CineMaven

Have you ever found flaws and faults with someone you loved, but in spite of that, still loved them anyway? Well, that?s how I feel about "Sgt. Rutledge.? I love courtroom dramas: ?THE TATTERED DRESS? ?WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION? ?THE PARADINE CASE? "TWELVE ANGRY MAN" (Just call me E.C.Juror #9) ?TRIAL? (with the great Juano Hernandez too)...?ANATOMY OF A MURDER? and many many others. I like the law piecing together the "who-done-it? of a crime and the personal stories of those involved. I like the use of trial as metaphor. I like the strict rules of engagement between the D.A. and Defense. There?s several ways of story telling too that I like. I don?t mind Rashomon style; zig-zag if you wanna, I?ll try to keep up. I also see the merit of non-diluted linear plot revelations. Good points are made for connecting the dots in a story so that it doesn?t defy logic. I try to take great care when I write, not to strain credulity by having plot holes or inconsistencies big enough for you to drive a Stagecoach through. Saturday night was not my first time seeing this movie, having seen it a few times before. But with all that, as a whole, I still enjoy "Sgt. Rutledge? and I?m happy that a giant like John Ford, whose film oeuvre speaks of all manner of things ?Of the West? sought fit to tell some of the 9th?s story and include their contribution to the making of the West. I?ve never been a fan of the squirrely or fluttery, so Billie Burke doing her thing was very dis-tracting. Yeah, that?s her stock-in-trade but aaargh!! I enjoyed the by-play between her and her husband Capt. Fosgate. I liked him very much. Yes, pass the ?water?...good and I liked his bluster. I liked the gentler...more subtle humor during the poker game in the back apart from the seriousness of what was happening out front. There seemed to be a wall between me and some characters or parts of the movie b?cuz of the acting. What?s up with the loud voices?! (Why am I thinking of SNL's Jon Lovitz when he "was Acting"??) The D.A. was particularly annoying to me. It made me feel like I was watching some acting style out of a silent movie; like I was watching a ?talking silent movie.? It prevented me from getting close at times. Jeffrey?s included in that as well. (What?s with the big voice, Mr. Gorgeous Cutie Pie)? And the Stephin Fetchit-y cavalry man, yeesh, I could do without. (Yeah, yeah...it takes all kinds). The young lad in the store, as he first approaches Lucy sounded like...I dunno, "Hen-ry! Henry Aldrich!!" I saw better acting in Disney's ?Spin & Marty.? The murderer finally breaking down on the stand was over-the-top. Yowsa! There goes subtlety...out the window. I was ready to string him up right then and thar. And I wasn't crazy about the ending. I know, I know men don't say "thank you" or "I'm sorry." It's understood and they go about their business. But as I sit here and compose my thoughts for this essay, I can?t quite pull this movie apart point by point. I?m reading the posts below and they are wonderfully expressive and I agree with much of what you guyz have written. But I must confess, I feel this movie more than see it. I guess some of "Sgt. Rutledge? for me, is just the fact of it putting us there; (?us? being people of color). So often we were invisible in the scheme of Hollywood?s version of history...serving as background... being supporting players in the leads? lives...(Theresa Harris). Seeing us up there on the silver screen actively participating was a great feeling; acknowledging that people of color were part of the West. Seeing Woody Strode there placed in heroic positions among the monuments of rocks and mesas, in glorious color, riding hard, fighting ?Indians?, kicking up dust, chiseled hero features, being in big sky country was a heartening feeling for this African-American/Puerto Rican/MovieMaven. Plot holes...Schmott holes...yup they were there, but it was about Rutledge wasn?t it. His commitment to duty...his personal integrity. I loved the way Woody carried himself. Not with Poitier nobility, or Belafonte prettiness. But as a man. Just a man. (Move over Wesley Snipes. The first Black action hero was probably Woody Strode. And by the by...before Sidney Poitier, there was another gorgeous actor who should have had a bigger and better career...James Edwards). I liked the reading of Rutledge?s emancipation papers. I liked that Rutledge knew that some- times papers don?t mean a danged thing. He knew what type of justice was waitin? for him. I liked how Ford first shows Rutledge in Constance Towers? flashback. It?s the 1880?s folks, but its also 1960 in real time. Rutledge pressed close behind her...covering her mouth with his... huge...hands. I can see Ford calling up all the stereotypical bugaboo and sexual fear entailed in that image of the Big Black Man and the White Woman. Commanding...being a little rough. He's a mountain of a man. ?Don?t scream.? Fear and lust all rolled into one. Ford uses all that, and then flips the script to reveal the truth of the matter, Rutledge is trying to save both their skins from marauding Indians. (?Whew!? says the Maven...mockingly). Later Rutledge has the chance to ride to freedom, but he is duty bound to his men. He couldn?t have lived with knowing they might?ve been slaughtered. I love his command of his men. They all respected and loved him (including Jeffrey Hunter). I loved when Hunter?s Cantrell threw down his hat talking about friendship! (I?ll bet Rutledge helped Cantrell when he first came to the territory a wet-behind-the-ears cadet). I loved the boy looking to the man when Cantrell says "if you tell me, I'll believe you." Could Rutledge be the precursor to Lou Gossett Jr.?s role in ?An Officer and A Gentleman??? Or Gen. Colin Powell, or a descendant of the men of the 54th Massachusetts? ?...Because the 9th cavalry was my home.? I believe Rutledge also knew his debt to the past (Crispus Attucks) and his responsibility to the future. The catch in his voice...the way he holds back his tears ...his whole testimony was wonderfully moving. There?s a whole history there in his speech. And I?m sure Woody Strode lived part of that history. I just found myself watching him. Oh yeah, the plot is the plot and its played out like it is...but I was watching Rutledge and what he was going through. Have you ever found flaws and fault with someone you loved, but in spite of that, still loved them anyway? Well, that?s how I feel about ?Sgt. Rutledge.? (And trust me, I can do that easier with a movie than a human being, I'm afraid to say). If you haven?t had your fill of Woody, just wait until August?s Summer of the Stars. There is a day of Woody Strode on August 5th. I'll be there. Watching him.

