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I was elated that I had finally recorded it, then sad when it cut off after 40 minutes or so. Well, that'll have to do until the next time TCM shows it.
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Sepiatone wrote:
My wife is of Mexican heritage, and never fully understood the "holiday" either. Celebrating the victory in one battle in a war that was ultimately lost. Sort of like the Japanese celebrating "Bataan Day".
Sepiatone:
Well, actually the war was utimately WON; the French were driven out in 1867. But it is true that after La Batalla de Puebla, they did occupy the country for five years. The significance of the one battle is that it was won, against all odds, by defenders of a country rich in natural and human resources, but which has been weak militarily as its leaders fought for themselves, not the greater good. Mexico has been invaded repeatedly by outside forces: the Spanish, British, French and Americans. So the win has come to resonate outsized to its actual accomplishment, as the will of a people, much trampled on, to maintain its sovereignty.
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{font:Times New Roman}MovieProfessor wrote:{font}
{font:Times New Roman}Grace Metalious had in fact, created an original, American phenomenon that continues to this day, having influence several generations and still has a fascinating affect upon our culture. If anything, Grace Metalious put “small town America” on the map, as a force to be reckoned with!{font}
{font:Times New Roman}MovieProfessorL{font}
{font:Times New Roman}Not only Sinclair Lewis, whose "Babbitt" set the template for this type of small-town exposé, but in purely movie terms, the movie version of KING'S ROW was an obvious precedent to PEYTON PLACE, both book and movie. And in 1948s SITTING PRETTY, Clfton Webb's character writes such a tome, "Hunningbird Hill". {font}
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Swithin wrote;
The good news for me is that *Kidnapped* (1938) will be shown on Freddie Bartholomew day (August 18). I love that version of the film and haven't seen it in yonks!
Swithin, I too enjoy this version. But since it was on a number of times on FMC in the last year or two, I'm even more excited about another of Freddie's Fox titles, PROFESSIONAL SOLDIER. And then there's LLOYD'S OF LONDON, the film that skyrocketed Tyrone Power to stardom (Freddie has top billing but a small role as Ty as a boy).
Edited by: Arturo on May 6, 2012 2:39 AM
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I have a combo DVD/VCR recorder...in the two or so years I've owned it I have recorded about 2,500 classic movies. Prior to this I recorded thousands of movies on VHS, from TCM, FMC, the old AMC, Channel Z, etc. Early on I recorded on the EP mode; in the last ten years or so, only on SP mode. Unfortunately, many movies shown on say, the old AMC, have not been shown in years. So I don't get rid of my VHS copies. Sometimes I buy DVD-Rs from Ioffer, Ebay, etc. These are movies I've never seen elsewhere. Since I've heard that DVD-Rs deteriorate after a few viewings (dont''t really know if this is true), I dub them immediately to VHS, where I can view them frequently if I like without fear of that happening.
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CasaCinema wote:
I happen to be Mexican-American and maybe because of our rich and very present Mexican heritage and maybe because we live within spitting distance of the Rio Grande and Mexico, everyone around here knows Cinco de Mayo is about the Battle of Puebla.
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Which is why some people I know call it Cinco de Drinko . . . . !!!???!!!
CasaCinema,
Your second statement seems to contradict the first one; it does not show "...everyone around here knows Cinco de Mayo is about the Battle of Puebla", or that "rich or very present Mexican heritage".
I too am Mexican, and I don't think that propagating the misconception of the holiday as just a time for all to get drunk is very illuminating or informative. It is the commemoration of a significant battle on that day, as mentioned here, in the city of Puebla, then Mexico's second largest city and on the road from the seaport of Veracruz to the capital. Despite the win, much of beautiful Baroque colonial Puebla suffered major damage, and the French did take over the country for approximately 5 years. Every year it is a big deal in this city (it happened 150 years ago today), and elsewhere people get the day off, and is about as meaningful as our President's Day.
The reason it's a big deal here in the Southwest is that it came near the end of the traditional school year. Schools wanting to celebrate the Mexican heritage of students were able to prepare a cultural program, whereas Mexican Independence Day came in mid September, just as the school year was beginning. Additionally, it was easy to preempt the existing Mayday celebrations.
Beer companies were quick to tap into this day as a time to party and embibe their products. And with the spread of Mexican immigrants away from the Southwest to many other states, it has come to become more widespread.
So while the day makesw a great excuse for Mexicans and non-Mexicans to drink and party, those of us that know the significance of the day may want to share this to make it more meaningful than just a future hangover.
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What I find interesting is that the FMC website lists NO cast information or credits. Maybe this evening when I get home, I can look in my book "The Films of Twentieth Century Fox" and post the pertinents here.
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THE LOST MOMENT, a moody 1947 film starring Susan Hayward, takes place in Venice, Italy.
THE WITCH (1966?), an Italian co-production starring Rossana Schaffino, and based on Carlos Fuentes' novel "Aura", takes place in Venice as well (if I remember correctly), as opposed to the Mexico City locale of the book.
Two better known Italian movies:
TWO WOMEN
MAMA ROMA
Edited by: Arturo on May 3, 2012 7:21 PM
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h5. FROM THE FOX MOVIE CHANNEL WEBSITE:
SUNDAY MAY 6:
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST
h5. HUDSON'S BAY
Adventurous trapper and explorer Pierre Radison (Paul Muni) leads a British expedition into the Canadian frontier.
*Cast:* Gene Tierney, Paul Muni, Laird Cregar, John Sutton, Vincent Price
*Director:* Irving Pichel
h5. 1940

