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Linda Darnell, born in October 1923, died in April 1965, when she was 41 years old. She died in a house fire, after going back and trying to rescue an occupant she felt was still inside. Earlier that evening, she had been watching one of her early starring roles in STAR DUST (1940), loosely based on her arrival in Hollywood. Ironically, she had a lifelong fear of fire, having close calls or actually having been slightly burned on the sets of HANGOVER SQUARE (1945), ANNA AND THE KING OF SIAM (1946), and FOREVER AMBER (1947). She aslo had a close call when her car caught fire while on the way to the studio during the filming of NO WAY OUT (1950).
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I see Bacall as a perfectly adequate choice for SOTM, my only reservation being that she has already been honored thus, especially when there are so many stars out there who have yet to be SOTM, and whose filmography does not have to be padded with more than one documentary/TCM interview to fill the schedule.
On another note, I thoroughly enjoy all of last night's movies (well I've seen them each many times, and I didn't see THAHN cuz I was still on my way home, or TBS due to watching Clinton's speech at the DNC). But I agree with all here that like DARK PASSAGE: An enjoyable, albeit credulity-straining melodrama (which 40s melodrama doesn't strain belief!?), with great location shooting in San Francisco, wrapped up with many memorable performances. Btw, I remember reading that Clifton Webb was considered for a role (methinks that of the late night doctor). If not yet a star (that would come in 1948), he was already well-known and acclaimed for his strong (and oscar-nominated) supporting roles in LAURA and THE RAZOR'S EDGE. So, I wonder if he was indeed scheduled for the doctor, was the part originally much larger, or was the idea that "he's just a character actor, so let's give him any part, no matter the size, because that's what we do with these actors". Just musing here....
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Well I can think of one definite example where religion got in the way of not only a star's career, but of her life. Jean Harlow and her "Mama" were both Christian Scientists (I think that is the one), and when she collapsed on the set of 1937's SARATOGA, she was recuperating at home. Her mother fimrly believed that she should not get any medical treatment, as per the precepts of their faith. This lack of treatment is what did poor Jean in.
*Was Loretta Young's career hampered because she was a Catholic and could not 'fit' certain roles?*
Loretta, to my knowledge, never turned down a role because it conflicted with some of the tenets of Catholicism. But what might have happened was that, with her infamous swearbox ever-present on her sets, she might have alienated certain directors or producers, who might not have considered her later for another role. We'll never know ....
*Did Elizabeth Taylor have to downplay her Judaism in order to be sold as sexy CLEOPATRA?*
As in probably all her portrayals, Liz' Judaism is downplayed to the point of non-existence. I have never thought of her as such while viewing one of her roles, including CLEAOPATRA.
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A fair to great lineup of movies with the mental health theme. Most of the dramas are quite harrowing, and all feature strong performances overall. Too bed I couldn't've left my other personality at home to watch TCM while I went to work, or better yet, have him go to work and I stay to watch TCM.
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FROM THE FOX MOVIE CHANNEL WEBSITE:
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 6:
4:45 am EST, 1:45 AM PST:
TONIGHT WE RAID CALAIS
British Intellengence dispatches Commando Geoffrey Carter on a one-man raid to destroy a munitions plant that manufactures bombs in Nazi-occupied France.
*Cast:* Annabella, John Sutton, Lee j. Cobb
*Director:* John Brahm
1943
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
MR. 880
Based on a true story, a federal agent (Burt Lancaster) searches for a kindly old counterfeiter (Edmund Gwenn) who makes money in order to support himself.
*Cast:* Edmund Gwenn, Dorothy Mcguire, Burt Lancaster
*Director:* Edmund Goulding
1950
7:45 am EST, 4:45 AM PST:
WHERE THE SIDEWALK ENDS
Otto Preminger's moody film noir story of a detective (Dana Andrews) with a strong hatred for criminals who accidentally kills a suspect and must confront his conscience when an innocent man is accused of the crime. Oleg Cassini (costume designer) cameo.
