too. Inherit the Wind surprised you, huh? Yaw. Well, I love Spencer Tracy and this is one of my favorite of his films. I love him in all the ones with Kate and also the two Father of the Bride flicks...but Inherit the Wind is one compelling film! And his character is super-cool. This one, Boy's Town, and Bad Day At Black Rock, combined with the ones already mentioned are probably my favorite of Spencer Tracy's films. I knew you were a Spencer fan but I was surprised to see you list Inherit the Wind amongst your very favorites. Inherit the Wind is in my top ten for all-time favorite films. Do you like Fury? Although I have seen most of his films and there is only one so far that I dislike - Tortilla Flat, which is one of the most annoying movies ever made, IMO. I love Spencer Tracy and John Garfield as a rule, but wow is that film annoying! I've never Tortilla Flat but you just made me laugh. Anyway, Inherit the Wind was just a great movie - Spencer Tracy is great, Fredric March is great, and Gene Kelly is great, even though he doesn't dance a step. I love Gene Kelly in the film. He just lays it on thick. I'm glad he didn't dance a step. Your lists really didn't surprise me - at least the film part. I'm predictably boring. I was kinda surprised you are a rap fan. Most people are. I'm guessing there may be only one other rap fan on this board and that's it. Sadly, we do not share a single musical interest with the exception of Prince and Huey Lewis and the News. Sadly? I really don't expect many people on the TCM board to share my interests in music. You do gain big points for mentioning you like Huey, though. Most people don't. My interests are much more around Bruce Springsteen (my hero), Journey, .38 Special, Guns & Roses, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Nine Inch Nails, The Gin Blossoms, Counting Crows, Bon Jovi, The Black Crows, Matchbox 20, Alanis Morissette, Fuel, Daughtry, etc. I like The Boss, Journey, and .38 Special. I actually have a "best of" cd of .38 Special. I went from 80s pop to rap in the late-80s and you went grunge/alternative. Of the artists you list, I like Nine Inch Nails the most. I will say this though - although I am not particularly a big horror fan, I do like Val Lewton. His films are not blood and gore sort of stuff. They are much more sophisticated. I don't buy many DVD sets of horror films, but I did buy the Val Lewton set that came out a few months ago. I watched some of the films they showed on TCM about that time, and really liked them. Was that the first time you watched Lewton's films? What Lewton pics have you watched? Lewton's "horror" films are my favorite because they are horrors of the mind. I'm crazy for psychological flicks. Our tastes really don't intertwine that much. The closest would be Bogie and Missy. That's a pretty good 1-2 punch, though.

Ciao, Sweet T! -- why cant i ever get an easy question out of you? That's too dull. I'm not so sure about the "true" part. I think there are many classic film fans who probably haven't seen Gloria's films noir. well you are right about that.sorry! I'm right? Are you okay? i guess it just depends upon what kind of movies you like huh? Most definitely. I think the majority of TCM's viewing audience is more familiar with It's a Wonderful Life and Oklahoma! than film noir. I think Gloria's best performances are from her films noir, but I believe the masses know her as "Violet Bick" and "Ado Annie." now that happens to be based on an opinion, silly goose. grabdmama thinks one of her best performances was as "Ado Annie". heehee! but i actually agree with both of you. i love her characters in her films noir, but i also love her as the fiesty girl who just couldnt day no. It's definitely a matter of opinion. I love Gloria as a femme fatale or a down-on-her-luck gal the most. Although she's really neither of those in In a Lonely Place, which is my favorite performance of hers. Ahhh, yes, Grace. That would be another musical I'd consider getting. I actually look to get Gene and Gloria films before the highly emotional Grace. wow! you are actually putting them before miss impassive? Yes, I like Gene Tierney and Gloria Grahame more than Miss Emotional. I like Barbara Stanwyck and Linda Darnell more than the Princess, too. My favorite of character among those actresses is a Grace character, though. I love Francie in To Catch a Thief. Thanks. I loved seeing Gloria get emotional. She was terrific in the final act of the film. she was always terrific in the final acts of her movies, frankie. That's so nice of you to say. In a Lonely Place is a different kind of Gloria for me. She has to project a wider range of emotions in that film and I thought she did a very nice job. I really liked her crying at the end. I thought it was beautiful.

