FrankGrimes
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Hi, Unkown Girl -- Welcome to the board!
i know frankie doesnt know who loretta is. heehee!
I know exactly who she is. She's "Hot Lips."
by the way you better stop posting grace pics, i am on the floor about to faint!!!
never mind keep posting more.
I like your style new board member.
Hey, Miss G(lory Hound) -- What are we going to do with Frank? He's a
little out of control tonight. I'd hate to have to plug him one but if he keeps it up
with the lipstick and mascara cracks....
If you do, I'll make you cry. Wait a minute. You don't cry. You're a crocodile girl.
It's Theresa that cries a lot. Whatever happened to that girl, by the way. She used
to be one of my favorites but she's nowhere to be found.
maybe I'll just flood his inbox with pictures of Gary.
You and some other crazy gal already do that. I know Gary was the most popular
pin-up girl during World War I, so you don't have to send me any more pics.
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Hi, Coop's Ex-Girl -- Sometimes I think you want us to beat you up!!
That doesn't sound like me.
You're just jealous b/c his makeup looks better than yours.
I admit it. I had to accept the truth: Coop in his lovely lipstick and dazzling mascara could not be matched. He truly is a doll.
Hola, Miss G -- I wasn't going to break this to you before, but after that you deserve it.
Your wife is cheating on you...and guess with who? Small blame to her.
Ohh, that. Carole tends to be very warm and friendly with other actresses. I'm okay with it.
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Where did you find that picture? I think that's the film I'm talking about. Coop plays
Loretta's older, mean sister. They love the same guy, but when Coop goes off to
war, Loretta ends up stealing his man. It's an interesting triangle film and you
know how much I love triangle films. I especially like to discuss them on the board.
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Thank you FRANKIE darlin'?
She's just used to saying that. It's like a reflex. It's rare you do anything for her
or anybody around here, so can you really blame her? I suggest not posting Gary
Cooper pics. The board has reached "tilt" with Coop.
He doesn't even know who Loretta Young is.
Didn't Gary Cooper play Loretta's sister in a film one time? She seems
vaguely familiar.
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Hey, Chris! -- Try it now. You still may need to wash out your eyes.
I just got out of the shower. I needed a good scrubbing after seeing Angie wearing nothing but a "red X."
Actually, the pic is gone again.(Look below Scarlett.)
Scarlett who?
Hiya, Miss Scarlett -- Ha! I've since improved since I shot my first Yankee. I can now get 9 out of 10.
So there's always a chance one Yankee may sneak on by. I like those odds.
Hola, ButterscotchGrace -- by the way frankie, april didnt ruin anything!!
Who the heck is April? I feel for the poor girl because that's quite a snippy name. It just screams wrong-headedness.
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What's the score, Ollie? -- Talk about fate catching up with me. I used Bronxie's pun in my reply back to her and I take the bullet. Meanwhile, Bronxie makes off with all the laughs. Well, at least I got to live a few weeks while loving Gloria. That makes it all worth it.
By the way, does everyone around here carry a gun or is it just those who take aim at me?
Does that coffee shop of yours need some eye candy?
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Did you just see Gloria in THE COBWEB? I have a "thread" (get it? get it? Cobweb, thread? Ah, nuts, hey, NUTS, mental clinic? Get it? Get it?)
I taped it but didn't watch it. That's me in a "nut"-shell.
Champagne and pizza.
That sounds like a decent compromise.
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Hi, J-Girl! -- Scott and Gery, I finally saw "The Hands Of Orlac" and now
I'm able to die in peace. Connie showed his brilliance once again in this film
making his hands look like they had a life of their own. Hope both of you can
see it one day. I was thrilled to find this picture and wanted to share it with
you two.
Did you buy the DVD? I'm gonna buy the box set later this year. I can't wait to
see The Hands of Orlac. That Connie pic you posted is fantastic.
Have you ever seen Mad Love?
Hey, Chris! -- I can't see the Angie photo. My eyes could really use a
washing after being exposed to two Gary Cooper photos.
Bonjour, Miss Scarlett -- I've been meaning to thank you for posting the photos
of Claudia Cardinale, Boris Karloff, and Carole Lombard. Carole is luxurious looking
in her pic! Claudia is so soft and sweet in her pic. It reminded me of some of the
Natalie Wood photos you posted. Thanks for posting two of my favorite gals.
