FrankGrimes
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Poor Ollie! He can't help it that he's a hungry wolf!
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For you! The other films you saw from the list are so different!
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*The Curse of the Werewolf*
*Gunga Din*
*Oklahoma!*
*Pillow Talk*
*Topper*
*A Tree Grows in Brooklyn*
How did *The Curse of the Werewolf* sneak in there?!
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That's interesting. You guessed that we'd like the films fairly similarly with a few exceptions, such as:
Belle de Jour (I'd like it more)
History Is Made at Night (you more)
In Old Kentucky (you)
Journey to Midnight (you)
Madeleine (me)
Pandora's Box (me)
Pittsburgh (you)
A Scandal in Paris (you)
Shalako (you)
And where's *One Girl's Confession* ?! You suggested that movie to me!
I'll see if anyone else wishes to guess before posting my order.
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How do you like those films?
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*My goodness! That shows you've caught up with me because not I'm seeing more and more titles listed that I've never even heard of.*
Caught up with you? Are you kidding? You've seen most every film!
*I take it those horror titles are by Hammer? Many of those I've seen but I don't recognize them by name, and the plots always kind of run together.
* Yes, there are six different Hammer films on the list. I decided to watch all the films in the collection I borrowed from my brother.
*And two BB movies? That's grand. No one seems to like her but me (except for Le Mepris, of course).*
She's very cute.
*Starting at the top, Affair in Trinidad was a movie I had huge hopes for after seeing Glenn and Rita (directed by Charles Vidor) in* *Gilda. On that score, it falls flat. Rita's character isn't as dynamic or as touching. It just seemed to try too hard to recreate the previous film. There are interesting moments, but it's not one of the best for either star, in my opinion. Rita did look great, though, no doubt about that.*
I'll save my comments until after you guess.
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Here's a looooooooong list of films I've recently watched. I know you already know I liked a couple of them, Fordy Guns. We'll see how you do with the rest. And I'd love to know how you feel about the ones you have seen.
Affair in Trinidad
At the Circus
Belle de Jour
Boom Town
The Brides of Dracula
The Climax
The Curse of the Werewolf
The Evil of Frankenstein
The Gay Bride
G-Men
Gunga Din
History Is Made at Night
In Old Kentucky
Journey to Midnight
The Kiss of the Vampire
Laugh, Clown, Laugh
Love on a Pillow
Madeleine
Night Creatures
Oklahoma!
One Girl's Confession
Pandora's Box
The Phantom of the Opera (1962)
Pillow Talk
Pittsburgh
The Real Glory
The River
A Scandal in Paris
Shalako
They Won't Believe Me
Topper
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn
Undercurrent
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*The meeting of two points is logical and scientific, most assuredly.*
*What does that mean? If I want to know.*
Didn't they teach you about the birds and bees in school? The meeting of two? Look who I'm talking to! You taught the class!
*She was lovely. Very soft.*
Ooohhh, I like soft and lovely.
*I figured it was suicide, though the thought flitted in my mind the school owner murdered her.*
I was wondering if it was even metaphorical.
*I figured it was another way of testing him by trying to hoodwink him. When Ben turns around and palms it off on Jody, like he did those horses with the farmers, it really sets things "afire" between Jody and his father.*
Very good! I believe you're right. When Ben didn't fall for Will's shenanigans, he knew he was all right.
*Some of the things Ben says to Clara sound like Rhett talking to Scarlett. He tells her she's basically "putting her money in the wrong bank" by pinning her hopes on a man like Alan. Alan being like Ashley Wilkes.*
I like that! Alan is rather similar to Ashley. Although, Ashley seemingly knew what to do with Melanie since she was pregnant.
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Hola, Kylefornia! -- It's good to see you around again.
*THIS has to be the very definition of "tortue" for Mr. Grimes.*
Believe it or not, I'm all for the new Stooge film. I hope it helps introduce them to a new generation. It sounds like boys are liking the film. I'm happy to hear that. My cousin's two sons (eight and seven), both enjoy the Stooges. I showed the Stooges to them and two girls (12 and 10). The boys were laughing, the girls... not so much.
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1. Once Upon a Time in the West
2. The Wild Bunch
3. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
4. Shane
5. Destry Rides Again
6. High Noon
7. For a Few Dollars More
8. 3 Bad Men
9. 3:10 to Yuma
10. Forty Guns
11. The Searchers
12. Johnny Guitar
13. Devil's Doorway
14. Winchester '73
15. The Naked Spur
16. The Professionals
17. Man of the West
18. The Shooting
19. The Ox-Bow Incident
20. Firecreek
I have two "Wayne" westerns in my top twenty. I don't have any Scott or McCrea.
