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*The Great John L. was a good one, as well. (Although John L. Sullivan himself wasn't that nice a guy. He blew off my grandfather, when he was just a little boy, and was pretty nasty to him. But that's another thread, I guess.)*
I think you mean Flynn's character of James Corbett in GENTLEMAN JIM. Ward Bond played John L. Sullivan in it. Doug McClure played Sullivan in THE GREAT JOHN L.
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*Anyway, noir, schmoir. Sometimes I think we all worry too much about labels. They are all very good, highly enjoyable films...Kiss of Death, Pickup on South Street, Night and the City, and Panic in the Streets. Regardless of how we categorize any of them. And they're all much the better for having Richard Widmark in them.*
IMHO Probably Widmark's best role, and one of his very best films from his 20th Century Fox period, is his vicious rascist thug in NO WAY OUT. Another harrowing, intense movie with a handful of excellent performances.
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*As for Tierney being a femme fatale in NATC, I don't think so. A femme fatale manipulates things, usually a man, to suit her own purposes. This is what she does, her goal in a film noir is to gain control of a man - sometimes more than one man- to gratify her own ambition, whether for power, wealth, or even just to reject the one who loves her, "because she can". She tends to be very single-minded, greedy, and very deceptive.*
The Real femme fatale in NIGHT AND THE CITY is the Googie Withers character. In her excellent characterization, she has manipulated the poor Francis Sullivan character, and while he outsmarts her in the end, she did drive him to his death. If this crime melodrama genre had had more prestige at that time, I can see multiple acting nominations for this cast.
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{font:Times New Roman}*It’s outrageous that she never won an Oscar. Pickup always leaves me in a puddle of tears when she gets it; I think it’s her most memorable role. She deserves a "What a Character" spot.*
I agree Thelma Ritter should have received an oscar at some point. My two favorite performances, If I were forced to choose, would be in A LETTER TO THREE WIVES and THE MODEL AND THE MARRIAGE-BROKER. Excellent in both IMHO.{font}
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From the Fox Movie Channel Website:
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 25:
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN TO A DOG
A reporter who wants to solve crimes gets into comic scrapes with a beautiful stranger and a misunderstood dog.
*Cast:* Allyn Joslyn, Carole Landis, Harry Morgan
*Director:* Herbert I. Leeds
1946
7:08 am EST, 4:08 AM PST:
THE SOUND AND THE FURY
William Faulkner's steamy drama of a young girl (Joanne Woodward) seeking independence in a strict Southern family with issues of alcoholism, illegitimacy and ****.
*Cast:* Yul Brynner, Joanne Woodward, Margaret Leighton, Stuart Whitman, Ethel Waters, Jack Warden, John Beal, Albert Dekker
*Director:* Martin Ritt
1959
9:05 am EST, 6:05 AM PST:
DESIRE IN THE DUST
Southern aristocrat (Raymond Burr) with a yen for politics tries to hide some family members' pasts.
*Cast:* Joan Bennett, Raymond Burr, Martha Hyer, Ken Scott, Edward Binns, Rex Ingram, Irene Ryan
*Director:* William Claxton
1960
10:45 am EST, 7:45 AM PST:
TENDER IS THE NIGHT
An adaptation of F. Scott Fitzgerald's story of a wealthy American (Jason Robards) living among the jet set in Europe between the wars
*Cast:* Jason jr. Robards, Jennifer Jones, Tom Ewell, Joan Fontaine, Jill St. john
1962
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 27:
5:15 am EST, 2:15 AM PST:
FOX LEGACY: THE TYRONE POWER STORY
Tom Rothman, Chairman and CEO of Fox Filmed Entertainment, introduces landmark 20th Century Fox films and provides insight about how these notable films were created.
*Cast:* Tom Rothman
2010
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
THAT WONDERFUL URGE
A remake of "Love Is News", finds a newspaperman (Power) trying to dig up dirt on a prominent society girl (Tierney).
*Cast:* Tyrone Power, Gene Tierney, Chill Wills, Reginald Gardiner
*Director:* Roger Sinclair
1948
7:30 am EST, 4:30 AM PST:
EVERYTHING HAPPENS AT NIGHT
A British reporter (Ray Millan) competes with an American reporter (Robert Cummings) for the story of a murdered political comenator and for the affections of his ice skater daughter (Sonja Henie).
*Cast:* Ray Milland, Sonja Henie, Robert Cummings, Leonid Kinsley, Maurice Moscovitch
*Director:* Irving Cummings
1939
9:00 am EST, 6 AM PST:
WHAT A WAY TO GO!
