CineMaven

F.Grimes: "Hey, CineBaby -- I may go see the new Indiana Jones flick this week." Didja catch the Indiana Jones film??? BTW Jack, yes Karen Allen IS in the newest Indy film.

Frank...I don't mean to torture you, but I want to talk to my girls MissGoddess and Bronxgirl about the LanaFest. If those films wind up having their own threads, I'll go there and leave this thread alone. P.S. Please forgive me folks if I attribute quotes to the wrong people. I'm trying something different for me here: JACK: "I was just thinking this morning that Liz Taylor is the ONLY one who can carry that short 50's look, and only in "A Place in the Sun'." I'm going through my memory banks of 50's babes, and I think you are very right about Elizabeth and her short hair do. Her face was so spectacular that if she wore a Mohawk, she'd probably still be stunning. Also...Elizabeth had so much going for her, looking at her hair is just one part of her that warranted staring. BRONXGIRL: "You wanna see multi-tasking? I'm going to watch NOT AS A STRANGER now while cleaning my toilet, doing my yoga stretches, and eating a peanut butter and apricot jam sandwich on sourdough bread." You're probably making some lucky guy very happy. BTW...after your having watched "Not As A Stranger" I hope you stop by the Gloria Grahame thread (The Complete Package) and give us your thoughts of Grahame in this film. ...I mean in-between tasks. MISS GODDESS: "I didn't like the style on any of them, except maybe Kim Novak, she looked ok but still much better when it was longer." Funny, I can't remember Kim Novak with her hair in any style other than that short French roll look. She was lovely looking. BRONXGIRL: "Yeah, I hated those 50's short hairstyles. Doris looked pretty butch in YOUNG AT HEART; I think her 'do was shorter than Frank's. Joan's hair was also pretty bad in QUEEN BEE if I recall." I'm a recent convert to the 1950's after many years of avoiding films other than the schlocky sci-fi/horror fare that I loved. But I always had a little bit of a tough time with the 1950's specifically BECAUSE of the short Gina Lollabrigida hair-style. I much prefer the 1940's. I guess what also got to me about the hairstyle is seeing many of my favorites from the 40's with their lustrous long flowing hair (Jeanne Crain, Alice Faye - when she did re-emerge, Rita, AVA, Betty Grable, Gene Tierney etc.) shorn in favor of the poodle cut. MISS GODDESS: "I like Autumn Leaves but I can't stand Joan's butchy haircut!!!! It maddens me to no end. And it looks even harsher somehow against the super-feminine clothes she wore. She should have shot her hairdresser." I wholeheartedly agree with you re: Crawford's 50's cut. I've never really liked "Autumn Leaves" but I think that butch D-A hair cut she sported only served her well in one great movie: the wild and wooly 'JOHNNY GUITAR.' Have you ever seen her and Mercedes McCambridge go at it in this movie? Wow! MISS GODDESS: "Portrait in Black is...I've loved that one since I was a kid. I grew up watching these Lana soapers on TV...and the long suffering Virginia Grey (long suffering for Clark Gable)..." I've loved "Portrait in Black" "By Love Possessed" and "Love Has Many Places." Even those titles are great (and kind of speak to chick flicks, I hate to say). When you mention "the long-suffering Virginia Grey" in connection with Gable, I wonder if Ginny and Lana compared notes on 'the King.' And in "Portrait..." I always waited for the very end of the movie, when Lana's image turns into a negative, where everything that's light is dark and everything that is dark is light. I used to wait for that part. (BTW, John Saxon was a cutie pie!) Yep...Lana in the 50's soapies...wonderful! Wonderful. What made me laugh in "Love Has Many Faces" was when Stephanie and Lana were undressing and changing clothes. They're both in their slips like gunslingers packing heat. I got the impression that the subtext was Lana saying to the younger cub: "BRING IT ON!!!" Sorry to be so lengthy guys. Just really wanted to speak to each of your comments. Message was edited by: CineMaven- Gotta say though I wasn't crazy about Day's short hair, it did grow on me in "Julie" and the movie where she played Calamity Jane. Yep.

Marco: "...all 3 in 1 performance: kathleen turner in 'Body Heat' 1981" EXCELLENT choice. She did a fabulous job. But I'd like to add SHARON STONE as a triple threat in 'BASIC INSTINCT." I do think that was the role of the century!

