Ellaisgood
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Thank you for your service Jake.
Hello 1/2 empty glass Fred....the ''I saw it all because I was a cameraman" poop gets old. Your description of "The Killing Fields" oozed with a snide muck of hubris.
The the movie last night, (not in real life of course)
they were speaking a lot of languages...one was,,,mmm....a....OH YA FRENCH. Very popular language in SE ASIA for a while. Now I'm not sure Fred....but...wasn't French spoken in Vietnam also? Or maybe I'm confused about my borders and things in that country of Asia. Somethig tells me there had been some kind of an "occupation" or a nice understanding between the country of Asia and the French.
We just don't get it do we Fred? I'm sorry. We screwed up on that one. I personally, thank you for introducing the movie with such sting. The shear inhumanity shown (reported it seemed, by a REPORTER) wasn't enough. Sometime I'll tell you a story of other "holocausts" that went on in Africa during the 90's.
Well gee whiz....If only a movie would have come to the U.S (you could've shot it!! OOpps no pun intended) Guess you were busy during 90's....maybe we could've helped, or become aware of the problems sooner.
My husband came home from 15 ms in Iraq in NOV. Funny the irony, what is on TV and in the papers doesn't seem to add up to what my husband says. The bridges, schools for girls, hospitals, and other work the soldiers are doing there doesn't seem to be mentioned? So...glad it was just the movie last night that Cambodian horrors were "reported".....then, as now, we would just have done nothing!
Thanks Fred!
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I agree completely. There is a thread about what gems are still with us (female and male), and not only do they deserve a "happy b-day" and a movie or two in their honor....but we need to get them interviewed or....even better...have them pick some movies. I believe we have very few actors left that worked in the 30's-40's.
The thought of Miss Olivia, or Miss Joan....introducing a movie on TCM (even by voice) seems like a no brainer.
I want some gossip...you know those saucy tomales will spill for R.O
Really.....please find that thread....so many of our greats are with us....I wonder if we concentrate too much on whose passed rather than on whose with us.
At the very least...I do understand your concern. If it is so&so's birthday sometimes an afternoon is devoted to their movies. Why not all? Perhaps declaring some dividing line of geat-vs-okay actors is too tough. Perhaps each day would be a birthday and then no diversity? I just think what our teachers told us...If you had something you'd better have enough to go around.
Perhaps the answer is legal. Use of name and films are regulated or copyrighted.
Well atleast from us....Happy Birthday Miss Olivia.
RO does write about our gems in the Now Playing...a daunting task no doubt. Like you...I don't ever want them to just be memorials.
I will email TCM now.
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Wow. I started to love TCM's message boards last summer as my husband (one of the lucky G.I's) was extended in Iraq to 15 months instead 12. I was immediately in an argument about Jane Fonda and decided to stick to movie subjects. He came home in Nov and is now in charge of all military training for the cadets at West Point. He will then assume command ofa Battalion and deploy again.
My husband took an oath. Last Saturday some 400-500 22 year olds took the same oath in Meinke Stadium.
Here is what I believe. What our VOLUNTEER men and women soldiers do is their job. If any of you want to read up on each specific MOS that might help you. Now ACTORS....let me say that again...ACTORS do their job. I have about 10 performers that I refuse to watch.
This Thread was possible because of our troops. Those of you who march and wave signs...your welcome. I am not mad or wish to change your mind....your welcome.
By gum...I appreciate the day devoted to MOVIES that are made by ACTORS who do damn good jobs PORTRAYING what the events of each war, conflict, prison camp etc.
Of course there is going to be bickering....politics and war are not polite discussion,
I think I wilo go back to watching my movies. And Old Packard or any one else we screwed,,,,GET OVER IT. Don't ****...come up with a solution and be part of all of us.
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Perhaps I am being paranoid...but I did not mention Kirk Douglas in my list. I came across his name and thought that it had already been mentioned below and the mere repetition could cause my TCM demise.
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Cinmadame,
No..I use my moms name (Ella) for my double secret TCM name. And sadly...still no connection to the Great Ella Raines.
I cannot even imagine what that day...weeks were like. Could you see the atrocity from your window?
