FrankGrimes

Guess what screencaps will be the coming attractions for your Torture Thread? Did I say you were snippy and sour? I meant to say you were extra sweet and quite lovely. Selfishly, I've been wanting you to watch Tobacco Road again. I still am.

Bonjour, Mademoiselle G -- Just wait long enough and you can get the box set on sale or off Ebay. I think in the end it will be a far better value. Deep Discount no longer carries Ford at Fox, so I'm guessing DVD Planet is my best bet to get it on sale unless Amazon surprises me. As far as I can tell, only four titles are unavailable outside of the box. Tobacco Road is not all that good and I'm not even sure I'll watch it again since the last time I saw, which was admittedly a long time ago, I didn't like it. I like people to bathe that I have to look at for almost two hours. Even Ward Bond. Ohh, geez. Persnippety. I'm very interested in seeing Gene dirty. Hiya, BronxBabe -- So you like pouty and obnoxious actresses with thick eyebrows? All I know is that Ali MacGraw is attractive. Isn't that the point? How is it that you're single again? Don't tell me you are super snippy like a certain sour kraut.

Hiya, Ava! -- Anyhoot thank u for the welcome aboard Frank! You're quite welcome! i never got to comment on your thread sorry hun guess i missed that boat.;;anyway better late then never i say.....lol..i love your list of movie beautys there all beautiful Thanks! ...but u know who i think is the most beautiful,...hmmmmmmm AVA... Now why does this not come as a surprise to me? In terms of sex appeal, I'd rank Ava #2 for me, behind Gloria Grahame, although I'm someone who does believe Ava is the sexiest starlet of them all. I actually prefer the "mature" Ava, too.

Hola, Whistlin' Gypsy -- I really enjoyed the beautiful images you shared from Warning Shadows; it looks like a fascinating film. I especially like the ?dream sequence? or the first ?hallucination? and the shadow puppet scene. Thanks. Warning Shadows isn't on the level of Murnau or Lang, but it does have its merits. The dream/hallucination scene you speak of is foreSHADOWing. Eventually, a traveling minstrel shows the future to a dinner party if they are to act on their dark desires. The Bat also looks like a great horror film with the criminal (?) in a bat costume. If I?m not mistaken, that is Louise Fazenda as the terrified lady. Correct on both accounts. "The Bat" is a criminal in The Bat and that is Louise Fazenda as the damsel in distress. Gregg Toland, the DP for Citizen Kane, was an assistant cameraman on the film and William Cameron Menzies was in charge of "settings." I really like the look of The Bat. I'm someone who is very drawn to the look of films. I suppose that Siegfried is based on the Wagner opera, (complete with Valkyries?) and would be intriguing to watch. You are once again on-point. I will post part two of Lang's Die Nibelungen, Kriemhild's Revenge. The running time on the Kino version of Die Nibelungen is 291 minutes, so one definitely has to be committed to viewing Lang's epic tale. Hey, Jeff -- I have not seen WARNING SHADOWS at all yet, but the capture stills look very impressive! Thanks for posting these. You're very welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed them. It's hard to find any silents you haven't seen. I told MetsFan that I wanted to share some caps from the silents that I really like. I prefer the German silents because they tend to be very visual and very dark. Here is Jean Epstein's...

Thank you for the torture, Doctor J! You are the most evil girl on the board. I've never seen that Gloria Grahame pic before. I love her eyes and smile. Is she wearing Daisy Dukes in that photo? I'll pretend she is. Grace Kelly's beauty is so very natural. I just love her relaxed hair. It's too lovely. I don't think anyone wears a hat better than Gene Tierney. I just love all of her exotic hats. She knows how to wear gloves, too. Thanks again, J!

Hi, AnnieLaurie -- Welcome to the board! That is awesome...which movie is it? Thanks for sharing. The first caps are from Arthur Robison's Warning Shadows and the second are from Roland West's The Bat. Hiya, Girl with the Gorgeous Name ( ) -- Now I'm intrigued with "The Bat". I love the hanging picture and the one where he is climbing up the stairs. The mask was done extremely well from what is seen in the side view. Thanks for introducing me to this film. You're welcome. The Bat played a big role in helping inspire Bob Kane to create the character, Batman, which is my favorite superhero. I think the film is underrated. Fritz Lang and Thea von Harbou's...

Post all you want Scotty! Thanks, J-Girl! Thanks for the caps, I must see this one day. The shadows were used brilliantly to cast a malevolent presence, especially in the picture with deer antlers. The dark figure creates an intimidating atmosphere. Ooohhh, "malevolent presence." I like that! Warning Shadows is sort of a morality tale, ala The Devil and Daniel Webster. It speaks to the inner demons that lurk in the shadows of our soul. Here's another one of my favorites:

Ciao, Fordy Guns -- Damn you! Those caps from Hangman's House are phenomenal! I'm mesmerized by them. They are heavily influenced by German Expressionism. Such style! I'm still up in the air about getting the Ford at Fox box. As of the moment, I'm leaning against it. I just wish Tobacco Road were available separately. That's the title that is killing me right now. If I decide against the big Ford at Fox box, I'd look to get the Ford silents and Ford comedies boxes. Excellent caps! And I really enjoyed your corresponding words, Miss Artsy Fartsy. I haven't disrespected you. I'd never, ever, ever do such a cruel thing to you, Snippy. Ha! It's FrankGrime's Favorite Sport! Quite an interesting reply. This Grimes fella must be horrible. Hi, Bronxie -- Ali MacGraw is a very attractive woman to this fella. You better watch out. Jane Austen is not stiff Briish society stuff -- her novels are realistic and offer vibrant characters and acerbic social commentary! I'd check her out if I were you. See Whit Stillman's METROPOLITAN to understand the importance of her work. Pride and Prejudice sure looks to be British society stuff to me, but I'll trust your word. You don't like Gary Cooper? You don't want to see Ms. Greer in CHIPS or P&P?

Ciao, Boca Bronxie -- We all keep our naughty thoughts to ourselves. Although I admit to a fleeting fantasy of being a bunny rabbit chasing Stuart Whitman. But not killing him, if you know what I mean. But not killing him? I thought that's the only thing girls do to guys. But then again, that may be just the girls on this board. Costume dramas can be very emotionally potent. And MANLY. I am thinking not only of P&P but Ford's DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK. I don't mind frontier costumers, but I'm not too fond of British society stuff with formal dances and gowns. Ugh! But I can overlook such pomp if a character or story grabs me. I'm merely stubborn to start when it comes to wanting to watch a film, but I loosen up once I'm dragged to the river and nearly drowned. Some mean girl has been attempting to drown me for weeks now. Did you see Greer in GOODBYE MR. CHIPS? A lovely performance. No, and I don't plan on watching it. I've seen two Greer Garson films and that's enough. I still say the worst actress of all time unfortunately looks a bit like me. Bonjour, Mademoiselle G -- Crabby's back! You leave Mary Cooper alone, I mean Gary. You're asking for trouble when ButterHopScotch gets here. You've disrespected, let me count the ways: Greer Garson, Elizabeth Bennet, Jane Austen, Gary Cooper and ME! Shame, shame, triple shame! I haven't disrespected you. I'd never, ever, ever do such a cruel thing to you, Snippy.

Yes, I can now see your Hitch connection. Although what you don't share (thankfully) is imo the Master's, shall we say, perverseness? (i.e., he seems to revel in the fact that Ingrid has to have sex with Claude Rains, and, didn't he once say he wanted the camera to focus like a laser on Tippi Hedren's face as (I'll clean up his alleged remark) Mark is asserting his marital rights?) Yes, I tend to keep my naughty thoughts to myself... most of the time. Hitch loves to play naughty in many of his psychological films. He's very sneaky. UNDER THE TUSCAN SUN is NOT ALLURING!!!! It is rather condescending towards the female of the species. Elizabeth Bennett is a WONDERFUL ROLE MODEL for us! Feisty, intelligent, opinionated, and Greer is MAGNIFICENT!!!! I want to grab that Oscar away from Ginger. I ain't a dame! I bet Under the Tuscan Sun is a lot more alluring to this guy than Pride and Prejudice. No, not Gary Cooper. Dana Andrews. Dana Andrews isn't the worst actress of all time. That title clearly goes to Mary Cooper, followed by Greer Garson.

Hola, Bronxie! -- What exactly is your Hitch side? I don't think I want to know, but tell me anyway. Do you go around telling women they're apt pupils? Naughty little boy. And I'll trample on Miss G's line here, "dirty old man." Take Miss G.'s and my word for it -- P&P is like THE DIRTY DOZEN compared to the ultra-girlie I'm in romantic Italy and a gorgeous local is making love to me but I still don't know what to do with my life and there are serendipidous signs all around me if only I knew how to access the wisdom of my intuition and even my landlord is a hunk, in UNDER THE TUSCAN SUN. Your male chromosomes might actually change while watching it. That still sounds more alluring to me than a costumer about societal manners, wealth, and marriage. It's tough for me to take very formal stuff. Blech! I'm just hoping Elizabeth Bennet is rebellious enough for me. If she's got some fire to her, then maybe I won't drown in all the pomp. And Under the Tuscan Sun doesn't have Greer Garson in it. I'm glad you didn't ask me who I really look like. I've been told (and I've mentioneed it last year on a thread, to nightwalker) I resemble one of the worst actresses in the world. (she's so bad, she even makes Katherine Ross look animated) You look like Gary Cooper?! I wouldn't ask such a question. I'm too much of a crab to do such a thing.

Hi, MISS Champoo Floozy -- ...as long as he is all crab...that's FrankGrimes to a tea! I'm not crabby. I'm a sweet, gentle soul full of love and kindness. You of all should know how tender-loving I am, Sour Girl. I do nothing but agree with you and praise you every post of the way. I'm the warm, loving breeze that caresses your every little icy word. Hiya, BronxBabe -- I don't look like Gloria Grahame, so I don't think Frank will be visiting me anytime soon. Now do you really think I expect all women to look like Gloria or Grace or Gene? Give me a little credit. Just a little. You can't even do that, can you? I'm heartbroken. By the way, I better stay out of all this plumbing talk. My Hitch side will emerge. I've concluded that P&P is a man flick compared to UTTS. Impossible. Just like certain ladies around here.