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*Now what does that last one mean? I figured it just meant that this woman figured everything could be "explained" logically and scientifically.*
The meeting of two points is logical and scientific, most assuredly.
*I thought her brother was lovely. And I really loved the other boy, the red headed one who was so taken with the blonde. He's seemed such a nice kid.*
Michael (Dominic Guard) was very taken by Miranda (Anne-Louise Lambert). I don't blame him!
SPOILER AT HANGING ROCK
*All of that, and the manner of death of the orphan and Sister Ruth.*
Oh, yeah! What do you make of Sara's (Margaret Nelson) fate?
*What does the name mean?*
Jody is one of those male names that is shared with females.
*I laughed when Varner shows Ben the old plantation and says "The man who built this place's name is forgotten. It was the dream and pride of its owner. Now it's dust. There must be a moral in there somewhere."*
So what was Will trying to do with pushing that property off on Ben?*"Retired gentry".*
I liked those words.*Clara thinks her father is dying to be like them so he tries to "buy" everything. I'm not so sure, though I do think Varner feels some inferiority. But he's also right to mistrust some things about them. Their lack of ability to really live in the present. They bury themselves in remembrances of things past.*
I think you're right on it. I do believe Will is somewhat envious of his neighbors. And you're definitely right about their burying themselves in the past, where they are seen as important and great. Now it's only a shadow of the past.
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*That's very true...all full of poety, valentines and romantic dreams. It really is about "the bloom of youth".*
Exactly. The loss of innocence can be see as a horror story, too.
*Isn't the poor orphan girl's plight a sad one? Of course, she's the one who doesn't go and so she ends like everyone does who doesn't ever get a chance to "live".*
She's really being held back. She's the "pet." She's the vulnerable one, the one without family. Although we come to know she has some.
*Did you notice the similarity to this and Black Narcissus?*
Yes, you were very right about that. Both films feature an exotic locale, raging desires, and a constrictive setting that overtakes those who live there. What do you see as the similarities?
*I don't know, that's the thing that casts a spell. You don't really know. It's as if something dwelled up there, something not right. I sure wouldn't have tromped up there!*
Yeah, right!
*I like her. And you're right, Will and Ben are alike. Will says to him "You're a young dangerous man. I'm an old one." So right away he's making a comparison of the two of them. He sees himself in Ben.*
Very good! Will inherently trusts Ben because he seems himself. He doesn't trust his son one darn bit. His son is also named "Jody."
*She gives me the creeps! She's like something from Alfred Hitchcock or* *Peyton Place.*
Hitch loved his domineering mothers, Marnie.
*I wonder if Faulkner...the story...was trying to say with Alan and his family that the rich, "aristocratic" types were lacking in virility and too thin-blooded. It's a less sympathetic portrayal than you see in Williams' plays.*
I like that! Yes, I do believe he's taking a major swipe at those who inherit money, especially the aristocratic-types.
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*but with who?!*
It's not really about with who, but that they do it. The girls who choose to run off and do it are in a tizzy before the journey.
*Oh. That takes some of the mystery away.*
So what do you think happened?
*I never paid that close attention. You did like her.*
Yes, I came to like her. She's feisty but wanting.
*Eula is so funny. "Honey you're givin' me a fallen kidney bouncing this car around like this!"*
That sounds like you!
*It's definitely "Southern Comfort", not anything too heavy but the script has some good lines and I like the characters.*
I agree. There's a serious tone in the film but it's mostly underlying.
*No, not since i wouldn't even get close to even thinking of being with a man like that! it would be like being single only without any fun! blah. and the mother, no way. i'd have to get rid of her.
*You're gonna off the mother?!
*You don't even get close enough to reach the door so spare me.*
That's because I'm Alan! But I know what a skillet feels like.
*I can.*
Don't I know it!
*then give me abnormal!*
You've got it, Abby!
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*But how?!*
She's done the act. Those who go missing do the act.
*My goodness, when you post the caps like that, the words take on meanings and shades I never realized. But I still can't make out what happened to them. I don't think we are to ever really know, it's like you said, it seems that what it all represents is what is important, not the actual events.*
It's an allusion. The girls and Miss McCraw (Vivean Gray) all fall victim to their desires.
*I associate her with "serious acting" and that often leaves me cold.*
She's fairly playful in *The Long, Hot Summer*. She crosses her arms and turns her back, too! It's similar to *To Catch a Thief*, in that way.
*So you did like the movie or just some of the characters?*
I liked the film. It's not as deep as Tennessee Williams, but I enjoyed the story and characters. It's a good romp.
