Film_Fatale

> {quote:title=casablancalover wrote:}{quote} > > I do not necessarily think hindsight is the advantage in storywriting. I think looking back at the 60's after several decades definitely leads to many insights that couldn't possibly have come from someone writing in the 60's. So many of the things that people enjoy about that series come from the fact that we know thing the characters obviously don't about how society will have changed in a few decades time (and we can also appreciate how the 60's themselves represented change from the postwar period).

> {quote:title=casablancalover wrote:}{quote} > > I do not necessarily think hindsight is the advantage in storywriting. I think looking back at the 60's after several decades definitely leads to many insights that couldn't possibly have come from someone writing in the 60's. So many of the things that people enjoy about that series come from the fact that we know thing the characters obviously don't about how society will have changed in a few decades time (and we can also appreciate how the 60's themselves represented change from the postwar period).

*Clash by Night* nw: sunflower B-)

> {quote:title=filmlover wrote:}{quote} > Film Fatale, those last two titles are in the following brand new announcement, with details of Criterion's first five _Blu-ray_ releases in _November_. All will have street prices of $39.95 (so, of course will be cheaper on Amazon and the like...also, Criterion have all available for pre-order at $31.96). I checked and the Blu-ray release of The Last Emperor will have the features that are in the 4-disc standard DVD set, EXCEPT the added extended TV version. > Well whaddya know. Maybe I'll still want to get the regular DVD of *The Last Emperor* after all. Yes, I'm a bit of a completist when it comes to this movie.

Well all I can do is hope that if the days are hot, there'll be a nice cinema nearby where they turn the AC high and you can watch a few movies that you like. B-)

> {quote:title=mongo wrote:}{quote} > > > On the set of "Camille" with director George Cukor, Greta Garbo & Robert Taylor Lovely photo! :x

> {quote:title=MissMusical wrote:}{quote} > Unfortunately for me, Texas summers don't end until the middle of November. > Ouch! Hope it cools off a bit soon.

> {quote:title=harlowcutie11 wrote:}{quote} > I know, I know, three stars in one thread.... not a problem, I hope? Not at all! The more, the merrier

So Ava, you watching *Rita* right now?

Awwwww it's not like that. I just thought you missed the earlier thread and would enjoy reading what some of us had already posted. Don't see any reason why people can't share *all* of the movies they've seen over the summer B-)

I guess I might as well update my list: *_LIKED_* *Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull* *Mamma Mia!* *Iron Man* *Tropic Thunder* *Vicky Cristina Barcelona* *Star Wars: The Clone Wars* *Wall-E* *Kung Fu Panda* *Sex and the City* *Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants 2* *Get Smart* *_DISLIKED_* *The Dark Knight* - just atrocious! *The Happening* - waste of time! *Journey to the Center of the Earth 3-D* - meh. *Don't Mess with the Zohan* - the less said the better. *Speed Racer* - UGGGH! *The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor* - yuck!

There's already a thread on this very subject: http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?threadID=132791&tstart=60

> {quote:title=hlywdkjk wrote:}{quote} > *"What do we do now?"* - Bronxgirl48 > > Shhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Remind me not to sit next to you in a movie theater! I would sit next to Bronxgirl in a movie theater