Yes...and a wonderful metropolis is, cook county, forever.

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Grimesy, MadHat...I prefer Constance Towers bald and beating a man with her shoe, but that's just me...your CinemAva. Will offer more cogent responses a bit later. All in all, I enjoyed "SGT. RUTLEDGE" with all its twistey windey flaws. "The Great Flamarion" awaits...

Renee...why are posts being deleted without nary a word to the poster? Has your system been hacked into or is the fox actually guarding the chicken coop? To be deleted without explanation via PM is even a more insidious practice than I dared dream was going on in this MESSage Bored. And the answer is??

OUCH!!!!!!!!!!! Ooooh, my achin' head! A human being cannot crawl inside of a 17" laptop's monitor. Let that be a lesson... Thank you for the screen cap, Miss Goddess. Now, is there a Doctor in the House?! (Nurses, stay away or I'll shoot!!) Will someone get some paper towels for my husband! Bounty...STAT!!!!!!!!! :x :x :x

Filmlover...I've always been curious about who murdered director William Desmond Taylor.

Awmigawd! You got a howl outta me with that one. I thought she looked like the girl who had played Annie Oakley on tv, when I was little. Ponytails...that's the cinema's shortcut connota- tion for virginal innocence. Look forward to your thoughts on Sergeant Rutledge." Flawed film? Yeah...okay. But even John Ford's flaws would be a lesser director's masterpiece. You can try to connect the dots and get chicken pox. Me? I prefer to look at this glass as half-full; the half that was full of Woody Strode. How did his wound mysteriously heal? Who cares!!! When Woody took his shirt off, I was done for...a goner!! :x --Mrs. Woody Strode-- :x Uhmmmm, I mean, CineMaven.