7:40 am EST, 4:40 AM PST
LEGIONS OF THE NILE \\\\\*Cast:*
1960

9:15 am EST, 6:15 AM PST
PRINCE OF FOXES \\Filmed entirely on location in Italy, this Renaissance epic finds Tyrone Power as a good will ambassador at odds with his scheming land baron employer (Orson Welles). \\\*Cast:* Tyrone Power, Orson Welles, Eduardo Ciannelli, Wanda Hendrix, Marina Berti, Everett Sloane, Katina Paxinou, Felix Aylmer \\\*Director:* Henry King
1949 \
\MONDAY MAY 7:
4:34 (!) am EST, 1:34 AM PST
LOVE NEST \\A returning veteran (William Lundigan) and his wife (June Haver) buy an apartment building and complications result from the tenants including a voluptuous young woman (Marilyn Monroe) and a sneaky con man (Frank Fay). \\\*Cast:* Marilyn Monroe, June Haver, William Lundigan, Frank Fay, Jack Parr \\\*Director:* Joseph Newman
1951
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6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST
THREE CAME HOME \\Producer Nunnally Johnson's adaptation of Agnes Newton Keith's autobiographical story of a woman (Claudette Colbert) who is interred in a Japanese war camp and her relationship of mutual respect with the commandant (Sessue Hayakawa). \\\*Cast:* Claudette Colbert, Patrick Knowles, Florence Desmond, Sessue Hayakawa \\\*Director:* Jean Negulesco \\1950 \\
TUESDAY MAY 8: \\A MICHAEL SHAYNE MYSTERY AND 3 CLASSIC NOIRS!
* 6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST: \ \ MAN WHO WOULDN'T DIE, THE \\Detective Michael Shayne (Nolan) poses as the husband of millionaire's daughter (Weaver) to smoke out the man who is trying to kill them. \\\*Cast:* Henry Wilcoxon, Helene Reynolds, Lloyd Nolan, Marjorie Weaver \\\*Director:* Herbert I. Leeds
* 1942
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7:15 am EST, 4:15 PST:
FALLEN ANGEL \\A small town is shocked by the murder of a waitress (Linda Darnell), and the prime suspect is the gold-digging press agent (Dana Andrews) of a high society heiress (Alice Faye). 1940's Otto Preminger film noir gem. \\\*Cast:* Alice Faye, Dana Andrews, Charles Bickford, John Carradine, Linda Darnell, David Raksin \\\*Director:* Otto Preminger
* 1945

