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  1. Hi, Jack -- Welcome to the board!

     

    Why do you feel compelled to add pictures from the movies? Discuss the movie,

    disect it if you must but we don't need to see a graphic of what you are talking about.

     

    Since film is a visual medium, I believe seeing images from a film helps to enhance

    my words and posts. I also believe images are a unique form of communication.

    They will often say things words cannot. I particularly like the combination of the two.

     

    Ultimately, I guess I'm just greedy. I don't want to eliminate black-and-white because

    of color or destroy silent because of sound. Must I choose? It sounds as if you

    want me to choose only one form of communication. Is that what you wish for me to do?

     

     

    Especially LARGE one?

     

    I usually resize my caps not to blow out a thread, but if another member has already

    blown a thread out, I don't always resize. It usually depends on the thread where I post.

     

    I look forward to reading your words on film.

  2. You got Vera Cruz! I love that movie.

     

    ;) I'm thinking that's a Coop film I may enjoy quite a bit.

     

    By the way, who's the tall chick in those photos Whistling Gypsy posted? I love her lipstick! Hot and sexy!

     

    Lol! Girls---don't let him get away with that!

     

    Badges? I'm not afraid of no stinkin' badges! I'm just wondering how much lipstick Coop's girl has to wipe off her face in those Coop dreams of hers. I bet Coop gives her make-up tips before they make out. A guy has to look his prettiest at all times. Even prettier than his girl.

     

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  3. oh yes! i have such cute little avatars i could use. they are raining on our parade!!!! heehee! we should all go on a strike. ;)

     

    I say y'all should go on strike. Immediately! Could you, please? Pretty please.

     

    By the way, who's the tall chick in those photos Whistling Gypsy posted? I love her lipstick! Hot and sexy!

     

     

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  4. A beautiful scene, quite unlike any other in movies when you think about it. Poor Scarlett, dreaming she's wandering lost in the dark and the fog....the dark and the fog? A film noir! I told you so!

     

    It's a very dark film. :D Scarlett IS my very favorite femme fatale, though. Rhett couldn't resist grabbing that tigress by the tail. I'm pretty sure Rhett will look to grab her tail later on, too. That's my epilogue.

     

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  5. My Main MANN, ChiO -- I think that we all would agree that in the case of certain films, the casting decisions are paramount.

     

    I'm with ya. Viv's portrayal of "Scarlett" has actually become my favorite female performance to date. Can you tell I'm a sucker for emotionally-erratic women? Scarlett is at the top of the heap for me.

     

    For GWTW, as an example, the casting of Vivian Leigh was extremely important and, given the number of actresses considered and given screen tests, it would not be a stretch to conclude that the director of the screen tests was the most critical element of the movie's success.

     

    Is that so? Hmmmm. Mischief is afoot.

     

    Coincidently, I just happened to learn today in starting to read a book critically analyzing the work of a certain director, that Selznick plucked him from Broadway semi-obscurity and hired him as a talent scout and director of screen tests for several movies, including GWTW.

     

    The director? Why, Anthony Mann, of course. Now begins a complete reevaluation of the movie.

     

    Fascinating! I never knew this. Selznick does have an eye for talent: Mann and Lewton.

     

    P.S. Mann also directed the screen tests for REBECCA.

     

    I didn't know this, either. The Rebecca DVD has some screen test footage on it, too. The shots are very basic; not much movement in the scenes that were included on the DVD.

     

    Luckily there is no evidence that Samuel Fuller or John Cassavetes directed screen tests for any John Ford movies. If otherwise, my entire world would be turned upside down.

     

    :D That one got a huge laugh out of me.

     

    How can one write a Mann book without delving into his films noir?

     

    Hola, My Main Pain, Goddess -- Well, perhaps she's some kind of angel, sweet I'm not sure about.

     

    Scarlett is a very sweet angel... in her own special way.

     

    I adore that scene! Scarlett is so very much herself! She doesn't care a thing in the world if only she can have fun. That ball has so many moments like that...when she pretends to give her wedding ring "for the cause" and when she's seen tapping her feet when she's supposed to be a serious and decorous young widow. And Rhett sees it all.