*Cast:* Gene Tierney, Dana Andrews, Gary Merrill, Tom Tully, Bert Freed
*Director:* Otto Preminger
1950
9:30 am EST, 6:30 AM PST:
SOLDIER OF FORTUNE
An American adventurer (Clark Gable) is hired by a woman (Susan Hayward) to locate and rescue her husband (Gene Barry) in Red China. Much of the movie was filmed in Hong Kong and vicinity.
*Cast:* Clark Gable, Susan Hayward, Tom Tully, Gene Barry, Michael Rennie
*Director:* Edward Dmytryk
1955
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 7:
4:45 am EST, 1:45 AM PST:
DRESSED TO KILL
Detective Michael Shane (Nolan) stumbles across a bizarre string of murders tied to a theater production with all of the victims found dressed in costume.
*Cast:* Sheila Ryan, Lloyd Nolan, Mary beth Hughes, William Demarest, Ben Carter
*Director:* Eugene Forde
1941
6:00 AM EST, 3 AM PST:
THE CALL OF THE WILD
A loose adaptation of Jack London's Yukon adventure involving two con men, a woman, and a dog named Buck. Clark Gable is a tough guy looking for a gold mine who shows a gentle side as he crosses paths with Loretta Young and saves a sled dog.
*Cast:* Loretta Young, Clark Gable, Jack Oakie, Reginald Owen, Frank Conroy, Katherine Demille, Sidney Toler
*Director:* William Wellman
1935
7:30 am EST, 4:30 AM PST:
THUNDERHEAD, SON OF FLICKA
In this sequel to My Friend Flicka, another wild horse is trained by Ken (Roddy McDowall), the son of a horse rancher.
*Cast:* Roddy Mcdowall, Preston Foster, James Bell, Rita Johnson, Diana Hale
*Director:* Louis King
1945
9:00 am EST, 6 AM PST:
FOX LEGACY: HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY
Tom Rothman, Chairman and CEO of Fox Filmed Entertainment, introduces landmark 20th Century Fox films and provides insight about how these notable films were created.
*Cast:* Tom Rothman, Roddy Mcdowall, Donald Crisp, Walter Pidgeon, Anna Le
*Director:* John Ford
1990/1941
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HBO Signature:
Tuesday, September 4:
3:10 AM:
ROXIE HART (1942):
Ginger Rogers, George Montgomery and Adolph Menjou in the first movie remake of that risqu? 1920s stage satire of sensationalistic journalism, "Chicago". Enjoyable even without the songs.
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 5:
3:05 AM:
TITANIC (1953):
Clifton Webb, Barbara Stanwyck, Robert Wagner and Thelma Ritter head a cast featured in intertwining stories on the eve of the famous nautical disaster.
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*If you want to "program" an entire August, go right ahead -- but for that, let's establish the ground rule that you can't use a star who's been honored the past two years.*
A suggestion; since there are many worthy stars NEVER honored, let's keep out as many repeats as possible...I'd make it nobody featured in the past four years, and nobody that has been featured two or more times.
*Clara Bow or Colleen Moore (whichever one has 24 hours' worth of surviving film)*
Assuming there are enough surviving movies, why not both; gie viewers a chance of seeing two distinct flapper types. And as long as early Paramounts are available (so that Bow is a possibility), forget Lombard and Colbert for now, and let's get the more worthy (insofar as never being honored) Nancy Carroll and Sylvia Sidney, although SS may have been on SUTS.
And now that 20th Century Fox movies are more available, with Marilyn Monroe and Tyrone Power this year, and Linda Darnell and Gene Tierney each featured in the previous two years respectively, let's get some of the others that filmed mostly for that company, including: Warner Baxter, Janet Gaynor, Don Ameche, Alice Faye, Richard Greene, Anne Baxter, John Payne, Betty Grable, Jeanne Crain, June Haver, George Montgomery, Cornel Wilde, Dana Andrews, Clifton Webb, Richard Widmark, Richard Conte, Jean Peters, Debra Paget, Paul Douglas. Celeste Holm, Thelma Ritter, Mitzi Gaynor, etc....
