darkblue
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I think whomever started using this "apologist" word must have heard it somewhere, and somehow misguidingly decided that using it made him/her sound intellectual and can't give it up.
It's humorous that those who've latched onto using it don't seem to know what it means. I'm not aware that anyone here ever apologizes for TCM - there's nothing to apologize for.
Still, the malcontents will probably go on using it, what with not really being the brightest crayons in the forum box.
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For those who appreciate Jack Clayton's direction of this film, take note (and possibly circle your calendar) for Wednesday Nov. 12 at 6 pm. TCM has another of his disquieting, atmospheric titles - 'Our Mother's House' (1967) scheduled.
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Sure----you CAN gripe all you wish. Just please keep from griping about your griping NOT getting the results you WISH!
But it DOES.
If lots of people get annoyed, mission accomplished.
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fxreyman, I believe the story is best told by the Prime Time Schedule - as posted by Barton_Keyes in this thread:
http://forums.tcm.com/index.php?/topic/51003-31-days-of-oscar-2015-the-history-of-the-oscar/
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So wait, I can gripe here about things I don't like with TCM, or I can't gripe here about things I don't like with TCM?
Either way - who's stopping you?
It'd be a first for you to not be able to state your disaffected view of anything and everything, that's for sure.
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I'VE never noticed ANYBODY around these here parts attempting to stifle any or all those little "Oh, woe is me, because so many people 'pick on', i.e. 'flaming' me(and Fred, and a few others) around here for speaking my mind about how we prefer to watch movies made before 1960" kinds of posts that you post around here so often. Nope, all I've ever observed are others stating a contrary opinion from yours, THAT'S all.......so I might say I'M gettin' a little tired of it myself.....
Careful, Dargo. There's been quite a scrub job being done on posts in this thread this morning - especially on those posts that dared to speak truth about a certain member. That member's partner-in-malcontention may be similarly protected.
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My last two posts have been immediately taken down - though both were completely reasonable comments upon another silly post by our most loved member.
Has TopBilled been given the power to remove any post he wants to?
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Patti, it's nice to have you here.
I second that.
Your reasonable style of communication is nice to have, PattiTexas. We can use all the positive charm we can get.
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Most would probably be surprised by this distribution.. Many of the '30s films are aired weekdays during the day, while many are out earning a living.
TCM viewers are employable?
But seriously, you're right - TCM should save money and not run movies during weekdays.
Kidding.
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The segment of the viewing public that wants TCM to show only the films of the 30's, 40's and 50's will diminish to a greater and greater degree as time passes.
In another 2 decades we'll have gotten to the point where there'll be 3/4 of a century's worth of movies that don't fall into the "studio era" and most of those who are clinging nostalgically to a family-rated product from their studio-era youth will be less and less a part of TCM's audience.
TCM has no choice but to constantly change its mix - at least incrementally, a little at a time. Adapt or die. Every movie lover will be worse off if it's the latter.
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No, Per Dish, they state they don't guarantee you any channels.
They get everything their way.
I can just imagine what someone who signed a 2 year contract a month ago - just so they could get TCM - is going through right now.
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With Dish and Direct TV, they both require a 2 year contract. If cable was an option for us, we'd go with that.
Too bad they don't have to guarantee their channel lineup for those two years that you're locked in. They should - fair's fair.
If the lineup you signed up for should change, that should be grounds for you to get out of the contract.
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I've never had a satellite service - only basic cable. I can cancel any time I wish (though they will charge me for 30 days if I fail to notify them 30 days ahead of termination).
Is a contract necessary to receive service by satellite - like DISH?
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Thanks. What you say about TCM being unmatched rings true to me. One issue is this 'range of eras'; As time moves forward more films from the prior and current decade does mean less films from the older decades. But that being said, no other station still comes close to featuring movies from the studio-era, uncut, without commercials. Not even close.
So I guess that makes me a TCM apologist.
Don't call yourself that. Viewers who enjoy TCM have nothing to apologize for - and neither does TCM.
"Apologist" is nothing more than the more recently and greatly-used troll word being thrown at the board for the purpose of provoking a defensive reaction. That's the entire purpose of trolling - to provoke bad feeling just for the entertainment of a small, mean mind. Or two. As always.
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If they ever show these movies I hope it is the extended version of the movies, when you watch these you realize how much better movies can be sometimes with more, not less.
......................................................Film Theatrical edition length.............. Extended edition length
The Fellowship of the Ring............ 178 mins 208 mins........................... (228 with additional credits)
The Two Towers ............................179 mins 223 mins ...........................(235 with additional credits)
The Return of the King ...................200 mins 251 mins ............................(263 with additional credits)
Although 'Return' won an Oscar for Best Picture, I think that 'Two Towers' is the best movie of the three.