Hi, J-Girl! I hope you don't mind me adding some caps from some of my favorite silent films.

Ahhh! Welcome to the Beauregard! Where the carpets are musty, the drapes are damp, the ma?tresse d'h?tel is frustrated, your every move will be scrutinized, analyzed and demonized by the guests and the pastries are like cannonballs. Enjoy your stay, M. Sauvage. Thanks for such a warm welcome. I only watched a little of the "savage" scene and I can tell you right now the film is definitely my speed. Extra bitey! Since I won't be around when the historic moment occurs, I'll raise a glass to you in advance... I enjoy every single one of your posts on the board... even the many wrong-headed ones. Here's to many, many more wrong-headed posts.

Any time, honey.

Why don't you go back to Prairie Dog Creek? Thanks for the honey and molasses.

I'm not the one who is crabby, Crabby.

Well, I respectfully disagree. At the end, the two men could have been re-united by anyone, Gabby Hayes for example, holding two six-shooters in his hand, aiming one at Wayne and the other at Clift: You've got your creative humor juices a flowin' today, Gabby. Well, there is actually truth to what you say. However, at the beginning of the film, Dunson decides to leave his girl and she ends up getting murdered by indians when the wagon trail she was in is ambushed. Dunson is deeply hurt by this, although he eventually buries his pain thanks to his successful business and his "son," Matt. Tess reaches Dunson through his pain. I think a woman can only reach Dunson. Red River is definitely a film about male relationships (grandfather-father-son), but such relationships can be and often are greatly affected by the women they love.

I'm not sure about that, Dobbsy. The influence of woman on man is the most vital part of Red River, although it is done so without much screen-time.

Sorry but that is the way they strike me, whether others see them that way or not. No need to say you're sorry. Just smack me, Tough Girl. Some gals just have a toughness to them but they still remain feminine. Barbara Stanwyck was a very tough gal but she was also feminine, too. She wasn't a sweet girly-girl, though. Ava Gardner's "Maxine Faulk" in The Night of the Iguana is very tough. She'll spit in the face of a guy, yet she remains feminine.

Howdy, Ken -- I prefer Red River, I wasn't sure which film you liked more since you are a Ford man. but I think that Ella Raines would have been a better choice than Joanne Dru. Ms Raines was a Howard Hawks discovery. Wow! That's an exciting thought. Ella would have definitely spiced up "Tess." Howdy, Fordy Guns -- Perhaps if Dru's character had been introduced sooner and had been given time to develop, I would have liked her more. I kind of doubt it. I think more Joanne Dru would have bothered you all the more. I didn't really get a sense of her being a "pleader", she seemed very mannish in fact. Tess attempts to be very tough but she is not. It's all for show. When she is pushed, she starts to become more of a "pleader." She pleads with Dunson at one point and then with both Dunson and Matt at the end. That bit with the arrow was unbelievable. I mean, really unbelievable. Hawks tends to force his heroines to act like men and I find it phony unless it's purely in fun. Some gals are very tough, ala Barbara Stanwyck. It doesn't mean they are "mannish," though. I actually like the arrow scene. It's a very interesting "meet cute."

She's so very effective at knowing what tortures you best! Ohhh no, that means more Greer Garson, Gary Cooper, and Celine Dion are headed my way then. I need to find my lonely place. Of course, if you would be nice and the gentleman you claim to be, Ranse (and admit I'm right), no such extreme measures would be necessary. A gentleman? I'm no gentleman. Would a gentleman call you a "floozy"? I think not. I'll admit you are right when you are right. I'm still waiting for that moment. Are you gonna spend your final posts before 10,000 calling me horrible names? I'm starting to feel weepy like Jackie. There's only so much hurt one man can take. And to think, I'm nothing but sweet and kind to you, Snippy Squaw.

You're the snippy one You must be hungover. Don't you know who you are talking to, Snippy Squaw? and you know where you can go. Francie's room to watch the fireworks? Theresa will send you there---express. Why must you always look to Sweet T to do YOUR dirty work? The poor lass.

That's absolute rubbish and you know it, you're just deliberately being provoking. That does not sound like something I'd do. Once again, you must have me confused with another man. I'm always very serious and you would be the very last person I'd provoke. You are plenty snippy enough without me prodding you.

Hiya, Jackie -- Oh, geez.... you made me cry with screen caps again. How pathetic is it to be sitting at the computer crying over a picture of John Wayne looking at the ground? I guess this Ford fella is all right if he can make a woman cry. Frank- this is my new screen saver- it works perfectly on my desk top, thanks to John Ford's off center framing. I didn't think much of the picture at first, but when it was blown up nice and big on my desktop, I just loved it. Every time I turn on my computer, I smile. I must say, I really like you, Jackie F. Any gal with a "Laurie Jorgensen" screensaver is lovely in my book. Ciao, Missy G -- He has good intentions but he'd have been dead the first week. That speaks to his inexperience but not his sacrifice and commitment. Marty and Ranse take the big final step, unlike those two cowards, Ethan and Doniphon.