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*Has anyone heard of the young-Gable scandal. Loretta Young had Clark Gable's child. If I remember right , Gable was married at the time and Young had to give up the child.*
Well, she didn't give it up, at least not for long. Shortly after the finishing of CALL OF THE WILD, which she made with Gable in 1935, she went to Europe to "recover' from some unnamed "illness'. Several movies meant for her had to be reassigned, cancelled or postponed. She returned in early-mid1936, nearly one year after being gone. Approximately one year later, she announced to the press that she had found two young girls in an orphanage and had decided to adopt them. One was supposedly sent back after a short while, but tongues wagged to no end when Judy, the one Loretta kept, had Gable;s ears. Of course, a divorced Loretta could not have disclosed an out of wedlock child without throwing away her career.
Judy learnt the truth of her father when she was a young adult. Much later, in the early 90s, sh wrote a book about her story "Uncommon Knowledge", confirming that this was true. I believe Loretta never spoke about this in public.
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*While this is going on Rita Hayworth comes in and offers a $1000 dollars to anyone willing to help her get her husband out of a mine cave in. Since the steamship is out of commison for weeks they go.*
This is Susan Hayward, not Rita Hayworth. Incidentally, Susan had another role the following year where she again hires someone to help her find her husband...Its in contemporary China though, and Clark Gable is the titular SOLDIER OF FORTUNE.
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*While this is going on Rita Hayworth comes in and offers a $1000 dollars to anyone willing to help her get her husband out of a mine cave in. Since the steamship is out of commison for weeks they go.*
This is Susan Hayward, not Rita Hayworth. Incidentally, Susan had another role the following year where she again hires someone to help her find her husband...Its in contemporary China though, and Clark Gable is the titular SOLDIER OF FORTUNE.
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*even MARY WICKES would seem alluring.*
Come on now...ARe You kidding?!? Mary Wickes is a far cry from Susan Hayward in the sexiness meter. Susan's intensity may put some men off, but she was very attractive and always had a nice body, although the young Rita Moreno was much more up my alley. Mary Wickes had a nose, no chin and humor....
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From the FMC Website:
THURSDAY, AUGUST 30:
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
IT HAPPENED IN FLATBUSH
A blacklisted player becomes a baseball team manager.
*Cast:* Jane Darwell, Carole Landis, Lloyd Nolan, William Frawley, Sara Allgood
*Director:* Ray Mccarey
1942
7:30 am EST, 4:30 AM PST:
FOLLOW THE SUN
Golf champion Ben Hogan (Ford) fights to walk again after an accident.
*Cast:* Anne Baxter, Glenn Ford, Larry Keating, Sam Snead
*Director:* Sidney Lanfield
1951
9:15 am EST, 6:15 AM PST:
THE PRIDE OF ST. LOUIS
A biography of Hall of Fame pitcher, Dizzy Dean (Dailey).
*Cast:* Dan Dailey, Richard Crenna, James Brown, Joanne Dru, Hugh Sanders
*Director:* Harmon Jones
1952
FRIDAY, AUGUST 31:
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
THE BLUE BIRD
Two children journey to find the mythical bluebird of happiness.
*Cast:* Shirley Temple, Spring Byington, Nigel Bruce, Eddie Collins, Gale Sondergaard
*Director:* Walter Lang
1940
7:30 am EST, 4:30 AM PST:
ON THE SUNNY SIDE
Because of the war, a 12-year-old boy from England, Hugh, is sent to live with the Andrews family in Ohio. Don, the Andrews' 11-year-old son, eagerly accepts the English boy, and is happy when his school-friends do the same.