     

    Did I mention that Scarlett was an unselfish sweet angel? :D

     

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  6. Hallie realizes Tom was adding on to make room for her.

     

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    Hallie pulls the box closer to her on the carriage as if she is pulling Tom closer to her.

     

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    Doniphon's name is being said while we also see a framed portrait of Mr. Peabody.

     

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    Hallie, Link, and Pompey all look to Ranse to see his response. They all know the truth.

     

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    Ranse looks into Hallie's eyes.

     

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    After all these years, Ranse has decided to come clean.

     

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    Hallie takes care of Ranse while Tom "mocks" his protecting a woman. Hallie is impressed while Tom feels jealous.

     

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    I like the next sequence of caps because we first see Hallie angry at Tom but she soon lightens up after he pays her a compliment.

     

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    Hallie AND Nora are embarrassed she (they) cannot read. Nora's face is an honest one while Hallie's is a dishonest one. She's trying to laugh off her hurt.

     

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    Ranse is quickly able to get back in good graces with Hallie by apologizing to her. He's very kind to her.

     

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    Ranse shows confidence in Hallie. He believes in her, which will go a long way with her.

     

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    Ranse also pays Hallie a wonderful compliment by telling her she's smart. Hallie lacks self-esteem, so she really responds to such encouragement.

     

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    Hallie takes her "trapped" frustration out on Link and his daily routine.

     

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    Immediately after yelling at Link, Hallie smiles excitedly at Ranse. Ranse has lifted her spirits. She's starting to feel hopeful.

     

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    Ranse offers Hallie the potential of a bigger world and she dreams it to be.

     

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    Liberty Valance enters the restaurant and Hallie's reaction is of fright. She's very worried about Ranse's well-being.

     

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    Tom mocks Ranse's idealistic thoughts of a town without violence. The irony is that Tom "thanks" Ranse for "saving his life."

     

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    Hallie once again comforts Ranse. She's clearly concerned about him.

     

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    Tom walks in on Hallie and Ranse and Hallie quickly jumps to her feet as if she's been caught cheating on him. Well, in a way, she is.

     

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    The following sequence of caps is very interesting to me. It's very grey for me. Tom tells Hallie that he's leaving town for a few days. She turns around and looks him in the eyes and says, "goodbye." Hallie watches Tom leave into the night. Does this signify they are finished as a "couple"? Is she worried about Ranse's safety with Tom out of town? Does this show that she still has feelings for Tom? I'm not sure. Any thoughts?

     

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  7. Tom confronts Ranse about his involvement with Hallie. He wants Ranse to know he's gonna marry Hallie but Ranse knows the situation. But does he truly? Is Ranse in the dark when it comes to Hallie's growing love for him? Is BronxGirl correct about Hallie being the one who has been putting marriage off with Tom? How long has Tom been "building that room"?

     

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    Tom refuses the nomination because he's not thinking of Shinbone, he's thinking about his future with Hallie. Who can blame him? I know I would be. Sadly, his "other personal plans" are not to be.

     

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    Hallie gets angry at Ranse for running away from Liberty Valance and the school, right? No. She's angry at him for running away from her. Hallie is in love with Ranse and she doesn't want him to go.

     

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    Hallie and Ranse finally share their feelings of love for each other. He decided to stand up to Valance for her and she is killing herself over the thought that Ranse could have been killed.

     

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    This cap takes on a different meaning later (earlier) on in the film:

     

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    I believe this is the only time Hallie kissed either Ranse or Tom in the film. She gently kisses Ranse's forehead a few times.

     

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    Once again, Tom walks in on Hallie and Ranse. This time, Ranse is in Hallie's arms.

     

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    What I absolutely love about the following two caps is that Hallie has her one strap down but she pulls it up. It's as if she was naked in front of Tom. And if you check the position of the strap in the preceding cap, you'll see she would have been "exposed" if she were naked.

     

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    The following cap features one of my favorite lines in the film. Tom is definitely too late (with Hallie) yet he was right on time (with saving Ranse).

