cascabel
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FrankGrimes----I want to recommend *Inside Daisy Clover* even though it was considered a disorganized mess when released and many people seem to hate it. The critics say Natalie was too old to play a teenager and the movie wasn't evil enough to be about show business. That's nonsense. I loved it---the backstage at (I think) Warner Brothers, the Hollywood power plays. Best of all--Natalie's scenes with Ruth Gordon.
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Thank you. I'd like to make it clear that I meant no disrespect to William Holden. He's amazing in *Sunset Blvd.*. I used to try to imagine Montgomery Clift as Joe Gillis--a little younger, prettier than Holden. But, it's no use. Holden was perfect in that too young (and sane) for Norma, but too jaded for Betty dilemma. The young girl wasn't going to redeem him any more than he was going to effect Norma's return to glory--and he looks like he knew it all along.
I'm sorry if I got off-base here. I see that the topic is more like---homely leading men, and leading ladies forced to be flawless. Most of the actors (m&f) I admire and think are so beautiful are on someone's Funny-Looking List, so I'm sure both men and women are denied the right to look unique and to age gracefully in Hollywood. I'm guessing that it's getting harder and harder for men even as it gets marginally easier for women. Life is not fair.
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No, the older man/ younger woman relationship isn't exactly "far-fetched" in real life. It's just that in Hollywood, it's the norm. My own happily-married parents were over 30 years apart, but I certainly grew up hearing from schoolmates and neighbors how unusual that was. And it was a far from ideal situation. My dear father left my sweet mother a widow too soon. Hollywood May/ December love stories usually end before that grim reality sets in. In real life--as opposed to Hollywood--couples tend to be close in age for excellent reason, and people can fall in love hard at any age, but how often do we see an interesting romance of middle age like *Away From Her*?
In his sublime anti-Hollywood movie, *Sunset Blvd.*, perhaps the great Billy Wilder was working out his own fears of getting old and (more?) unattractive; perhaps he didn't have the desire, courage or studio backing to make a movie about an older man (Chaplin? Keaton?) clinging to a girl and his illusions; perhaps, to compensate, he gave the women most of the energy in the film. Perhaps not. In any case, it's clear that lively Gloria Swanson doesn't seem that much older than William Holden, who does look too worn-out, depressed and cynical (old!) for fresh-faced Nancy Olson. When I was younger I saw this differently, but, as an adult, I think it's the funniest thing in the movie.
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Ooohh, love this movie. *Champagne For Caesar*. Ronald Colman, Vincent Price, Celeste Holm, even Art Linkletter.
I commend you for continuing to struggle with this board. It's become too frustrating for me to reply, having to click repeatedly and start over. Good luck.
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Hello, FrankGrimes---Natalie Wood's talent was wasted in her later mostly forgettable films. She was at her best in the late adolescent/ early adulthood roles--*Splendor In The Grass*, *Gypsy*, *Love With The Proper Stranger*, *Inside Daisy Clover*, *This Property Is Condemned*. Favorites are *Gypsy* and *Daisy*. In those movies, she really seems to be getting back at her family and Hollywood--anyone who tried to possess and use her--but she does it in the wriest, most charming way (with the occasional explosion). This beautiful lady had too much intelligence and dignity to let herself be bitter.
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I'm looking forward to watching *La Jetee* tomorrow, but I'm a little sorry TCM didn't program more of a Labor Day-specific schedule. Do you have any suggestions for next Labor Day? I'm anxious to learn more about good movies (from before the 1960s.) Thank you in advance. My wish list:
*Metropolis* (1927)
*Modern Times* (1936)
*The Devil And Miss Jones* (1941)
*Employees' Entrance* (1933)
*Black Fury* (1935)
*How Green Was My Valley* (1941)
*Salt Of The Earth* (1954)
*The Grapes Of Wrath* (1940)
*Animal Farm* (1955)
*On The Waterfront* (1954)
*Edge Of The City* (1957)
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Hi. The description in your first paragraph reminded me strongly of the ending to *The Big Sleep* (1946)
http://www.tcmdb.com/title/title.jsp?stid=45
---but that movie, of course, stars Humphrey Bogart as private investigator Philip Marlowe, not Jimmy Stewart as a reporter.
Stewart did play a reporter in *Call Northside 777* (1948).
http://www.tcmdb.com/title/title.jsp?stid=70092 Hope this is of some help.
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HOW I WON THE WAR (1967) with John Lennon as Gripweed
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Is it Greg Kinnear?
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Hello, abrownfan. May I chime in here for a moment? I'm worried that you're getting stressed about this. I'm sorry if your posts have been deleted. There are all sorts of new things to get used to around here today. It might have been unintentional---as other, more experienced posters have explained.
When I read the page you mention, I see a couple people making serious political arguments, a couple more engaging in what is, apparently, an ongoing personal conversation (entirely their own business), and some more posters just having fun with *Caine Mutiny* wisecracks. One of those enjoy it or ignore it pages. Anyone who had wanted to say anything objective or admiring about Ms. Fonda's movie career had already done so, I guess.
We all love movies, and, on this forum, that's what's important, right? Peace, cascabel
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hlywdkjk, I don't really disagree with you either. All forms of bigotry are wrong, of course. But, when I see movies like Bright Road, Hallelujah, and Cabin In The Sky, I'm so impressed with the level of talent and so sad that these gifted actors weren't working all the time in bigger and better roles--the way so many (not all, but many) of their white counterparts were. At least one day of showcasing these fine actors might provide a revelation to someone out there in the TV audience. In a better world, we'd see these movies all the time. In a truly ideal world, thousands of great movies with integrated casts would have been made throughout the 20th century. Please understand that I'm not really disagreeing with you. Your list of movies is good, and I'd like to add Salt Of The Earth to it.