Hi WouldBeStar. I just reached out to you over at the Susan Peters' thread and wanted to do so again here. I've never heard your name bandied about on the board or in PMs for ill-mannered cyber etiquette so you've nothing to worry about on that score. I've read your posts with friendly interest, myself. You've made some good points below, WSB. Although everyone may not agree with those points, we can only hope that the Web Administrators have taken back to their Supervisors, the wishes of the majority of the TCM Message Board community. Oh, they already know what the majority of the TCM Message Board community wants: * No multi user-name identities. * Ban the member, NOT the cyber-name. ...And if a person has been banned for egregious behavior...they should remain banned and not be allowed to return. If they ban the member instead of just the cyber-name, incidents of repeat offen-ders would drop dramatically. I'm hoping TCM doesn't think that without multi user names, the board would be devoid of posters. On the contrary...many would come back. Take good care, WouldBeStar.

A Favell of good taste. You got that right. Seven and a half more hours to go.

While we comb the archives for Robert Redford, (and wait for Woody tonite), lets while away our fantasy with this: http://www.youtube.com/oldspice. http://www.youtube.com/oldspice#p/u/13/owGykVbfgUE Is it 10:00pm yet?

While we comb the archives for Robert Redford, (and wait for Woody tonite), lets while away our fantasy with this: http://www.youtube.com/oldspice. Is it 10:00pm yet?

Well!!! Well...do I feel like a prize dunce!!! What a Jenny-Come-Lately I am to the party. Brother. I have read, and am still reading the rumbled Ramble you all had LAST year about Anthony Mann's "THE FURIES." Ha! I ain't sayin' nuthin' new. After what I read (and am still reading), I shan't go on and on, here. You and Grimesy, and Rohanaka have covered ev'ry morsel of points on each character, subtext, plot nuance of this bombastic Shakespearean western. All I can add is: "Duhhhhhhh...I liked the movie." I keep making these claims without having ALL the evidence...and I'm going to do it again: though I have more to read...the ramble you guys had on "THE FURIES" is one of the absolute best essays from the couch * I have ever read in my three years writing on this Message Board. Screen caps, quotes...genuine feeling. To think that missing out on these pearls of wisdom and thoughts and camaraderie has been put in serious jeopardy is the reason I cut and paste a lot of what I read. I think before I ever post again...I must comb through the archives to see what a really good job of rambling about a film looks like. I doff my (dunce) cap to you guys. * PM