     

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    "I'll be around." The line of a jilted lover. The line also works because Doniphon was always around for Hallie.

     

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    Ranse sees the cactus flowers. Even though he asks Hallie later on about who placed the cactus flowers on Tom's coffin, he knows. He's just afraid he's lost Hallie forever. Has he?

     

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    Hallie doesn't hesitate in answering Ranse. This worries Ranse to no end. Hallie is unafraid to admit her feelings for Tom now.

     

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    The portrait of Abraham Lincoln over Pompey's shoulder is a nice touch by Ford.

     

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    Ranse's classroom gives Hallie something to look forward to each and every day. She's starting to bloom as a woman. She's out of her rut. Of course, she still hasn't lost her impatience or the temper that accompanies it.

     

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    I like this shot because we see Ranse and Hallie working together as a team, as a couple. The classroom draws them closer and closer to each other.

     

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  8. Howdy, Miss Subjective -- Now I see what you mean about you keeping

    your mouth shut. You have no idea what you are talking about. :P That's a tease.

     

    I may be wrong in my impressions and opinions, because they're based on gut

    reactions and not analysis and that's why I don't find it easy to put them down---I

    mean about films that are really, really personal to me. For other movies it's not

    a problem, but Liberty Valance, like The Misfits, is territory of the soul and the

    words are hard to find. The images are up there on the screen and they speak

    for me.

     

    I'm not expecting film analysis from anyone. I much prefer reading words that

    come from the heart more so than the mind. You know that I'm someone who

    enjoys the "feel" of a film above all else and you are someone who taps into this

    better than most. So I don't want to see you hiding your emotions in Monument

    Valley ever again or I'm gonna borrow Valance's whip.

     

    Furthermore, most people like and admire the character of "Ransom Stoddard

    Attorney-at-Law" and I don't anymore so I'd rather not stir that particular pot.

     

    Why not? It's not as if he's an untouchable character like some others. And I know

    darn well you enjoy discussions of all kinds. No need to be shy, especially around me.

     

    And I don't think Hallie was in love with him, either. She loved him, but that's

    different. And he opened her mind and imagination---he did not open her heart. Now

    there you go, making me say more than I wanted!

     

    I wanted you to say it! Swoon.

     

    I believe there's truth in what you say about Hallie not being "in love" with Ranse

    in the present. I do believe she still loved him, though. Where I disagree with

    you is in the past. I do believe she was "in love" with him when she fell for him.

     

    Did Ranse "open Hallie's heart"? Maybe not. I think he truly reached her heart, though.

     

    You're right. Laurie Jorgenson is better. She just shies a few dishes at a man and

    is done with it. None of these internal anguishings for her.

     

    I actually think Laurie has serious internal anguishings. She attempts to bury them

    under her outward emotional outbursts. I think Laurie is more of a hopeless romantic

    than Hallie, though. She loves hard. Hallie loves soft.

     

    I fully admit I didn't understand 80% of what was written, that kind of analysis

    always leaves me at sea. You see, Frank!

     

    Guess what, Cactus Flower? I'm not one who goes for the heavy analysis of film

    if it incorporates language that loses the reader. I'm a lot closer to you on the

    subject than you realize. Seriously. I write as I talk. I had a writer friend of mine

    tell me that my writing style is "conversational." I happen to agree with him.

     

    Those Blu-Ray caps you posted are spectacular!

     

    Howdy, Bronx Blossom -- How is your mom doing, Barb? How are you holding

    up? No! I didn't say it was a hold up. You can put your hands down.

     

    I can enjoy this movie on so many levels, not the least of which is a purely

    visceral one: Wayne's nonchalant kick to Strother Martin at the restaurant. I can

    expound all day about what Ford REALLY meant, but when you come right down

    to it, the cactus rose expresses more than words can say.

     

    That was perfectly said. Print the legend.

     

    You are right imo about Hallie being the restless one, wanting something new. That's

    why for me she seems ambivalent about Tom.