In your opinion, does this sound like the kind of book a classic movie fan might like to buy? http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/16/books/16poem.html August 16, 2008 *Dylan?s Poetic Pause in Hollywood on the Way to Folk Music Fame* By JULIE BOSMAN Barry Feinstein, the rock ?n? roll photographer, was digging through his archives last year when he came across a long-forgotten bundle of pictures, dozens of dark, moody snapshots of Hollywood in the early 1960s. And tucked next to the photographs was a set of prose poems, written around the same time by an old friend: Bob Dylan. ?It was the lost manuscript,? Mr. Feinstein recalled in a telephone interview from his home in Woodstock, N.Y. ?Everybody forgot about it but me.? The poems were so lost that Mr. Dylan, when told of the discovery, had forgotten that he had written them. (In his defense, it was the ?60s.) But after languishing in storage for more than 40 years, the text and photographs will be published in November in a collection titled ?Hollywood Foto-Rhetoric: The Lost Manuscript.? It is the latest installment in Mr. Dylan?s seemingly never-ending body of work, which includes more than 50 albums, a critically acclaimed autobiography and a recently published collection of arty sketches called ?Bob Dylan: The Drawn Blank Series.? The new book, to be published by Simon & Schuster, includes more than 75 of Mr. Feinstein?s photographs and 23 of Mr. Dylan?s prose poems, which are each marked alphabetically to correspond to a photo. The book was created during a period in the 1960s when Mr. Feinstein was a 20-something ?flunky? at a movie studio, he said, having arrived in Hollywood eager to be part of the industry and having landed a job working for Harry Cohn, the legendarily abrasive president of Columbia Pictures. ?I was living in California, in Hollywood, working at the studio, and I thought there was something there journalistically in taking these pictures that were not at all glamorous,? Mr. Feinstein said. ?They were really the dark side of glamour.? He roamed around movie sets, snapping pictures backstage and in dressing rooms, and during off hours he drove around Hollywood with his camera in tow. The result is a collection of pictures that are sometimes dreary and sometimes tongue-in-cheek, shots of movie props and roadside stands, topless starlets and headless mannequins. In one photo a young woman, visible only from the ankles down, crouches on Sophia Loren?s star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, a hand pressed onto the cement. In another photo a parking lot at 20th Century Fox, marked by a large sign for ?Talent,? is completely empty. After assembling the photographs, Mr. Feinstein thought of Mr. Dylan, whom he had met before on the East Coast. ?I asked him as a joke, ?Wanna come out and maybe write something about these photographs?? ? Mr. Feinstein said. ?So he came out and wrote some text.? Mr. Dylan, then in his 20s, arrived in Hollywood, examined the photographs and wrote his own prose poems to accompany them. No one involved in the book can recall exactly when Mr. Dylan wrote the poems, which are by turns sparse, playful, witty and sarcastic. But the words faintly recall ?Tarantula,? Mr. Dylan?s book of prose poems (or ?Dadaist novel,? as some would call it) that was written in 1966, and they bear a strong resemblance to the ?11 Outlined Epitaphs? in the liner notes of ?The Times They Are A-Changin,? his 1964 album. As the ?11 Outlined Epitaphs? begin: ?I end up then in the early evenin? blindly punchin? at the blind breathin? heavy stutterin? an? blowin? up where t? go? what is it that?s exactly wrong? The ?Foto-Rhetoric? poems use similar punctuation and style. In the text accompanying a photo of Marlene Dietrich appearing stricken at Gary Cooper?s funeral in 1961, Mr. Dylan wrote: ?t dare not ask your sculpturer?s name/with glance back hooked, time?s hinges halt.? After the photos and text were pulled together into a rough manuscript, Mr. Dylan and Mr. Feinstein took it to a publisher, Macmillan, where executives expressed interest but were afraid that the pictures would bring a lawsuit from the studio. So the manuscript was put aside, and Mr. Feinstein kept it for more than four decades in his vast collection of photographs, books and other papers. ?I knew it was an important document,? he said. ?So I kept it in the back of my head all that time.? Mr. Feinstein went on to develop a close collaboration with Mr. Dylan. He shot the cover photo for ?The Times They Are A-Changin,? and dozens of photos of Mr. Dylan throughout the years. Through his manager, Jeff Rosen, Mr. Dylan declined to comment on the book, and he is not expected to promote it. But at 67, Mr. Dylan is just as prolific as ever, writing, touring and releasing albums. Just this week, he performed in Prospect Park, Brooklyn, and in October he is expected to release another collection of songs, ?Tell Tale Signs: The Bootleg Series Vol. 8.? ?Hollywood Foto-Rhetoric? is the fourth book that David Rosenthal, the publisher of Simon & Schuster, has worked on with Mr. Dylan, including ?Chronicles: Volume One,? his 2004 memoir, which sold nearly 750,000 copies. ?They?re lyrical, they?re funny, they?re singular,? Mr. Rosenthal said of the prose poems. ?And everybody looking at them, when we first saw them, knew they could be by no one other than Bob.? David Remnick, the editor of The New Yorker, said that this fall the magazine will publish two of the poems and perhaps a photograph or two. Christopher Ricks, a professor of the humanities at Boston University and the author of ?Dylan?s Visions of Sin,? an admiring study of Mr. Dylan, noted the contrast between the Hollywood book, in its black-and-white starkness, and Mr. Dylan?s most recent book, the collection of cheerful, brightly colored paintings. ?From the beginning, he?s been a mixed medium artist,? Mr. Ricks said. ?He?s never been a straight linear person. He?s had a whole lot of miscellany.?

> {quote:title=judycwrite wrote:}{quote} > *Grand Hotel* > > New word: Moonlight *Moonlight and Valentino* nw: calzone

Burt I. Gordon the director?

> {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote} > Nitey night, Kathy and everyone! > > And *Never Apologize* (for loving chocolate among other things)! Goes double for me. I hope I can dream of not just double fudge but also a few extra brownies.

To me they're not easy to compare. One is a movie from the 50's and one is a cable series from the 21st century (but set in the 60's). They might just be very different views of something similar. One of them obviously has the advantage of hindsight.

*The Rocky Horror Picture Show* nw: antitrust

Did I hear someone say *chocolate cake* ?!?!?

> {quote:title=joefilmone wrote:}{quote} > Rita Hayworth was the reason they invented Technicolor. Its hard to believe that someone that luminous actually walked among us. She looked great in Technicolour *or* in B&W, as any viewing of *Gilda* will attest.

> {quote:title=lzcutter wrote:}{quote} > You are being way to modest. In the dog days of summer here on this boards, you are my current must read and hero. > > Thanks to you there has been Diet Coke spewed all over my keyboard more than once. > > I hope you continue in this vain as you are one of the few shining lights on a daily basis around here. What she said! B-)

> {quote:title=scsu1975 wrote:}{quote} > Did you know that in the famous carousel scene in Strangers On a Train, Alfred Hitchcock was disguised as a horse? Well, no wonder one of the guys on the carousel looked so happy!!!

Don't mean to go off-topic, but just wanted to take the chance to congratulate Ms. G for her 13,000+ posts. B-)

November Criterion's announced: *Fanfan la Tulipe* (Christian-Jaque, 1952), *The Spy Who Came in from the Cold* (Martin Ritt, 1965), *Bottle Rocket* (Wes Anderson, 1996) and *Chungking Express* (Wong Kar-wai, 1994) The last two have also been announced for eventual Criterion Blu-ray.