CineMaven

Well well well Molo. You have blown me away with your description and analysis of Grahame in "Odds Against Tomorrow." It made for a great great read. More please. "I wanted to reach out to this Gloria, to this lonely little person standing in the doorway with that gleam in her eye. Was it a neglected woman's lust in that gleam? Was it simply nothing more than hope??" Molo...you're gonna have a helluva fight with Frank for Gloria. She's his girl. I don't know if he's willing to share. Hmmm...kind of a Jules and Jim thing you two can arrange. But I don't think Frank'll give her up so easily. Don't reach out for Gloria just yet.

"Go on. Put 'em around me!!"

Today is the day to skip TCM (for me) doing all the rock 'n roll stuff. Hey...if Frieda Inescort wants to use the shoe ploy, it's okay by me. (Just a shame she gave up one of women's little secrets. Shoe fly, don't bother me!)

To chime in here Frankie: "I think Shigur would flip a coin on all of 'em!"

"WHAT A WAY TO GO!" "The Rains Came" or "The Rains of Ranchipur."

Finally a good question. I'm going to go with Timothy Carey and Eduardo Cianelli. (I'll throw in a mug: Elisha Cook, Jr.). The rest of you had named some very good actors. Oh yeah...we girls LOVE the bad boys!! Charles McGraw could smack me around anytime! Oops...the train's about to go into the tunnel.

"Affair in TRINIDAD."

Hi there Diana:"Somehow it doesn't seem right to lump Bette Davis in with that crew, at least for that particular film. Don't forget -- Bette received a Best Actress Oscar nomination for Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?, something that can't be said for the others." Of course, you are sooooo right. And I agree Bette shouldn't have been lumped in that category. I was just trying to make a point and I was clutching at straws. (My apologies Bette!) Hey Milland...I don't think anyone's saying they dislike Ray Milland. Just remarking on the stinkers he made late in his life to pay the bills. Some of his films are guilty pleasures for some board members here.

You're so right Fred. They don't make 'em like they used to becuz we don't have the people that used to make 'em.

Oh ROB!!!

As usual Mr. G., love your words. (And the screen caps are nice too. If I ever learned to do THAT...look out!)

Let's not forget the beautiful SUZY PARKER in the 1950's.

Listen to Fred. And imdb.com

Hello there MissG. I know I'm no MoiraFinnie, but IMHO, I enjoyed "RYAN'S DAUGHTER" when it came out back in 1970. Saw it at the Ziegfeld (a big-screen movie palace). I remember being blown away by the cinematography and the big-ness of the film. I thought Mitchum was kind of wimpy. But almost forty years later, knowing more of Mitchum's oeuvre of films than I did as an 18 year old, I see he did very well toning down his masculine image. (Have the movie soundtrack LP too). Glad you enjoyed the film this third time around.

"The Great Lie" with Bette Davis, till her last film "Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte" again with Davis, she excelled in mother roles in the forties, her best being Lizabeth Scott's mom in Desert Fury..." Just loved you mentioning Lizabeth Scott on the thread. Astor & Scott did a great job in this great color noir flick. Though you're a rebel not wanting to do last names. Now, me as a rule follower: Johnson, Van - Freckled faced, red haired attractive-looking 1940's boy-next-door. Light comedies & musicals and wonderful diversion while the men were away serving in the war. Enjoyed him in "Easy to Wed" "Command Decision" "The Good Ol' Summertime" and "A Guy Named Joe" among other films.

"High School Tarts 5." "Are they showing that again ???" Yo man, they can't show it enuf. I loved "Classic Film Buffs Gone Wild!" Everybody drop your pants. And your remotes!

Hmmm...comparing Ben-Hur to ol' Ski Nose??!! Crack is certainly rotting people's minds. (P.S. I like 'em both).

Joan - "Trog" Bette - "Baby Jane..." Tallulah - "Die Die My Darling" Milland - "...Two Heads" Where do old actors (and Oscar winners) go to die in today's times? Frogs, Snakes, Ants, Triffids. Well...it was a genre and I guess our old faves needed the money. I remember seeing the lovely Frieda Inescort in "Alligator People." A shame. Fun to watch and rag on...but a damned shame.