9:00 am EST, 6 AM PST:
KISS OF DEATH \\A small-time crook who turns state's evidence (Victor Mature) is tormented by a psychopathic accomplice (Richard Widmark) in this powerful film noir shot entirely in New York City. Notable as Widmark's film debut and Best Supporting Actor nomination. \\\*Cast:* Richard Widmark, Victor Mature, Brian Donlevy, Coleen Gray, Karl Malden, Mildred Dunnock, Millard Mitchell, Taylor Holmes \\\*Director:* Henry Hathaway
1947
11:00 am EST, 8 AM PST
NIGHTMARE ALLEY \\Tyrone Power is excellent in a change-of-pace role as a carnival con man who masters a mind-reading act and teams up with an unethical psychiatrist to scam wealthy clients in this part-film noir, part-gothic thriller. \\\*Cast:* Tyrone Power, Joan Blondell, Coleen Gray, Helen Walker, Taylor Holmes, Mike Mazurki, Ian Keith, George Jessel \\\*Director:* Edmund Goulding
* 1947
Edited by: Arturo on May 3, 2012 7:06 PM
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How do you get Fox Movie Channel on Demand? First I've ever heard about it. What else is available?
I have DAYTIME WIFE on DVD (think it's part of the "Tyrone Power Matinee Idol" boxset). This was Linda's second movie, filmed while she was still all of 15 years old. Although for plot's sake, she was supposed to be about 20 years old. An enjoyable late screwball, it was intended to re-team Power with Loretta Young, but Loretta had just left the studio, refusing to sign a lucrative renewal contract.
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From the FMC website:
Saturday, May 5:
h5. 6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST
ANNE OF THE INDIES
A colorful, action-packed pirate adventure that tells the story of a girl (Jean Peters) who becomes a feared captain of the Spanish Main and a French officer (Louis Jourdan) who sets out to trap her.
*Cast:* Jean Peters, Louis Jourdan
*Director:* Jacques Tourneur
h5. 1951

* h5. 7:30 am EST, 4:30 AM PST
* h5. SON OF FURY \ \ An 18th-century Englishman (Tyrone Power) is deprived of his inheritance, flees to a South Sea island, but returns to seek restitution. \ \ \ *Cast:* Tyrone Power, George Sanders, Roddy Mcdowall, Gene Tierney, Elsa Lanchester, Frances Farmer \ \ \ *Director:* John Cromwell
* h5. 1942

* h5. 9:10 am EST, 6:10 AM PST
* h5. A ROYAL SCANDAL \ \ Russia�s Catherine the Great falls in love with a handsome young army officer who is really a revolutionary plotting her downfall. \ \ \ *Cast:* Anne Baxter, Charles Coburn, William Eythe, Vincent Price, Tallulah Bankhead \ \ \ *Director:* Otto Preminger
* h5. 1945

* h5. 11:00 am EST, 8 AM PST
* h5. THE MUDLARK \ \ Offbeat drama of reclusive Queen Victoria (Irene Dunne and her encounter with a "mudlark" (Andrew Ray), an English steet child who breaks into Windsor Castle just to catch a glimpse of her. \ \ \ *Cast:* Irene Dunne, Alec Guinness, Beatrice Campbell, Finlay Currie, Andrew Ray \ \ \ *Director:* Jean Negulesco
* h5. 1950

* h5. 1:00 pm EST, 10 AM EST
* h5. AFFAIR TO REMEMBER, AN \ \ A man and a woman (Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr) fall in love on an ocean voyage, part, and agree to meet six months later atop the Empire State Building in this haunting romance. Used years later, as a clever plot line in "Sleepless In Seattle". \ \ \ *Cast:* Cary Grant, Deborah Kerr, Richard Denning, Neva Patterson, Cathleen Nesbitt, Fortunio Bonanova, Hugo Friedhofer, Harry Warren \ \ \ *Director:* Leo Mccarey
* 1957
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From the Fox Movie Channel website:
MONDAY APRIL 30:
h5. 4:45 am EST, 1:45 AM PST
JUST OFF BROADWAY
Michael Shayne, a private detective serving jury duty on a murder trial, suddenly becomes embroiled in the case when a witness is killed in the middle of the courtroom.
*Cast:* Lloyd Nolan, Marjorie Weaver, Phil Silvers, Janis Carter
*Director:* Herbert I. Leeds
h5. 1942

* h5. 6:00 am EST, 3:00 AM PST
* h5. GREAT GUNS \ \ Stan and Ollie go to war. \ \ \ *Cast:* Oliver Hardy, Stan Laurel, Sheila Ryan, Dick Nelson, Edmund Macdonald \ \ \ *Director:* Monty Banks
* h5. 1941