     

    I'll tell you what, I have a tough time figuring out "Hallie." The Goddess, Jackie F, Lynn,

    and your opinions about Hallie have made me think and rethink her feelings. She's a

    rather complicated simple woman. It's something that really attracts me to her. I like

    complex women.

     

    She's got a temper, of course, but I call it the "Ford temper", the one where

    characters kick others in the butt, throw hats on the floor, dole out tough-love

    verbal abuse, etc. Hallie doesn't kick anyone in the butt of couse, lol, but she

    does gives Andy a hard time. But I really love her performance, as opposed to THE SEARCHERS. There she's just whinily assertive; in VALANCE, she's got much

    more emotional depth.

     

    I'm just now watching Ford films, so the characters and themes of his films are

    not within my grasp yet. But I do love your "Ford temper" comment. I especially

    love it from the women. I really enjoy emotional outbursts versus quiet inner strength.

     

    To me, Hallie's outbursts are based on embarrassment and frustration. When she

    snaps at Ranse for not being able to read it's out of embarrassment. She feels tiny

    and unimportant at that moment. When she snaps at Doniphon, it's usually because

    she doesn't like his mocking and aggressive approach to things. He's "unfeeling"

    which is the exact opposite of Ranse. When Hallie snaps at Link (Andy Devine) it's

    because she's sick and tired of his day-in, day-out routine. She wants to escape

    what she views as a trap. In time, she longs for such a trap because her new trap

    is probably colder to her. It's not warm like home.

     

    I'm not crazy about Stoddard's character. Maybe it's the way Stewart plays it, I

    don't know. He's real quick to run back into that convention hall after learning the

    truth of the gunfight, and claim political victory.

     

    I think Ranse felt he was doing right for Shinbone at the outset. I believe he eventually

    loses his way through time.

     

    He's somewhat condescending as he's teaching the little class.

     

    I just thought Ranse felt as if he was playing an important role for the community

    and that the community was starting to fully embrace him. He was becoming a

    somebody in Shinbone.

     

    I like the way Pompey doesn't remember the "all men are created equal"

    passage. Significantly, he never says it out loud because he knows it really

    isn't true. Rance (and Ford) tells him (and us) that a lot of people forget it. Are

    there any other instances of racial tolerance in his movies?

     

    That moment was definitely meant to be a political statement by Ford. It was

    heavy-handed but I also believe it to have been very brave.

     

    I'm not sure if Hallie ever really loved Rance. She loved what he represented.

     

    I'm still on the side of Hallie really loving Ranse, but I also believe she had strong

    feelings for Doniphon, too. My reason for believing Hallie loved Ranse was because

    she was always DEEPLY concerned for his safety. Almost all of her actions were

    towards Ranse and his well-being. If a woman is that concerned for the well-being

    of a man, it usually means they are in love with him. I think Ranse was in Hallie's

    system pretty good.

     

    How did Ranse get in Hallie's system? I believe Hallie LOVED how Ranse made

    her feel important and very needed. She wasn't just a cook or a waitress, she was

    a WOMAN. Hallie mothered Ranse back to health twice and she enjoyed doing it,

    too. You can just feel her gentle touch with Ranse. That's the "needed." Hallie

    also liked that Ranse helped her improve herself, her self-esteem. She felt so

    much better about herself thanks to Ranse. She also helped lead the classroom.

    That's the "feel important"

     

    Hiya, Lynn -- Loved your post.

     

    I don't think we are supposed to like Ranse. I think that was one of the things

    that drew Jimmy Stewart to the character. On the surface, Ranse is the hero who

    comes to Shinbone to help move the town and its citizens into the 20th Century. He

    comes with his fancy Eastern notions, a bit of a chip on his shoulder (would love to

    know why "no one fights my battles for me" is so important to him) and quickly

    realizes that his adventure west is not all that he has read about in fancy dime novels.

     

    If Ranse is guilty of anything at the outset it's that's he's a naive idealist. He doesn't

    understand how a town could just let violent criminal acts go unpunished. It's not

    the world he wishes to live in, so he sets out to change that world. I think that's

    admirable.