Okay...okay...I accept it. I know I'm going to be called a dirty lily livered traitor to Classic Film. But I might be going to see the re-re-make of "THE WOMEN." Now, it's not becuz it would be better than the incomparable 1939 film starring Norma Shearer and Joan Crawford. (Nothing could top that.) But there was a shot of Eva Mendes as Crystal that sent me reeling. Listen, I'm still a classic film fan and I promise (PROMISE) that I won't like the blasephemous new movie. But I just gotta see all those actresses together. Well...maybe just for Eva Mendes.

You've done it again...citing an article beautifully written of Hitcock's masterpiece. And the messages below the article were wonderfully written. I especially liked what Sarah Nichols wrote: "Am finding it difficult to express just exactly how I feel about the wonderful Kim.Novak. I want to say that the scene in Vertigo, after Stewart brings her back to the hotel from their first date, is as once achingly sad and beautiful, and that the shot of her by the window, bathed in that ethereal green, breaks my heart. Resignation and pain pass across her face like nothing I've seen in any other film. I think of Thoreau's phrase: 'the mass of men live lives of quiet desperation'. We see it here, writ in silence, the dream of an unconditional love draining away." Wonderfully expressed!!

Memories... Thanx for that tidbit. I do hear the theme song. I see a long black limousine.

Nawwww...that'd be the Divine Sarah. (That'd be Sarah Vaughn). ...Or Sarah Bernhardt.

Filmlover: "I mean look at the third week with Mary Astor, Lizabeth Scott, Zsa Zsa Gabor and Chill Wills, all in one episode." Wasn't that WABC (Channel 7)? I remember that show and "Honey West" on tv. But you've whetted my appetite with that guest list. I see the two "Desert Fury" stars were reunited. I can still hear "Burke's Law's theme song.

Molo14: "It can be a rewarding job. It is depressing to see the students get younger each year though." Hellooooooooo...I had that same problem as I was attending Hunter College. I used to play cards in the cafeteria insted of going to class, so I lost my matriculation and had to go to school at night. It took me eleven years to finish, and geez kids got younger, clothing styles changed, presidents were newly elected. As for multi-tasking. I do a pretty good job at work. It's when I get home that's the problem. Then multi-tasking means sipping on a cold one while puffing on a cig and watching an old movie. (hmm...and I wonder why I'm still single) Just kidding!! (sorta)." Ya might have to smoke that cig outside, but I think you still could do nice getting a wife. 'Course it'd be easier to get someone like Martha Ivers or Phyllis Dietrichson. (You might have to sleep with one eye open with those girls, though. They don't play around). Well everyone Gloria is on the schedule late Wednesday/early Thursday May 29th 12:30am in "Not As A Stranger." Some other guys named Mitchum, Sinatra, de Havilland and (uh oh!) Marvin are listed in the credits too!" Aaaaaah Gloria. I can't wait to see this flick. I really want to see the scene with the horses serving as metaphor for the "ardor" of Mitchum & Grahame. (Well I guess if she didn't get him "Macao" here is her chance). There's no hot coffee being thrown in this flick but it'll be fun to watch Mitch, Blue Eyes or Lee Marvin as doctors; unbelievable...but fun to watch. Again...I say wait for "SCREAMING MIMI." Now that one is a hoot. And then there's Anita Ekberg. Oh mama. Whew! You'll need a coupla cigarettes for her. I'll be reading that article ChiO cited.

Frank: "Yes, the cat is out of the bag. But, actually, an angry Gloria is all the more fun." :-) You are soooo right about that Frank. Gloria looks much more alluring when she doesn't smile.

JACK:"Adrienne Barbeau reminded me of Karen Allen in Starman , one of my favorite "modern" movies....and she gets an alien baby..." FRANK: "You know, Starman is one of the very few "older" John Carpenter films I haven't seen. I'm guessing I would be more open to it today than I was a few years ago. I'm a Carpenter fan and I also like Karen Allen." Hi guys. I just saw "INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL." It's a mouthful to say but I had a good time watching it. Twice. It was very nice to see Karen Allen again.

No ma'am. It's a pirate movie where the beautiful Jean Peters plays Anne. 4,000 posts...whoa! That's me. ;-)

"...we can see the subtle emotional arm-twisting that accompanies the deepest relationships; how our feelings towards other people are very often based on the image of them we have created in our heads rather than what they are really like; and how people frequently make compromises or mould themselves to win the acceptance of someone they care about." -Jai Arjun Singh Thanxxx for citing this article MissGoddess. Reading this just crystallized something in my mind. The plot about Judy/Madeleine - fear of heights - new fangled cantilevered brassiers - inquests and phony suicides is all...all of it...all of it the MacGuffin. The whole reason of the movie is the quote I lifted. THAT is the movie. I can only imagine the delicious torturous torment Hitchcock suffered (though happily married) by gazing weeks at a time at the likes of Kim, Grace, Ingrid, Doris, Eva Marie, Madeleine, Dietrich, Tippi, Suzanne, Fontaine, Teresa etc. (among others) and knowing he could never have them.