* h5. 7:30 am EST, 4:30 AM PST
* h5. STARS AND STRIPES FOREVER \ \ The composer/concert band leader John Phillip Sousa (Webb) leaves the Marine band to form his own organization and writes some of America's most famous marches. \ \ \ *Cast:* Robert Wagner, Clifton Webb, Finlay Currie, Ruth Hussey, Debra Paget \ \ \ *Director:* Henry Koster
* h5. 1952

* h5. 9:00 am EST, 6 AM PST
* h5. I'LL GET BY \ \ A pair of songwriters (Dennis Day & William Lundigan) struggle to get their music heard in this joyful musical romance. A remake of "Tin Pan Alley". \ \ \ *Cast:* Dan Dailey, Jeanne Crain, Steve Allen, Thelma Ritter, Victor Mature, Harry James, June Haver, William Lundigan, Dennis Day \ \ \ *Director:* Richard Sale
* 1950
* TUESDAY MAY 1:
* h5. 6:00 am, EST, 3 AM PST
* h5. FIVE FINGERS \ \ The true story of a loyal valet (Mason) to the British ambassador in Ankara who turns out to be a cunning spy for the Germans in this fast-paced espionage thriller. \ \ \ *Cast:* James Mason, Michael Rennie, Danielle Darrieux, Walter Hampden, Oscar Karlweis \ \ \ *Director:* Joseph L. Mankiewicz
* 1952
* WEDNESDAY MAY 2:
* h5. 6:00 am
* h5. GIRL CAN'T HELP IT, THE \ \ A down-on-his-luck agent (Ewell) is hired to make a singer out of a tone-deaf moll (Mansfield). \ \ \ *Cast:* Tom Ewell, Henry Jones, Jayne Mansfield, Fats Domino, Gene Vincent, Little richard, Julie London \ \ \ *Director:* Frank Tashlin
* 1956
THURSDAY MAY 3:
h5. 4:30 am EST, 1:30 AM PST
BULLFIGHTERS, THE
This Laurel and Hardy laugher has the pair in Mexico as private detectives, sent from the States in search of a female criminal.
*Cast:* Stan Laurel, Oliver Hardy
*Director:* Malcolm St. Clair
h5. 1945

* h5. 7:30 am EST, 4:30 AM PST
* h5. CHINA GIRL \ \ While traveling in Burma, an adventurous cameraman (George Montgomery) falls for a beautiful Chinese girl (Gene Tierney) and they embark on a journey dodging spies. \ \ \ *Cast:* Gene Tierney, George Montgomery, Sig Ruman, Alan Baxter, Lynn Bari, Victor Mclaglen \ \ \ *Director:* Henry Hathaway
* h5. 1942

* h5. 9:20 am EST, 6:20 AM PST
* h5. SOLDIER OF FORTUNE \ \ An American adventurer (Clark Gable) is hired by a woman (Susan Hayward) to locate and rescue her husband (Gene Barry) in Red China. Much of the movie was filmed in Hong Kong and vicinity. \ \ \ *Cast:* Clark Gable, Susan Hayward, Tom Tully, Gene Barry, Michael Rennie \ \ \ *Director:* Edward Dmytryk
* h5. 1955

