FrankGrimes

Good evening, Grahame's Guy! -- *I think Picture of Dorian Gray was one of my suggestions from way back.* Yes! You got it. This was the other film I mentioned that I'd watch because you recommended it to me a couple years ago. I've actually had the DVD for about two years. *Also I think I suggested In Name Only to you once and I KNOW I'm responsible for* *Carefree. * And you are right about both of those films, too. I chose to watch *Carefree* as my next Fred & Ginger because of your suggestion. *My Rankings:* *1. The Picture of Dorian Gray* *2. The Thing from Another Planet* *3. Summertime* *4. Ninotchka* *5. How to Marry a Millionaire* *6. In Name Only* *7. The Roaring Twenties* *8. The Little Giant* *9. Room Service* *10. Carefree* *11. Heaven Can Wait (1943)* *12. Born to Be Bad (1950)* *13. The High and the Mighty* *14, Beauty and the Beast (1946) (Not Seen)* *15. Buchanan Rides Again (Not Seen)* *16. Thieves' Highway (Not Seen)* *17. Dark Journey (Can't Remember if I've seen so as good as not seen)* *18. Murders in the Zoo (Not Seen)* *19. The Mark of Zorro (Not Seen)* *20. City Streets (Not Seen)* Wow! I would not have guessed your liking *The Thing from Another World* that much. I would have definitely failed on my placement of *Carefree*, too. That's rather low for you. Is it because it lacks the magic of the other films? The lack of dancing and shared numbers? I'm surprised you haven't seen *City Streets* and *Murders in the Zoo*. *Oh good grief! I never get these right. I'm ranking all the films for you including the seven I haven't seen. Just on a hunch. * *How I think you liked them:* *1. Thieves' Highway* *2. The Picture of Dorian Gray* *3. The Thing from Another Planet* *4. Beauty and the Beast (1946)* *5. Summertime* *6. In Name Only* *7. Buchanan Rides Again (1950)* *8. Ninotchka* *9. Born to Be Bad* *10. Heaven Can Wait (1943)* *11. Dark Journey* *12. City Streets* *13. The Little Giant* *14. The Roaring Twenties* *15. The Mark of Zorro* *16. How to Marry a Millionaire* *17. Murders in the Zoo* *18. The High and the Mighty* *19. Room Service* *20. Carefree* I like your courage! Your hunches were pretty good. You scored better than Miss G. I think Miss G is always afraid I'm going hate the ones she likes.

*I skipped her list because I didn't want to be swayed.* Are you guessing how I like those films? It has to be because I can't see you ranking *The Thing from Another World* at the top for yourself.