Hey Molo: "I understand what you're saying. I just saw O'Brien again in Hullabaloo and she basically has just two songs. I can see where that well could run dry. It's a shame that she kind of broke out of that with a more animated performance in Merton of the Movies only to virtually disappear afterwards." I agree with you. Seems like a lot of character actors in the 40's needed a schtick. I thought O'Brien quite lovely. "Kind of like if Violet Bick had left Bedford Falls, gone to Hollywood and maybe gotten a bit silly. I agree with Frank. That was well said Molo, using Gloria's character in the right way. Howdy doody Frank: "Gloria's not in the film that much, but she makes a helluva an impression. It's one of my very favorite of hers." I watched Double G Saturday night in "Odds Against Tomorrow." You're right, she had a very small part in it. I liked Gloria in it. So quirky. What was up with her pronounced way of speaking? Was she mentally 'slow'? Was she deaf? She had an odd inflection in her speech. It made her very interesting to listen to. She was definitely sex-starved and if Ryan could have sleepless nights hearing her baby cry, Grahame probably had sleepless nights hearing Ryan & Shelley getting 'busy.' You KNOW when she saw the shirtless, drinking 6'4" RYAN answer the door and looked up at him on the word "****" she was just looking to score some of what Shelley was gettin', ey?? I loved the robe opening and her outfit underneath; a precursor to Marion Crane's outfit in "Psycho." When she says "just this once" I had the feeling that her husband left her home alone many many nights, the louse! One small word about "Odds..." It really felt ahead of its time for me in terms of race relations becuz Belafonte played a man...just a man like all other men. I like how he was portrayed in this heist film. I liked the interracial mixing of folks (PTA meeting) and him kissing the gorgeous Kim Hamilton (of "LEECH WOMAN" fame! Why didn't she get more parts?? Oh yeah...) And at the end of it all...Harry & Ryan both go up in an incendiary "white heat" explosion...their burnt-to-a crisp bodies indistinguishable from each other. Ashes-to-ashes...all the same!

That was extremely clever. It shows to go ya, that a true cinephile had to make something like this. He perfectly captured the essence of the master, Saul Bass.

Fred, is there anything you haven't done...you don't know, you haven't been to? Or are you really INDIANA JONES masquerading as FCD?

MissG., you oughta write the 'Holmes on Homes' show. The hunky contractor is also an **** perfectionist. Your caulking would look spec-tac-u-lar in his hands.

Lafitte, lz, MissG., thanks for those answers. It helps me understand and verbalize. Hedy....one end of the spectrum-otherworldly; Rondo Hatton...the other end. Otherworldly. Both memorable. The Bland...not so much! I guess Keir Dullea, gone tomorrow.

I'm checking out "Gangway for Tomorrow" for Margo. Boy oh boy, was she a pip. "hiya cinie! im so ashamed of myself for forgetting about bogie and the trenchcoat. and me and april were just chatting about him. im losing it today. heehee! oopsy daisies!" Twenty lashes with a wet trenchcoat belt....softly. All is forgiven. But don't let it happen again schweetheart!

In "One, Two, Three" at the end of his career he was as frenetic and rat-a-tat-tat as ever. But I am partial to "EACH DAWN I DIE." First off I think it's one of the great all-time titles (like "Kiss The Blood Off My Hands" or "Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye" or "Yesterday Can Wait"). Secondly he was a tough guy and a sensitive guy as a reporter railroaded in prison. When he had to get sent to solitary I thought he was going to bust out and cry. His pairing with George Raft was great and I loved his last moment on film when he's finally released from prison. He steps out into the fresh air & sunshine with (the lovely) Jane Bryan on his arm. He takes in a deep breath of air and shakes his head. He tugs at Bryan's arm and off they walk. I wait the entire movie JUST for that silent gesture from Cagney. Cagney is just a force of nature in everything he did.