*Cast:* Roddy Mcdowall, Stanley Clements, Katharine Alexande
*Director:* Harold Schuster
1942
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 1:
11:00 am EST, 8 AM PST:
KISS THEM FOR ME
While on leave in San Francisco, three decorated World War II naval officers (Cary Grant, Leif Erickson, Ray Walston) rent a suite at the Mark Hopkins hotel and throw a wild party.
*Cast:* Cary Grant, Jayne Mansfield, Leif Erickson, Suzy Parker, Ray Walston, Werner Klemperer
*Director:* Stanley Donen
1942
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 3:
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
NIGHT TRAIN TO PARIS
A retired O.S.S. agent agrees to help out on one last mission: helping a fellow female agent deliver some important tapes to a secret Paris location.
*Cast:* Leslie Nielsen, Billie Neal, Jacques Cey, Neal Arden
*Director:* Robert Douglas
1964
7:10 am EST, 4:10 AM PSTl
TO THE SHORES OF TRIPOLI
This patriotic film follows a cocky man (John Payne) who learns a lesson in discipline from a tough sergeant (Randolph Scott) and a lesson in love from an army nurse (Maureen O'Hara).
*Cast:* Randolph Scott, William Tracy, John Payne, Nancy Kelly
*Director:* H. Bruce Humberstone
1942
8:40 am EST, 5:40 AM PST:
RALLY 'ROUND THE FLAG, BOYS!
Social comedy about the women of a small town called Putnam's Landing and the ruckus they cause while trying to stop a missle base from being installed.
*Cast:* Paul Newman, Joan Collins, Jack Carson, Dwayne Hickman, Joanne Woodward
*Director:* Leo Mccarey
1958
10:30 am EST, 7:30 AM PST:
THE CAPE TOWN AFFAIR
James Brolin is a pickpocket who snags a purse containing top secret microfilm in Cape Town, South Africa. Jacqueline Bisset helps uncover the Communist spy ring who is also trying to capture the elusive envelope.
*Cast:* Claire Trevor, James Brolin, Jacqueline Bisset, Bob Courtney
*Director:* Robert D. Webb
1967
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 4:
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
THE GHOST AND MRS. MUIR
A widow (Gene Tierney) refuses to be frightened from her seaside home by the ghost of a sea captain (Rex Harrison), with whom she falls in love.
*Cast:* Gene Tierney, Rex Harrison, George Sanders, Natalie Wood, Edna Best
*Director:* Joseph L. Mankiewicz
1947
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 5:
3:00 am EST, 6 AM PST:
THE LONGEST DAY
The Allied Invasion of Europe on June 6, 1944, is retold with an all-star cast.
*Cast:* Sean Connery, Robert Wagner, Robert Ryan, John Wayne, Henry Fonda, Rod Steiger, Richard Burton, Stuart Whitman, Robert Mitchum, Eddie Albert, Richard Beymer, Paul Anka, Tommy Sands, Curt Jurgens, Mel Ferrer, Alexander Knox, Fabian, Gert Frobe, Sal Mineo, Red Buttons, Steve Forrest, Peter Lawford, Jeffrey Hunter, Roddy Mcdowall
*Director:* Andrew Marton
1962
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A friend of mine who had cable (don't know which service) had this same thing happen when he would try to transfer something he had dvr'ed from FMC. I don't have DVR, and I have Directv, so everything I record on to my DVD recorder is on real time, and no problems with this copyright protected stuff.
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Well, least we forget Clifton here, folks.
Uh huh...suuuuure. If YOU can't have Laura here, then NOBODY can, eh Clifton?!

(...yeah, I believe THAT, "alright"!) LOL
Dargo:
This still is not from LAURA, it's from THE RAZOR'S EDGE. He is Tierney's uncle here, not ostensible lover.
