CineMaven

In keeping with your original post, the endings I've enjoyed from the London Times' top twenty list are: * Casablanca * The Usual Suspects * Some Like it Hot * The Sixth Sense and * The Shawshank Redemption. One of my favorite endings of a film that is not included in the top twenty of the London Times' list is from * "Vertigo." For him to go through all he's gone through only to have her go over the edge...again, is the funniest, saddest, cruelest comment on love's illusion that I've ever seen in the movies.

While SCSU soothes his achin' ankle, we can run amok with his thread (38 pgs. long now). I'm going to post "then" and "now" photos. (I'm just hopin' and prayin' they all come through for you folks or else the joke's on me & I'm sorry I wasted your time). Maybe I'll just put up the now photos. Aging...it ain't for the young.

SCSU: Oh, and I sprained my ankle while walking outside the courthouse. X-rays were negative. But I am very grumpy, so watch out. Why do we have to pay for that. We didn't pave the sidewalk. Hope you're better. A sprain is worse than a break, they say.

Ugaarte, when I wrote: :Her closest rival is Stanwyck (who I adore) but who didn't consistently get the shiny, star-making roles," I didn't mean rival in the eyes of show business. I meant Stanwyck is a rival in my eyes. I've always had an internal battle as to who was tougher and fiercer, Stanwyck or Davis. Yes, Joan Crawford was great. But didn't seem as accessible as Davis. Just my very humble opinion.

Dred: "Keyes dies july 4th and I never saw anything anywhere about her death.... very odd." This is not odd Dred. We are losing our Hollywood history right before our very eyes...and today's media and youth market and stars know few of the great ones. I always liked Evelyn Keyes in "The Face Behind the Mask." Sad news, even if she was 91.

I wish I had seen this. I'm a big big fan of Teresa Wright's. Loved in her "Shadow of a Doubt" "The Little Foxes" "Mrs. Miniver" the Lou Gherig film...etc. Cute as a button. P.S. Have to add that if you missed it on the Fourth of July Hitchcock marathon, "Shadow of a Doubt" will be aired at midnight tonite (or Sunday morning) July 13th. You owe to catch it folks, if you haven't. Message was edited by: CineMaven

She's been a spinster, a queen, a dance "hostess", a Southern belle, a school marm, a brain tumor victim, an unstable sibling, a mad countess, a nanny and Actress. She's a squall, a tornado, a full-blown hurricane. Even the blazing heat of the seventh ring of hell could not melt her glacial heart if you cross her. Who else in the history of cinema could beat a murder rap, make amends with her forgiving husband and then confess: "With all my heart, I still love the man I killed." Her closest rival is Stanwyck (who I adore) but who didn't consistently get the shiny, star-making roles. She is amazing becuz she has played more good girls than bad, but people remember the bad. (She let her husband die of a heart attack on the stairs). She's amazing for being a box office queen and running the Hollywood Canteen. She is amazing because sher bravely fought the brothers Warner for better scripts, not more money. she is amazing because she was one of the few female presidents of the Screen Actors Guild. She was Julie and Margo Channing. Her roles were showy and she was fierce. No Peter Pan collars for her, or playing the Lady Astor all the time. And if thirty, forty, fifty, sixty, seventy-plus years later people, who don't even know or care for classic films as we do, know ONE actress, they know her. She is amazing because she is simply a sheer force of Nature. She is Bette Davis. Message was edited by CineMaven: (Also amazing were Ingrid Bergman, Kate Hepburn and the one and only GARBO!)