I also liked the Fonda & Stewart photos and the Grant pic. You just took it too
far after that. You always find a way to ruin things, don't you?
You just want to see bloodshed. Don't think for one second that I don't know the
Miller gang is made up for four bloodthirsty ladies who pretend to be cute.
Hey, they wear the badges. I'm only the lookout---because I'm an expert markswoman.
You're right about that. You're an expert at leaving marks, woman.
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Those male actors had to be on the set so early in the day, it is a wonder how they found time for all their extra-curricular activities.
Why do you think Gary Cooper slept on the set all the time?
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I like the "later, mature" Claire best. I love her dark eyes.
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Hey, Chris -- I think lovely is not too wrong a word for this film. It's not one I watch often but it surely stays with you. The use of the langauge in the movie is just so eloquent. It is something Americans have never really been able to fully capture.
That's a very true statement. Our (American) usage of the English language lacks romanticism. But I also believe the uncommonness of the different forms of the English language makes it all the more romantic to many of us.
The reverence the sons show their parents, especially their mother, even when they disagree is quite touching. I think even the scene where the boys are arguing with their father is in its way still respectful because part of it is the way they feel their father is being treated. There is frustration but they are not flat out rude. Their dofferences are not reduced to a shouting match but more of a heated debate.
Very true. The respect level for the father and mother are very high and I believe this to be because the children have also been treated with respect. You feel as if everyone in that house is respected and loved. There is discipline but the love behind the discipline is strong. Discipline without love is rarely respected.
The dinner scene is very strong. I think Gwilym (Donald Crisp) would have discussed the union with his sons but he disapproved of doing such a thing at the supper table. Supper was not the appropriate time because he believed no one should talk during supper. Would Gwilym have listened to his sons after supper? Not at all. But he could not stand for what he saw as disrespect to the family.
And the women wait. They wait for their men to come home and come home safely. Each return a blessing and that the work has passed safely, for now.
I think this is where some may see Ford as not being a positive director for women. Some of the Ford films I have seen to date, the women have played a subserviant role to the men. They were taking care of their men. The men were the focal points of their lives. Barbara Stanwyck ain't showin' up in Ford country.
I'm someone who loves Ford's women, especially Maureen O'Hara. Is it because I want a woman to wait on me hand and foot? Of course! What man doesn't? I'm actually teasing, although there's truth in my jest. The real reason why I love Ford's women is because I think he captures the feeling of love from a woman's point of view perfectly. I'm absolutely blown away by Ford's gentle touch with women. His women say so much with their body language, their eyes, and their soft caresses. Their love is strong and it's rarely rushed.
How Green Was My Valley and Rio Grande both feature a similarly powerful moment of love and it's done by the simplest of means: a man and woman holding hands. What more needs to be said than that? The simple things in life really are the best when love is behind it.
Is it from this movie where they talk about the father may be the head of the house but the mother is the soul? And she, the best she can, is what holds it all together.
I believe you are correct.
Broken hearts flourish here but they flourish beautifully.
Very much so.
Hi, Jackie F -- Those were the most beautiful caps I've ever seen.
Thanks. I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the next Lubitsch musical that you watch. You've got an audience.
Dydd da, Fordy Guns -- I'm sniffling at the office! What a lovely, lovely encapsulation of the hesitant, thwarted love between Angharad and Mr Gruffydd.
Thank you. I like "hesitant, thwarted love." I'm a big sucker for that.
(Theresa will just about have kittens when she sees this pictures of Walter)
Who? I used to know a young girl named Theresa. Used to.
It's so interesting to see the screen captures because I can study the details caught in each frame, the background and the way Ford frames his characters. I noticed the verdant greenery framing Angharad in the doorway, the shadowy form of Mr. G. standing in the doorway as she races away from his house in the night, and the furnishings---so well chosen and everything astonishingly realistic, yet serving dramatic as well as decorative purpose.
I have actually learned a lot from taking screen caps. A LOT. I also highly recommend watching a film you have seen before with subtitles on. It's amazing what you don't always catch.
The "shadowy Mr. G" cap is actually not of his house. His house is on the left. The house at the bottom of the street does show a man looking out the door and a woman looking out the window.