We were living in Madrid and thought it was a BBC movie...only for a moment. Most of us (embassy/state dept) folk had the luxury of a few minutes of peace and confusion bliss before reality hit. That pond can keep you only so far away.
The people in the city are great....I believe it's my insecurities that must go away.
Thanx for the info...can't wait to explore!!!
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Blazing Saddles
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To All..I do not know what the present situation is. I can only hope all will be with restored...of course with much sweat and tears...but to an even grander Universal Studios. When I watch the Weather Station, if CA is not having perfect weather, they are just getting everything that can fall shake or slide.
I must say that the very thought of losing films had to have the nerdlings "what iffing"long ago. There surely is a secure plan. I am not a conspiracy thinker but one must think that there are several if not more, farmed out to banks or salt mines, or the east side. I am sure, like a museum, there is plenty on the ground to use as resourse and for study. But I am sure with so many creations made....the downstairs basement of the studios just doesn't jive.
As long as no lives were lost...Universal Studios will do what what they do best...recreate!
verisimilitude in the perfect form
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Thankx Cinnamon...also can't wait to check out the boutiques and PLEASE give me a name of hollywood artifacts place. Gee better yet...how about a theater one! And I do realize you have a life and are busy. I have to sharpen up on my "how not to get taken in because I look from I'm Iowa" skills. (not from Iowa but defitely green and still smiing and saying "Oh I'm sorry" when bumped in the streets! must learn New York Savy!!!
I have lived all over U.S and in European Embassies....but i hit Grand Central and turn into a stuttering mess.
Okay heres rest of the gents...
Mel Ferrer, James Garner,Martin Milner,Donald Moffat, Al Molinaro, Ricardo Montalban, Ron Moody, Roger Moore, Harry Moore, Harry Morgan, Robert Morse, Amin Mueller-Stahl, Don Murray, Brent Musbuerger, Jim Nablie Nabors, Ed Nelson, Peter Nero, Bob Newhart, Paul Newman, Mike Nichols, Leonard Nimoy, Leslie Nielsenh, Hugh O'Brian, Milo O'Shea, Peter O'Toole, Geoffrey Palmer, Fess Parker, Les Paul, Arthur Penn, Niehemiah Persoff, Oscar Peterson, Andre Previn, Leontyne Price, Ray Price, Robert Prosky, Carl Reiner, Don Rickles, Pernell Roberts, Cliff Robertson, Dale Robertson, Jimmy Rodgers, Wayne Ragers, Sonny Rollins, Ken Russell, Mark Russell, Mort Sahl, Gene Saks, John Saxon, William Shallert, Maximillian Schnell, Paul Schofield, Vin Scully, Doc Severinsen, Pete Seeger, Omar Sharif, William Shatner, George Shearing, Cesare Siepi,James B. Sikking, Dick and Tom Smothers, Jo Stafford,Arnold Stang, Harry Dean Stanton, Jerry Stiller, Dean Stockwell, Larry Storch, Gale Storm, Keely Smith, Yma Sumac, George Takei, Donald Sutherland, Russ Tamblyn, Billy Taylor, Robert Towndend, Tommy Tune, Dick Van Dyke, Dick Van Patton,Robert Vaughn, Abe Vigoda, Max Von Sydow, Robert Wagner, Eli Wallach, Fritz Weaver, Adam West, Stuart Whitman, James Whitmore, William Widmore, Jonathan Winters, Joseph Wiseman, Edward Woodward, Alan Young, Franco Zeffirelli, Efrem Zimbalist Jr.
I,
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is Gloria Stewart, that minx from Titanic, is still will us. I will recheck the lists below...I'm sure she is on there.
She'd be a saucy old gal to give and interview! Also took these weeks to think of the mens that are still with us.
Cinemaven ...just moved 43 miles up state from you to West Point. I would love some tips on movie theaters, theaters (not Broadway) and just off the wall stuff so I can wander for the next two years. ITS PRETTY RIGID AND TRADITIONAL HERE...no big surprise there. Must get my fix or I will turn into salt or something.