THE MEN OF THE FURIES: JUAN HERRERA Bucking the racial mores of the time is Vance?s close friendship with Juan Herrera (played by the dashing Gilbert Roland. Maybe he should have played Zorro). Herrera?s mother hates her... Vance?s father hates him. So we have a little Capulet/Montague - Hatfield /McCoy thing going on; parting is such sweet sorrow as they break bread when they part. Roland is rugged and hand-some; he?s got all the other men in the film beat by a mile (though the actor who plays Stanwyck?s brother is mighty purty). And when Roland/Herrera speaks Spanish...whew!!! (So that?s what he really sounds like). He?s kind of bada$$ too. They show them kiss. Now maybe bets are hedged slightly when Roland says: ?the kiss of a good friend,? but they kiss nonetheless. And it doesn?t feel like they?ve just been ?pals? up in them thar? hills. He?s loved her since they were kids. She?s close to him and won?t hear of his family being run off the Furies. She deals with him on some type of equal footing not high hatting him or being ?Liberal?ly understanding. He was noble enough to stop fighting for her sake (something Lance Poole wouldn?t do in ?DEVIL?S DOORWAY?). Herrera knew Vance loved her father even though she hated him. He wouldn?t let his mother kill T.C.. And he wouldn?t let Vance beg for his life. This part really got me. He wouldn?t let her belittle herself for him...b?cuz he loved her. (He knew T.C. wouldn't change his mind anyway. He was immovable). I thought Juan Herrera was very noble in his love for her. Come to find out he always let her win the race up to their mountain spot. There?s some power in knowing you can win at any time, but it would mean so much to the other person for them to win. (Maybe she even knew that all along). Herrera is the only one who understands her. I think he could step up to the plate and handle her if he had to. Herrera understands she would rather break than bend. He was the only man who didn?t try to ?break? her, tame her. And it bought him the noose. Yeah, what a man. How many of you guys would hang for the woman you loved. See...I rest my case. RIP Wendell Corey surprised me. I was never a big fan of his. He seemed so dough-y and mashed potatoes to me (though his ice-blue eyes are killer!) I liked him in ?DESERT FURY? though. He opened my eyes to a slit when I saw him opposite Joan Crawford in ?Harriet Craig.? He could handle La Crawford. But when I?ve seen ?The Furies? on tv, I didn?t think he was man enough for Stanwyck. But somehow he seemed different up there on the big screen. Deep voice, kind of craggy-faced; there was something about him when he danced with her...hmmm. what's this now.... Vance tested Corey (playing the character Rip) to see if he would stand up to her father. And he does: ?You stop telling lies about me and I?ll stop telling the truth about you.? He owns a gambling saloon. He was his own man. When Vance lovingly tried to steam roll him... he put her in her place. I thought for sure, predictable movie-wisdom logic, that she would throw that cake in his face...but he didn?t let her. And that made me kind of like him (as actor) a little more. Rip is a man of his word. He doesn?t say anything he doesn?t mean (including ?I love you?). He will not be coerced. You can seduce him, but he?ll take it for what it is and still make up his own mind. But I also believe he?s trying to break her. In fact Vance?s reaction to her dealings with Rip is: ?I don?t think I like being in love. It puts a bit in my mouth.? You see, Rip cannot accept Vance the way she is. He?s got to break her: ?You don?t want a husband. You just want a man around the Furies.? No compromise. No compromise for either one of them, I guess. It?s-my-way-or-the-highway, kind of deal. Rip delivers a double whammy to her ego. The second time, was a death blow. And the second time, her father is instrumental in engineering it, which makes it burn all the more. T.C. makes an offer Rip doesn?t refuse, and that decision embarasses and shames Vance. She stands as speechless and motionless as Marnie did on her honeymoon. When I saw her reaction it hit me in the gut a bit. ?He hit me. No one ever did before. He made me cry. No one else ever did before.? Yeah yeah, Rip was just trying to teach Vance that she can?t ramrod him...that he?s his own man; that she can't have her way all the time. Maybe he?s teaching her lessons for her own good. But it's also a "Man" thing. I can?t help think he helped to harden her heart. But then again we all know, her heart belonged to Daddy...

...Ann Sheridan, yeah...I am a big fan; I"ll take her any way...in black and white or in color.

> "...Even the dead ones, who watch over the place, sizing up the competition." That line is brilliant. Why didn't I think of that?!! Ha! This might indeed, be a woman's western. Even before the great "Johnny Guitar."

Oh darn it...I forgot to give this a shout-out in time for folks to watch this neat little drama starring Ann Sheridan that comes on this morning at 8:00AM. "Nora Prentiss." See photos here: http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?threadID=152279&start=150&tstart=0 Just scroll down. Yup, keep going.