*Yes, he'd leave you in a tough spot but he'd explain before hand how terribly sorry he was about it so you can't quite hate him.*
Don't you think you'd eventually get tired of it and come to hate him for it?
*I forgot she was his sister. You're right it is like "Stella".*
She even looks like Kim Hunter.
*She seems like it. I love her "wedding plans". Hilarious. And locking the door on Will.
* You do that to me!
*That's for sure. I'm going to try to watch it tonight. I could use a long, hot summer...it was cold out today! I want the warm weather back.*
Today really was a chilly one. But I can't complain after all the warm weather we had this month.
*People think it's unusual, but I never got over being used to the Southern California climate where it's normal.*
That's not normal!
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*which one? or are we to wait eight weeks!*
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*That's a great catch! I don't think it settled in my mind until you posted the cap, the meaning of her clothes after what happened.*
She's come back to the school and all the girls are wanting to know about "it." But it's hard for her to fit into that world anymore. She's "graduated."
*Isn't it funny the most relaxed person at the school was a French woman?
* Makes sense to me! She's the experienced one at the school.
*Oh, please. I don't have a balcony and I certainly don't look like her (too bad).*
Uh-huh.
*I had to do the same. At first I didn't like her because of not liking the actress very much.*
I've only seen Joanne Woodward in *The Three Faces of Eve*, and that was before I was really into classic film. My brother wanted to see it and I watched with him.
*But I asked about Ben's feelings for her.*
I think Ben is honest about his feelings. I think he was attracted to her and loved the challenge she presented. And I do believe you are right, he was looking to overturn his reputation.
*And that's funny about Alan! I even forgot all about him, lol. That poor man and his awful mother.*
I would think you'd really hate him. He's as weak as they come. He's well-meaning and a true gentleman, but he's only going to go so far.
*I forgot about her, too!*
She's Alan's sister and she's the exact opposite of him. She'd throw herself all over a man. She's a "Stella."
*He sure is. I liked seeing Angela so loose and flirtatious.*
She plays such a character so well. You get the feeling she's a comfortable woman.
*I think he doesn't feel he understands her like he was with his wife. Clara is like her mother was and he's a bit intimidated, so he covers it by bullying. He doesn't know how to handle sensitive, refined people.*
Very good! I like that. Clara makes Will feel a little uncomfortable about himself.
*The funny thing is Clara really wants the same thing her father represents, she just fights the idea.*
I think we repressed folk always long to be outgoing and unashamed.
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*Which others have you seen?*
I just watched one last night for my next group of films.
*I guess so. It's one of those things left unexplained, I guess.*
I believe they wanted to connect Peggy with the family, that they knew she was "no good."
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*It's definitely about desire, which seems represented by wildlife and the primitive, almost primeval "Hanging Rock" and how the people in this repressed, Victorian society face such feelings.*
Yeah, "desire" is a way of describing it.
*What do you think happened?*
It's all about a loss of innocence.
*Why is taking a bubble bath Manhattan?! Most people here move too fast for such leisurely activities. This movie is as southern as southern gets.*
That's you on your balcony in Manhattan! You can't fool me!
*I'm not a big fan of Woodward or her looks, but I think she does a good job with this character. She's believably intelligent at any rate.*
What happens with me is I eventually get past looks and on to character as the film progresses. Clara is definitely my kind of woman, all the way. You were right to say she's my kind.
*Do you think Ben Quick really fell for her or is it mainly his ambition and desire to overcome his past?*
I think they are what the other needs. Ben is a go-getter. If he wants something, he goes after it. He's the exact opposite of me, I mean, Alan (Richard Anderson). Clara wants a respectful man, but she also wants a man to desire her. She's jealous of her sister-in-law.
*oh you can just imagine growing up if you're a shy, bookish girl and someone like Eula is around. a girl hasn't got a chance unless she's willing to fight fire with fire.*
Yes, those poor girls who had to deal with you, Eula! Like this sweetheart:
You had to know I'd go for her.
*Yes, they are brothers under the skin. Two of a kind.*
Right on. Just look at Will's (Orson Welles) running around with Minnie (Angela Lansbury). He's a rascal.
*I like Welles' line where he conceded to how he'd treated his daughter. "Sometimes the strong just roll over the weak." This may be Faulkner but that's a common theme in Tennessee Williams.*
You're correct about Williams and his strong overtaking the weak. I never caught that. Will is actually a father who wants his daughter to loosen up. Maybe some of that is his own insecurity.*What else did you like about the movie?*
I really wasn't crazy about the film. I didn't like the ending. What I liked most is the relationship of Tommy and Vicki. They both become very protective of one another.