* h5. 11:00 am EST, 8:00 PST
* h5. BARBARIAN AND THE GEISHA, THE \ \ John Huston's romantic adventure tells the true story of Townsend Harris (Wayne), the first American consul of Japan, and his love affair with a geisha (Ando). \ \ \ *Cast:* John Wayne, Eiko Ando, Sam Jaffe, So Yamamura, Norman Thomson \ \ \ *Director:* John Huston
* 1958
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Kriegerg69 wrote:
I don't think she'd make it today just on her beauty....she was competent, and I enjoy what I've seen of her films, but she'd never last long today because people and the industry want real talent. Garbo would never make it in today's film business. Some of the other actresses mentioned below are not only great beauties, but they have real talent.
Kriegerg69, Garbo in her day was considered THE Movie Actress; it wasn't just her beauty that had audiences and critics enthrallled. Her image of a tragedienne was becoming dated by the 40s, hence MGMs efforts to lighten her film fare, and partially the reason no film projext came to fruition later in the 40s and beyond. As early as the mid-30s, her style was not reaching a mass audience, but she had a more esoteric appeal-MGM had to rely on her still-huge European popularity for her vehicles to turn a profit, another reason for her (supposedly) temporary retirement for the duration of the war.
Garbo, as a great beauty AND a real talent, today would probably have an international career centered on filmmaking in Europe; she probably would not succeed in a Hollywood catering to youngest demographic and lowest common denominator. But I just CANNOT envision Garbo in Color. I'm just happy to have her in her many great roles from the 20s to the early 40s.
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I too feel that I was born at the wrong time. I abhor modern, functional architecture, especially if a warm traditional structure (or several) were torn down to make room. Unfortunately, I live in the city that seems to try to reinvent itself constantly . . . Los Angeles. I caught the tail end of the Bunker Hill neighborhood in downtown LA, now replaced by faceless, generic glass and steel behemoths. To get views of Bunker Hill, I have to rely on old movies, especially of the noir variety. Likewise, I enjoy LA cityscapes where City Hall is the tallest building.
But LA seems hellbent on ridding itself of the first half od the 20th Century (you can guess what happened to the 19th). I remember a late 80s movie, MIRACLE MILE, when the beautiful streamlined moderne façade of the Pan Pacific Auditorium is shown as a backdrop to a rally with signs saying "Save the Pan Pacific". Yes, it had been the center of a controversy attempting to save it. When I saw this movie in its initial release, the Pan Pacific had become a victim of an arsonist that very week. You should have heard the movie patrons groan at the irony of that scene.
Then there's the fight a decade or so back when the Catholic archbishop was intent on tearing down St. Vibiana's Cathedral from the 1860s, which apparently was much too incomveniently located in Skid Row for all the wealthy donors. Cardinal Mahoney's unstoppable obsession to move the cathedral an make it a shining monument to ? was like a real life version of THE BISHOP'S WIFE, and would have been funny if it wasn't so tragic (it may have been fo the edification of Gladys Cooper's late husband). For once the rather toothless LA Conservancy did not relent, and at least the old church building was not torn down (although as no fan of adaptive reuse of old structures that gut out their interiors, and therby rendering them fairly worthless as historical structures, I don't care for the cultural center that inhabits it now). But now we got a BIG new Cathedral, up on the edge of old Bunker Hill, overlooking freeways, the soulless Music Center, the ghastly new campus of the High School for the Performing Arts , and the old County Civic Center monstosities. I remember the beautiful old Hall of Records from the 1880s, the 1930s Art Deco bldg. across the street from the LA Times, and around the corner, the old CalTrans Bldg (I can't even describe its hideous new replacement). And that's just one corner of downtown.
Then there's what;s probably one of LA's most historically significant buildings, the Ambassador Hotel. The place where Hollywood stars won some of the earliest Oscars, and danced the night away for decades at the Coconut Grove nightclub, where Robert Kennedy was assassinated the night he won the California Democratic primary in 1968, got razed a few years ago. After fighting off Donald Trump's plans to turn the site into the tallest building in the world, the LA Unified School District got it by eminent domain, and fought to turn it into a high school. Granted that the densely populated, multi-ethnic neighborhood was in woeful need of relieving the overcrowding in the area schools, there should have been a much more diligent search for a more suitable location. The LA Conservancy gave up fighting them, sold their soul to the devil (and earned my immediate resignation), and backed off, allowing them to tear down the bldg. The trade off was to be that the Coconut Grove would be saved, as well as the façade of the hotel, and some light fixtures. The nightclub is the school auditorium, but the façade is gone. Across the street is a bldg, on the site of one of three Brown Derby restaurants I remember existing (all are gone). A tiny brown derby is on a corner of the roof of the replacement structure (a horrid 80s eyesore), out of sight of most passers-by.
But what can be expected from LA, a city that officially gave grants (loans?) sometime back (at least I hope its a thing of the past) to homeowners to remodel their properties, by stuccoing the exterior. Many an old craftsman and victorian home has lost all sense of intrinsic value with its walls denuded of its original facing, and covered with the inappropriate substitute.
All I can do is enjoy the old cityscapes (or often, open fields) of the LA area in the classic movies. Ever since I was a kid I enjoyed the antics of the Little Rascals, Laurel and Hardy, the Three Stooges, etc. and tried to see which streets and hills in Echo Park, Silver Lake, etc. were featured in these celluloid outings. or conversely, which downtown buildings held Harold Lloyd's precarious perches.
There is hope. Downtown has finally reached that critical mass of a resident population, that has allowed many new restaurants, clubs and other establishments to cater to the new residents. Many old Beaux Arts beauties are now residentlal buildings, so hopefully, they will be preseverd for well beyond my time here.
Edited by: Arturo on Apr 25, 2012 1:59 AM
Edited by: Arturo on Apr 25, 2012 2:08 AM
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HBO Signature Wednesday, 6:30 AM EST, 3:30 AM PST
DEADLINE USA (1952): drama with Humphrey Bogart as a newspaper editor and Ethel Barrymore as the paper's owner being pressured to kill that investigative story.
Cinemax Thursdday 4:50 AM
NO DOWN PAYMENT (1957): Four couples' lives intertwine in a new suburban community, sort of a PEYTON PLACE for the junior set or a bueprint for "Knots Landing". With Sheree North, Joanne Woodward, Jeffrey Hunter, Tony Randall, Barbara Rush and Cameron Mitchell. MOST LIKELY IN PN AND SCAN
Edited by: Arturo on Apr 24, 2012 11:36 PM
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h5. FOX MOVIE CHANNEL
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 25
6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST
h5. EVERYTHING HAPPENS AT NIGHT
A British reporter (Ray Millan) competes with an American reporter (Robert Cummings) for the story of a murdered political comenator and for the affections of his ice skater daughter (Sonja Henie).
*Cast:* Ray Milland, Sonja Henie, Robert Cummings, Leonid Kinsley, Maurice Moscovitch
*Director:* Irving Cummings
h5. 1939