A young woman (MacLaine) wants love and not money, so she marries poor men... but they all promptly become rich and die, leaving her a wealthier widow.
*Cast:* Shirley Maclaine, Paul Newman, Gene Kelly, Robert Mitchum, Dean Martin, Dick Van dyke, Robert Cummings
*Director:* J. Lee Thompson
1964
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 28:
4:56 am EST, 1:56 AM PST:
SILENT CALL
A dog traverses hundreds of miles to be reunited with his human family.
*Cast:* Gail Russell, David Mclean, Roger Mobley, Joe Besser
*Director:* John Bushelman
1960
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
GEORGE WHITE'S 1935 SCANDALS
A small town girl (Alice Faye) is discovered by a producer (White) and becomes a Broadway star.
*Cast:* Alice Faye, James Dunn, Ned Sparks, Eleanor Powell, Lyda Roberti
*Director:* George White
1935
7:30 am EST, 4:30 AM PST:
UP THE RIVER
Two hapless convicts (Spencer Tracy and Warren Hymer) try to assist a fellow cell mate (Humphrey Bogart) who has fallen in love with a female prisoner (Claire Luce). Directed by John Ford. Tracy's feature debut, Bogart's second film.
*Cast:* Spencer Tracy, Humphrey Bogart, Warren Hymer
*Director:* John Ford
1930
9:00 am EST, 6 AM PST:
SEVEN THIEVES
A professor (Edward G. Robinson) conspires to steal $4,000,000 from vaults underneath a Monte Carlo casino. Rod Steiger and Joan Collins co-star.
*Cast:* Edward g. Robinson, Rod Steiger, Alexander Scourby, Joan Collins, Eli Wallach
*Director:* Henry Hathaway
1961
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*Vivian Leigh is my favorite female actress but I am not sure how a Garfield and Leigh pairing would have worked. Although maybe it would worked in a "opposites sort of attack way." The New York city street kid with the cultured English lady might have been very interesting to see.*
A plausible pairing of Vivien and John could have been in her STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE. He could have given Stanley Kowalski an interesting take IMHO.
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ANY NUMBER CAN PLAY, with Clark Gable and Alexis Smith, has the King as a gambler, so it fits the "Casino Night" bill.
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*I think you need to look back at my earlier posts. I was simply agreeing with helenbaby that Bacall has good points and it is worth her being SOTM.*
*Nowhere in my post did I say her role in the MILLIONAIRE movie was a character part.*
Since your response was to a post on Bacall in this movie, I interpreted that to mean you referred to HTMAM, as well as the other movies where she was part of an ensemble, as it was an ensemble part in MILLIONAIRE. I apologize if the context made me misinterpret your meaning.
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> That faked slap is what appears in the final film.
False.
Topbilled:
Now this is your particular undesirable personality trait. You stick to your guns when shown how it was, and you refuse to accept it...with no evidence to cite, unlike the passages from Flynn's autobiography that was the source of this story, apparently the only first person one at that. Also your totally unfounded assertion that Davis had the hots for Flynn and that may be part of why she treated him the way he did. As I say, we each have our quirks.
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*You are taking the joy out of posting around here. I think people are afraid to say anything for fear that you will correct them. What an undesirable personality trait and I am done talking directly with you.*
We each have our quirks don't we? As I've stated before, mine deals with infomation that is transmitted here, half a century and more after the fact. If it is something that I may see to be incomplete, incorrect, or misleading, I will post my view of such. Sorry but that is how I am. If it is a joy to post anything here and not worry about whether it is correct or not, then I'm sorry by my character trait.
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helenbaby wrote:
I'm not a huge fan of Bacall, but she really does outshine both Grable & Monroe in How To Marry a Millionaire. What a fun movie. It had been a long time since I watched it.
Topbilled answered:
*Her niche is really those expensive ensemble dramas where the box office does not rest on her shoulders and where despite her glamour she can play a very sharp character part while remaining highly billed.*
Bacall was NOT playing a character role here; she was one of the three stars, each part roughly equal in weight. Unlike earlier versions of the oft-filmed (by Fox) tale of three girls on the make for rich husbands, HOW TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE has each girl on an even level; the other movies always had one (the star) pretending to be a rich girl on vacation, traveling with her secretary and maid. The story focused on the star; invariably, in the course of the movie the other two were also matched up, but they were in definitely subsidiary roles where, yes, a character actress might be used.