     

    He learns it will take time to move Shinbone into the 20th Century but he certainly

    feels through-out the film that he is the one to do. But he does not love Shinbone the

    way that Tom, Hallie and Linc do.

     

    I believe you are correct about Ranse not having Shinbone in his heart since he didn't

    grow up there, but I do believe he truly cared about the town... initially.

     

    Ranse and Doniphon both represent law and order but Ranse believes his way is the

    right way and Doniphon knows his way is the only way at that place in time. Things

    will change over time, though.

     

    The townsfolk would have still respected Ranse as their town lawyer (and likely he

    would have become the local judge as well over time) if he had come clean about who

    did the killing. The killing did eat at him but once he knows the truth, he still follows

    Tom's order to go back into the convention hall and take the nomination.

     

    At that moment, he seals his fate. The idealistic Stoddard that he wanted everyone

    to believe was really him would have come clean. But the opportunistic Stoddard

    who sees this as a way to get out of a dusty, dirty little town that wasn't the Western

    paradise he thought it would be, keeps his mouth closed, gets the girl and all the

    glory that comes with it.

     

    I think the biggest failure of Ranse is that he completely abandoned Doniphon. To

    me, that's a heartless move when you consider Doniphon saved his life, helped him

    maintain his political life, and sacrificed the love of his life. I'm guessing Ranse

    FEARED losing it all, so he didn't risk associating himself with Doniphon at all.

    He kept as far away from Shinbone as possible because Doniphon could have

    ruined him if he wanted to. But Doniphon chose not to. That's why he's one of

    the greatest sacrificial characters in film history. He gave all he had and ever

    wished to have and received absolutely nothing in return.

     

    Tom is the real hero of the piece. The man who sacrificed (whether he knew he

    was at the time of the shooting or not) everything to protect the town and the

    woman he loved.

     

    To be honest, I actually believe Ranse is a HUGE hero in the film. He was the one

    who started to teach the community how to read and write, helping lift the spirits of the

    elders while also providing their children (the future) a great start in life. Ranse also

    put Shinbone on the map by helping to organize their fight for statehood. He didn't

    allow the big ranchers overtake the local farmers and small businesses. Again, he's

    standing up for SHINBONE.

     

    But the biggest reason why Ranse should be viewed as a hero is that it was HE who

    stood up to Liberty Valance. It wasn't Doniphon. Doniphon was content with how

    things were. Why change? He had what he wanted. He was very comfortable.

    Too comfortable. I actually believe Doniphon was a little on the selfish side to start.

     

    Ranse showed he was willing to die for Hallie and Shinbone when he took Valance's

    challenge. He was the one putting it all on the line. Just about everything Ranse did

    in his time in Shinbone was for others. He was the one who was sacrificing, not Doniphon.

     

    Tom had said "he could live with the killing" but in the end he really couldn't. He

    died, alone, a mere shadow likely of the man he once had been. Killing a man in

    cold blood, even one as deserving as Valance, didn't sit well with Tom. It wasn't

    just losing Hallie. As Linc reminds us, he hadn't worn his gun in many years.

     

    I believe you're correct. Doniphon told Ranse, "he could live with the killing," but he

    couldn't tell himself that because he knew it was a lie.

     

    I believe Doniphon hadn't worn his gun for years because the town had become

    civilized just as Ranse wished it would. There were no more Liberty Valances to

    threaten Shinbone, so Doniphon wasn't needed. Doniphon without his gun was no

    longer a man. He was now "wearing the apron."

     

    Stoddard was able to live with the prestige that came from being the man

    everyone thought killed Liberty much better than the man who did the killing.

     

    That's almost always the case. I believe Bronxie mentioned the usage of shadows

    in her first post on the film and I believe it was a very important notation by her. There

    are a couple of ways to look at shadows in a film like The Man Who Shot Liberty

    Valance. The first is that Doniphon had become a shadow of his former self.

    The other fits the film better in that there are many faceless, nameless shadows

    behind the most famous and important people in society. Like Doniphon,

    these shadows never receive the acclaim and recognition they truly deserve.