* h5. 7:25 am EST, 4:25 AM PST
* h5. MADISON AVENUE \ \ The ruthless world of the advertising business is examined in this film about an executive (Dana Andrews) who sacrifices friends and the love of his girlfriend (Jeannie Crain) to gain power and influence. \ \ \ *Cast:* Jeanne Crain, Dana Andrews, Eddie Albert, Eleanor Parker \ \ \ *Director:* H. Bruce Humberstone
* h5. 1962
:00 9 am EST, 6 AM PST* h5. ISLAND IN THE SUN \ \ Interracial love blossoms between two couples on a West Indies island. \ \ \ *Cast:* Harry Belafonte, Dorothy Dandridge, James Mason, Joan Fontaine \ \ \ *Director:* Robert Rossen
* h5. 1957 \ \ THURSDAY APRIL 26:
* h5. 4:50 am EST, 1:50 AM PST:
* h5. BORN TO BE BAD \ \ When a benevolent wealthy couple adopts the son of a callous unwed mother, the mother connives to use the situation as her ticket to riches. \ \ \ *Cast:* Loretta Young, Cary Grant, Jackie Kelk, Marion Burns, Henry Travers, Paul Harvey, Russell Hopton, Harry Green \ \ \ *Director:* Lowell Sherman
* h5. 1934

