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For those who might be interested, here are a few areas in which Gentleman Jim is NOT historically accurate.
1. The real Jim Corbett was a quiet, dignified man, something not nearly as interesting as having him portrayed in the film as he is as a strutting c o c k-of-the-walk.
2. Jim Corbett was a married man, not a bachelor bantering with a high spirited high society woman
3. Corbett and Sullivan had no handshake after their 1892 fight. They very much continued to hate one another. It wasn't until 1910 that they finally briefly shook hands in front of the cameras when they were both rooting for former heavyweight champ Jim Jeffries to win the heavyweight crown back "for the white race" from champion Jack Johnson.
4. Corbett's parents were not the engaging happy pair that they were portrayed to be in the film. In fact, shortly after Corbett lost his heavyweight crown to Bob Fitzsimmons, his father committed suicide after shooting his mother to death.
Other facts:
A reference is made in the film to a 61 round draw between Corbett and Peter Jackson. Jackson was a black Australian fighter and one of the most respected fighters of his time. Sullivan was a notorious racist (not making him particularly unique for his era) and always drew a line at having black opponents fight for the heavyweight crown. To be fair, that continued to be the practice of all heavyweight champs until Tommy Burns put the crown on the line against Jack Johnson in 1908.
While he's best remembered today as the second heavyweight champion of the world and the man who fought under the Marquis of Queensbury rules when he defeated Sullivan, Jim Corbett spent most of his life working as a stage actor where he made most of his money.
Tom, have you ever seen the Sullivan biography THE GREAT JOHN L., from 1945? They briefly go into the Corbett/Sullivan debacle. Interesting fim, but I have a poor quality dvd I bought on the internet. Would love this to be released officially, and restored of course.
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Thanks for the info. I used to record a ton of dvds. But last year, Directv.upgraded my boxes to HD, giving me dvr in the process. Now the boxes don't have an outlet to hook up the dvd recorder, so I have the limited dvr nearly full. Quite frustrating, but maybe I can find an affordable way around this.The are software programs available (some freeware with limitations, and some for purchase with fewer limitations) that allow one to "capture" whatever is on their screen, either as a still or in a video format. There are other programs that allow one to convert the files from one type to another (i.e. a bmp image to a jpeg, or an AVI video file to an MPEG, etc). And there are other programs that allow additional editing, such as adding "chapters," titles, and what-not, and lastly there is software that allow various media viewing, and also burning to a media disk (CD, DVD, BlueRay, or a portable flash or hard drive). So if one wants something bad enough, and is willing to make the investment in time and resources, one can record practically anything off the net.
But with TCM, it's easiest to just use an HD video recorder, so long as the signal is not corrupted (or interrupted) by your provider.
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Thanks for sharing.that Holden. What an amazing actress,.and awesome.performance. Thoroughly deserved the Oscar imho.
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Wasn't Donahue some.kind of.therapist? I wonder.if.he ever.worked.on her, from.a.clinical point of view. I get the impression he didn't. Although, from just the little I've gleaned.of this book, I have a feeling this tell-all was his form of therapy.from page 124, That Girl and Phil-
"I had just finished setting the new tulips in the new flutes for the newly rescheduled and relocated luncheon when I heard the unmistakeable roar of Marlo emanating from the other side of the pantry door:
' You know what, Loretta? F*** you and f*** your f***ing swear jar...You can f***ing take it and you can f***ing sit on it and you can f***ing spin until, everyf***ingwhere you go, you sound like a G**D*** coin purse someone left in the washer."
This was followed by Marlo's heels on the hardwood fast approaching. I hurried to fill the last of the flutes as there was a sudden pause right before I expected her to come bursting in. Clearly turning to Judy, I heard her say:
'By the way, what they say about Gable being your dad? It's f***ing true.' "
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I see Tor has a life mask for sale on ebay
Hey there's an idea for your new face, once the bandages are removed.
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YES!!!!!!!!! i knew I'd seen him before! I just couldnt place him......
Ross Elliot was a featured player on films during the 50s. He had a contract for awhile at Fox in the early part.of the decade. Probably his most prominent role in a film still shown often, was as the detective in GENTLEMEN PREFER BLONDES, hired to keep tabs on Marilyn Monroe, and romancing Jane Russell.
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That's kind of you. I'm having some work done.
Preparing for my new disfigurement movies thread. There is a whole sub-genre of these films.
You don't look so bad yourself.
You're not planning a.Caitlin.Jenner style.makeover are you?