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HBO SIGNATURE:
THURSDAY, AUGUST 30:
1:00 AM:
O'HENRY'S FULL HOUSE (1952): All star omnibus film made up of several O'Henry short stories. Each story done by a different director,
4:40 AM:
DEADLINE USA (1952): drama with Humphrey Bogart as a newspaper editor and Etherl Barrymore as the paper's owner being pressured to kill that investigative story. With Kim Hunter as Bogie's wife.
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From the FMC Website:
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 29:
4:45 am EST, 1:45 AM PST:
JUST OFF BROADWAY
Michael Shayne, a private detective serving jury duty on a murder trial, suddenly becomes embroiled in the case when a witness is killed in the middle of the courtroom.
Cast: Lloyd Nolan, Marjorie Weaver, Phil Silvers, Janis Carter
Director: Herbert I. Leeds
1942
6:00 am EST, 3 AAM PST:
LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN
A jealous woman (Gene Tierney) will stop at nothing to keep the man (Cornel Wilde) she loves.
Cast: Gene Tierney, Cornel Wilde, Vincent Price, Mary Philips, Jeanne Crain
Director: John M. Stahl
1945
8:00 am EST, 5 AM PST:
NIGHTMARE ALLEY
Tyrone Power is excellent in a change-of-pace role as a carnival con man who masters a mind-reading act and teams up with an unethical psychiatrist to scam wealthy clients in this part-film noir, part-gothic thriller.
Cast: Tyrone Power, Joan Blondell, Coleen Gray, Helen Walker, Taylor Holmes, Mike Mazurki, Ian Keith, George Jessel
Director: Edmund Goulding
1947
Edited by: Arturo on Aug 29, 2012 1:51 AM
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From the FMC Website:
4:45 am EST, 1:45 AM PST:
JUST OFF BROADWAY
Michael Shayne, a private detective serving jury duty on a murder trial, suddenly becomes embroiled in the case when a witness is killed in the middle of the courtroom.
Cast: Lloyd Nolan, Marjorie Weaver, Phil Silvers, Janis Carter
Director: Herbert I. Leeds
1942
6:00 am EST, 3 AAM PST:
LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN
A jealous woman (Gene Tierney) will stop at nothing to keep the man (Cornel Wilde) she loves.
Cast: Gene Tierney, Cornel Wilde, Vincent Price, Mary Philips, Jeanne Crain
Director: John M. Stahl
1945
8:00 am EST, 5 AM PST:
NIGHTMARE ALLEY
Tyrone Power is excellent in a change-of-pace role as a carnival con man who masters a mind-reading act and teams up with an unethical psychiatrist to scam wealthy clients in this part-film noir, part-gothic thriller.
Cast: Tyrone Power, Joan Blondell, Coleen Gray, Helen Walker, Taylor Holmes, Mike Mazurki, Ian Keith, George Jessel
Director: Edmund Goulding
1947
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Just about the sexiest woman on the screen EVER...imho. But we haven't heard from the women here yet....many don't seem to get Ava's allure.
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TikiSoo answered:
> OH, and more thing...I'll never understand what all the hub-bub was about for Betty Grable, either
*I for one think she had a terrible figure-what a flat butt in that famous WW2 pin up photo. Sure, she was perky pretty, and I suppose glamorous (in Imitation of Life/Bad & Beautiful) but she just doesn't do anything special for me.*
Ok now Tiki, you are confusing Betty Grable with Lana Turner, who starred in *Imitation of Life (1959)/Bad & Beautiful.* Betty Grable I have never thought as a great beauty, but she had a nice trim figure and great legs. She was VERY pretty as a starlet in the late 30s, and into her earliest starring vehicles at Fox in the very early 40s. Then she looks less appealing....don't know exactly what but its a more brassy makeup and persona, and coincides with her ascent to top boxoffice star and number one ****. She was considered a girl-next door type, and this was a large part of her appeal, so she was never in the running for most beautiful or glamourous...that wasn't her image.
