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JACK FAVELL writes: I watched about half of Pandora before falling asleep - then discovered that my dvd had stopped recording at 2 hours, missing the last 4 minutes of the movie. I know I set it for longer. Grrrr!
Uh-oh. Oh noooooooooooooooooooo.
PROVENCE-GIRL writes: I may have been unduly harsh with PANDORA AND THE FLYING DUTCHMAN. Just saw it again, though not entirely (only parts are on YouTube) and, even though I'm still not completely comfortable with this particular mix to fantasy and reality...
My life is getting in the way, but I've only just started watching the film. Ava is Beautiful. In this, she (at least at first) uses her beauty as a weapon.
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"I love the Outer Limits and have seen practically every episode.?
Have you seen the one with Vera Miles and Barbara Rush and Cedric Hardwicke and ?Ilya Kuryakin???
"Is that the one with David as an evolutionary speeded up guinea pig, with the super-large forehead to make room for his superior brain? I think that eppy was called "The Sixth Finger". But I think you might be confusing the other people you mentioned with some Twilight Zone and Alfred Hitchcock shows."
If you tell me you don't like Barbara Rush...you shall break my heart.
www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi2316174105/
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I'm sorry to hear this. I've always liked her:
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/11/06/jill-clayburgh-oscar-nominated-actress-dies/
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Hey Mongo...how 'bout some shots of AVA in honor of her being "Star Of The Month"???
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I just saw the commercial for TCM's Star of the Month for November.
OMG! :x :x :x and by the way :x :x :x ...WOW! Narration and images.
I love TCM and how they put it together.
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Arkadin, thank you for giving me those dates.
By the by...it was Miss Goddess who wrote this:
"...Anyone else have it to watch? I want to revisit it after all these years in view of Arkadin's earlier commetns about its influence on Leone and the 'spiritual' aspects of the story. I just remember this western made a big impression on me in my early movie watching."
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Miss G., I'm shocked. I thought you were a model child.
I still think I was! But my mother refuses to believe it.
Oh wow. LOL!!!! LOL!!!!
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"Now I need to get to The Bravados...you just watched that recently didn't you Chris?
Anyone else have it to watch? I want to revisit it after all these years in view of Arkadin's earlier commetns about its influence on Leone and the "spiritual" aspects of the story.I just remember this western made a big impression on me in my early movie watching."
I saw "THE BRAVADOS" on Arkadin's suggestion and enjoyed it very much. Recorded it on VHS tape. Then I rewound the tape and went to watch it again. Of course, the tape broke inside the case and just kept spinning around and around and around.
Ooooh, I HATE VHS tapes now. But I enjoyed the film. Gregory Peck < ( :x ) >.
Miss G., I'm shocked. I thought you were a model child.
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I listened to the interview and found Doris Day to be absolutely delightful. I miss her so much in movies. I wish she'd let us throw flowers at her feet.
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Who needs a suit. I feel protected by our new and improved Message Board Code of Conduct.
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Jeepers creepers Ol'. Don't you know better than to face your monitor when you log onto this Message Board. You can spit from laughter of the cleverness of some or gag from, well...you
know.
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I'll go with you Helen. This is what happens when you have bloggers instead of real journalists or cinephiles. I've read better writing by some on this message board.
Meh.
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MISS GODDESS writes:
"hey everyone, one of my favorite lesser westerns (not exactly a "b" western, but definitely not a biggie) is on TCM this coming Tuesday at 8 a.m. EST. Vengeance Valley stars Burt Lancaster and Robert Walker in a sort of western "Cain and Abel" tale. It's nothing specta- cular, but I've always liked it (I have the DVD) because I like burt when he's "low key" and I really like ann francis in this. lots of familiar if not well known western regulars pop up in the supporting cast. joann dru co-stars with her husband, john ireland.
walker's character is kind of like strangers on a train only a little less psychotic.
i hope everyone tunes in and enjoys it."
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VENGEANCE IS SPOILED...AND SO IS THE VALLEY
BURT LANCASTER plays Owen Daybright, the Rugged brother and ROBERT WALKER plays Lee Strobie, the Weasly Wastrel brother in Richard Thorpe?s oater "VENGEANCE VALLEY.? Ultimately, this is a tale about what happens when you spare the rod and spoil the child.
The movie is narrated by the soft and gentle twang of Carleton Carpenter. I?m not sure why this device was used but it doesn?t hurt anything. He was such a gentle presence riding shotgun for the ruggedly handsome Owen (Lancaster). Owen?s stalwart, honest, quick to fight for the justice
of things. Yeah, you can tell he loves his brother?s wife. But you also know he won?t do anything about it.
