Film_Fatale

> {quote:title=clore wrote:}{quote} > The 1929 SHOW BOAT is one that I've missed. It's a real curiosity piece for me as it started out as a silent version of the Ferber book, but musical numbers were grafted onto it once the play became a hit. > Yes, those early talkies, like *Rio Rita*, are a mixed bag sometimes, and they can certainly seem dated. But it's still great to know they'll be showing it on TCM. That's the only one I don't have in my collection.

> {quote:title=CineMaven wrote:}{quote} > True dat. True dat. Okay, I'm going to the Cutting Room tonite to see Joan Rivers. I'll look around and see what I can see for you. Is that part of the birthday celebration, CM?

I remember the 1954 version of *Rose Marie* being quite entertaining, although perhaps many people will still prefer the Nelson Eddy-Jeanette McDonald original. At least the 50's remake features some great location shooting.

> {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote} > >Hey Chris, are you still moderating at the Silver Screen Forum? > > Yep. Great! I was wondering if you'd be so kind to let folks know about the new TCM fans Social Network. Many of them probably wouldn't have time to join yet another site, but just in case some may be interested, the address is http://tcmfans.ning.com Thanks!

*Did I read somewhere that 'Criss Cross' is being replayed soon?* There are no showings scheduled, but it is available on DVD.

I bet that would be an interesting read. I never really heard that much about him, but I have enjoyed many of his films over the years. He did a great job with so many of his films, his version of *Cleopatra* was incredibly entertaining. I'm hoping to watch his silent version of *The Ten Commandments* pretty soon. Has anyone here seen it?

> {quote:title=faceinthecrowd wrote:}{quote} > THE DARK CORNER is terrific, with Clifton Webb in one of his patented waspish roles, and William Bendix as a thug (watch what happens when they meet in an office building). Lucille Ball is used to good advantage, and the plot is a doozy. I would definitely like to watch it. I like all of those actors a lot. > I've seen only the 1936 SHOWBOAT. Helen Morgan sings "Bill," and Paul Robeson sings "Ol' Man River." Enough said? I think I got my recording from TCM, it's a great version and Irene Dunne is very good in it. Of course, the whole cast was good, from what I can remember.

Well, it's a fun little western, and Dennis and Jane Wyman definitely seemed to have some good chemistry, imho. Alan Hale added a nice little playful touch in his supporting part as the town's deputy sheriff. The plot might have been a bit more complicated than you'd expect in a western. Some of the twists and turns and the double-crossings might not have been out of place in a film noir, but they wrapped things up nicely in the end.

Here are some Yul photos from *The Ten Commandments*. I've been meaning to make some screencaps but haven't had time. B-)

*Black Narcissus* was definitely one of her best performances, imho. We really should thank Powell & Pressburger for "discovering" Kerr. Here she is in a still from *The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp*:

> {quote:title=ILoveRayMilland wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=Film_Fatale wrote:}{quote} > > Well, that's an interesting point. Did Judy really fall in love with Scotty, or did she just want the attention and all the things Scotty was buying her? Maybe she did feel a little something for him, but was it real love? Couldn't there also have been a bit of guilt for having deceived him the first time? > > Hmm...Yes, it did have some guilt attached. And maybe also the way he put her on a pedestal. But, I also think, adding to it, that she liked the way he protected her and cared for her. (Well, she thought he did. It turned out to be more obsession than love, as was already noted.) It was very complex relationship though. Well I agree completely. The guilt element must have been quite strong, especially since she had participated in a crime. Now, if some guy came on to me like Scotty did with Judy, I would probably be a bit freaked out at first, but if he looked like such a sweet guy as Jimmy Stewart, I might just start enjoying the attention, hee hee. But the interesting thing is that Hitchcock could see the darker side to Stewart's nice-guy persona, just like Anthony Mann did in movies like *The Man From Laramie*. His dark side pushes him to go a bit too far, and unfortunately Judy becomes something of a willing accomplice, like she did earlier when setting him up. I think it might also be interesting to compare and contrast *Vertigo* with *Pygmalion*. It occurs to me now that *Vertigo* could be considered a very dark variation on the basic premise of *Pygmalion*.

> {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > I like the freckle picture. It's nice to see her "au naturale" .... That is one of my favourite ones, too. I don't recall having had such a good look at her freckles before. Hey Chris, are you still moderating at the Silver Screen Forum?

Brian de Palma directed *Obsession* with _Cliff Robertson._

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a new biography on DeMille is nearing completion by author Scott Eyman (Print the Legend---The Life and Times of John Ford). It should be interesting, no less because it's apparently authorized by the DeMille family. It sounds like a bio I would like to read. DeMille was kind of the Spielberg of his time, he was the king of movie spectacles, his movies were incredibly popular but I guess he didn't get much respect from the critics, even if his *Greatest Show on Earth* won the Oscar.