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On FMC (all times eastern):
Tuesday, 6/9:
4 amz: THE QUILLER MEMORANDUM (1966)....................6 am: YOU CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING (1937)...................7:45 am: HOUSE OF STRANGERS (1949)..................9:30 am: FIVE FINGERS (1952).................11:20 am: BIGGER THAN LIFE (1956)...................1 pm: ISLAND IN THE SUN (1957).................
Wednesday, 6/10:
3.am: BIGGER THAN LIFE (1956)..................4:40 am: DON'T BOTHER TO KNOCK (1952)....................6 am: HOUSE OF STRANGER (1949).................8 am: ISLAND IN THE SUN (1957)..................10 am: THE SECRET OF THE PURPLE REEF (1960)..................11:30 am: PICKUP ON SOUTH STREET (1953)....................1 pm: CIRCLE OF DECEPTION (1961).............
Thursday, 6/11:
4 am: THE SHERIFF OF FRACTURED JAW (1960)................6 am: THE SECRET OF THE PURPLE REEF (1960)..................7:30 am: PICKUP ON SOUTH STREET (1953)................ 8:55 am: CIRCLE OF DECEPTION (1961)...................10:35 am: THE BROKEN LAND (1962)....................11:40 am: FHE REWARD (1965)..................1:15 pm: THE SHERIFF OF FRACTURED JAW (1958)............
Friday, 6/12:
4 am: THE REWARD (1965)................... 6 am: BORN RECKLESS (1930).....................7:20 am: TAMPICO (1944).................8:40 am: THE QUILLER MEMORANDUM (1966)..................10:30 am: THE TERRORISTS (1975)..................12 pm: THE IRON CURTAIN (1948)...............1:30 pm: PICKUP ON SOUTH STREET (1953)......
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Tor Johnson, for comeback he pined
Longed for more glories a la Wood's PLAN NINE
But not just any old script
With demands, not tight-lipped
Who knew as a diva he'd shine!
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Yes, BUT Lucy DID at least get to meet that "nice man", the director of that commercial.
(...played by Ross Elliott...and who coincidentally just the other night on TCM was shown playing Ann Sheridan's on-the-run husband in "Woman on the Run")
The character Lucy Ricardo could have contributed many a post to the Brush with Greatness thread, will all the celebrities she met, especially when in Hollywood.
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I remember as a kid in the late 70s reading that Paul Newman planned to film a movie of an openly gay track runner, in a relationship with his coach. Robby Benson was to be the runner. I don't remember the name of the source book, or don't know why it wasn't then made, but I saw something a couple of years back, where a couple of today's stars were planning to do it.
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And yet.....Molly Brown is thr one they named unsinkable.We had a similar discussion on this sort of thing once.
I suggested WINTERDANCE, a book by Gary Paulsen that chronicles his training for, and running his first Iditarod.
Also, KINFLICKS, by Lisa Alther, which follows one woman's struggle with attitude and identity crisis through the '50's, '60's and into the '70's.
DYNASTY by Robert S. Elegant which chronicles the life of Mary Osgood, who arrives in Hong Kong in 1900 and her life connected to the family of a wealthy Chinese "tycoon" of sorts through the ever bending shape of mainland China for the next 70 years, Through Sun-Yat-Tzen, to Mao Tze Tung. and the tycoon's family's involvement in all of it.
WINTERDANCE is the only TRUE story among them, but all would, in the right hands, make compelling movies( IMHO!)
Sepiatone
EDIT: Oops, I meant to respond to the thread prior to this one.
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It is implied that the painting behind Ann was one her husband did of her a few years ago during happier times in their marriage.
So in a case like that the director might have used an earlier painting of Ann (of course one can't see the face in the picture clearly so maybe it was someone else). With the small budget I doubt they had a custom painting created like they did for Laura.
For Dark Passage Bacall has a photo of herself displayed from a table in the living room. This is a very iconic Bacall photo (well iconic today for fans of Bacall) and one I purchased because I saw it in the film. Ok, this isn't relevant at all, but that is my favorite phone of her!
Ok I missed the part about the painting,.and was commenting on the still posted here.
As for the painting in LAURA, Otto Preminger did not like the way various renditions were coming out, so he had thr art dept. use an enlarged photo of Gene Tierney, and they covered it over lightly with a coat of an oil base, giving the desired illusion; it wasn't a painting at all.
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Was it to the strains of a zither or of a kazoo?
Ok now, let me start over
Tor Johnson so hated the zither
He tried for a sound that was better
But couldn't find his kazoo
So armpit had to do
Which he smashed on his hand, he's no quitter.
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Sybil was a TV movie (or mini-series) in 1976 with Sally Field as Sybil and Joanne Woodward as the shrink.
Duh! I just realized Joanne Woodward's role reversal (for the second time). I had once before awhile back, but I guess it didn't stick.