I was disturbed to see Robert Walker in this. A western? WHAT?! He?s a dude. I see him in dou- ble breasted jackets and fedora, not on a horse wearing a ten-gallon hat. Private Hargrove in the West? Get outta here! That put me off my feed. In fact, I believed Carleton Carpenter way more and Carpenter?s usually yabba dabba yabba dabba goofy.
But I?ve been wrong before.
And am wrong this time. I found Walker good in the part of Lee Strobie, the rich young man who?s never taken responsibility for, or faced up to not one of many wrong things he has done. Walker is perfect for the sneakily snaky son; the quiet whispery timbre of his voice...the sidelong glances. Perfect. There?s one scene that encapsulates the marked difference between the two brothers. When Lee?s thrown from a bronc he was busting, he strikes the horse with a whip. Owen grabs the whip from him telling him that?s not the right way. Lee gets back on the horse and breaks him into an easy gait. See, he?s learned his lesson. But no, he smacks the horse with the back of his hand. That one gesture of his was so unfair and showed how weak of character he was. It didn?t sink into that thick skull how doing something the right way would give him a sense of accomplishment.
The owner and father figure of the ranch Arch Strobie (Ray Collins) has spared the rod. He's given his son everything, forgiven his debts and dalliances; has a real affection for his daughter-in-law and for his foster son Owen. (Ha! Check out the name: Daybright). Yes, you've seen this dynamic before: (see "Written on the Wind"). So here (in the West) again we have the single parent who loves the child he picked more than the child he made.
And what?s the beef? Lee has fathered a child with pretty (Ida Lupino protegee) SALLY FORREST as Lily. She was interesting because of her approach to being an unwed mother. There was no moralizing or shame attached to this. Pretty progressive thinking. It was refreshing to see and rather startling for 1951 and whatever nineteenth century year that portrayed.. Oh, one caveat. The doctor refused to deliver the baby.
The perfect storm of events comes when Lily?s ornery brothers get wind of their ?illegitimate? newest family member. Somebody?s got some 'splaining and marrying to do. Her brothers are ornerily played by Hugh O?Brian and John Ireland (?Red River? ?All the King?s Men?). Now what they?re trying to do is honorable ( finding the man responsible). It doesn?t seem to dawn on them that Sis is just plain fine the way tings are now. She?s prepared to raise her child as a single parent. The bro-thers? motive seems to have morphed into a vendetta against the priviledged brothers. Nice rough fight scene between Lancaster and Ireland in a shed. Even Carpenter gets to take a swing.
JAONNE DRU plays Walker?s character?s knowing wife Jen. She?s got the gravitas of a grown woman who knows what?s up; pretty independent too as is Lily who doesn't want her brothers around. No love lost there. Jen realizes she?s made a marital mistake marrying Lee... she is definitely open to the unspoken confessions of Owen...she plays mid-wife to poor Lily...and also locks her door against Lee?s conjugal advances. (ASIDE: I found Dru to be Tierney-esque in looks and bearing. I wonder why after "Red River" & "All The King's Men" she didn't have a bigger career).
So we've got all these forces about to converge in the metaphoric valley of vengeance. Straight-shooter Owen, sly Lee, my favorite bad guy Ted DeCorsia thrown into the mix (nice fight scene here too), two ornery scoundrels and a real woman waiting back at the ranch for the victor.
I learned a lot about ranching. I loved the Sheriff and the Cook. Understated, good horse sense. I liked how the Sheriff put those Baxson boys on the train; quiet confidence. If you know Westerns you'll know how it all plays out. But it was nice watching it unfold. Sadly...not an Anne Francis in sight. < Sigh! > :-(
But there was Burt in jeans...and shirtless. :x
Thanx for the suggestion, Miss G.
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You're so excited? Well I tell ya, I'm ECSTATIC about the "MOGULS AND MOVIE STARS" documentary TCM is airing. Checking out the 1903 classic: "The Great Train Robbery" and this film is better than "Avatar."
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I'm not really sure Jayo, but the "MOGULS AND MOVIE STARS" documentary you mentioned in your original post is probably going to be a great hit with TCM fans. "The Great Train Robbery" is on now. 1903 film. That's amazing.
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Yup, I enjoyed the firefighter film.
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Hey Kid, tonite's first part of the "Moguls and Movie Stars" was great did you check it out. I'm lovin' the story of the firefighters. 1903. Unbelievable.
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Did you ever see the exhibit? Did you watch tonite's documentary?
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Just watched Part I of the documentary. Wonderful.
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I watched Part I: "Peepshow Pioneers" of the seven-part documentary "Moguls and Movie Stars."