So George Hamilton
Christopher Lee and Christopher Yum Plummer, Earl Hollman, Buck Henry, Howard Hessmen, George Hearn, Steven Hill, Hal Holbrook, Geoffrey Holder, Sydney P. and Harry Belafonte, Ed Ames, Richard Anderson, Alan Arkin and Alda, Eddy Arnold, John Astin Sir Richard Attenborough, Charles Aznavour, Orson Bean, Gene Barry. Philip Bosco (WOW..SEE "THE SAVAGES" ASAP) Jean-Paul Belmondo, Theodore Bikel,, Tom Bosley, Mel Brooks, Dave Brubeck, Sid Ceasar, Montserrat Caballe,Pat Carroll, Jack Carter, Richard Chamberlain, William Christopher, Mike Connors, Robert Conrad, John Cullum, Robert Culp, Pat Corley, Richard Dawson, William Daniels, Jimmy Dean, Blossom Dearie, Alain Delon, Buddy De Franco, Dom DeLuise, Roy Dotrice, Bradford Dillman, Dino DeLaurentis, Robert Duvall, Peter Falk, Clint, Blake Edwards, Richard Dysart, Bob Elliot,Robert Evans, Jamie Farr, Chad Everett, Dick Enberg, Albert Finney, John Forsythe, Al Freeman, Jr.,Robert Fuller, John Gavin, Ben Gazzara, Nicolai Gedda, Julian Glover, Julian Glover, Joel Grey, Charles Haid, Gene Hackman, Andy Griffith, Rupert Grint, George Grizzard, Charles Grodin, Ulu Grosbard, Robert Guillaume, David Hartman, Pat Harrington, Roy Haynes, Pat Hingle, Ian Holm, John Hillerman, Judd Hirsch, Tab Hunter, Barry Humphries, Earle Hyman, George S. Irving, Conrad Janis, James Ivory, Norman Jewison, James Earl Jones, Jack Jones, Louis Jourdan, Martin Landau, Yaphet Kotto, Bernie Kopell, Lee Konitz, Jack Klugman, George Kennedy, John Karlen, Alex Carras, Norman Lear, Michel Legrand, Jerry Lewis, Hal Linden, Herbert Lom, Robert Loggia, Art Linkletter, Sidney Lumet, Laurence Luckinbill, Lorin Maazel, James MacArthur, Gavin MacLeod, Patrick MacNee, Cornell Macneil, Bill Macy, Karl Malden, Neville Marriner, Jean Marsh, Garry Marshall, Peter Marshall, Dick Martin, Tony Martin, Jackie Mason, Kurt Mazar, Paul Mazursky, Davis McCullum, Kevin McCarthy, Patrick McGoohan, Al McGuire, Ed McMahon, Zubin Mehta, Mitch Miller,
Gotta stop for a while. Will finish men tonight...sorry of some females are in the boys club. Also..since I know about ziltch compared to you threadlings.....If I put someone down who isn't, wasn't, and shall never be considered one or our treasures.....please knock em off. I am reading from World Almanac so the artists correspondiing accomplishments are not listed
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Wow. Ziggyelman... I'm not quite sure what to do with those visuals. Thanks for the website. I find it unusual yet refreshing that I have to delete my wild and wacky TCM visit in case my teenage boys should find the septuagenerian's website.
Mamie Van *Dorian* for sure! May she never go into the attic and remove that sheet!
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Wow...this heaven for an insomniac. Can't get to my books as its 4:40 a.m. and I'll catch heck if I wake someone up. Izcutter...help with idiot answers I give.
Psychopathic-Robert Mitchum in Night of the Hunter
Narcissistic-Bette Davis' Mom in Now, Voyager (I know Izcutter saying the actresses name the moment its read), or Constance Bennet in a 1933 film as an American married to an Englishman with Title but no pounds.
Machiavellian-Tyrone Powers in Witness for the Prosecution
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Great idea Thelma! The variety shows of the 40's and 50's AND the commercials/sponsors of the hour are "Classic" T.V. I would love to see Charlie McCarthy, Red Buttons, Jack Benny and even the cigarette commercials, soap, and newest Chevrolets. Nat King Cole..etc
T.V. Land shows the same shows they pawned on us every Sunday when we had 3 channels. They all have a plot. Good guy wins and Beaver learns his lesson. I don't remember any variety or the mention of the Such and Such Hour.
This would be completely different if I am following your view Thelma. Like when people had 1 T.V. and watching these shows was a fix for skits, big stars and great music. A real treat.