*Penelope is such a tiny little tornado that spins through life leaving all this wreckage behind her.
* Don't I know it, Penelope!
*You are right about that. I guess he plays the role too well!*
Yes!*Yes it's kind of a change of pace for him. I like Three Faces West.*
That's a big-time change of pace for Wayne. It's also a Wayne film I don't have.
*He's the man of a thousand faces but his own face is the most interesting to me.*
It's a great face. A "lived in" face.
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*It really is. I wonder what you'll make of Renoirs other films.*
Yes, I wonder.
*But he was there long enough to court Eve.*
But the affair could have happened before he returned, right?
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*With some movies I definitely want clarity, but not all. Especially psychological thrillers or dramas like this. It's fun to guess the possibilities.*
It really is. I love it when emotions are being shown through means other than just acting. That's directing.
*You and Jackie are good at picking them up. I've learned a lot.*
She's really good. She often catches stuff I never do. And I think you've been doing quite well with it.
*It makes me want more. I could watch the three of them all day.
* They really do command the screen.*It surprised me to realize Peggy had an affair with Eve's brother. It makes me wonder how Scott never met Peggy before.*
Probably because he was away in the Coast Guard.
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*I am when you go off on your sex tangents. I don't see it quite so baldly. But "unnerving" is one of the best possible words for this movie. It is absolutely that. It really gets under my skin and I love the very unresolved ending. It's such a remarkable little film, so full of imagery, sound and subterranean things you can't put into words. Scary! Like a modern day Val Lewton movie.*
What do you think the film is about?! It's very much a moody, atmospheric film. I'm with you, it's remarkable. And I like your comparison to Val Lewton.
*ha! I wish. I wish I'd had even one day like Eula's whole life. A merry ring of rosy days enjoying herself, shopping, flirting, being with her husband and looking pretty. How I envy that!!
* That's Quiet Gal's day!
*Lee is a darling in this movie, I just love her. Now I have to watch it again!*
Look! It's Manhattan!
*I can't believe you said you had to warm up to Clara. I thougth the reason you'd like the whole film is her character. She's the ultimate example of those pinned up blondes that have to let go, which you say you love.*
I soon found that out! I also didn't like her look. But, in fairness, it's tough to see her with Lee flirting all over the place.
*That line about Austen cracks me up!*
I loved it!
*In movies it's seems the ultimate symbol of a shy, repressed teenage girl if she reads Austen.
* It's definitely "shorthand."
*Yet Clara would love for the guys to howl for her from the bushes.
* Definitely! There's something to being desired.
*I think it surprised me, too, when I first watched. But it makes sense this way. He is getting the kind of son-in-law he wants, since he didn't get it in his own son.*
I figured he was going to be the disapproving father who wanted only the best man for his daughter. But he's like Ben Quick, so he takes a shine to him.
*Who can blame her! I liked the ending, it surprised me a lot when I first watched it. I thought it would end much differently.*
From one port to the next.
*I really need to watch it again, I don't remember how her character was introduced.*
They are dancers who make money on the side doing private parties, namely Rico Angelo (Lee J. Cobb). Vicki has been burned and she finds her roommate's love sickness to be foolish. She basically goes to Rico's party with the idea of taking the men. It's purely a job for her. Then she meets Tommy.
*Did you catch the bit of business that was ripped from The Big Heat?*
Uh-huh, I did. That was the big threat Rico held over Tommy.
*You usually hate the "suits"!*
I do! I didn't find him appleaing.
*I think it's the actor, I could not stand him. He seemed horribly uncomfortable, like he's not good at comedy or something. Dreadful.*
That's how I see a banker!
*It's kind of a novelty seeing Colman in a rural western setting. The character Colman plays reminds me a tiny bit of a movie John Wayne made later called Three Faces West. Both want to bring progress to a traditional community.*
Wayne played such a character? That's interesting.
*Ralph Morgan.*
I never heard of him. But he sure does look like his brother.
*I know what you mean. Besides the comedians and cowboy actors like Harry Carey, John Barrymore is the only silent actor I've really cottoned to. But he played a variety of roles, seldom just leading men or matinee idol type stuff. I do like Lon Chaney, too. Now that's a fascinating face without makeup. I like his looks.*
Chaney is the Hollywood actor I have liked the most. But he's basically a mug. He's not a pretty boy.
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*You've written some great things about the movie, I can see it really reached you.*
Are you feeling all right?