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?I like being TC?s daughter.? Well THAT'S an understatement. I suspect THIS was the movie Selznick was trying to make. By the time 1950?s ?THE FURIES? came around, Barbara Stanwyck had been making motion pictures for twenty-one years. I saw her first movie (?THE LOCKED DOOR?) when it aired on TCM. Whew! The girl I saw didn?t stand a chance of having a career. Clearly, I didn?t see what Capra saw way back then. Lucky for us there was Capra. As she hit her stride and went full steam ahead in her career, only Bette Davis matched or surpassed Stanwyck. I guess the bat- tle is only in my Maven?s head as to who was the stronger of the two: Bette or Barbara. It?s a game I like to amuse myself with. IMHO, Bette is the Queen of the Movies, but I will lie down on a NYC subway tracks for Stanwyck up to and including ?THE BIG VALLEY? and her small part in ?THE THORNBIRDS.? When I play this mental grudge match in my head, here is where I think Stanwyck (known as Missy) had a slight edge over the indomnitable Bette Davis: Stanywck could do more genres: comedy, drama, noir, a tiny bit of musicals (after all, she was a chorus girl) and...she could ride a horse. (Nope, I?m not counting Bette as Judith Traherne). Stanwyck (great screen name for Ruby Stevens don?cha think?) also worked with more of Hollywood?s most dazzling leading men than Davis did. With Bette, she didn?t share the screen...she was the screen. She was the total reason for being there. I don?t think her leading men mattered so much. She was a tsunami and hurricane all wrapped up in one fidgety little New England package. You only watch her. (At least I do, any- way). But Stanwyck was more egalitarian; she could share the screen with her leading men. I think they kind of feminized her in a way b?cuz she was one tough cookie and not a pretty girl in the way Hollywood liked pretty girls. She worked with 100 mega-watt SuperStars, or men whose light shone as Character Actor. Some of her leading men were emerging, and others still, just had great chemistry with her. Get a load of these names and think of the actresses who?d had given their eye-teeth to work with Gable, Bogey, Flynn, Fonda, Holden, Cagney and Kirk. She worked with James Mason, Van (Heflin not Johnson), the Duke, Freddie Mac, Eddie G. and (one of my favo- rites with her) George Brent. In ?THE FURIES? Stanwyck works with one of the giants, the great Walter Huston. I absolutely love the sound of his voice. I?d be hard-pressed to name another actor who delivers lines more natu- rally than he. Is he talking or reciting writers? words? Stanwyck and Huston burn up the screen together as Father & Daughter in this 'Electra'cal Anthony Mann western. (I wonder what Huston would have done with the Lee J. Cobb role in ?MAN OF THE WEST.? Lee J. should have had a mouthful of splinters the way he chewed up the scenery, but I did enjoyed him in it). ?THE FURIES? is a trifecta of talent with Barbara Stanwyck, Walter Huston and manning the director?s helm, one Anthony Mann. Huston and Stanwyck were a joy to watch and probably had a grand time working with each other. And the more I see of Mann these two weeks at NYC?s Film Forum, the more I see he?s one tough director who puts characters through their paces about their life choices. I?m telling you outright...straight up, I?m going to give a biased opinion here so be warned. I don?t know what Anthony Mann movie is his masterpiece but ?THE FURIES? is MY favorite western of his...and I say this not even seeing all his westerns. Physically, the movie is so dark (literally) sometimes I couldn?t make out what the heck I was seeing, there was not enough light. Maybe here is where he could have used John Alton?s painting the landscape with his magic wand of silver nitrate; producing clean and crisp blacks,greys and whites. The movie doesn?t look clean and crisp...but the plot is. ?The Furies? starts with Franz Waxman?s theme music. It?s as big and bombastic as anything in ?DUEL IN THE SUN.? It makes me think Mann said to Hollywood, ?Anything you can do, I can make better.? I?m coming to believe Anthony Mann could master any genre. Now you wonder how I can make a statement like that when I haven?t seen all of Mann?s westerns. I dunno; taking a page out of Lesley Gore?s song book: it?s my post and I can say what I wanna. You?ll make up your own mind. Yes, ?DEVIL?S DOORWAY? tackles social injustices and ?MAN OF THE WEST? takes a more personal view of one man?s internal struggle as he comes face-to-face with his past. But I?m liking ?THE FURIES? as a.....wait for it: ?best western? < guffaw > b?cuz I feel it walks on the noir side a bit...its betrayals are big and go down to the bone and marrow of a character...fate follows Man and evens the score. I also enjoy ?THE FURIES? because it shows some of the west from a woman?s perspective and shows the power women had over powerful men. At its core ?THE FURIES? seems to be about oppositional relationships. I?m not sure if I?ll be able to explain this properly but I hope I can: * Mexican vs. American * Squatters