Not here; each girl is an equal. Each model and her individual story takes up approximately one third of the storytelling. Plus, all three here: Grable, Monroe and Bacall, are indisputable STARS; if Bacall was third billed it was because she hadn't done a film in two-three years, but she was still very much in the public eye as Mrs. Bogart. And she had never been the superstar that Betty Grable had been for over a decade by that point, or that Marilyn was just then attaining. Of course top billing was duked out between Grable, at 20th the Queen of the Lot until then, and the usurper to same, Monroe, who had earlier in the year had scored her breakthrough hits that not only established her but launched her into the stratosphere. In any case, Bacall was the equal of the other two in screen time and impact. In fact, as the one who intitiated the whole scheme, and as the sensible one who had to reign the other ones in, it can be argued that hers was the pivotal role.
Critics and fans have variously singled out each actress as the one who stole the film from the other two. Partisans of each usually maintain that "their" girl was the one to do so. The revelation for the critics and the public was that Bacall's acid delivery and pitch perfect timing of her lines in all the dramas and melodramas she had done previously would be so well suited for comedy.
Edited by: Arturo on Sep 21, 2012 4:23 PM
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*I will gladly go on record here saying I am a John Garfield fan. However, I do not consider him naturalistic. He is very rehearsed and a method actor to the core.*
I disagree with the statement above, as I understand it, that his being a method actor makes him not naturalistic and very rehearsed. The whole philosophy of "the method" is to seem to make all actions come from an organic, natural place so that it does not ring as rehearsed or obviously 'acting".
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*Huston pulls a Hitchkok by appearing very briefly in the movie as a Senor Munoz. Also in the film are Gilbert Roland, a wonderfully villainous Laird Cregar, Pedro Armendariz, and a young and very beautiful Jennifer Jones. I'd love to hear from other Garfield fans who know the movie and would agree leaving it out of a retrospective is a major omission.*
I too love this movie, but just one correction....Laird Cregar was NOT in WWS, mainly because he had died several years earlier, in 1945.
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Another showing coming on FMC:
MONDAY, SEPT. 24:
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
TWO FLAGS WEST
The commander of a cavalry fort in the West during the Civil War is forced to accept a unit of Confederate prisoners who have volunteered to fight Indians under Union command as an alternative to rotting in POW camps.
*Cast:* Joseph Cotten, Linda Darnell, Jeff Chandler, Cornel Wilde
*Director:* Robert Wise
1950
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Some good westerns coming to Fox Movie Channel over the weekend:
SUNDAY, SEPT. 23:
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
SIERRA BARONA gunfighter hired to intimidate a rancher falls for the rancher's sister.
*Cast:* Brian Keith, Rita Gam, Rick Jason
*Director:* James B. Clark
1958
7:30 am EST, 4:30 AM PST:
RIO CONCHOS
Wild West adventure of a power struggle between a sadistic Indian-killer (Richard Boone), a Mexican bandit (Tony Franciosa), an Army captain (Stuart Whitman) and a demented Confederate general (Edmund O'Brien) who all fight for a shipment of arms.
*Cast:* Richard Boone, Stuart Whitman, Tony Franciosa, Jim Brown, Wende Wagner, James Brown, Jerry Goldsmith
*Director:* Gordon Douglas
1964
MONDAY, SEPT. 24:
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
TWO FLAGS WEST
The commander of a cavalry fort in the West during the Civil War is forced to accept a unit of Confederate prisoners who have volunteered to fight Indians under Union command as an alternative to rotting in POW camps.
*Cast:* Joseph Cotten, Linda Darnell, Jeff Chandler, Cornel Wilde
*Director:* Robert Wise
1950
7:35 am EST, 4:35 AM PST:
SIEGE AT RED RIVER
A Confederate soldier enlists the North's help in order to retrieve a shipment of Gatling guns.
*Cast:* Van Johnson, Joanne Dru, Richard Boone, Milburn Stone
*Director:* Rudolph Mate
1954
9:05 am EST, 6:05 AM PST:
VIVA ZAPATA
A biographical account of Emiliano Zapata, the Mexican peasant who became president after rallying his people against a dictator.
*Cast:* Marlon Brando, Jean Peters, Anthony Quinn, Joseph Wiseman
*Director:* Elia Kazan
1952
11:00 am EST, 8 AM PST:
WHITE FEATHER
A western about the settlement of Wyoming in 1877 and a government agent (Wagner) who tries to convince a group of Native-Americans to relocate to a reservation.
*Cast:* Robert Wagner, Debra Paget, Jeffrey Hunter, John Lund, Eduard Franz
*Director:* Robert D. Webb
1955
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*The chicken choker ...? What ???*
Ok now Val, I get it away from Chinga-Chonga, which sounds vaguely obscene in Spanish, and you bring it to this?!
