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Of course. The climactic moment of the film is when Asta's lady friend screams, "Dammmm You! Yes I'm a *****, literally, but daaaammmmmm you!"

VALLEY OF THE DOLLS was a good example of what was now allowed, once the code was breaking down in the late 60s, especially after the language breakthrough of WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF the year before.

Unfortunately, by the late 60s, most in the set decoration and prop depts. at Fox, MGM and WB, as well.as.from other studios, were being rejected, along with other employees, as the death knell of the studio system called for fewer and fewer psrsonnel under contract.

According to the biography "Hollywood Beauty", which was researched in the 70s and 80s, and published in 1991, Linda did not make it out. She, her friend and friend's daughter were on the second floor, and after the daughter jumped out the window, Linda disappeared. She apparently was afraid to jump, and went down the stairs to go out the door. A neighbor saw her silhouetted against the flames, and he tried go go in for her, but she went back in and vanished. She was found on the floor, alive but with burns all over her body. She would not survive much more than a day lster.

Wish I was there. From.her 70s blaxploitation roles to Tarantino's film and beyond, I loves.me some Pam Grier.

What would really be something, and bring in younger viewers, is if TCM and Fathom Productions were to crosspromote Marilyn as SOTM. Each week Fathom could do their two showings on Sundays and Wednesdays, at select movie theaters throughout the country, showing a different iconic Monroe role. There could be lobby displays, lifesized or larger cardboard cutouts, say of Marilyn with her blowing skirt or in the pink satin sheath. Of course, the tie-in to TCM's monthlong tribute should be helpful to both, as young viewers may be drawn in to see films of which they may be familiar only with stills or a short scene.

1. LOVE BITES ANDY HARDY 2. WALK THE DOG ON THE WILD SIDE 3. THE LONG, LONG TRAILMIX 4. FROM HERE TO THE END OF THE YARD 5. A FISTFUL OF DOGBONES 6. MIDNIGHT LICE 7. THE PAWS AND THE GLORY 8. REBEL WITHOUT SHARP CLAWS 9. AROUND THE WORLD IN TWO.DOG.YEARS 10. ASTA ON MY SHOULDER 10. WITNESS TO THE PET EXCRETION

On FMC (all times eastern): Thursday, 10/1: 4 am: IN LOVE AND WAR (1958).........................6 am: WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE (1945)............................7:15 am: TALES OF MANHATTAN (1942).........................9:15 am: IT HAPPENED IN FLATBUSH (1942)..............................10:40 am: JUST OFF BROADWAY (1952).....................11:50 BLOODHOUNDS OF BROADWAY (1952)...............................1:25 pm: MADISON AVENUE (1962)................ Friday, 10/2: 4 am: TALES OF MANHATTAN (1942)...............................6 am: IT HAPPENED IN FLATBUSH (1942)................................7:30 am: BLOODHOUNDS OF BROADWAY (1952)................................9:15 am: MADISON AVENUE (1962)..................................11 am: FROM.THE TERRACE (1960)..................................1:25 pm: JOHN AND MARY (1969)............... Saturday, 10/3: 3 am: FORBIDDEN STREET (1949)................................4:35 am: THE SECRET OF CONVICT LAKE (1951)...............................6 am: CALL OF THE WILD (1935)................................7:30 am: BLACK SHEEP (1935).............................8:50 am: I WAS AN ADVENTURESS (1940)...................................10:15 am: FORBIDDEN STREET (1949)................................11:50 am: THE SECRET OF CONVICT LAKE (1951).......................1:15 pm: SEVEN THIEVES (1960).............. Sunday, 10/4: 4 am: LLOYD'S OF LONDON (1936)...............................6 am: I WAS AN ADVENTURESS (1940)................................7:30 am: THE THREE MUSKETEERS (1939).......................8:45 am: CAN-CAN (1960)............................11 am: SEVEN THIEVES (1960).................................12:45 pm: HOW TO STEAL A MILLION (1966)..................

Did you plant your own tree?

Probably not. It's a 20th Century Fox film, but I'm not sure if it's ever been shown on FMC.

I agree TCM.should honor more foreign language.stars as SOTM. Of the "non-stars" you listed, I disagree with Eleanor Parker as one of these. She WAS a legitimate star in the late 1940s and throughout the 1950s. Lorre, Hagen and Rains were character actors, usually featured players in support, but occasionally had leads, usually in programmers or Bs.

With strong circumstantial evidence in the news this week of water on Mars, can the war of the worlds be far behind?

The film I'd most like to see, if Bennett got SOTM, is 1951's THE GUY WHO CAME BACK. Joan costars with Paul Douglas and Linda Darnell, as her husband and his mistress. Also with Billy Gray and Zero Mostel. Of course, if shown, hopefully on a decent copy...........I have a barely fair copy I bought online.

Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but the showing of Shirley Jones tribute to director Richard Brooks has the scene where her character in ELMER GANTRY describes how she had first met Elmer, in terms that could.not have been anything but obvious even then.

I had never seen STOLEN IDENTITY, amd I rather liked this THIRD MAN-inspired film.

Don't forget the many anecdotes, confirming Asta's behavior lapses as he ran amok in Hollywood and at jet set locales around the world, once he became a star, in the tell-all biography, "'Scuse Me While I P iss This Guy".

In the film.BACK STREET, it doesn't seem.that Susan Hayward is an older woman compared.to John Gavin. They both seemed about the same age, definitely not.their actual ages. And I think it was believable in this respect, since she didn't look noticeably older than he did.

It seems that the concurrent campaigns for Asta and Marilyn Monroe for SOTM has led many to research some.of.the series of films.they did together. Several titles of this group made the top ten thus. 1. THE POOCH AND THE SHOWGIRL 2. ASTA YOUNG ASTA FEEL 3. SOME.LIKE IT HOT DOGS 4. WE'RE NOT NEUTERED 5. THE SEVEN YEAR B ITCH 6. HOW TO BURY A BILLIONAIRE'S TICKERTAPE 7. NIAGASTA 8. LADIES OF THE KENNEL 9. FLEA NEST 10. COLLAR BY NIGHT 10. GENTLEMEN PREFER WIRE TERRIERS

This timeline is not quite accurate. SCUDDAH HOO, SCUDDAH HAY is normally listed in MMs filmography as her film debut she had walkons in a few other films) even though most of her bit was cut out. She is seen briefly in one shot, and survives in a long shot in a canoe. This was under her first contract at 20th Century Fox. Her second bit, in the B teenage drama DANGEROUS YEARS (also at Fox), was actually seen first, due to being released before the other film. After having one 6 month option picked up by the studio, she was dropped in late 1947, after having spent a year at Fox. Later, she got another six month contract at Columbia. She appeared promising in her singing, dancing and acting classes, and so,.out of the blue, she got a.lead.in the low budget musical LADIES OF THE CHORUS (if anything, her casting in this was due to a "friend" with influence moreso than her bit in the Fox B film). However, Columbia didn't pick up her option, despite her promise, and she was dropped.after 6 months. From.there, she did modeling of various sorts, and got the bit in the Marx Brothers' LOVE HAPPY. This had nothing to do with her work in LOTC. She then played a chorus girl in A TICKET TO TOMAHAWK, then got the important Small Part (not a bit) in an important picture THE ASPHALT.JUNGLE, and That got her noticed. Later in 1950, she got another important Small Part in an important film, ALL ABOUT EVE. This led to another contract.at Fox, where several.featured roles in comedies, plus plenty of cheesecakee, finally led the groundwork for her meteoric rise. The important roles.in TAJ and AAE, were due to an important contact,.Johnny Hyde, who helped her get the second Fox contract.

I've heard this before, and have enjoyed it. What a treat.from a more innocent.time. I love.the vignette.in RADIO.DAYS with this brodcast, when the Diane Wiest character is abandoned by her date on a lover's lane as he flees in panic. Great scene in a fun film full of great scenes.

The only thing I wouldn't like in a MM SOTM is if part of one night featured films where she had walk-ons (if that), eg SCUDDAH HOO, SCUDDAH HAY or LOVE HAPPY. There are enough films she has done where that would not be necessary. Especially if a more significant part of hers is left about by that type of inclusion.

What.did people think about the other films on the last night of the Susan Hayward SOTM, besides THE MARRIAGE-GO-ROUND and VALLEY OF THE DOLLS?

THE LITTER Bette Davis stars as the wife of a plantation foreman.in Borneo, who lies to husband Herbert Marshall to cover up that their faithful.dog Asta has not been all that faithful, running off every chance he gets to the neighboring plantation, to be there with the female mutt, who like the tropical.climate,.always seemed to be in heat. Davis doesn't want hubby to know the truth about the mixed breed litter Asta has sired, since it'll ruin his plans to establish a puppy mill. So she pays mysterious Gale Sondagard, in a reprise of her role earlier that year as Cat inTHE BLUE BIRD, to do away with the evidence. Sondagard slashes the pups with her dagger-like claws.

Honoring Betty Grable.when she would have turned 100 would be great. However, TCM did not do the same.for Tyrone Power last year, despite a thread about it here. Grable would be a great.and deserving choice. I didn't forget Grable btw, perhaps THE biggest star at 20th for the longest time. I just mentioned the names of those Fox stars that had a thread pushing them for SOTM, at least those are the ones I remember. There are other worthies of course.

Yes, supposedly she had made it out, but went back in looking for someone who had also made it out, unbeknownst to her. That was courageous, considering her fears. Although there are ugly rumors on the internet as to what happened.