vs. Land Barons * Family vs. Love/Friendship * The Battle Within Electra I loved Mann putting Stanwyck through her paces in different situations. She handles them all with equal aplomb. She?s in and out of these scenes wonderfully. When she has to be tough she?s tough, when she?s Daddy Little Girl, she?s softer, but still wants what she wants. When she?s a Bad Boy?s girl, she?s that. If she has to be in female competition, she dusts off her competitor like water off a duck?s back; but she knows how to fold 'em, if she has to. Stanwyck as Vance Jeffords does not waiver; she does not back down. And that might be her undoing. ?THE FURIES? is a great Electra story. Two other ?Electra?cal tales that immediately come to mind are ?BONJOUR TRISTESSE? and ?THE HEIRESS.? ?THE FURIES? being set in the West lends itself to operatic grandeur as big and as wide as the West. With all three films, our female leads are Daddy?s Girl, wanting to take their mother?s place in Daddy?s life to a large extent. But a good Dad sets boundaries. These Dads don't. In ?THE FURIES? you could see that Walter Huston as T.C. Jeffords, loved and liked and respec- ted his daughter. He could break bread with her, ride with her, have a drink with her, talk business with her and have a good laugh. He basks in her admiration of him. But it did kind of seem to be at his pleasure, no? What he gives he could take away, not that she would let him. By the same token, no one else in the world could hurt him as she could. ? How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child!? But was she really thankless? She wanted her share...she wanted was due her. T.C. creates the woman she is just as Mildred Pierce created young Veda. And when she turns hard and cold...that?s his doing as well. THE WOMEN OF ?THE FURIES?: I enjoyed watching Stanwyck interact with the women of ?THE FURIES." (*) She dispatches the dance hall girl, Dallas. almost without thinking her significant enough to even look at her: Dallas: ?Honey, I?m new in town.? Vance: ?Honey, you wouldn?t be new in town anywhere.? (*) She knew enough not to even THINK about confronting Juan Herrera?s mother. She tiptoes around that ol? lady who spits when she walks past her. Whew! For a moment, I thought it was Katina Paxinou but it was Blanche Yurka. (HEY!!! IT?S CODY?S MA. CAN CODY JARRETT COME OUT TO PLAY??!). She was wonderfully menacing as she mutteringly beckons her prey to come into her gun?s sights. Dammmmmmmm I think the moms in ?Notorious? and ?The Manchurian Candidate? could find a home...home on the range. (*) Seeing Stanwyck with Beulah Bondi brought her together again with her co-star from ?Remem- ber the Night.? When Vance goes to see the old banker about extending her father?s loan, she knows she could get the lecherous old coot to give in. But I loved how she held Beulah?s gaze as she sends the old banker away. She sizes things up quickly. And I think she respected the power the wife had, more than she respected ANY man?s power. Why? Because she knew the wife had power over the husband. And Vance is allllllll about power. (And her Daddy?s love). MRS. ANAHEIM to Vance: ?You could have wrapped my husband around your little finger...He?s a faithless husband, but he is my husband.? I liked that the two women understood each other?s place. I thought it was rather kind when Mrs. Anaheim tells T.C. she?s seen his daughter. He doesn?t want to acknowledge her, but she blows past that pretense. (*) I am loving Stanwyck?s scenes with Dame Judith Anderson. They crackle and bristle as Vance tries to hold her contempt and fear at bay for this woman who can usurp her position in her father?s house and in his eyes. ?I just don?t know how to fight her. It?s like fighting the wind.? Seeing Anderson in this is, again another movie connection for me. It?s like a continuation of ?The Strange Love of Martha Ivers? had the Aunt met Martha as a grown up. Dame Judith is one of the masters like Agnes Moorhead (who could have done this part) or Gladys Cooper. Strong, impe-rious. And like Medusa, with a look that can kill. No screaming banshee, she. Quiet power. I loved the subtle superciliousness of Anderson. She knew what she wanted and eventually told Vance she wanted the security. ?Money makes life smoother. I mean to have it.? She was honest, even when T.C. asked her for money later in the film. I liked her. She wasn?t a mean ol? step-mother, but she was going to be a step-mother nonetheless, who planned to ship her step-daughter off to Europe and remove the competition. She was impervious to being insulted ?cuz she knew what she wanted: TC?s money and security. I loved Stanwyck with Anderson. Two power house actresses. Stanwyck looked kind of small next to Anderson?s power position (Daddy?s love interest). That ?scissor scene? made the Film Forum audience gasp...and hell, they knew what was coming. That?s the power of getting caught up in the moment and unfolding of a film, even if you have seen it already. What happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object? Well, that'd bring us to... THE MEN OF "THE FURIES"