*If having a grasp of a broad range of classics is your aim, you sure are hitting the mark.* Yes, it really is. I have my particular interests, but I also wish to know beyond those interests. *I still can't believe you watched more than one Astaire/Rogers flick.* That's probably my bravest step, thus far. For me to own their box set is something I would have never guessed of myself. *i confess I thought you could go either way on several, mostly on the "not like" side. with Summertime I took a gamble on your liking Kate's performance a lot, even though I can't see it being your kind of movie at all.* So why would it not be my kind of film? *the only one I felt reasonably sure you would like was Thieves Highway. My lack of interest in it is reason enough!* I've noticed that with you. If you really like a film, you usually expect me to not like it. *I'll never understand your rankings! What does that mean?* It's how far you were off on your guesses. If you guessed a film to be #5 and I have it at #8, it's "3 spots" off. *If it's the Edward G. Robinson/Mary Astor movie, yes. I enjoyed it so much! I'm not a fan of gangster movies as a rule, so this little send-up quite charmed me and seemed like one of those movies most people overlook.* Yes, that's the film. I figured it was that one because I don't see you as that big of a fan of Abbott & Costello. *TTFAW is another that I seem to have watched countless times since childhood, only not intentionally. Yet every time it's on, I'm fascinated and totally drawn into it. That's pretty rare with a sci-fi.* I definitely know you are not into sci-fi, hence my surprise in your liking the film. *It definitely feels completely "Hawksian", so if Nyby directed every scene, he seemed to have copied Howard or taken every single suggestion he made. All the by-play between the characters and the "romance" are far more interesting than the science fiction, and yet that aspect is very well represented, especially the "mad" scientist who often makes a lot of sense. * Very good! Now I understand how you can like it. *Love all the character actors that I've seen in a thousand movies and TV shows.* I only knew of the guy in the suit! *About Ninotchka being an old favorite? It used to be practically my all time favorite (after GWTW, of course).* I didn't know that. *and I guess I must like Melvyn Douglas in his role because I have no problem with his casting (he's frequently an obstacle for many). Cary Grant was suggested but for some reason the role was given to Douglas. I think Douglas plays "lazy" convincingly. I just love his brief exchanges with his butler. * I think you hit on it perfectly. Doulgas does play "lazy" really well. My kind of guy! *Lubitsch's send-up of political philosophies, Marxism in particular here, but not alone, is hilarious. Anything "extremist" comes under his gentle but pointed humor.* It's amazing how he jams so much into his film without you ever noticing. It's hardly ever obtrusive. *I love Lauren Bacall's lines, she really makes me laugh. "Gesundheit." And Marilyn is such a little doll.* That's because Lauren is playing you! *He's like a little statue. Perfect, polished, not a hair or word out of place. No emotion at all.* That's a wonderful description. He really is a living painting. He has the same look at all times. *Your Rope comparison is spot on!! He's like the young man, the dominant one, I forget his name, who carried through Rupert's theories.* Ah, yes, Brandon (John Dall). I didn't think of the similarity between the two of them, but you are right. *Yes, they shied away from that. I think they were scared of the censors. Also, one of the odd things about Hatfield's Dorian is that he comes across utterly sexless to me.* He's very much sexless. *Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde* is about how we men have to put forth our gentleman appearance while hiding our sexual desires. *The Picture of Dorian Gray* is about one's vanity and soul. *That is so brilliant! I never would have thought to compare them and now I'm wondering if Hitch had this character in mind. Not from the movie necessarily, but the literary original. How far will a man go to see his "theories" proved? How oblivious are the intellectually "superior" to their influence?* Precisely. The idea of superiority falls right in line with vanity. The disdain of others, the thinking they are so tiny and insignificant in comparison. Everything is seen from your own point of view. Bad events are merely challenges for you. They are not about the other persons affected, it's about you. *Oh please.* Oh, no! Not another "F," Teach!

*I'll say! I can't figure out those rankings either! * It's how many places off Miss G was in her guesses. She guesses a film is #1 and I actually have it at #12, she's "11 spots" off.

That's hilarious! You're seeing spots!

*Why am i always invisible? that isn't a very good way to flatter a girl!* Because you are! Molo noticed! He saw the gloves suspiciously moving in the air... all by themselves! *like what? stealing strawberry shortcake from sweet and innocent girls? That doesn't count!* No, not that! *Don't blame Larry! He's innocent, too!* What?! When did this happen?! *Oh come now. All you have to do is admit that you liked a little sweet romance..and it wasn't cheesy!* No! Never! *oh goodie! i have plenty to say about it! I so want to know what you have to say about it also!* I saw a lot of Miss G! *That surprises me, actually.* *why is that?* Because *The Picture of Dorian Gray* isn't a romance! *She watches this one?!* *it's Gene Tierney! Of course she watches it!* Your evil grandmama likes Gene? Is she trying to confuse me? *i'm not admitting to having a wooden nose, okay!!* That's because you're guilty! *i don't know if you remember what my long black gloves look like. * I hid them!

Hola, Invisible Woman! -- *in order of preference. * I see a lot of romance ranking highly for you! Awful! *1. Summertime - Going to Venice, meeting a handsome guy who thinks she is oddly enchanting, and having an adventure...Us girls have our priorities. heehee!* We men have our priorities, too! *2. Carefree - You actually sat through this movie? i thought you didn't like musicals, Frankie!* I'm at least trying! Molo pushed me. It's all his fault. *4. How to Marry a Millionaire - First of all, Can i request your review of this movie prety please with pixie sticks on top? Secondly, It's too cute to resist!* Oh, I'm sure I'll talk about it. *5. The Picture of Dorian Gray - Angela Lansbury!! Yay!! She was so pretty in this one, but the movie is very interesting to say the least. It leaves you wondering about things you never would have thought about before watching it. This intrigued me.* That surprises me, actually. *6. Heaven Can Wait (1943) - just a good one that grandmama likes watching with me* She watches this one?! *7. Born to Be Bad (1950) - I thought you had seen this one before. It's an OKAY film-noir. :palright, i'm a terrible liar.* See! Fibbing! *9. City Streets - you also watched a Gary movie? whoa, i am officially shocked. heehee! he's a cutie in it, though!* Gary Cooper was in it?! I thought it starred two women! The one was really tall and wore a lot of make-up and a fur coat.