Hola, PKTrekkie -- Inherit the Wind? That one surprised me with you. Gone with the Wind did not. I must say, I do like the fact that you're a moll. What's up, Game? -- I think you already know my tastes in classic film but I doubt you know my musical "tastes." Giallo, eh? Who knew? Metallica and classic film... that's an interesting mix. Favorite classic film genres: 1. Hitch Psycho Rear Window Vertigo Strangers on a Train The 39 Steps North by Northwest Shadow of a Doubt To Catch a Thief Notorious Spellbound 2. Film noir Scarlet Street Pickup on South Street Out of the Past The Third Man Raw Deal Fallen Angel The Killing The Night of the Hunter The Big Heat The Asphalt Jungle 3. Westerns Once Upon a Time in the West The Wild Bunch For a Few Dollars More The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance High Noon The Searchers Winchester '73 Forty Guns Man of the West The Naked Spur 4. Horror Val Lewton and Universal. 5. German silents UFA (Murnau, Lang, Pabst, etc.) I pretty much like visual films and psychological films. Favorite music 1. Rap Eric B. & Rakim Public Enemy Ultramagnetic MCs Gang Starr Tuff Crew KRS-One/Boogie Down Productions EPMD Big Daddy Kane Beastie Boys A Tribe Called Quest 2. 80s pop Huey Lewis and the News Human League Hall & Oates Duran Duran The Fixx Thompson Twins INXS A Flock of Seagulls Prince Tears for Fears I actually prefer listening to a mix of artists versus just one. I'm into singles more so than albums.

Beautiful scene in those caps, Mr Grimes. I love that whole sequence from the time he picks her up until he almost doesn't say goodnight. And Uncle Elliot listening in on every word, knowing just what his niece is up to. I enjoy the "last evening" scene, as well. When they go out on the town, it reminds me of Sunrise. Gene then drowns Ty. If you're just humoring Lynn, why did you say this in reply to The Searchers thread: Ford's a sneaky little devil. I hate to say it, but I like him. You must have me confused with another man again. You know I'd never say such a foolish thing. That would be like me saying Gary Cooper is a good actor or that I actually watched Gone with the Wind and sort of liked it. Au revoir!

Thanks for mentioning some of your favorite silents, Jeff. I like knowing the favorites of others. It tells me a little about their personality.

Have you seen Rickman in the role? No, of course not. I did find that description of Brandon to be right on with me, though. As for Obsession, perhaps one of these of the days it will find its way to TCM or DVD or your collection. I'll have to rent Obsession. In the meantime, enjoy Harvey and The Big Heat. I already love The Big Heat, but Harvey still needs to be viewed by me. As you know all too well, I've got a lot of film dates. As for removing Ford from your list, you know I can't do that. You enjoy his films too much, despite your protests to the opposite. I'm just humoring you, Lynn.

only two? is this a trick question? Of course! oh alright i suppose......um....now let me think about this. if someone were a TRUE classics fan, they would know all sorts of genres and gloria certainly did a great job of being in many genres of film. I'm not so sure about the "true" part. I think there are many classic film fans who probably haven't seen Gloria's films noir. people might easily know her from The Big Heat with which she costarred the handsome Glenn Ford or in Bad and the Beautiful, or even The Glass Wall. but thats not to say that those movies grasped her best performances. they are famous so more people know them. oops! i said three didnt i? well you know what i mean right frankie? she was in many well known movies and isnt necessarily just known for being Ado Annie in Oklahoma b/c it is a cutise musical. I think Gloria's best performances are from her films noir, but I believe the masses know her as "Violet Bick" and "Ado Annie." i figured those two musicals would be the only ones you would ever get. heehee! they have your favorite women in them.....but you are forgetting one.......i thought you liked miss impassive.....she is in High Society isnt she? now i dont like this version even though frankie sinatra is in it, b/c grace is in it and i looooove the original better with kate hepburn and cary grant. although i usually go with the musical version of everything. Ahhh, yes, Grace. That would be another musical I'd consider getting. I actually look to get Gene and Gloria films before the highly emotional Grace. heehee! you guessed me! actually i really do like those caps. that are quite intriguing and really say a lot. they capture some of the best scenes from that movie! Thanks. I loved seeing Gloria get emotional. She was terrific in the final act of the film. did you put those last two on purpose? do i even have to ask? heehee! That's my favorite scene in the film. Gloria's rough edges are stripped away in that scene.

i'm sure he knows but he also knows you don't get off this mortal coil without watching Obsession first. What would you say to Bernard Herrman in heaven otherwise? I don't have access to Obsession but I have Pride and Prejudice on VHS. So, I'd suggest by-passing Pride and Prejudice and sticking with Ford, Lang and in between watching Harvey and Obsession, two films that have nothing in common but need to be seen by you. I like how you snuck that Irish fella's name in there. It may be best to remove his name, too. (I recommend Sense and Sensibilty myself if only because you remind me of Alan Rickman in the film) From wiki: Marianne is displeased: she considers Colonel Brandon, at age thirty-five, to be an old bachelor incapable of falling in love or inspiring love in anyone else. On the nosey!