One thing I believe either you, Jackie F, and/or Lynn have pointed out is Ford's usage of lights. Many indoor scenes will feature a light source in plain view. It really does add to the mise en sc?ne. I love the lamp post in the foregound of the "shadowy" cap you referenced.
Ford's mise en sc?ne is phenomenal, by the way. His environments tend to be very warm and inviting.
This is truly one of those films you can watch endlessly, like Vertigo, and pick up so much. The dialogue leaves so much unspoken. I can almost see the lines Ford might have put a red pencil through in the script (he was known for paring down dialogue like that). When you expect an answer to a spoken question there is none, and where you expect an explanation, it is left unsaid. It supresses so much which in turn builds up the emotional fullness of the exchanges.
From what I have seen to date, less is definitely more with Ford. You can tell his silent film experience was invaluable. He knows how to tell a story visually first and foremost, and I find this to be extremely vital. Don't get me wrong, I love my "talkies," but my preference will always be for the visual. Ford is definitely a "feel" director. Well, at least the films I have seen of his suggest this.
ddiolch 'ch
Da chi.
SPOILER for How Green Was My Valley!
For the first time I am wondering now if the ending of the movie does not posit some hope for the couple? Maybe Mr. G. will not be going as planned? How could he leave Angharad after this!
My belief is that he doesn't leave Angharad. The circle of life sees the loss of one life and the bringing together of two others. The bigger question is, would the Valley accept Mr. G and Angharad?
A bit of trivia: Maureen O'Hara named her daughter "Bronwyn" after Anna Lee's character.
I didn't know that. What a wonderful tribute.
Doesn't it seem as though perhaps Hew might have gone on loving Bronwyn as he grew into a man?
I'm sure Huw would always have special feelings for Bronwyn, but I believe he would have grown out of his childhood crush. Huw just wanted to grow up fast since he was years younger than the rest of his siblings.
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You know, I think that's actually a pic of Frank. He's just proofreading his write up on the High Noon love triangle that he said he would post this past weekend. I think his review of The Fountainhead and several others movies are in there too. It must be good b/c he's really into it.
So which member of the Miller gang are you? The Goddess is definitely the chicken of the group. She's always telling you and those two invisible Coop gals to get me. When will she ever fight her own battles? At least I know you're going to stand up to me. I respect that. I'm guessing Mrs. James Dean Gable is Frank Miller because she must be locked away in prison. Her train will never arrive at the station, so I've got plenty of time to proofread my blasting of Coop and his films. Does ButterscotchGrace even know she's in the gang? Let me guess, she can't decide which skirt to wear to my funeral. That girl is so damn picky.
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That's my favorite scene, as well. Ginny attempts to pretend to be something she's not in an effort to impress Dave but Dave sees through that right away. It angers him that Ginny cannot give him the intellectual stimulation that Gwen can. But when Ginny tells him she is what she is and that she loves him no matter what, he takes pause. How bad could life be with someone who adores you and will do anything for you?
I really feel for Dave because he was really turned on by Gwen's intelligence and her shared interest in writing. She motivated him like no other woman could. On the flip side, Ginny is going to unconditionally love Dave like no other woman could. She worships the ground he walks on.
Even though tragedy ends the film, I believe Dave and Ginny's marriage would have been tough for Dave. He would get frustrated and angry over his inability to be creative and he would ultimately take it out on poor Ginny.
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Who is that actress from One Sunday Afternoon? I love her make-up!
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I guess I'm not familiar with the clinical definition of frigid---but I always associated it with emotional and psychological fear, not some sexual dysfunction---so in this respect I think we mean the same thing about Gwen's behavior.
Hey, we do mean the same! I always take the word "frigid" to mean a woman (or man) doesn't want to put out sexually. A fear of intimacy is a whole lot more than sex. It's what you stated above. Gwen's intimacy problem was deep and heavy. I feel for Gwen. I feel for Dave. I feel for Ginnie. That's why I love Some Came Running. It's a tortured triangle film.
I interpret even back-handed compliments as flattering to me.
Why does this not surprise me, Miss G(reedy)?
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(And I don't know what to think of FrankGrimes' selection. The Ford pixies must have got to him.)
I don't know what came over me. I better make up for my slumming.