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Those are 77 year old legs? My new idol. Threadlings...Dr's can do a lot...but as far as I know they cannot make legs look like that. If there is some new re-attatchment or swapping legs with other people procedure...please let me know.
That is just not fair. The photo is in daylight as well. I'd walk around in a tennis outfit and 5 inch heels year-round if I had those gams!
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I did it again! I said that Debbie Reynolds has an animal rescue in Carmel...I meant Doris Day!! Miss Reynolds and Day both live in Carmel or Carmel-by-the-Sea but it's Miss Doris who has the rescue. Both ladies are dynamite in my view! Whether having the foresite to perserve Hollywood costumes or helping our animal friends...it doesn't get any better than knowing neither rest on their reputations but choose to give back.
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Maureen O'Hara!!!! Got one!
I do have a fondness for Miss Maureen. About 10 years ago she performed in a TV movie entitled "Cab[ride] to Canada" . Not a blockbuster. An older woman who is losing her friends too often, explores her mortality by taking a L.A. based cab--originally for a normal ride-all the way up to Vancouver. This was based on a true story...it was in the papers for 5 minutes. My father was the realife character's attorney. I am not trying to give you my life story but express how Miss Maureen made the character a. beautiful b.believably sane c.let me understand, in my own little non-acting world, what a talented artist is and what they give to us. BECAUSE folks...the real old dear was bonkers, not particularly nice and MOST CERTAINLY DID NOT LOOK like Miss Maureen.
I love the idea of waving smelling salts under TCM's nose and getting these treasures interviewed! Come on TCM! I would love to hear about filmaking when these actors and actresses worked. Especially from Miss Marsha mentioned below...I want to hear all the details she has.
I would also like to hear some saucy torrid tales. As you said, Miss Marsha is classy. But perhaps some other actress would care to open up.
FYI Ernest Borgnine the voice of a character on Sponge Bob Square Pants as is Marion Ross. Mr. Borgnine's voice relishes with deprecating humor as his character(on the cartoon) is a Col Blimpish super-hero of long ago who is begged a "come-back" when evil threatens.
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I was looking at the thorough lists and thinking how smart I'll look when I say Miss Olivia and Miss Joan.
Just met a woman in the vets office here in NY (upstate small town...no celebs) who just moved from Carmel. There, her vet is married to Miss Kim Novak and raved about how down to earth she is. This woman dogs (Gracie and Garbo) are from Miss Debbie Reynolds animal rescue and another dog (not present) was from Miss Joan Fontaine's gang.
I was drooling more than my 2 Great Pyreenes.
I have added nothing to this thread but perhaps the long understood notion that keeping active...and being happy even when the choices are met with adversity, are common denominators for longevity. Like these lovelies...the constant need for beauty and attention did not trap them. They all mastered their art. Then they all made huge career/personal changes that even the most humble person would wrestle with. Now...feeding pets, taking in strays and fixing their wounds, and the...you know...cleaning the yard with so many pets.
I indeed wish they kept working...but admire more the tenacity of happiness they own.
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Good point. There should not only be more pre-codes in general but if a pre-code is a part of an actors total make-up of work...not showing it is a poor decision and seems to be disingenuous creative editing.
Pre-codes have been discovered and thus are a part of film history. For shame TCM. When you choose to focus/honor an actor...do it with truth so we (the audience) will learn about the life of someone we admire. Please don't leave something so germaine to the future work of the artist...like a pre-code... out. These actors were all green during this time....surely the movies they made then is relavent to the whole.
I dislike convenient history. It is a cop out as well as dishonorable and weak. Filmmaking is a part of our history. Please keep this form of art honest.
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Too all...sorry for giving all the credit to Snorky...just looked at the whole gallery esp pg 17. Also learned that many of the pcs were off the web.
Even so...you fans HAVE to collect some items....still the question from above. That is, How do you do it? Ebay? Luck? family attics? and this is of course not the thread for this question or for TCM message board at all...so in 20 words or less, how can you tell it the photo/poster is original?
Your new worshipper...and a member of the letter writers for more showings of pre-codes....Thanks
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Snorky....how do I go about purchasing some of these photo's/movie posters? Do you own these? None of my business....sorry. I would like to know how to become a collector like you. I would love to be surrounded in my home by this era.