You know the only way that will happen is if Miss Hallie begs him to. I'm just hoping Doniphon knows that I shouldn't be watching Pride and Prejudice. He better gun me down. Is she on your side? Afraid not. Or do you just want to get the girl? Nah, I'd rather Doniphon shoot me dead right now. Where's Valance and that whip of his?

To difficult to narrow down my list of favorites. The order changes all the time. I will say this though, most of them are probably American Silent's? I figured they were American silents. I was just curious to know your favorites.

Hey, Laffite -- It's weird being so serious on such a happy and carefree thread. I've gotta stop this. Now that got a huge laugh out of me. Can you believe how foolish some people are around here? I'm appalled. Hiya, Lynn, dear -- I think I should be injurioulsy hurt to think that you describe me as such. I would never think of doing such a thing. I'm going to the end of the bar to sit with Harvey and cry into my beer. I'm hurt, I tell you, hurt. (sniffles) No more Obsession talk for you, young man. At least you recommend films that a guy may like. Can you believe Bronxie and ButterscotchGreer are trying to get me to watch Pride and Prejudice? I hope Doniphon shoots me from the shadows very soon. Hola, Mean T -- i hate to imagine which one i am suppose to be. What makes you think you're one of them, Meanie Mint? i just bought The Razor's Edge on DVD!! i love this movie and didnt have it on DVD, only on VHS and a bad recording, and i just watched it again. yay! Gene Tierney!

I have the Fox DVD release of SUNRISE too. However, If I am not seeing things, the print that TCM just aired looked dramatically better than what they broadcast back in February? There has been a more recent DVD release by Eureka in Britain that was supposed to be much improved. I thought the film looked very dark and dull most of the time a couple months ago? Not so tonight! Now I wish I would have tuned in. Maybe there is hope that TCM will air the Photo-play Productions version of WINGS next month? Izcutter, claimed that they were trying very hard to obtain the rights? Even if it should have been done earlier. I desperately want to see the Brownlow-Gill Restoration. I read your mention of this on another thread. That would be very interesting. By the way, what are your very favorite silent films?

yes i can imagine u would get sent by Gloria....lol...She has many appealing qualities not only very pretty but ionnocent,sexy,very sexy actually not in a obvious way but u know it when she talks looks at u Gloria understood her appeal: "It wasn't the way I looked at a man, it was the thought behind it." Yes Avas performance was VERY good..very dramatic in it....as well though she has a scene on the beach with Gregory when there frolicking together on the beach...and u just get this feeling that Ava Gardner has come in to her own skin...just matured from the whisper beauty of 25 to the mature woman of 35...yes well worth seeing for her performance! That all sounds good to me. Ava and Gloria appeared in one film together: Blonde Fever. Ava was 23 when she appeared in Whistle Stop

Hi, AvaG -- thats her! I looooooove her..very good actress...She didnt play many lead roles correct? That's correct. What's funny is that no other actress makes me smile like Gloria does. Her mere presence sends me. I rememeber her in many movies...the one i remember most was one she did with Humphrey Bogart right? I think the pic u showed me is the movie i mean..that is Humphrey right? Yep. thanks for the pics of Gloria again! I was spoiling myself. Aas far as the movie is far as The Beach i wouldnt call it a great movie by any stretch of the imagination but she was very good in it...and as i said before she was in her prime..she just looked so beautiful to me in it..imean she always looked beautiful..lol..but there was something when she was 35 as to when she was 35...She looked well mature..well lets just say EVEN more beautiful to me then when she was 25..if thats possible.. I've never seen the film but I'm very intrigued by what I've read about Ava's character. Hiya, ButterlateGREER -- not true frankie. if they were real classic film fans they would know all her GREAT roles, silly. Okay, Silly Goose, what two films do you think most classic film fans know Gloria from? You can only pick two. but you know she is really good in Oklahoma, and i think you should see it. she has a rather big part in it next to gordon mccrae and shirley jones. i just love her songs in it! If I'm going to own a musical on DVD it may end up being Oklahoma! because of the very sweet and innocent Gloria. Actually, there is another musical I'm considering getting on DVD -- On the Riviera. those screencaps of yours.....they never fail! Uh-oh. You're trying to "butter" me up so that I watch Pride and Prejudice.