*What an amazingly eclectic batch of films!* I'm trying! This is why I like watching the favorites of others. It's going to help me out. *Here's how I think you may have liked them:* I'm not going to reveal how I liked them in case others wish to guess. You didn't hit any on the nose. Here's how you scored: 1 spot (2) 2 spots (2) 3 spots (2) 4 spots (2) 5 spots (2) 6 spots (2) 8 spots (2) 9 spots 11 spots 12 spots (2) 13 spots (2) *My rankings:* *2. Beauty and the Beast (1946) (* *Exquisite!)* *17. Born to Be Bad (1950)* *18. Buchanan Rides Again** *19. Carefree* *16. City Streets* *5. Dark Journey* *14. Heaven Can Wait (1943)* *15. The High and the Mighty* *6. How to Marry a Millionaire* *7. In Name Only* *9. The Little Giant* *10. The Mark of Zorro* *13. Murders in the Zoo* *4. Ninotchka* *3. The Picture of Dorian Gray* *12. The Roaring Twenties* *11. Room Service* *1. Summertime* *20. Thieves' Highway* *8. The Thing from Another Planet* Did I watch the right "Little Giant"? I've been trying to watch your top 50 list of all-time favorites that you posted a good three years ago and this title was on your list. I didn't realize you like *The Thing from Another World* that much. I'm surprised *Carefree* ranks so lowly. I'm guessing it's because there isn't much dancing and the romance is silly. I certainly wouldn't have guessed you liking *The Picture of Dorian Gray* so much. I mostly knew your feelings on the other films with the exception of *In Name Only*. *Most of these movies, with a couple of excceptions, are kind of in the middle for me. Two of them are childhood favorites: Ninotchka (which has to be one of the top three or four films that I have seen the most often),* Really? There's no way I would have guessed that. *and How to Marry a Millionaire (ditto).* Yeah, that one I get. *One that has risen the most is The Picture of Dorian Gray. When I first saw it and read the story years ago, i was rather repulsed, as I think we should be, by Dorian himself (the character). He was so brilliantly played by poor Hurd Hatfiled. There was such a corpse-like coldness in his performance and the only thing living in that deadly beautiful face of his was his burning eyes...I just couldn't get past that for the longest.* His blankness really is phenomenal. He's definitely playing the pretty boy with a selfish, cold heart. *I've since re-watched it a couple of times and become more fascinated by the psychology. it reminds me a lot of Fleming's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde in the exploration of selfishness vs self-control.* It definitely reminded me of that film because of the setting and the monstrosity. It lacks the sexuality of *Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde*, though. *I don't even pay attention to the little kitty anymore (something else that always disturbed me), it seems an excuse we don't need to explain Hurd's submission to his own basest cravings.* I liked that touch. *Then there's Georgie, instigating with dispassion the most ghastly tragedies. He's a puppeteer, too lazy to test his own theories so he prompts others, like a devil's own advocate, to carry out little "experiments" to prove his cynical views are the well founded.* Oh, he puts on a show. It's arguably my favorite of his. He reminds me of Rupert Cadell (Jimmy Stewart) in *Rope*. *What brought out the painful remorseful tragic aspect of it all was poor Angela's "little yellow bird". She was so sure she'd found what she had been waiting for. "A real gentleman." Of all the horrid things Dorian did, nothing was as hateful to me as his little "test". It showed such a lack of owning his own mind, the way he so easily succumbed to Lord Wotton's (Sanders) suggestion and this quality is a dangerous one, just as dangerous as Wotton's own misplaced confidence in the rightness of his ideas.* She was very sweet, very much the "little yellow bird." But don't we men have to take "tests"?! I should know! My report card is full of "F's"!

*How's that for shallow?* How is that shallow?! I think those are honest impressions. It actually sounds like *Ninotchka* is your favorite of the bunch.

I certainly don't mean to interrupt the discusson with *Strange Cargo*. I'm very fascinated by what Jackie just wrote and I wish to reply to her. But I just wanted to post the last films I have watched. I'd love to see how everyone else personally ranks these films, of the ones you have seen. And if you care to guess how I liked them, please take a shot. Here is what I've recently watched: Beauty and the Beast (1946) Born to Be Bad (1950) Buchanan Rides Again Carefree City Streets Dark Journey Heaven Can Wait (1943) The High and the Mighty How to Marry a Millionaire In Name Only The Little Giant The Mark of Zorro Murders in the Zoo Ninotchka The Picture of Dorian Gray The Roaring Twenties Room Service Summertime Thieves' Highway The Thing from Another Planet