** h5. 6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST:
** h5. THAT WONDERFUL URGE \ \ A remake of "Love Is News", finds a newspaperman (Power) trying to dig up dirt on a prominent society girl (Tierney). \ \ \ *Cast:* Tyrone Power, Gene Tierney, Chill Wills, Reginald Gardiner \ \ \ *Director:* Roger Sinclair
** h5. 1948 \ \ SATURDAY, APRIL 28:
** h5. 4:37 am EST, 1:37 AM PST:
** h5. MUSIC IS MAGIC \ \ A Hollywood musical about an aging star (Daniels) who realizes her days at the top are numbered when a rising starlet (Faye) replaces her on a movie. \ \ \ *Cast:* Alice Faye, Bebe Daniels, Frank Mitchell, Ray Walker, Hattie Mcdaniel \ \ \ *Director:* George Marshall
** h5. 1935
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Topbiiled wrote:
Kay Francis did three films at Monogram in the end because it was lucrative to keep working, even though she was no longer at a major studio.
Topbilled, considering Kay had a yearly salary of over $225,000 yearly while at wB in the late 30's, her paltry by comparison salary at Monogram could not be considered very lucrative.
Topbilled wrote:
Then, from there, they would come back to Hollywood and do TV films (from the the late 60s forward). And then they would go the route of trying to ink a deal with a television network, filming a pilot and hoping they could develop a long-running series which some like Fred MacMurray or Robert Young were able to do. This could extend their careers another ten years if they did it right. Then, they would return to A-budget films in extended cameos or important supporting roles that might earn them an Oscar or a Golden Globe.
Topbilled, this is way too generalized. Neither MacMurray nor Young participated in the mid-to late 60's Spaghetti Westerns, nor did they then return to "do TV films . . . and then would go the route of . . . developing a long-running series", as you seem to imply; Young's first TV series started in 1954, Fred's in 1961.
Seems to me that a possible reason that Virginia did't get work at other studios is that se didn't like the salary offers, or the type of roles. Or it could be that since it had been so easy for her (or her mother) almost from the beginning, she didn't really have the heart to seriously pound the pavement, and probably easliy discouraged after losing a prime role like Veda in MILDRED PIERCE.
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On HBO Signature, Monday 4/23:
6;10 AM EST, 3;10 AM PST:
BLOOD AND SAND (1941): Tyrone Power, Linda Darnell and Rita Hayworth in this tale of top bullfighter and the women in his life. With Laird Cregar, Anthony Quinn and Lynn Bari. Rit skyrocketed to stardom as the 40's Love Goddess with this film. Beautifully filmed in technicolor.
8:20 AM EST,5:20 AM PST:
THE TALL MEN (1955): Epic western with Clark Gable and Robert Ryan vying for Jane Russell, also with Cameron Mitchell. MAY BE SHOWN IN PAN & SCAN.
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There is no great mystery here, no matter how talented, the vast majority of child stars do not transition successfully into adult stars; the only ones I can think of off-hand that were more successful as adults than as child stars were Liz Taylor and Natalie Wood, and more recently, Jodie Foster.
Most likely, Virginia saw the writing on the wall, and attempted other types of career advancement. When these didn't pan out, she retired. Hopefully, she had a happy and fullfilled life as housewie and mother.
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Thursday 4/19 on HBO Signature:
6:45AM EST, 3:4 AM PST:
CAN-CAN (1960): Frank Sinatra, Shirley MacLaine and Maurice Chevalier in ths big-screen version of the hit stage musical. PROBABLY IN PAN AND SCAN.
And from the FMC website:
Thursday 4/19:
4:35 am EST, 1:35 AM PST
MY PAL GUS
* The divorced father of a mischievous boy sends his son to day-care and falls in love with the teacher, but soon his ex-wife appears and begins making demands. \ \ \ *Cast:* Richard Widmark, Joanne Dru, Audrey Totter \ \ \ *Director:* Robert Parrish
* h5. 1952
* h5. !http://www.foxmoviechannel.com/images/schedule_row_divider.png!6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST
* h5. CAPTAIN FROM CASTILE \ \ A nobleman (Tyrone Power) and a runaway servant (Peters) who joins Cortez (Cesar Romero) and the Spanish Conquistadors as they engage in the taking of Mexico. \ \ \ *Cast:* Tyrone Power, Cesar Romero, Lee j. Cobb, Jean Peters, Alan Mowbray \ \ \ *Director:* Henry King
* h5. 1947
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* h5. STARS AND STRIPES FOREVER \ \ The composer/concert band leader John Phillip Sousa (Webb) leaves the Marine band to form his own organization and writes some of America's most famous marches. \ \ \ *Cast:* Robert Wagner, Clifton Webb, Finlay Currie, Ruth Hussey, Debra Paget \ \ \ *Director:* Henry Koster
* h5. 1952
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* h5. A FAREWELL TO ARMS \ \ A passionate but star-crossed romance develops between an American soldier and a Red Cross nurse during WWI. Based on the novel by Ernest Hemingway. \ \ \ *Cast:* Jennifer Jones, Rock Hudson, Vittorio De sica, Oscar Homolka, Kurt Kaznar, Mercedes Mccambridge, Elaine Stritch, Ernest Hemingway, Ben Hecht \ \ \ *Director:* Charles Vidor
SATURDAY 4/21:
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* h5. 4:00 am EST, 1 AM PST
* AFFAIR TO REMEMBER, AN
* A man and a woman (Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr) fall in love on an ocean voyage, part, and agree to meet six months later atop the Empire State Building in this haunting romance. Used years later, as a clever plot line in "Sleepless In Seattle". \ \ \ *Cast:* Cary Grant, Deborah Kerr, Richard Denning, Neva Patterson, Cathleen Nesbitt, Fortunio Bonanova, Hugo Friedhofer, Harry Warren \ \ \ *Director:* Leo Mccarey
* h5. 1957
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Edited by: Arturo on Apr 18, 2012 4:33 AM
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*I agree with you about the succession from Garland briefly to Virginia, but I can't fathom why MGM couldn't find a place for a good, solid girl next door who lit up every movie she was ever in, with the possible exception of Best Foot Forward. She was pretty; I don't see why they thought she had to be glamourous, especially to do light comedy.*
There was a foil to this succession, briefly, when Shirley Temple berthed at MGM for awhile following her Fox contract. Temple was MUCH better known and popular (she was still America's Sweetheart in the minds of most). Shirley and Virginia were both entering that awkward juvenile stage, which was not helpful to most child stars as the first step to (hopefully) transition to more adult roles. Virginia's image was more tomboyish than Shirley's, and she didn't have the knack for singing (unless you count "Lydia The Tattooed Lady") and dancing (some uncharitable individuals said the same about Shirley). (Weidler was more akin to Temple's erstwhile rival at 20th, Jane Withers, in her image and looks). Despite these differences, they (unknowingly) competed directly for roles, and even had films announced for one done with the other. In any event, Shirley soon moved on, and Virginia experienced more strong, and direct, competition with the arrival of Elizabeth Taylor (not Margaret O'Brien who was much too young to compete for similar roles), much more beautiful from the get-go.
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*Robert Wagner was really touching and likeable as the love-struck swain of Barbara's daughter.*
And of course, over half a century later, he revealed the truth; to paraphrase the above:
Robert Wagner was really . . . the love-struck swain of Barbara.
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From the FMC Website (Just got home, so I now I've correctly listed EST or PST):
MONDAY APRIL16:
4:50 am EST, 1;50 PST
h5. BULLFIGHTERS, THE
This Laurel and Hardy laugher has the pair in Mexico as private detectives, sent from the States in search of a female criminal.
*Cast:* Stan Laurel, Oliver Hardy
*Director:* Malcolm St. Clair
h5. 1945
h5. TUESDAY APRIL 17:
h5. 4:35 am EST, 1:35 PST
AS YOUNG AS YOU FEEL
After being laid off due to his age, a man (Woolley) dyes his hair and poses as the president of the company in order to hire back his co-workers.
*Cast:* Marilyn Monroe, Jean Peters, Monty Woolley, Thelma Ritter, David Wayne
*Director:* Harmon Jones
h5. 1951