YES..me tooo i loove the mature Ava...i loved her in The Beach...i thought she was goooorgoues in that movie..she was 35...in her prime...heehee...and she loooked gorgoues i thought.... I'm considering buying the On the Beach DVD this week. forgive me u are going to kill me please send me a pic of Gloria..im sure i know her whne i see her but the pictures not coming to my mind of her...sowwy... I think most classic film fans know Gloria Grahame as either "Violet Bick" in It's a Wonderful Life or "Ado Annie Carnes" in Oklahoma!. Here's Gloria Grahame in my favorite performance of hers, In a Lonely Place

I just got SECRETS OF THE SOUL last week. Haven't watched it yet. I hope you watch it soon and post your thoughts on it. I'd love to hear them. The IMDb user review that I read had me drooling. I love psychological films and the German silent psychs are usually brilliantly visual. I have had the Kino DVD of THE LOVE JEANNE NEY for about a year. It is a fantastic movie! It looks I'm gonna have to buy that one this year. Why aren't you watching SUNRISE??? I have it on DVD. I'll post some caps from the film on this thread. Maybe tomorrow. Have you seen The Joyless Street? That's another Pabst film I'd like to see in due time.

Have you seen G. W. Pabst SECRETS OF A SOUL (1926), and THE LOVE OF JEANNE NEY (1927)? No, but both films look to be absolutely fascinating, especially Secrets of a Soul. Have you seen either film?

Don't overlook the great American Silent's though. I just haven't been moved to watch them yet. Buster Keaton and Lon Chaney are the two silent performers I'm most attracted to and that's where I'll start my American silent focus. Especially, the films of people like King Vidor, and Frank Borzage. Vidor and Borzage are two excellent recommendations. What did you think of THE CROWD when TCM ran it last fall? I assume that you haven't seen THE BIG PARADE yet? That's OK, lot's of people here haven't? TCM hasn't run the film in any form since Memorial Day of 2004! I haven't seen either film. I'm very new to classic film in general but even more so to silents. My silent knowledge is primarily German and Hitch. You'll know my silent tastes if you follow my cap posts on this thread. I'm gonna try to post a film a day until I run out. If you have THE SCARLET LETTER on VHS, it is probably an older version, and not the restored one that TCM started running in 2001? The print is much improved, and contains allot of previously missing footage. It also boast's a very fine musical score. I taped The Scarlet Letter off of TCM.

There are no snippy women on these boards. That is your imagination. Uh-huh. I know of at least one snippy girl, a couple mean girls, an indecorous girl, and a cruel cephalopod on this board. You must regard it all as a nightmare, Mr. Carlisle. Come, let me drive you to the hospital. Leave yourself in my care. You can trust me completely. Sincerely, Lilith Ritter Ooooohhhh, the ice storm! Ice storms tend to be very snippy... and blonde. Coleen Gray reminds me of a sweet girl on this board. My last romantic entanglement has probably gone back to Glasgow, Scotland. I hope the Loch Ness monster swallows him up. -- Bronxie

What's up, Jeff? -- Have you seen Victor Seastrom's great Swedish Silent THE PHANTOM CHARIOT? With it's Super-natural Storyline, it seems to be just the type of film that you would enjoy? No, I haven't seen that one but I like supernatural films, especially from the classic world. The only Victor Sj?str?m film I have seen is The Wind, which is a very good film. I may have The Scarlet Letter and He Who Gets Slapped on VHS. Incidentally, I do have Able Gance NAPOLEON by the way. And speaking of Gance, Flicker Alley is releasing the newly restored LE ROUE (1923) in early May. It is debuting on TCM at the end of this Month. That's very interesting. I bought my brother Flicker Alley's presentation of Murnau's Phantom. I hope to post some caps from that film coming up. If anyone is unfamiliar with Murnau and Lang's German silents, stay tuned, because I'm gonna post caps from all of the ones I have access to. I've only seen about 40 silents in my life, Jeff. The vast majority are German silents. I just love UFA. I believe UFA did more for the art of filmmaking than any other studio in cinema history. My three favorite directors had ties to UFA: Alfred Hitchcock, Fritz Lang, and F.W. Murnau.

Wow! Now that's a saucy little tidbit. Ford's a sneaky little devil. I hate to say it, but I like him.