The two-headed coin in Only Angels Have Wings
The locket in For a Few Dollars More
The doll in The Night of the Hunter
And my very favorite and one of the most defining props in film history, Harmonica's harmonica in Once Upon a Time in the West
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NOW you've done it! You've committed yourself. You now have to post those
threats. I think it will engender a lively reaction and the thread could use some
stirring.
You just want to see bloodshed. Don't think for one second that I don't know the
Miller gang is made up for four bloodthirsty ladies who pretend to be cute.
Maybe some Maddy Carroll, Miriam Hopkins, and Pat Neal would spice up that
laborious thread.
Be our guest. We can take anything you dish out, mister.
You're right about that. The second I posted some Grace Kelly pics on the "Coop"
thread, they would get buried by lipstick Coop and the cleanly-shaven... legs Coop.
I ain't fallin' for that trap.
It's too bad I don't have They Came to Cordura on DVD.
I do! We ALL do over there.
So post some Rita caps from it!
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Hyer's motivations come across as simply frigidity.
I actually didn't think she was frigid. I thought she had issues with being emotionally naked above all else. She was petrified of intimacy for emotional reasons.
Thanks for the compliments---I think.
My compliments to you always glow, do they not?
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You sure are pretty when you are talking nonsense, Hallie.
I'm teasing you. You are making wonderful sense. You are correct about the dramatic kiss being enhanced by shadows and a music swell. That's a fantastic memory you have there.
Dave is the emotional aggressor throughout, which is what I'd expect. Gwen has so many pins in her hair and she's scared to death to remove them. Dave somehow gets to her, though.
I really enjoyed the scene between Ginnie and Gwen in the classroom. It was amazing to see how different Dave's women were. Ginnie would do anything to love Dave. She laughs, smiles, and cries all in that scene. That's Ginnie. Gwen was the exact opposite. In fact, the actual sight of Ginnie confirmed Gwen's belief that Dave wasn't good for her. How could Dave like this "brainless bimbo"? Dave was still a skirt chaser in Gwen's mind. I always took it as if Gwen was looking for an excuse to remain in her prison. She didn't want to be free.
I haven't seen enough of Martha Hyer to speak of her lack of acting ability, but I most certainly defer to you with that. I almost always take your word as gold when it comes to classic film actors and actresses. All except for Gary Cooper, Clark Gable, and Vivien Leigh. You are foolishly blind with them.
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Now you have gone too far. Two Coop pics is the quota. No more. Do you want me to start posting Grace Kelly and Katy Jurado pics on the "Coop" thread?
Maybe some Maddy Carroll, Miriam Hopkins, and Pat Neal would spice up that laborious thread. It's too bad I don't have They Came to Cordura on DVD. -
Yes, but on the screen you have to be able to see the inner turmoil, I didn't see any from Hyer. The words she said bespoke of it, but her voice and facial expression (lack of) belied them. I would want to see that the control was just a facade---grimly maintained, but still just a facade.
I don't know how one girl can be so wrong at all times, but you constantly make it so.
I'll have to watch her dramatic scenes again to see if I felt her inner turmoil or not. I know in the two viewings I have had of the film, I did. But you are probably correct, I most likely felt her pain because of the words she said above else. Having said that, I will say that her and Dave's kiss was volcanic to me because of how I felt about her being pent up. I could feel her letting all of herself go. She was free and very open at that moment. Dave was bringing her to life.
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Ohhh, I guess one little Coop picture doesn't really hurt anyone.
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I still think Martha Hyer's limitations as an actress showed in the role. The part itself is not badly written, but there is something rather bland about Martha H. and I think a more complex personality might have made more of it.
I didn't think of "Gwen" to be bland. If anything, she was all tied up in emotional knots. I felt Martha's restrained performance to be right on. She was full of fear and thusly guarded. She was the type of woman who didn't want to show her inner torture. She was hiding her pain, especially from "Dave."
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You were doing so well until you ruined it with that last one.
Films from the 80's
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What's up, Posi Punk -- My favorite films from the 80s are the comedies. They always cheer me up and/or relax me. Celluloid Kid's list had many of my favorites on it.
Some of my favorite 80s films that haven't been mentioned are:
Blood Simple
The Empire Strikes Back
Big Trouble in Little China
The Naked Gun
Strange Brew
Blow Out
Spies Like Us
Fletch
Running Scared
One Crazy Summer
Caddyshack
Top Secret!
Better Off Dead
Super Fuzz