Hi there, Quiet Gal -- *He was tough.. and he was determined to NOT be anything else. And yet.. he did have a side to him that could be hurt (emotionally) and it made him very "pitiable" even if he was not very "lovable" for a lot of the story.* That's an excellent point. You are right about that. We do pity Verne. What you miss early on is his advances on Julie (Joan Crawford). He's very forward with his intentions. He doesn't take "no" for an answer. He's that confident in himself. She pushes him away and then rats on him, so he's tossed back in prison. *I mean.. how pitiful WAS it to see him out there in the jungle in the rain.. hiding out just waiting for Joan Crawford to show up. Just sitting there soaking wet and absolutely on 'survival mode" looking like some poor hunted animal. Almost tragic. I felt a measure of sadness for him, just watching him.* He's quite the sucker! What we go through with you women. So many slaps. *But then he turns right around and is hideous to Crawford and mocks her w/ scripture in the scene right after that. In fact pretty much every time he quotes scripture.. he is mocking someone.. but mostly mocking the words themselves He had NO room for faith in anyone but himself.. and was bound and determined to not be "taken in" He was certainly a hard case.. with a hard heart. And yet, still easy to find sympathy for, as well. I have to confess that the more I think of him, the more I find him to be a very intriguing character.(due in no small part to the way he was portrayed by Gable, I am sure. This may be one of my most fave Clark Gable roles ever, if I think on it enough)* Oh, yes, lots of mockery. Julie is very taken by the language and he finds it all to be silly. *But really, I don't think anyone did a bad job in this film (from what I was able to see in the portions that I DID get to watch) I think one of the things that makes this film so worth watching is the way each character is able to be understood. Some only have a few lines (and some of them are focused on pretty much throughout the entire film) but each character is easy to "see" as they really ARE and you get a real good glimpse into what makes them all tick on the INSIDE rather than just seeing what they do (and hearing what they say) on the outside.* I definitely agree. The entire cast is terrific and all the characters are painted richly. Cambreau is the constant calm amongst the storm. One thing about Gable that strikes me is that he's a great crier. When he cries, it's very impactful.

My laziness caught up with me. Sorry about that, Molo. *I'm really glad you liked this film.* It features many elements that I like. I like the dangerous journey. I like the philosophical. I like the message of unselfishness. And I love the sparring of the sexes, of course. *We see this clearly with Telez. (Eduardo Ciannelli ) He wraps himself in his faith but he doesn't live it. He believes only in the evil of man. Cambreau believes in the good of man and he sees the good in those who can't see it themselves.* *Cambreau:* *Telez, the bread stood between them and your heart.* * That was really good, Grahame's Guy. Nicely done. And there are so many "Telez's" today. *I especially liked how Verne (Clark Gable) and Julie (Joan Crawford) came to do this with each other. They were genuinely concerned about the other's well-being that they chose to harm themselves in some way in order to help the other. That's pretty much my belief.* *I thought you would like that aspect of the story.* You were right on it! You have me pegged. *Who doesn't seek redemption at one time or another?* The selfish. Many seek redemption for selfish purposes. *I'm not sure if Quiet Gal has seen the film or not, but it's definitely her kind of picture.* *I think it is too. I'll harass her about it!* ** She needs some harassing! *I can't think of any other role where Gable is this dark. Every rough edge in Verne is out there in plain sight. This was his first film after playing Rhett Butler too!* Wow, I didn't know this was his next role. That's remarkable. Verne really isn't that lovable until the end. He's as tough as they come. *It's Miss G! * *Yep. You're definitely drinking the water.* ** Oh, there was never any doubt. *I can't say enough good things about Crawford in this film. Julie is tough, bitter and sarcastic but she's also bruised and weary. I got the feeling Julie was close to taking her last wrong turn. There was so much fire in her spirit and it makes the scenes where she is worn out, regretful and reflective very moving to me.* Oooooh, that's excellent. You really capture her well. And I do like women who are hiding their hurt. I loved that she was willing to marry M'sieu Pig to help him get away. *Lorre was so unique. Nobody could play these parts like him. He knew how to creep people out. * Boy, you said it. And I think he captured me quite well in this film. *It really is. This is certainly his most memorable performance that I've seen. He worked early on with Hitchcock and Michael Powell but this was the first time he really stood out for me, even though he appeared in a few favorite films of mine.* He had the tone down perfectly. It's a marvelous performance by Ian Hunter. *I'm definitely a "Verne"! Or is it "Hessler"? * *I just know you're drinking the water! If Miss G is on that boat, your chances of making it to the mainland aren't good!* ** Are you kidding?! She'd refuse to get on the boat!