     

    For a man whose motto is "Nobody fights my battles for me" he certainly enjoyed

    the credit that came with letting somebody else do the killing.

     

    The truth is that Ranse didn't have Doniphon do the killing. Ranse was trying to kill

    Valance himself. He was being very brave.

     

    Here's a question for you: do you think it was brave for Doniphon to hide in the shadows

    and kill Valance? Is that a fair gunfight? Thankfully for Ranse, Hallie, and Shinbone,

    Doniphon did what he did. But is it honorable? What if Valance hid in the shadows and

    killed Doniphon?

     

    But even for Stoddard there was a price. He lost Hallie along the way.

     

    I don't believe Hallie is totally lost. I think she would come around in Shinbone,

    that is, if the Ranse she fell in love with all those years ago comes around.

    I believe he would. But I also believe both will forever be haunted by the ghost

    of Doniphon, not the ghost of Liberty Valance.

     

    I find it interesting that Ranse and Hallie never had children (especially given the

    whole family angle with Ford). Was Ranse too busy with his political career to ever

    entertain the notion of children?

     

    That is very interesting. If one is to believe they had a cold marriage, that could be

    used as proof, although one could make up many reasons why they didn't have

    children or that they did but they did not attend Doniphon's funeral, etc.

  9. Hi, Shinbone Lynn -- If I were you, I'd spend less time watching the clock

    and more time watching that backlog of movies you keep promising us "dames

    of Shinbone" that you are going to get to.

     

    I'm a sneak. ;) I watched another Ford film two days ago but I haven't had the time

    to post my favorite scenes from it yet. :D

     

    That way you won't have to keep looking over your shoulder for those dangerous

    femmes. Unless, of course, you like looking for them....

     

    I'm an odd duck. I tend to show great concern for femmes fatale.

     

    Better have a a ton of cigarettes and enough whiskey to sink a ship on hand

    should those dangerous femmes catch up with you.

     

    May be the only way to placate them.

     

    More like Ford films, Cooper films, Garson films, and various others. :D

     

    Hey there, Lady of the Evening -- We can take anything you can dish

    out---except empty promises.

     

    Ow! Your claws are sharp! :P

  10. Well, she's a beatuful girl but I still think it's on the frumpy side. This one is much nicer:

     

    Frumpy?! :D

     

    I definitely prefer the pink number. It's warmer feeling to me.

     

    The director and his star of The Birds, a movie that seldom gets discussed here...

     

    :P

     

    Well... start talking. :D

     

    I have not forgotten. I still have to swat down some silly women in Shinbone yet and I'm also watching a clock.

  11. Bonjour, Mademoiselle D?esse -- Very nice photos from Vertigo. They are very, very blue.

     

    You like that outfit? I'm surprised any guy would like it. I've never liked it. I think it's on the dowdy side. In fact, the white strapless gown and the swim outfit are the only ones I care for in her wardrobe for To Catch a Thief. I have always thought Francie's clothes should have been better. But then, I've never been as fond of Edith Head as of other designers.

     

    Dowdy?! :D Ouch! Yes, I LOVE that outfit. It's very "spring fun" and fresh feeling to me. I also love how it accentuates Grace's lovely figure, especially her hips. I think she looks delicious.

     

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  12. i just thought of two other maids i cant believe i forgot about.

     

    this morning i watched There Goes My Heart and Patsy Kelly was in it. this

    made me think of Cowboy and the Lady, where patsy and Mabel Todd played

    merle oberon's maids.

     

    "you dont exactly sizzle miss." heehee!

     

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  13. What's the score, Miss Gun for Hire -- Well, no you'll probably like the

    chemistry between the performers in 2H&HN best.

     

    All righty.

     

    High Sierra is a darker film and we know how you love the dark.

     

    Yessum.

     

    But if you're expecting Lauren to be like Jean Arthur in Only Angels Have

    Wings---don't. The two movies are very similar and even use lots of the same

    dialogue but Lauren is altogether less emotional and "cooler" than Jean's "Bonnie".