Why Frank...you have been a busy boy!!! Thank you for the listing. I'll have the posted near my television. Hope your make it a point to see "SCREAMING MIMI" Watch Anita Ekberg dance. Look at the "tea party" Gypsy Rose Lee has. Watch Anita walk the streets. Uh...with a big dog. A great dame wtih a great dane. Yeah, it's a B-movie...but since when is that a bad thing? Thanx again Frank. Message was edited by: CineMaven- by the by...I see a couple of Double G movies in that line-up. Can't wait!

"...After all, tomorrow is another day."

TikiSoo: "I purposely hold off watching some classic movies because I feel like I've already seen everything." I want to understand. Whaddya mean by that?

I saw it. A cute story. Patrick Dempsey is gorgeous! Scotland looks like heaven!

"Ursula Andres, a boy? Hmmmmmmm...very interesting!!!!!!" I'm not kidding. I just saw Virna Lisi come out of a cake in "HOW TO MURDER YOUR WIFE" and she doesn't hold a candle to La Liz coming out of the water in her wet white bathing suit being quite a sight to behold in "SUDDENLY, LAST SUMMER." But that's IMHO.

As much as I love Eve Arden, just thowing in quips is not enough to win an Academy Award. She needed a fuller role or fully realized character. She should've been given that opportunity and if just being in and out of a scene is enough...then I'd root for the beautiful GALE SONDERGAARD in 'THE LETTER." And Ann Blyth was superb!!! She wuz truly robbed. The Academy probably thought it would be rewarding evil. Veda: spare the rod, ruin the Oscar.

I want to see "Anne of the Indies" before I die or else I ain't dyin'!

CM: "Easy...easy on Kim's eyebrows. ^ ^ She didn't exactly look like Groucho...from the neck down." SCSU: "Neither did Ms. Hayes ... especially when she was 50 feet tall and walking around in her hospital sarong." CM: So true so true. A whole lotta woman, wasn't she? Lafitte: "Oh, I thought one was the plot and the other art. I guess I've lived in the city too long, haha." No...you're right. Good analogy.

FG: "Is there any other place for a woman other than the kitchen or bedroom? I'm struggling to think of any. Why don't you slip into something comfortable and make me a sandwich while you're at it. Multi-tasking." Ow...you really are cruising for a bruisin' by BG and MG. Good luck!

Hi Frank: "Ma Iselin is your lady, Angela Lansbury, in The Manchurian Candidate. Angela puts on a serious show in that film. The best film mom ever?" CM: Duh! Why didn't I know that that was her name. I don't know if she was the best (I was always partial to Timmy & Lassie's mom: June Lockhart). But I will say Lansbury was one of the scariest moms ever. She's probably a psychiatrist's dream. CM: I love lethal ladies. FG: "Really? You? I thought you went for the pushovers." CM: Oh yeah...you have no idea. I'm lovin': Jean Peters: "Blueprint for Murder" Jane Greer: "Out of the Past" Catherine Deneuve: "The Hunger" Gloria Holden: "Dracula's Daughter" Kathleen Turner: "Body Heat" Teresa Russell: "Black Widow" Rosalind Russell: "The Velvet Touch" Ann Blythe: "Mildred Pierce" Raquel Welch: "Hannie Caulder" Jeanne Moreau: "The Bride Wore BLACK" Myrna Loy: "Thirteen Women" Kathy Bates: "Misery" Jean Simmons: "Angel Face" GENE TIERNEY: "LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN" SHARON STONE: "BASIC INSTINCT" Just to name a few for you Frank. CM: "(See "Suddenly Last Summer." Elizabeth in the bathing suit is quite a sight to behold)." FG: "That's a fine selling point, indeed." CM: You have no idea. She kind of makes Ursula Andress coming out of the water in "Dr. No" looks like a boy.

And as great danes go, Hamlet was pretty impressive too, although the mother thing...I dunno.

I must say I enjoyed the antics of Shigur...and the tense suspense of the film. The ending: "I'll be bach!" and that's all I'll say.