You're first rate, Banana! I hope you have a marvelous day! Oh heck, let's say year. Happy Birthday!

*Her words and Violet's, too, leading up to the climax. All those stories about what they saw, what Sebastian saw. The movie is definitely a dialogue driven film, typical of Mankiewicz. We're only shown glimpses of things. This somehow always impacted me more, my own images in my head were scarier than anything they could put up there.* So you still carry the childhood fears of imagination. That's interesting. Was Sebastian faceless? I can't remember if he was or not. *ChiO likes Dreyer.* Oh yes, I do know that. He's always wanted me to watch *The Passion of Joan of Arc*. *You'd probably like The Collector.* You've mentioned that to me a few times. You must associate me with a psycho. *The Manchurian Candidate and* *The Sniper are scary to me, too. I'm blanking out on* *The Incident, it sounds familiar but vague.* *The Incident* is a Fox film. It's about two thugs who take over a subway car, holding people captive. It's similar to films like *The Petrified Forest* and *Dial 1119*. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061814/ *Really? I thought Psycho was the scariest.* It is. But it's considered a horror film whereas most every other Hitchcock film is not. Hitchcock's films elicit fear from me due to the tension he creates. *Rope* is a scary film to me. *Notorious* has a couple scary scenes. *Spellbound* has a few. *Dial M for Murder* has a big one.

Howdy, Quiet Gal -- *Pleasant dreams!! * Nooooooooooooooooooo! That's the nightmare scene! Hiya, SansFin -- *It is easy to forget he also directed Mr. and Mrs. Smith and* *The Trouble with Harry* Yes, those are the kids doing their own thing. I really like the former, while I'm lukewarm on the latter. Hey there, Soon-To-Be -- *The idea of Frenzy for me is more frightening than* *Psycho, though* *Psycho is more frightening in it's editing and shock value. Again,* *Frenzy bothers me because that's the way it really happens.* I didn't include *Frenzy* on my list because I thought it was too close to a horror film since it's about a serial killer, ala *The Boston Strangler*. But it's screwy how we all draw our lines with stuff. Those films are "thrillers" and so is *The Manchurian Candidate*, I suppose.

Now I'm gonna have nightmares of kids singing!

*Well yeah.. because if you just limit to your top FIVE new favorites.. you would have to leave out Donovan's Reef.. and Alice Adams.* *Scary....* Those don't scare me as much. The kids in *Donovan's Reef* frighten me, though.

*Oh wait.. it's ok.. I think I know what really happened. You are just making a list of your top five NEW favorite films of all time.. and you like them SO much.. it scares you.* I think that would scare everyone!

*Well, you've managed to insult quite a few people with that.* Those films horrify me! *In Cold Blood is the kind of story that scares me because it's what really happens all the time and the way it's filmed which grisly enough for me still leaves plenty to the imagination. That makes it even rougher.* That's an excellent choice. That one is definitely on the scary side. *Suddenly, Last Summer has that in common with* *Picnic at Hanging Rock in that something really awful happens but we're never shown much. Our imagination makes it worse, and the sense of place in each movie is really sinister. SLS uses words mostly to evoke the horrors and PaHR uses images and sounds.* Are you talking about the chase in *Suddenly, Last Summer* ? Are you responding to Liz's words? *Night of the Hunter is scary the way a child sees things that frighten them.* That's a fun kind of horror for me. I love taunting. *Day of Wrath has some pretty horrific imagery but the inner lives of the characters are just as scary. And Dreyer scares me, anyway. * I really need to find Dreyer. I've only seen *Vampyr*. I must say, your list is very thought-provoking. I was trying to figure out how a film can be scary without it being a horror film. After going over my favorites, it has revealed one big component to what I find horrifying: violent captivity. 1. *The Manchurian Candidate* 2. *The Shooting* 3. *The Tall T* 4. *M* 5. *The Incident* 6. *The Wages of Fear* 7. *Man of the West* 8. *The Sniper* 9. *T-Men* 10. *Detour* I'd say most every Hitchcock film has an element of fear with me.

And how did they scare you? For me, I'll go with: 1. *Pride and Prejudice* 2. *Gone with the Wind* 3. *Sergeant York* 4. *McLintock!* 5. *She Wore a Yellow Ribbon*

A very Happy Birthday to you, Rey! I hope you have a wonderful day. Keep the candles and lists coming.