    Bonnie was warm and a little silly while "Slim" is guarded and sarcastic. In fact, I

    would say her performance is very stylized and that's because she was so young

    and Hawks was guiding her every step of the way. "Slim" is his Trilby.

     

    I didn't know To Have and Have Not and Only Angels Have Wings were

    similar. Now my interest level has really gone up.

     

    But underneath the sardonic words everyone (good guys) in To Have and Have

    Not loves eachother (as long as you know the answer to "Was you ever bit by a

    dead bee?")

     

    It's that sappy? I better return to my dark and lonely place.

     

    Hey there, In a Lowenly Place (not lovely place) -- Ah-oh. My basis is v-e-ry

    similar to MissG's regarding HIGH SIERRA. TO HAVE AND HAVE NOT is the least

    "dark" of the four. We know you're a lover of the snappy repartee, but words fade -- dark

    is forever.

     

    "Dark is forever." Ooohh, I like that one.

     

    IN A LONELY PLACE is the obvious choice for your No. 1 -- two

    words, "Gloria"and "Grahame". Two more? "Nicholas" and "Ray" (even though

    those four words didn't get along so well).

     

    You know the score.

     

    I just love this line that a fella named Rod Crawford wrote about Gloria at IMDb:

     

    ' loving appreciative male company; "a bit loony." '

     

    I'm not sure about these words from Denny Jackson at IMDb, though:

     

    "She was, without a doubt, one of the finest actresses ever to grace the screen. She did, indeed, remind legions of fans of the girl next door."

     

    The girl next door, huh? Well now.

     

    "It wasn't the way I looked at a man, it was the thought behind it." - Gloria Grahame

     

    Yep. The girl next door.

     

    I hope you haven't set your expectations too high for it.

     

    I probably do. In a Lonely Place and Kiss Me Deadly are two films that

    I have very high hopes for. I have both on DVD.

     

    DARK PASSAGE is the one I anxiously await your reaction to. That's the one I went

    out on a limb in predicting that high, so don't cut it off.

     

    I find this to be very interesting because my expectation level is the lowest of the

    group for this film.

  14. Bad Day, Bad Witch -- Who says I want an antidote?

     

    Of course you don't...that's part of the spell! And you like the funny tune humming

    in your head, don't you? Pywacket is "familiar" with all those symptoms...

     

    So that's how the spell works. I may think that I don't want to be free but in reality,

    I desperately want to be free. Okay.

     

    Another couple who should have gotten married (had they avoided heights, it could

    have been a successful marriage):

     

    Now do you honestly believe Scottie and Judy could have gotten married? Explain that

    one.

     

    Good Day, Good Witch -- You picked on poor Kim? How mean!

     

    hey im trying to give up that "mean" phrase for lent, and youre not helping silly!!

     

    "Mean" is my favorite word and my only behavior.

     

    i would never pick on poor kim, but i might try. why not? she can pick on me, and she

    does!

     

    I don't believe you! Kim would never be as mean as you. That girl has no mean bones

    in her body and you're nothing but a skeleton full of meanness. :P

     

    It's much too late for the sweet talk.

     

    at least i tried.

     

    Uh-huh. You tried all right.

     

    yes i did, and ill shout it from the nearest flag pole....."from sea to shining sea", heehee!

     

    I do give you credit for going heavy on the sweetness. It's still not gonna work.

     

    what do you mean its still not goona work? but im giving it all i got....WARNING puppy

    dog pout coming, turn away quickly!

     

    Did the Bad Witch turn you into a puppy dog again? I told you to avoid her.

     

    Are you sure? Or did some of the spell spill on you to make you say that?

     

    what a question. of course im not sure. heehee! oh no!! what if it really spilled on me?

    april save me!

     

    Wait a minute. Why would you run to her to save you when she's the one who is messing

    with your mind?

     

    Ok I'll save you. The antidote is you have to sing Frankie another lullabye.