6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST
THE BOWERY \ \ Rival saloon owners (Beery and Raft) tangle in turn of the century New York. \ \ \ *Cast:* Fay Wray, George Raft, Wallace Beery, Jackie Cooper, Pert Kelton \ \ \ *Director:* Raoul Walsh
1933
7:30 am EST, 4:30 AM PST
* UP THE RIVER
* Two hapless convicts (Spencer Tracy and Warren Hymer) try to assist a fellow cell mate (Humphrey Bogart) who has fallen in love with a female prisoner (Claire Luce). Directed by John Ford. Tracy's feature debut, Bogart's second film. \ \ \ *Cast:* Spencer Tracy, Humphrey Bogart, Warren Hymer \ \ \ *Director:* John Ford
* 1930

STREET ANGEL \ \ A desperate woman steals medication for her ailing mother and becomes a fugitive from the law. \ \ \ *Cast:* Janet Gaynor, Charles Farrell, Natalie Kingston \ \ \ *Director:* Frank Borzage
h5. 6:00 am EST, 3 AM PST
** MY PAL GUS \ \ The divorced father of a mischievous boy sends his son to day-care and falls in love with the teacher, but soon his ex-wife appears and begins making demands. \ \ \ *Cast:* Richard Widmark, Joanne Dru, Audrey Totter \ \ \ *Director:* Robert Parrish
** 1952
Edited by: Arturo on Apr 16, 2012 2:46 AM
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Moore "was much better looking"!?!? I thought he was the on the very homely side. Another reason why I didn't get his appeal.

Happy Birthday, Tyrone Power!
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Well, I don't know if Ty's B-Day was yesterday, but today FMC showed PRINCE OF FOXES, and TCM will be showing A YANK IN THE R.A.F. But yes a several movie tribute would have been preferable. Better yet, how about Power as SOTM? There are plenty of his movies that are seldom, if ever shown.
Edited by: Arturo on May 6, 2012 1:14 PM