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I agree with all of the above. Some of us here (who think we are) know it alls may be familiar with the info imparted on the wraparounds, but it may be news to the vast majority of the viewers. In that respect, it can be seen as a vital service; I just wish Bob and Ben did this with all of the films shown, 24 hours, even if it is a canned intro (for those in the off hours).SynapticWind,
First of all let me just say how nice it is to have you here at TCM City, THE place to discuss films from every decade!
My own feelings toward Robert Osborne and Ben Mankiewicz are that they are on TCM to provide an introduction to the films that we are all watching. Now in many cases the information that they are imparting can and often is info we have all heard of before, or some sort of gossipy info that only Robert Osborne has heard of or that they rec'd from a biography or other source material. In many cases the info is Oscar-related especially if the film rec'd any nominations and or won in any category or possibly the actors who appeared in the film may have been given or were nominated for Oscars.
It could have been some obscure tidbit of info that many fans many never have heard of. Again, their responsibility is to intro the film to the viewer. Many of TCM's viewers do not come here to the message boards to discuss films. In fact, I'd say that a very, very small % of TCM's overall viewers even know that this message board exists. And some of those folks who come here may or may not have any opinion of TCM's on-air hosts. So having said this, there could be a small group of posters here who do not care for the on air personalities and more important would rather have them replaced all together. Maybe not replaced but eliminated so that the films are shown without any of the extra information being broadcast.
But in the case of TCM, I think it is vitally important to have their introductions to the films stay a part of TCM for now and the future. Eventually RO is going to retire and Ben may be the face of TCM. Or other possibly better equipped to introduce films. And this I think is valid. TCM is unique in that with the old AMC, they were one of a handful of movie channels that did this. Have someone come on before and after a film to discuss the film. To discontinue this practice may help alleviate concerns or objections some may have towards Osborne and Ben, but to others, especially newcomers to films, I think it would be wise to keep thses before and after commentaries going.
Just my humble opinion.
Rey (aka fxreyman)
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1949... Good hair style, good photographer, good makeup:
1950, bad hair style, bad photographer, bad makeup:
Well the hairstyles in both films are basically the same. That short 'do so popular in the late 40s and in the 50s did not enhance Sheridan's looks imho, but made her look older and more matronly. In this respect, she is like Ida Lupino, Linda Darnell and, infamously, Jane Wyman, where they looked.much better when they wore longer hair, than those short, curly styles.
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I noticed there are at least two photos of Ann Sheridan in this movie - one on a piece of furniture, and another hanging on the wall.
There there is this picture on the wall behind her:
Is that Ann in some previous role? Anyone know?
Unless it is to denote an early period, photos of an actor/actress used as.a photo of their character are usually taken as stills for that production. I have noticed something funny re. this in ZERO HOUR (1957). When Dana Andrews character comes home and finds the note from his wife Linda Darnell that she has left him, there is a family picture of them plus their son. The funny thing is it's obvious that it was done at the same time as the publicity stills, with all of them wearing the same outfits as in the film. In fact, its just a variatiom of the shot used in the posters where the two worried parents are carrying their sick son. But in the picture in the apartment, they are.posed together as a family.
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One actor whose appeal I have never fathomed, is Casey Adams/Max Showalter. His annoying laughter.and smirking smile are irritating as.all get out.
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A number of films during the studio era were filmed to be told chronologically, but during post production, the decision was made to cut the film and have the narrative incorporated flashbacks. Often new footage would be added, or new dialogue inserted, to bridge any gaps in the storytelling.
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Great writeup, and one of the films that put Deborah Kerr on the Hollywood radar. It is always a treat, as is she.
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THIEVES HIGHWAY, to be shown on Lee J. Cobb day, would've fit in easily this past Friday, on the night of noirs in San Francisco. It doesn't totally take place there, as there are many scenes on the highway, and back at Richard Conte's home. But it does feature some gritty scenes at the produce market in the city, as well as some grimy neighborhoods. Really an exceptional film.
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That's hilarious, gagman.
Imagine what he'd say if he saw a 1970's era Hollywood product.
Or any recent hip hop video.
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Now, if the counts could reflect that , they might be worth having.
As it is now, they have no value whatsoever that I can see. They're just a tool that people can use to annoy others.
You mean like endlessly posting after someone Yup....can result in a high post count, but useless basically. Definitely quantity with no quality involved.
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Films That Were Controversial For Their Time
in General Discussions
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I don't know if John Waters has been mentioned here, but his PINK FLAMINGOS and FEMALE TROUBLE were considered quite scandalous in their day, especially the former. I still find some of it quite repellent.