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ooops. Pre-code pics from Snorky.
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DePalma and Celluloidkid. Do you own these photos, are you collectors? The movie posters that I have seen from you as well as these unposed treasures are true bliss. I've always wanted HUGE pics to cover my walls...perhaps like wallpaper....even if pricey and taken to a lab.
I love catching people unwares. Then you really get to admire them.
Anyhow...let me known what I can do to start a collection...your pre-code movie posters were unbelievable.
FYI...Marylin's roots were done every week by her loyal Ms. Flanagan.
I think the last photos that George Barris took of her are so lovely. She looked so happy that summer.
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I am on it as well. I may add that it would be great if they were not shown at 4 a.m. as well. I realize that during the day is inappropriate...but some of us do still do not have TEVO and my kids jam up our DVR with other items (and erase at will).
I love listening to R.O. introduce them and appreciate his expansive knowledge. Not at 4. in the morning. We need to see more of this genre. Not necessarily because we may see a booby or two...but I personally watch these in awe because of what I was told by my grandma of the then strict moral"ladylike" behavior and what bold acting by both sexes was really being documented. This is the history of film at its best. Movies were now talkies and Hollywod could have really "hypnotized" the audience with entertaining but an underlying moral movie. Now I know that the biz and the actors were uninhibited, already "over" the technology of sound and ready to let this art evolve faster. What a willingness to change at worp speed.
Let us see what has not been edited. What really was. I do not get to experience complete austerity very often. I want to see a cake before anyone licked the edge of frosting off.
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3/19 was the first time I saw the movie. WOW. The movie had a style I had never seen. Right from the point of celestial Lillian Gish and the chilren with prayer, I could not look away...esp because it was my first viewing. When I referred to "Now Playing" and saw that Charles Laughton directed it...then I was really intrigued.
I read below that he only directed one film...what a shame. He nailed American regionalism like Faulkner or Robert Frost. He also nailed the worst of human conditions and cruelty in a style that I did not expect for 1955.
Shelly-under-the-water ....hiw did this go over with audiences then?
The sets, photography as mentioned below, Mitchum's song and Gish's recitations proved that a deconstructionist/expressionist stlye flick, like literature at that time, if created as brilliantly as Laughton did...give the audience a wealth of emotions from which to consider, perhaps for days as it did me.
I must say...the British actor, who I believe, holds his classic roles hostage against any remake with any actor......surprised me with Night of the Hunter. Why didn't he direct more? Imagine what other visions he had.
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Izcutter...your are the best! Thanks for heads up on The Wet Parade! So much to learn about this enigmatic and delicious period of film. I feel silly for knowing nothing about the films mentioned (by you I believe) on the other thread. I'll learn....Last weeks films rattled me so much that I have to know all there is to know about these little gems.
So it was Beatrice. The photos I have seen of her have been drop-dead gorgeous. dark lipstick and the bob that could have been cut with a razor. total 20's package.
Hey..she morphed into her role so well that I thought the actress was a relative of Bea Arthur. She was a pro!
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To all Olivia threadlings. I guess this shows we want our treasures remembered! IZcutter made a good point about (them R.O, and Miss O) being friends and another a good point was made about the reality of their age, memories and perhaps the desire to not revisit certain events. Damn them for being human!
Beside the delightful Personal Screening info above...and despite 7/1 being Roz's day...I guess I still do not understand the occassional afternoon of B-Day movies devoted to one or the other and other birthdays gone unnoticed. No personal appearances necessary!
It's TCM not kindergarten for sure. Shouldn't there be some consistency? I just have to keep hammering at this thread's core....why are some lesser known actors honored with and movie afternoon and then what some would think as one of the best actors ever...nada.
I am sure there is reason.....I am as far away from understanding "the biz" as a newborn. But she's a living legend....a movie or two would be nice.
*TCM* dont let Miss Olivia, Miss Joan and others ever forget the mass number of fans they still have. They are the only witnesses to the making of what we love and write about here. I'm so glad that R.O. knows Miss Olivia and probably may others. Through him, (eviably) I am sure birthday desires are communicate to "the big guys".