Lana Turner on the other hand, was BEAUTIFUL and GLAMOROUS. She had a very sexy body, full bosoms and very nice legs, and was considered more of a femme fatale than girl next door. Her altogether more alluring image than Betty Grable contrasted well that of her **** rival, although it is interesting to note they dated many of the same men in the 40s. Lana remained glamorous for the rest of her career, and was every inch the "movie star" when seen in public. Betty prefered going to the racing track to bet than to be seen all dolled up.
Incidentally, I have always enjoyed this movie, and actually, and chronologically more accurately, Tom Cruise's TOP GUN persona reminds me of Ty Power's character in AYITRAF.
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*He comes across to me as very transgender in various scenes of his films, especially the earlier pictures.*
Excuse my ignorance re: these terms, but my understanding is that a transgender person is one who is uncomfortable with the body they were born with, and identify more as a member of the opposite sex. I don't presume to know what you meant, but it seems the term you meant is androgynous. Unless you feel that Power is really uncomfortable with being a man in some of his other films, then transgender doesn't fit....unless I have my terms wrong.
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*As for STRANGERS ON A TRAIN, I don't think she was mishandled by Hitchcock at all. The next thing you will be saying is that he mishandles Jane Wyman in favor of the blonde Dietrich in STAGE FRIGHT, or that Anne Baxter is miscast in I CONFESS because she is a brunette. Roman, Wyman and Baxter are just as vital carrying out their assignments with Hitchcock as Grace Kelly is.*
Nothing personal here, but I must point this out...Anne Baxter was in the midst of her Blonde phase when she did I CONFESS...seems to me from about 1952-53 (other films she made around this time with her as a blonde include MY WIFE'S BEST FRIEND and THE BLUE GARDENIA). Seems to me I recall reading that she had dyed her hair blonde in the hopes of getting the Lorelei Lee part in GENTLEMEN PREFER BLONDES. Anyway, by 1955 she was into her sexy hotcha redhaired look.
btw, Hitchcock did not want Baxter for I CONFESS, hoping instead to get Anita Bjork. But the studio (WB again if I remember correctly) foisted Anne on Alfred.
Edited by: Arturo on Aug 27, 2012 8:38 PM
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MOREMAX, MONDAY, AUGUST 27, 1:40 AM:
THE KEYS OF THE KINGDOM (1944): Gregory Peck as a missionary priest in war-torn China, with Rosa Stradner as a stern nun he spars with.
HBO Signature, TUESDAY 3:50 AM
THE LONG HOT SUMMER (1958): Steamy goings-on in the deep South, with Paul Newman, Joanne Woodward, Burl Ives. Anthony Franciosa. MAY BE IN PAN AND SCAN.
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*This thread goes back to the ideas that I have been trying to push us away from, that she was a one-trick pony who only made one good film with a famous director. Not true!*
I totally agree. She was a vital presence in any number of movies in the late 40s and 50s. For her to be known basically for her role in the Hitchcock film is why I totally dislike the auteur theory. Only a role in film by an anointed director seems to merit attention, and a prolific career spannng decades is ignored, or at best, a footnote. Pathetic that we treat many acting personalities this way.
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Willbefree wrote:
*That's an easy one. She wasn't an icy blonde with big hoo-hah's and thus wasn't in the pervert Hitch's, um, dreams.*
WBF:
Well she might not have been an icy blonde, but check the second picture below and you'll see that she had, big, er . . .
If I remember correctly, she looked very delectable in the party scene of SOAT, where she is wearing a strapless gown.

Sexual identity in classic films
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Can't remember which at the moment, but there is a 20th-Century Fox musical from 1944 or thereabouts (they tend to blend in together in my mind), where there is a nightclub scene and all the "showgirls" in a musical number are big beefy guys in drag. It's really quite unsettling. I think it's IRISH EYES ARE SMILING (June Haver's first starring role), but it may be one featuring Vivian Blaine. Will have to look for my old VHS collection this weekend to see if I find it.