     

    Ohh, I like that suggestion. How about "Put the Blame on Mame"? I wonder if any other

    girls can sing that tune. :P

     

    is that cap of her leaning over his bed suppose to signify her "motherly" affection for

    smithy? i still dont believe that. heehee!

     

    Why, does it look as if Paula is being motherly in that shot? :D

     

    you remembered about that "beat about the bush" line? i thought you wouldnt have remembered that at all. thats too cute!

     

    Not bad for someone who hasn't even watched the film, eh?

     

    did you notice in this scene greer is sitting backwards in that chair?

     

    Now you don't think a guy would really take notice of such a thing, do you? :D

     

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  15. That was a very informative read, Arturo. Excellent!

     

    You are very correct about Linda's transformation from the young good girl to the "mature" bad girl once she came of age. She was so very young when she arrived in Hollywood although you would never know it since she always looked "mature" for her age.

  16. Hi, Miss Gun For Hire -- I think you will definitely like In A Lonely Place

    the most. After that, perhaps in this order: High Sierra, To Have and Have Not

    and finally, Dark Passage.

     

    High Sierra over To Have and Have Not? Very interesting. Is that because

    you think I'm going to fall for a certain lady? :)

     

    I hope you get around to seeing In A Lonely Place soon so you can talk about

    it....WHAT AM I SAYING???? I guess Scarlett's optimism got to me this morning.

     

    How could you say such a thing? I have a proven track record of... "talk" to you later. :D

     

    Smashing photos of the second best Miss Gun for Hire. Veronica's sad, sultry eyes

    always pull me in. She's a real sweetheart... unlike the best Miss Gun for Hire.

     

    Hey, Ollie T -- I'd vote that FrankG enjoys TO HAVE OR HAVE NOT as his

    favorite of this lot, at least initially. Bacall's dialog alone should guarantee more winks

    and chuckles, and if FrankG's anything of a Hoagy Carmichael fan, that film's music

    should have it run First Place.

     

    Your words about the dialogue and the songs are what really intrigues me about

    To Have and Have Not.

     

    What's up, ChiTOwen -- Surprisingly, MissG and I are not in 100% agreement

    on this.

     

    Surprisingly? More like, "thankfully" for your sake. Do you really want to align

    yourself with someone who actually believes Gone with the Wind is the

    greatest film of all time, Mr. Kane?

     

    My prediction:

     

    5. TO HAVE AND HAVE NOT

    4. HIGH SIERRA

    3. DARK PASSAGE

    2. IN A LONELY PLACE

    1. GONE WITH THE WIND --"Frank(Grimes)ly Lauren, I don't (twitches head &

    shoulder, curls lip) give a (blows cigarette smoke into her face) hill of beans (walks

    into the night fog)."

     

    Bogie and Bacall in Gone with the Wind. I love it!

     

    Can't you just see Bogie putting up with Scarlett's antics? No? Me, either.

     

    So you actually believe I'm gonna like To Have and Have Not the least, eh?

    What's your basis? I'm very curious to hear.

     

    My expectation level goes as follows:

     

    1. In a Lonely Place

    2. To Have and Have Not

    3. High Sierra

    4. Dark Passage

    5. Gone with the Wind :P

     

    By the way, do you think I'm gonna like Gone with the Wind?

  17. Hi, Triple H -- I just thought too bad Hitchcock never directed Humphrey

    Bogart I wonder why

     

    I was trying to think of a Hitch film that would suit Bogie and I do believe one fits him

    perfectly and that's Notorious. Notorious is a Bogie-Bacall film to me.

     

     

    Here's some caps from Butterscotch's FAVORITE Cary Grant character:

     

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  18. Hola, ButtersapGreer -- I do not see one single Grant/Hitchcock film

    on your favorite list. How can you not like him in Suspicion? He's very

    sweet in that picture; the perfect husband.

     

    Ciao, Miss Dis -- I'm always amazed when you actually display good taste. Translation: DISagree with me.

     

    Sorry to "dis" you.

     

    :P

     

    I see you're finally catchin' up. Don't trip now, Tumbelina. I wouldn't want you to

    rip those stockings of yours, Lora Mae.

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