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  1. There are some flashback sequences in the movie that allude to the past for Joe Buck, though these images may not convey easily to the audience (except for those who've read the novel).

     

    Joe was an illegitimate child born to a prostitute, frequently left in the care of other prostitutes through his early life. When he's getting older (age 9) he is dumped on his grandmother, Sally Buck, for the duration of his childhood. They become very close - probably a little too close.

     

    As a teenager, Joe lost his virginity to a town tramp named Annie. Annie would service many boys at the same time - half a dozen easily. This is when Joe first becomes convinced of his gift of "lovemaking" as Annie, for the first time, responds truly to him - and only him - of all the boys she's with. When the other boys realize that she favors Joe they angrily rape both of them - both Annie and Joe. One boy in particular is so enraged that he tells Annie's father everything about her and she is placed in an institution. The memories of this will continue to haunt the sweet-natured but not-too-bright Joe throughout his life.

     

    Joe joins the army and, while in it, Sally Buck dies. Joe becomes enormously distraught at the news of her death - so much so that the army releases him, not understanding why the death of a mere grandmother could knock a man off his feet that way. Joe is condemned to a life of low toil jobs - a situation he hates (as most of us would) and gets the idea that his lovemaking gift is the way to a better life.

     

    New York of the 60's was increasingly becoming a sewer of danger and depravity - in addition to housing the wealthiest and most privileged, a true schizoid city. The clean up was still more than a decade away and many of the movies of the late 60's through the entire 70's are testament to the city's scuzziest era.

     

    Both Rizzo and Buck are what's known as marginal people - people who are unconnected, unwanted, outsiders living on the fringes. Can we even begin to imagine the loneliness of lives like that? This is what brings this odd couple together and what feeds their growing affection for one another - they are a balm for each other's loneliness. Loneliness is very much a theme in this movie.

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  2. Sorry, but as much as I always want to do just THAT in times of personal crisis, I have a strict rule against performing such an outburst.

     

    (...and mainly because I know the guy famous for doin' that never lived long enough to receive his Oscar, and so call be "superstitious" here if ya want, BUT I'd like to live AT LEAST a few more decades before I take that long "dirt nap"!)

     

     

    Well, okay then. I guess the bad grammar will have to do.

  3. Well, according to DGF(and not that I'm disputing his contention here, you understand), but they sure seem to get "tired of fighting" after I post MY thoughts in 'em anyway! LOL

     

    I can't recall any thread getting shut down in which you were the cause - so I can't imagine where he's gotten that notion. Just another of his un-thought-out impulse posts, I expect.

  4. Gotta admit here dark that IF this is true, MAYBE some of us who seldom if ever start threads might be to blame for some of this.

     

    I mean I can't remember the last time I STARTED a thread, anyway.

     

    And I gotta admit, as repetitious and un-original as the many b!tching threads are, they do get a great deal of response. People never seem to get tired of fighting the fight - both sides.

  5. My guess Cid?! Well, after catching John McGiver's character in the first showing...

     

    ...the Brass on base probably thought this movie wasn't exactly proper fare for our boys in uniform!!!

     

    (...I mean you have to remember here that the early-'70s were YEARS before even the idea of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was a remote notion!!!) LOL

     

    And that's not even getting to Bob Balaban's small part in the movie.

  6. LOL

     

    REALLY, ND?! You're NOW using schlockmeister Irwin Allen's lame '60s(aka: "Lame Monster of the Week encounters 'flamboyant' Dr.Smith and the rest of the crew of the Jupiter-2") TV show in order to service your now apparent ubiquitous rants about "Traditional Family Values" and/or "How Hollywood is destroying the very fabric of American culture"????????

     

    (...what's next here, dude?...maybe positing the idea that "nobody knows how to truly rough it anymore since the demise of Sherwood Schwartz's "Gilligan's Island" from the CBS Television Network's Tuesday Night lineup"???????)

     

    LOL 

     

    That's nothing. He also thinks Mexican wrestler/vampire movies should be shown on TCM.

     

    Talk about dirt! No wonder he thinks "hollywood" is in decline.

  7. Ohhh-kaaayyy.

    what's done is done and the best that hollywood ever offered is long done.

    what does it say about us that a dumbed down hollywood can churn nothing out but complete garbage?

    not much.

    it's not garbage to the younger demo simply because in their young lives they've never seen anything but garbage.

    so they have no points of reference to see how what they like and appreciate is in actuality, garbage.

    someone once said in a coming of age comedy "everything changes. nothing stays the same."

    I understand that but perhaps the change has now gone too far.

     

    Maybe some people (like myself) are just a lot more choosy about the movies they seek out than you are. I look for movies of quality - I don't just stop at the ones with the most advertising behind them.

     

    I find modern movies to be far more compelling than those comfortable (and unchallenging) old shoes from the family-entertainment era of my grandparents.

  8. A "bounder" is a kind of rogue - flighty, charming, womanizing, sociable - who can't be tied down,  exchanging his sociable company for perks from associates (who've often been made to feel like they're friends) such as borrowings never repaid, temporary board, romantic dalliances and so forth.

  9. I always had the feeling that women kinda liked a "wolf".

     

    Not the same at all as a lech, or a cad, or a heel, or a creep. All red-blooded young men are, by default, wolves (in the sense of pursuing intimate activity with - usually - females).

     

    Lon Chaney Jr. (as Larry Talbot): Tonight the moon will rise and I'll become a wolf!"

    Lou Costello: Yeah, you and twenty million other guys."

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    Marijuana is holy weed, I shall not want.
    It maketh me lie down in green pastures with an illegal smile plastered across my face.
    It refreshes my soul and makes my head righteous.
    Even though I walk through the alley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am to stoned to worry.
    Its tops and flowers are the things that comfort me.
    It keeps me together in front of those with bad vibes.
    My pipe runneth over.
    Surely dope will get me through the times of no money better yet money will get me through the times of no dope.
    - Sammie Kelley

     

     

    What kind of fascist considers a smile to be illegal?

     

    A hypertense fascist.

  11. The state telling parents how to raise them and  this nonsense.

     

    A quote appears in the article that reads:

     

    One well-known collectivist echoed such sentiments when he said, "Let me control the textbooks and I will control the state. The state will take youth and give to youth its own education and its own upbringing. Your child belongs to us already... what are you?"

     

    Apparently it was said by Adolph Hitler, but when I read it the first thing that popped into my mind was the Texas School Board.

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