Wonderful, fascinating to see motion picture history laid out. Just one thing, my understanding is Florence Lawrence was the first movie star, not Mary Pickford. I'm looking forward to the rest of the documentary. It was great to see the grand children of the great moguls.
http://www.suite101.com/content/florence-lawrence-first-movie-star-a111999
I'm also enjoying the films of these inventors shown after the documentary. Some are over one hundred years old. Unbelievable!
TCM...you rock and rule!
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Krull might be more attractive, but remember Henry's way with bad seeds. I think our group may need someone with that particular skill. They're pesky chameleons as you know, changing their spots but still being pains in the keister.
As for the Chef, mon Dieu. I've been so busy worried about how I'd be buttled, I didn't think of how I'd be fed.
(I like bushy or rather full eyebrows too...Sean Connery, Tyrone Power).
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I saw "Young Frankenstein" at the Sutton Theatre on East 57th Street, when it first came out. I clearly remember that scene. How the audience howled! That and "Blazing Saddles" and Woody Allen's movies of the 70's... < sigh! > It was a great time to laugh at the movies.
Now to get scared. I'm going to see "PSYCHO" at the Film Forum now. Fiftieth anniversary.
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"Claire Bloom has always been off-putting for me, and I don't just mean in THE HAUNTING. Not sure why. An uneasiness. Something about that poised, "lady-like" exterior which I'm sure lurks writhing demons within, lol. I don't feel this way about Deborah Kerr, for instance. Maybe it IS Bloom's widow's peak.?
But she divorced Rod Steiger. If you feel this way...ooooh, that is a different kettle of fish. Okay. You probably didn?t see it, but she was a guest star once on ?Law & Order: Criminal Intent.? She played a Broadway star/socialite but was looney. And committed murder; cracked up onstage before D?Onofrio arrests her and her widow's peak.
"I love the Outer Limits and have seen practically every episode.?
Have you seen the one with Vera Miles and Barbara Rush and Cedric Hardwicke and ?Ilya Kuryakin???
He (Bruce Jenner) almost LOOKS like a Kardashian woman, BronxGirl. ?Ooooh, don?t you wish your butler was hot like mine!?
"Hahahahaha! I can't say what I think of those girls on a family message board....?
Well I can. They are *&^$* @!##^% *^@$^!! There! Take that!
"HA! Oh, do you really think a "trial run" for the Provence Fest is necessary? Would it have to be a "check-your-I.D.'s-at-the-gate" kind of deal? We'd probably have to forget about sharing a villa and opt instead for individual rooms at a decently-priced hotel.?
Okay...I?ll trust if you trust. I'm starting my payment plan now since it's November 1st.
"I would compare Oland to a jelly donut, bursting with flavor, Toler is a good chewy bagel Roland Winters is a weak tea bag.?
Ow!!! Ha! Well on that note, I?ll leave you. And you?ve also just reminded me not to forget to vote tomorrow.
?JackBurley and I traveled to the Castro Theater on Halloween Eve (Saturday evening) to see Poltergeist with JoBeth Williams there for a pre-screening Q&A. She was great and she looks fabulous.? - << ( lzcutter ) >>
Oh wow! That?s great. Sounds like fun. I think Glenn Close nailed it. Hmmm, perhaps JoBeth could?ve played the wife (she?s wifely sexy). But Anne Archer did well too. The film was well-cast. I?ve got to imdb Williams. See what she?s up to these days.
"The first film I remember Gena in was Gloria. She blew me away! (She blew a lot of people away in that film). I was sixteen at the time. What a woman!? - << ( Molo ) >>
You?re right about that. Very empowering watching (for me as a young woman at the time) her take on the Mob. And the little boy that was her charge was very very good! I'd love to see her play Laura Linney's mother in something. I'm a big fan of them both.
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Remember how JoBeth meets Justin Henry in KRAMER VS. KRAMER?
Billy: "Do you like fried chicken?"
Oh man, I don't quite remember it. Was she scantily clad, or am I thinking of Geena Davis in something?
Anne Francis eighty? Impossible. I just saw her in "HONEY WEST" as a kid. That'd mean I'm getting older. Mavens don't age.
Anne was born in 1930. Hard to believe. I wonder what she looks like now, though. Probably as good as, say, Gena Rowlands. Something about those blondes, they age quite beautifully.
Come to think of it, you're right. Big fan of Gena. There's an Anne Francis interstitial where she talks of her experience in "Bad Day At Black Rock." She should be a featured guest at TCM's festival.
Veda Pierce in that "Queen of the Nile" eppy of The Twilight Zone didn't grow old, either. Quick, someone find me a sacred beetle!
Krull???? KRULL!!!!!!!!!! The leeches!
Edited by: CineMaven on Nov 1, 2010 1:39 AM - Have to add I LOVED her in "GLORIA." "Ya let a woman beat ya, huh! Ya putz!!!"
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