I'll back it up a little later, Ro... ;-)

?The Furies are perhaps the most terrifying spectres of the ancient world. They are three sisters whose purpose in the world is purely vengeance...Once they have been summoned they can not be put back down...Of course the risk you take is this: if you call on them falsely, you might find them torturing you. The more honest you are in the act of summoning them, the more kindly they treat you. It is important to remember they will not stop just because the summoner changes their mind. They only stop when THEY are satisfied that justice has been done.? - furies.net. ...And then there is Anthony Mann's 1950 film of the same name.

?If I were to pick a movie star to represent your entire being - it would be her. From now on I am going to simply call you Ava. - < JackFavell > Oh no...no...no. I?m not Ava. No. I?m not worthy, Jackaaaay. She?s so glamorous and has men at her feet. Have you SEEN Ava?? Matadors killed for her. Hughes tried to buy her. She goes barefoot. I?m sooooo none of those things. (I wear a size 7.5 shoe). I?m just a regular, down-to-earth kinda gal who loves classic films. But I?ll glad keep the moniker I was dubbed: CinemAva. That suits me just fine. (I did have big hair in the early 70?s when I had an Afro). It was out to there. ?In honor of Bye-Bye Birdie and Cinemaven's first film ever seen without her parents, poufy-do'ed Ann Margaret...? - < SueSue Applegate > Thank you so much for those shots of Ann-Margret. She did a great job in ?Bye Bye Birdie.? Girlish and then the burgeoning sexuality. Loved that battle of the sexes dance number. Bobby Rydell was none to shabby in that scene when he jazzed it up. Ha! We saw ?Bandolero? as a family. Sue you?ve listed many many actresses that I?m very fond of. You have CineMarvelous taste!!! :-)

Thank you for the reminder. W-0-0-D-Y!!!!!! :x

http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?messageID=8419855 ATTENTION!!! ATTENTION!! This is for all my red-blooded, American, TCM Enthusiasts. ?BYE BYE BIRDIE? comes on in five minutes. If you don?t want to watch the whole thing, do yourself a favor and watch just the first ten minutes and bail. I for one will look forward to (digesting the burgers I had today) getting lost in gold lame, chinoes, pompadours, blondes turned brunette, fey Dads, song and dance men, men with fezzes, squeeeeky loafers, a really big shoeeee and one gorgeous future sex kitten. This is the first movie I saw withOUT my parents. They let me go with a bunch of other kids to the movies. It was a double feature with ?KING KONG vs GODZILLA.? It changed me forever. Fantasy awaits. Let the others kvetch. I say, ?Thank you TCM.? Ann-Margret is kind of like Fourth of July fireworks all by herself.

"Would you like some milk?" - < RED RIVER > Will milk strengthen the Code of Conduct to preclude banned members from coming back? If so, I'll take ten gallons, Red. Warmed up.