Hi Raining Violets, Below are remarks from Molo re: Gloria Grahame. Go to the General Discussion forum and look at the postings for the thread entitled "They're Amazing Because......". Look at the pictures he posted and then tell me again about her resemblance to Lou Diamond Phillips. ;-) "Sexy. Sultry. Playful. Temptress. Vulnerable. Dangerous. Inviting. This is Gloria Grahame. Amazing? I think so. Why? She could take ten minutes of screen time and wrap an entire film around her little finger. She spent most of her career in support, in the background, but she draws your attention whenever she's on screen. She had a way of using her body. A sexual dance that lures you in. No Bogart, or Mitchum, or Ford, or Ryan could escape her charms. Not that they really wanted to, no matter the risk. She had an almost childlike voice and sly grin that hid hard lessons learned and dreams left wanting. She had wit and with the toss of her head could offer a knowing glance that spoke more than mere words. She exists in a dark world. Trumpets wail on her arrival. Interesting things are about to happen. A femme fatale for the ages. The amazing Gloria Grahame." Tobitz: THAT was funny! But since post 9-11-01, people get touchy about their identity.

I love jury duty myself. Didja see any look-a-likes among anyone?

Great pix you posted of McQueen and Wood. I've never seen "Love With a Proper Stranger" all the way through until tonite. Natalie (who I love) was a bit shrill and always on the edge of hysteria. And I don't know that I bought either of them as Italian. But I enjoyed the film, and the abortion scene...wow!

My apologies Professor *&%@! At least I didn't bold it.

I'm in love. ;-) Thank you.

Okay...you've written it in stone. You promised.

Awwww dammmit. :-( Message was edited by: CineMaven :-(

"CM - did you ever notice a resemblence between Gloria Grahame and Lou Diamond Phillips?" Violets...I see absolutely no resemblance between Gloria and Lou Diamond; none at all. Maybe if you post a picture side-by-side...no. Don't. "I always meant to ask if you saw Ann Carter all-grown-up on the tribute to Val Lewton, she was lovely." You know, I never did see her. I believe I did see the tribute (wait, I saw the documentary). I'm really sorry I missed seeing her. I remember thinking she was an astonishing looking child. Do you have a recent picture of her? Message was edited by: CineMaven No no no no no resemblance between Gloria & Lou.

Would it be "Jason and the Argonauts"? He gathered Hercules and Ulysses and the rest of his crew. It was a caperflick, looking for the golden fleece... Let me down easy cmvgor.

Would it be "Jason and the Argonauts"? He gathered Hercules and Ulysses and the rest of his crew. It was a caperflick, looking for the golden fleece... Let me down easy cmvgor. ;-)

Would it be "Jason and the Argonauts"? He gathered Hercules and Ulysses and the rest of his crew. It was a caperflick, looking for the golden fleece... Let me down easy cmvgor.

Would it be "Jason and the Argonauts"? He gathered Hercules and Ulysses and the rest of his crew. It was a caperflick, looking for the golden fleece... Let me down easy cmvgor.

Would it be "Jason and the Argonauts"? He gathered Hercules and Ulysses and the rest of his crew. It was a caperflick, looking for the golden fleece.

Hi Lafitte, let me break up the "this or that" thread for a moment and ask you why you pick Carol Lynley over Sandra Dee. Thanx! ;-)

Hello there Frank -- "There are many reasons to watch and enjoy films and each of us has our wants, our needs, our reasons. Some people take more from a happy ending, mainly because they want to feel good after viewing a film. They want to know all is good in the world. I tend to like tragedies because they always make me appreciate what is good in the world all the more." Excellent summation, as usual. I guess I'm in the "Happy Endings" category of things. It's hard to take that lump in my heart with the ending in "Casablanca" or watching the supreme sacrifice Camille makes to send Armand away when she'd be happy to settle for the crumbs of happiness she'd have in the short time she has left to live. I mean folks don't have to walk off into the sunset like Barbara Rush did in "______________" (you know, the sci-fi film where folks took rocket ships to Mars...) but I do like a hopeful feeling. Wouldn't you have liked to have seen glorious double G walking off into the fog of night or onto a bus to another town in "The Big Heat" rather than what did happen to her?

Wouldn't it be better to have Sally Rand's fan???

She looks kind of like Darla...no?

Ahhhh, Million Dollar Movie. Somehow celebrity hurts actors. They don't try anymore; they just waltz through roles. Burton--great actor. I loved Joan Collins in the Jack Hawkins Egyptian movie (the name escapes me at the moment and I don't want to cheat and imdb it. When the pyramid closes in on her and she's entombed... wow!