Reed comes very close to being my favorite director.....Oliver, The Fallen Idol, Odd Man Out, and the very best -The Third Man - these are all so high on my list. I love that Reed is a technical director. He has all the tricks that Welles or Lang had, but he has a heart and soul too. You feel so very deeply for his characters, even when he shows you their worst flaws right up front.... What'd you think of *Our Man in Havana* ?

> {quote:title=CineMaven wrote:}{quote} > Mine? To watch films that I have never seen before. Watching movies that I've never seen before is already a kind of a lifelong resolution for me. But, in addition to that, I hope to revisit some classics I haven't watched in a long time, and hope to gain greater appreciation for them. Just in the last few days I've revisited a few movies I hadn't seen in decades, including *Gone with the Wind*, *The Ten Commandments*, *The Red Shoes* and *Bonnie and Clyde*. I find I may be a little bit wiser with the passing years.

> {quote:title=calvinnme wrote:}{quote} > This gives me hope that Warners is getting ready to release that Showboat collection they've been promising for years. In December 2007 TCM broadcast the 1936 version and the voiceover introduction mentioned that a commentary track was embedded in the recording. Now they are broadcasting a part-talkie musical from 1929. To me, they wouldn't be doing this unless they are getting ready to release the 1929/1936/1951 trilogy of Showboat movies shortly. I have also been waiting for that promised set for ages. Remember that once in a while TCM will show some of the movies that are just then being released by WHV, or even by other studios (remember the "Ford at Fox" movies that TCM showed). Maybe, just maybe, the "Complete Show Boat" will finally make its way to DVD.

> {quote:title=ChipHeartsMovies wrote:}{quote} > Pia, clearly you belong on these boards. If you can put up with the drama of this thread, you're one of us. > I agree with Chip on this, Pia. Clearly there's a lot of folks who enjoy vague innuendo and guilt-by-association tactics, even though they know full well they're very nearly flaunting the forum Code by doing this - which appears to be their way of expressing dismay at some of the things that may have happened before there was a Code. There are important reasons, I think, why the Code prohibits making unsubstantiated accusations or otherwise attempting to violate the privacy of folks who post here. Not to have such rules in place would make the place even more unwelcoming than it sometimes is to newer forum users. If some folks want to hold a grudge for things that apparently happened 2 or 3 years ago, that's their right. But they don't have to ruin it for TCM viewers who are new to the forums and have in some cases been welcomed with some degree of suspicion, as was the case with the folks who signed up around New Year's Eve. Let TCM worry about enforcing the Code, and enjoy the movie discussions.

> {quote:title=kimpunkrock wrote:}{quote} > Anyone else out there like this picture? > > - > kpr kpr, I like it enough to want to watch it again when TCM shows it this Sunday (even though I watched it on DVD not too long ago). I'm replying to this thread hoping a few more folks might chime in with their opinions, before or after TCM's showing on Sunday.

Noel Coward was in *The Italian Job* with Michael Caine

> {quote:title=randyishere wrote:}{quote} > Not campy to me. I steer away from the critics, the hype, and others' opinions and use the brain God gave me to make up my own mind about a movie or subject. Bottom line for me is i want to be entertained, period. I like and enjoy escapist fare. It's fun and unencumbered and lightens the mood of a drab, cold winter day. I can certainly see why anyone could consider The Conqueror campy as it is not your typical John Wayne role or film. And there's nothing wrong with that, either. Some consider *The Ten Commandments* to be a bit on the campy side, but that doesn't keep me from enjoying it very much just as it is. Yes, I can see why some of the lines sound (perhaps unintentionally?) funny. But it's still a great spectacle.

> {quote:title=clore wrote:}{quote} > And THE BLUE DAHLIA will play back-to-back with THE DARK CORNER on that night. That makes for a nice noir double-bill. I don't think I've ever seen *The Dark Corner*, but it sounds intriguing. > What really intrigues me about the April sked is that the 1929 SHOWBOAT is listed to air. Have you seen it before? How about the 1936 version?

> {quote:title=CineMaven wrote:}{quote} > F_F: the 1% of the time I am not informative, entertaining and personable is purposely meant to be what ever that is. And are pretty good odds out of 100%. Well, those are good odds, I admit. And maybe you do a better job than me of being informative, entertaining and personable. But I keep trying! It is in that spirit that I invite you and all other ramblers here to the TCM fans Social Network, http://tcmfans.ning.com - it's been up for about a week but we've had quite a few folks sign up already. You can create your own personal profile page and upload as many photos and/or videos as you like. Have a lovely day in the Big Apple! B-)