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Christina Ricci in 'The Ice Storm' (1997).
Frankly, there are several movies which can be cited for this superb actress.
As mentioned by skimpole, she was great in 'The Addams Family'. Her magnetism was in full force quite early, and that's the film where we first really noticed it.
'Monster' (2003) certainly comes to mind quickly as a tremendous supporting performance, as well.
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I knew Alicia Silverstone before she was a virgin.
Women just close up after they've met you, huh?
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It's completely insulting to regular TCM viewers who like TCM's broad programming to be repeatedly called "apologists".
An abusive accusation made over and over and over for the sole endeavour of trolling.
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At that time, producers in Hollywood felt there was a chance that Paul Le Mat might have the potential to become an A-list star, based on feedback from people who'd cited him as their favorite character from 'American Graffiti'. (He was certainly the coolest, and your 'James Dean' reference is appropriate).
Unfortunately for Paul, this vehicle - though heavily marketed at the time - was a critical failure, and didn't do much at the box office either (no word-of-mouth support from those who'd gone to see it).
And that was pretty much that - in terms of his shot at mega-stardom. But he's a decent actor and has worked steadily nonetheless.
I liked 'Aloha Bobby and Rose' - mostly because of the song (Bennie and the Jets) and the supporting performance turned in by Tim McIntire - a pretty cool actor best remembered for his pop-history turn as Alan Freed (who gave 'Rock and Roll' its name) in 'American Hot Wax' (1978). In a case of tragic irony, both the actor (Tim) and the DJ (Alan) would die in their early 40's.
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I'm glad DISH is not giving in since if they give in my cable company will be asked to pay more and that will increase what I have to pay per month.
I'd be wiling to pay a buck more a month if it meant getting TCM back.
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Nice job on that, Barton. Very useful, considering it's primetime that most viewers are actually ready to sit down and watch.
It's very interesting how this year TCM has scheduled the gradual, day by day, change in movie era - from the late 20's - early 30's on Day 1 to the 2010's on day 31. And very consistent. Those who only want "studio era" should be quite happy for the first 18 days, but then not so much the rest of the way. Those who have seen the studio era stuff more than enough by now can take the first couple of weeks to catch up on their reading and then banquet on the serving of new age for a couple of weeks.
I think I'm going to like this year's format.
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2:15 am on this week's 'Underground'.
It's rare chances like this that make me really appreciate TCM. I'll have the recorder all warmed up and ready to roll. Never seen this one before (to my remembrance).
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I don't think it's a matter of not being truthful. It's more a matter of opinion. I just don't see much evidence that James was a queen as it is commonly defined. When you add the word old to queen it does present a different mental picture, but even then I still don't see James as an old queen.
I guess "truthful" = wrong word?
Should've used "precise".
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When I had my book shop, the thrill was always going into a private library and seeing a mix of titles I knew were perennial sellers (the Faulkners and the Langston Hugheses, etc.) along with books I only got to buy maybe once a year: Early Orwell; Paul Carell's Eastern Front histories; Cartier-Bresson's The Decisive Moment; etc.
I would have loved to have gone into a house and found nothing but books from that latter category, but as a realist I knew that wasn't going to happen. The strategy was to turn away the junk, keep buying the better quality perennials, and have plenty of cash reserve to buy those collectors' items whenever they were offered.
Similarly, with TCM I'd love to have month after month of half a dozen TCM premieres a day, with the entire Criterion Collection shown straight through in all its glory and the entire Paramount and Monogram film libraries at my beck and call. I also know that this isn't going to happen, either.
But even now, after having recorded every first rate movie that looked the slightest bit interesting to me for the past 5+ years, I'm still finding at least a dozen or so movies every month that I'd never had before and which prove to be pleasant surprises. Even Oscar month looks like it'll give me a good half dozen, as well as scores of movies that might be worth a second or third watching. If this was my worst problem in life, I wouldn't have much to complain about.
I too record movies to dvd's every month. But there's rarely a dozen. My first preference is to use actual commercial dvd's as my sources, though - and that means bypassing many TCM opportunities. I like to record the commentaries and extras as well as the films themselves, you see - and I like to have a clean copy (no network badges on the screen).
But TCM can be (is) a good source for some hard-to-find-on-dvd titles (for me, with a limited budget and transportation difficulties), and I accept those opportunities with gratitude.
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Heartbroken, Dish CEO doesn't care about getting the Turner channels back
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I thought you were locked in, by contract. Did they agree to let you out of it?