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From the FMC Website:
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 20:
3:00 am EST, 12 AM PST:
AN AFFAIR TO REMEMBER
A man and a woman (Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr) fall in love on an ocean voyage, part, and agree to meet six months later atop the Empire State Building in this haunting romance. Used years later, as a clever plot line in "Sleepless In Seattle".
*Cast:* Cary Grant, Deborah Kerr, Richard Denning, Neva Patterson, Cathleen Nesbitt, Fortunio Bonanova, Hugo Friedhofer, Harry Warren
*Director:* Leo Mccarey
1957
4:56 am EST, 1:56 AM PST
THE BULLFIGHTERS
This Laurel and Hardy laugher has the pair in Mexico as private detectives, sent from the States in search of a female criminal.
*Cast:* Stan Laurel, Oliver Hardy
*Director:* Malcolm St. Clair
1945
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
FIVE FINGERS
The true story of a loyal valet (Mason) to the British ambassador in Ankara who turns out to be a cunning spy for the Germans in this fast-paced espionage thriller.
*Cast:* James Mason, Michael Rennie, Danielle Darrieux, Walter Hampden, Oscar Karlweis
*Director:* Joseph L. Mankiewicz
1952
8:00 am EST, 5 AM PST:
THE QUILLER MEMORANDUM
After two British agents are murdered by a mysterious Neo-Nazi organization in West Berlin, British secret service agent Quiller is sent to investigate.
*Cast:* Alec Guinness, Max Von sydow, Senta Berger, George Sanders, George Sega
*Director:* Michael Anderson
1967
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 21:
7:45 am EST, 4:45 AM PST:
WING AND A PRAYER
Set in the South Pacific just after Pearl Harbor, this tells the story of American fighter pilots aboard a navy aircraft carrier and their involvement in the events leading up to the Battle of Midway. Compelling actual combat footage.
*Cast:* Don Ameche, Richard Jaeckel, Glenn Langan, Dana Andrews, Charles Bickford, William Eythe, Cedric Hardwicke, Harry Morgan, Richard Crane
*Director:* Henry Hathaway
1944
9:30 am EST, 6:30 AM PST:
THE HUNTERS
An American jet pilot (Robert Mitchum) in Korea falls in love with the wife (May Britt) of one of his pilots.
*Cast:* Robert Wagner, May Britt, Robert Mitchum, Richard Egan, Lee Phillips
*Director:* Dick Powell
1958
SATURDAY, SEPT. 22:
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
DAYTIME WIFE
A young wife thinks her husband is still dating his secretary, and retaliates by going to work for his colleague.
*Cast:* Tyrone Power, Linda Darnell, Warren William
*Director:* Gregory Ratoff
1939
7:15 am EST, 4:15 AM PST:
MADISON AVENUE
The ruthless world of the advertising business is examined in this film about an executive (Dana Andrews) who sacrifices friends and the love of his girlfriend (Jeannie Crain) to gain power and influence.
*Cast:* Jeanne Crain, Dana Andrews, Eddie Albert, Eleanor Parker
*Director:* H. Bruce Humberstone
1962
SUNDAY, SEPT. 23:
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
SIERRA BARON
A gunfighter hired to intimidate a rancher falls for the rancher's sister.
*Cast:* Brian Keith, Rita Gam, Rick Jason
*Director:* James B. Clark
1958
7:30 am EST, 4:30 AM PST:
RIO CONCHOS
Wild West adventure of a power struggle between a sadistic Indian-killer (Richard Boone), a Mexican bandit (Tony Franciosa), an Army captain (Stuart Whitman) and a demented Confederate general (Edmund O'Brien) who all fight for a shipment of arms.
*Cast:* Richard Boone, Stuart Whitman, Tony Franciosa, Jim Brown, Wende Wagner, James Brown, Jerry Goldsmith
*Director:* Gordon Douglas
1964
9:20 am EST, 6:20 AM PST:
THE REWARD
A Mexican police chief and his assistant pursue an American with a price on his head.
*Cast:* Max Von sydow, Yvette Mimieux, Elmer Bernstein
*Director:* Serge Bourguignon
1965
MONDAY, SEPT. 24:
4:43 am EST, 1:43 AM PST:
BLUE, WHITE AND PERFECT
Shayne tries to quit sleuthing for his fianc�s sake, but soon ends up investigating stolen diamonds.