Very nicely done, Rey! I'm glad to see you resuming your 40s lists. 1946 is definitely one of the best of all-time. What's interesting to me is that we don't share any similar titles for 1945 but five of your titles are in my top ten for 1946.

That's definitely an eclectic list! I'm very impressed. Thank you for posting the link.

What a magnificent post, Madhat! That was great! Your selection of screen caps was perfect. I like how the film doesn't push a religion on me. I felt it wasn't about finding Him, it was about doing right. It was about putting others before yourself. I especially liked how Verne (Clark Gable) and Julie (Joan Crawford) came to do this with each other. They were genuinely concerned about the other's well-being that they chose to harm themselves in some way in order to help the other. That's pretty much my belief. *Also the film's cast caught my attention. Namely the pairing of Gable and Crawford for the eighth and final time, but it also features Peter Lorre, Paul Lukas and Ian Hunter. all of them stuck on a remote, sweltering penal colony on an island in French Guiana.* I thought the cast was excellent. I loved all the different personalities. *The film gradually introduces us to the occupants of this vile place and what a wretched lot they are! To say that cynicism, anger and despair run rampant on the island would be an understatement. They are a forlorn and desperate bunch, and with the notable exception of Cambreau (Ian Hunter), they appear to lack any redeeming qualities, but then redemption is the key theme of the film.* I completely agree. Redemption truly is the key theme. I'm not sure if Quiet Gal has seen the film or not, but it's definitely her kind of picture. *As Verne, Gable has never been nastier. Even the wink of his leering gaze when he first spots Julie (Joan Crawford), seems more perverse.* Definitely. I've never seen Gable any darker. His rascals usually have an attractive twinkle in their eye, letting you know they are good. Verne is different. *I don't understand what prison chief Grideau (Frederick Worlock) finds salvageable but he seems to think there is something worth saving about him.* I took it as a sign of admiration for his talents. *We also have Julie who sings in the local cafe and deals in men on the side. Crawford is stunning in the role, spewing venom at every turn, she hates her life and there is much self loathing in her. She's made some wrong turns and there is a defensiveness to all her spite. As Gable says when he first meets her You hate hard baby, so you'll love hard.* It's Miss G! This was my favorite "Joan" character, thus far. She was highly entertaining. *Lowest on the food chain is M'sieu Pig (Peter Lorre) who is not a prisoner but a stool pigeon, who would probably sell out his own mother for a quarter. He lusts after Julie and he makes her skin crawl.* And this is me! Poor Petie. He's great. *So that is the set up and it's a pretty good one. The twist comes in the character of Cambreau. He is really the center of the film. No one is certain just who he is or, eventually, what he is.* I was onto him pretty early. Ian Hunter did such a phenomenal job of projecting such an all-knowing calmness. A wonderful performance. *Ian Hunter is wonderful in a tricky role. He isn't off putting or alienating in his portrayal, We are drawn to him just as the characters in the film are drawn to him.* *Cambreau is always calm. He doesn't show fear or fatigue. He seems to know things and he has quiet confidence in his moral convictions. If ever there was a group who needed a messianic figure to guide them it is here, among these fugitives, on this island.* *He remains strong, providing food for the hungry and comforting the sick. Each of them deals with him a little differently. Some want to remain on their guard, not wanting to deal with his message. Verne dismisses him, Moll seems perplexed. There are varying levels of fear in many of the characters but we don't see much of it in Verne, or in Hessler, who chides Cambreau throughout the film.* That was wonderfully said. *Julie's evolving relationship with Verne is another component of the film. She is contemptuous, her feelings and outlook shaped by years of hard luck and bad choices. She doesn't trust men and he's no exception, but she doesn't have a lot of options.* Snippy! *As for Verne, he seems unaffected by what has happened on the boat. Firmly lodged in the moment, he can't be bothered with spirituality. He has his own philosophy.* I'm definitely a "Verne"! Or is it "Hessler"?

I feel the three men are stunted. They are all caught in their own traps. They each see Roslyn as the key to their own freedom. Roslyn is the reason for them to live again or to start living. This can often be the case with woman to man. Man gets caught up in doing his own things and then along comes a woman. A woman forces a man to evaluate his life and its priorities. Gay is a rebellious drifter who never grew up. ****'s life came to end after his wife's death (if I remember correctly). Perce is like Roslyn in that he's a little boy who is looking to be loved, mainly by his mother. Each man is fragile in their own way, just like Roslyn.