Thank you again. Two compliments in a row! I'm doomed.*It really is! I think maybe not being about telling every little thing, you know like movies today, and having to be careful, ingenious, and allow audiences to figure things out for themselves has a lot going for it. It can be fun when it's not all obvious what's what.*
Well, you know I definitely agree with you about that. But I think most movie watchers want clarity, including classic film watchers. I just happen to love the "fog."
*And symbolism is one of those things that challenges me the most. I have never, ever been good at picking up symbolism in books or movies.*
Sometimes I catch it while many times I do not. It usually takes a couple viewings for me to see things.
*I wonder. The ending is certainly open to almost any possibility. In a way it's interesting and maddening at the same time. Especially since the beginning is all about Scott.*
Precisely. It does throw you because Renoir starts us off saying this film is about Scott, but it ends up being about Tod and Peggy. I love that.
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*I'm glad you liked this one, I think.*
Are you worried?*I'm not Clara and you can't think I'm Eula! I would never marry anyone like Anthony Franciosa...I wanted to strangle him!*
Ha! I know better, Eula!
*But i love the movie and all the other characters. This is my favorite of Paul Newman's younger roles. He's perfect as Ben Quick and I like his scenes with Welles the best.*
That's saying a lot with you since you're not a big Newman girl. I liked his scenes with Joanne the most.
*Welles is hilarious. It's such a huge, ham sandwich of a performance but totally fun.*
I was very surprised by that. I thought he would be at Ben's throat, but it was the opposite. I'm sure Welles enjoyed the breeze.
*I'm glad you liked "Bijou".
*She's fun! You and the Navy. Tsk, tsk.
*I'm not sure I've seen this one but I have seen a movie with a similar premise. I think it's based on a story by Poe or is it Stevenson? A really interesting idea for a story.*
Stories? Books?! Look who you are asking!
*So you didn't like Vicki at first? I need to watch it again, but I liked this movie quite a bit more than I thought I would. It reminds me of Man of the West a little, as I mentioned.*
We're set up to not like her. She doesn't wish to get involved with any men. She's looking to use. Meanwhile, her roommate is head over heels for a guy. We know what ends up happening to her. But Vicki finds herself falling and then her warmth starts to come out. She liked how much of a gentleman Tommy (Robert Taylor) was.
*I was worried you'd be irritated with Natalie's ditzy character. I just love her Penelope and I wish she'd gone off with 'Columbo' and left that dreary husband!*
Poor James (Ian Bannen)! He just lost his way, that's all.
*It's a handsome production, pun intended, but I didn't like the "triangle" too much, mostly for the boring leading lady.*
I can't disagree with you about that. I think Vilma is pretty, but she didn't show much personality in this one. Henry King does place the focus on Colman and Coop. There just isn't much to this one.
*I think I've only seen him the main lead in one other movie, but he's been the "second banana" or second lead in many MGM flicks. I like him and his brother, who you'll have seen in lots of movies.*
Who is his brother?
*I'm not big on Gilbert in his movies with Garbo. Even when I was much, much more into Garbo and her films I was never fond of them as a couple. I have liked a couple of movies he did on his own, though.*
I'm not big on the style of male performers of the silent era, mostly. At least the "matinee" kind.
*And I'd love to see him in Cameo Kirby, directed by John Ford.*
Who?
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*i love what you said about how Peggy was picking up the pieces of her life when she was collecting firewood. that was great.*
Thank you. That was very kind of you to say.
*it really is a movie full of analogies and symbolism.*
It most definitely is. There's a lot being said with the unsaid. I love films like that. It's about mood and emotion. And Jackie is very right in saying the 40s featured some of best films ever in this regard.
*so do you think that Scott is finally "well" by the end? he seemed to be stepping out purposefully like he knew where he was going at the very end...like maybe to Eve?*
Oh, I'm sure he'll return to Eve. But if he's to heal his tortured soul, he'll either have to do that himself or find Eve's way as his sanctuary. It's sometimes a matter of rearranging yourself to make it work for you. Eve can definitely be an anchor for him, but he has to allow her to do so.
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*HA.. NOT at the top. But you may not guess which one is.. (even if you ARE better at pegging me than I am at you)*
You're *Gunga Din*.
*Of the ones I have seen on your list. I think Miss G has it right (with A Tree Grows in Brooklyn) for you. Aside from being a great film, it seems like a story youd' really connect with.*
So what do you think I'd connect with?
*Ha.. I am sure this will come as no suprise to you.. but I have never considered myself an Annie.. ha. But I wasn't a "Laurie' either. (I have always been Aint Eller even when I was young. ha)*
*Poor Ollie Cute.. cuddly.. and able to rip your head off in a single bite. Poor Ollie, indeed.
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He only wishes to be loved!