*Cast:* Lloyd Nolan, Mary beth Hughes, Helene Reynolds, George Reeves
*Director:* Herbert I. Leeds
1941
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
TWO FLAGS WEST
The commander of a cavalry fort in the West during the Civil War is forced to accept a unit of Confederate prisoners who have volunteered to fight Indians under Union command as an alternative to rotting in POW camps.
*Cast:* Joseph Cotten, Linda Darnell, Jeff Chandler, Cornel Wilde
*Director:* Robert Wise
1950
7:35 am EST, 4:35 AM PST:
SIEGE AT RED RIVER
A Confederate soldier enlists the North's help in order to retrieve a shipment of Gatling guns.
*Cast:* Van Johnson, Joanne Dru, Richard Boone, Milburn Stone
*Director:* Rudolph Mate
1954
9:05 am EST, 6:05 AM PST:
VIVA ZAPATA
A biographical account of Emiliano Zapata, the Mexican peasant who became president after rallying his people against a dictator.
*Cast:* Marlon Brando, Jean Peters, Anthony Quinn, Joseph Wiseman
*Director:* Elia Kazan
1952
11:00 am EST, 8 AM PST:
WHITE FEATHER
A western about the settlement of Wyoming in 1877 and a government agent (Wagner) who tries to convince a group of Native-Americans to relocate to a reservation.
*Cast:* Robert Wagner, Debra Paget, Jeffrey Hunter, John Lund, Eduard Franz
*Director:* Robert D. Webb
1955
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*Yeah, I've always liked Colbert. But that doesn't stop me from having fun wondering what she would look like if she exchanged eyebrows with Joan Crawford. Or Groucho,*
Just one word..."Why?"
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*..and for some supporting players who may not have enough films to fill out a whole 24 hours (Ernest Thesiger? Phyllis Povah? Patricia Collinge? Laird Cregar? Mary Boland?)*
Only Povah and Collinge would not have enough credits. Not counting their silents, both Thesiger and Boland had over 40 film credits each....no problem there for SUTS OR SOTM. Cregar had 16, barely enough for a whole month, but easily can be a SUTS honoree.
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*I turned on THE RISE AND FALL OF SUSAN LENOX in the lobby of my gym today. People were gaping at the screen like Martians had invaded. Nobody seemed to have the slightest idea who Gable or Garbo were.*
It probably was a good thing that you weren't at the gym earlier, when they were showing some Garbo movies before she talked LOL. Just out of curiosity, were you able to keep the channel there, and if so, did the people continue to watch?
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*The Chinga-Chonga??*
Close....It's The Chica-Choca I believe.
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*The original working title was THE KNIGHT AND THE LADY. She didn't like that, because it mentions his character first.*
*Since she prevailed with the title and with the slap, she proved that she was the boss on the set in more ways than one.*
I guess we missed each other with our posts. The original title was going to be "Elizabeth the Queen", but he had to have a reference in the title, so "The Knight and the Lady" was the first of the provisional replacements. She would have truly prevailed if it had remained "Elizabeth the Queen". And she didn't really prevail with the slap, as per the quotes from his autobiography, because she (apparently) dared not repeat it.
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There was no justification for Davis to have slapped Flynn in such an unprofessional manner. Bette WAS upset that WB cast Errol in this film, for a number of reasons. First of all, she had implored the studio to hire Olivier for the role; the studio would hear none of it, especially since they had Flynn perfectly suited for their costume epics. Secondly, Flynn's contract called for his character's name to be in the title, so Bette was less than happy that it was changed from"Elizabeth the Queen" to TPLOE&E. Further, she thought that his was a lesser talent, had not been happy with him in the previous year's THE SISTERS, and she felt that all he brought to his role was his looks and his looking dashing in the costumes of the day.
None of this justifies the slap; she was wrong and should have admitted it and apologized. That the studio didn't castigate her for it does show her power as the top feminine star at the studio, but Flynn was up there with her as one of the biggest stars in Hollywood. So I don't think her power was any greater than his at this time with the studio bosses; she was most certainly not "the boss".
I've posted here before that many years later, Davis wrote (or was quoted) as having again seen TPLOE&E, and realized that Flynn had been perfect for the part, and at that time stated that she had been wrong about him all along.
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I think Marie Windsor is with Cecil of "Cecil and Beanie-Boy" fame....a kid's show when I was a kid.
Question about THE CASTILIAN
in General Discussions
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Also known as VALLE DE LAS ESPADAS (or something similar), this movie has a phanton credit. Linda Darnell is listed in some filmographies of hers as having been in this movie. I don't know where this originated, and I have never actually read it mentioned in any biograhy or biogaphical sketch. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks in advance.