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Dear Ms. Jason--
Well, this just gets nicer and nicer! I can't wait to read your books. It's so refreshing to hear that you enjoyed your career and have no hangups. What a lovely testament to your sister--and to your own beautiful spirit.
May I suggest you get your publisher or someone to provide a Wikipedia entry for you? I wasn't able to find enough information there. Oh, and I'd like to see you sometime on TCM talking with Robert Osborne about your interesting life and friends. What a treat that would be! Thank you again!
FredCDobbs: Thank you for the link. I loved those photos.
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Ok, now. We're trying. Jack Paar was born in Ohio, and he played himself in Variety Time, right? And sweetheart Marilyn Monroe was in Love Nest...
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Dear goldenerakid--
Are you really Ms.Sybil Jason?! Forgive my wariness, please, but cyberspace is a funny place full of people claiming to be everything they're not. Anyway, if you are Sybil Jason, thank you! I've never received a letter from a movie star before. This is the coolest thing! It was very kind of you to take the time.
I am looking forward to reading your memoirs--both volumes. I hope you do a book tour to promote your work. If so, please try to include a stop in New Mexico. I'd love to get an autograph from you. Thank you again.
Peace, cascabel
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Excellent idea!
Bright Road (1953) featuring Dorothy Dandridge
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Steve Allen?
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Oh, thank you, but I'm no good at making up challenging clues (as I demonstrated in the DoYouKnowMe thread awhile back). I just like to hazard a guess now and then. Hoping one of the masters will take this on....
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The Killing?
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Not crazy. You're on to something. Have you checked out <> ? They have a list of related movies there (as well as Lynch's clues), but this doesn't seem to include Jam Session. I think you've discovered another clue, maybe the key!
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I thought this was a comedy piece. I don't like movies, but I have a publishing contract and a knack for writing about matters outside my expertise, so help me write "my" book!
(Wild speculation, of course. I don't think the poster mentioned an actual book deal.)
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I wish she could land better roles. She was excellent in Barfly, but that was about 20 years ago.
Any chance of you taking down those unfortunate National Enquirer-type photos? Faye Dunaway should never have done The-Movie-That-Should-Not-Be-Named, but she's acknowledged that. Let's remember her as a beauty.
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Hi. I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but the following movies are about military nurses in the Philippines during Bataan and Corregidor battles--So Proudly We Hail (1943--Claudette Colbert, Paulette Goddard, Veronica Lake) and Cry "Havoc" (1944--Margaret Sullivan, Ann Sothern, Joan Blondell, Fay Bainter). You can read plot descriptions on the TCM database by clicking the DB HOME button at the top of this screen and entering the titles. Hope that helps you out. And welcome to the board!
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Dear Bartlett--
It saddens me that you would consider giving up posting this thread. As a newcomer here, I am deeply grateful for all the work you and mongo and the other generous elders do. I'm also overwhelmed by the amount of information on these threads. I can't pick through it all by myself. It's selfish of me, I know, but I'm so glad you've taken on the responsibility to sort and update. Please don't stop.
Peace, cascabel
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Thank you! It's nice to meet another Wodehouse fan. I've also been a fan of Fred Astaire forever, but I don't even remember if I've seen A Damsel In Distress. I will look out for it. And I've wondered about the BBC series. Can't wait to see it now. After rooting about in the databases, I realized I had seen a couple of Arthur Treacher films--Thank You, Jeeves! (1936) and Step Lively, Jeeves! (1937)--but that was years ago, and I recall little about them.
I imagine Fry, Laurie and Treacher are all good with this material. I just wish Robert Donat or Ronald Colman (or David Niven, Rex Harrison, George Sanders) had made a series of movies based on the adventures of the sublime Psmith. Maybe TV is serving Wodehouse better than film.
Peace, cascabel
some leading men were so homely
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coopsgirl---*Ten North Frederick* is a favorite of my family, even if it makes us cry. Gary Cooper was so good as the tortured character in that movie. I'm grateful my father had a much more fulfilling life. You never really know how things will work out, so I can't be categorically opposed to May/December romances. I just wish filmmakers didn't rely on them quite so much--especially if they're not honest about the sad downside to the relationship.
Other older man/ younger woman movies: *Cass Timberlane* (Spencer Tracy-47, Lana Turner-26), *Bulworth* (Warren Beatty-61, Halle Berry-32), *Atlantic City* (Burt Lancaster-68, Susan Sarandon-35), *Poison Ivy* (Tom Skerritt-59, Drew Barrymore-17), *Lost In Translation* (Bill Murray-53, Scarlett Johansson-19). Of course, in *Georgy Girl*, Lynn Redgrave (23) had an enviable choice between James Mason (57) and Alan Bates (32).
And then sometimes the situation is reversed. *Harold and Maude* (Ruth Gordon-75, Bud Cort-22)is one of the great life-affirming movies of all time. Katharine Hepburn (61) and Peter O'Toole (36) were splendid in *A Lion In Winter*. What was the fuss about in *All That Heaven Allows*? Jane Wyman was only 10, 11 years older than Rock Hudson. And the offensive issue in the *The Graduate* was the adultery, not the age difference. Sometimes it's fun to know the real ages of the actors. What did sexy 36yo Mrs.Robinson ever see in oafish 30yo Benjamin, anyway?