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  1. It may not be the one to which you're referring, but for me the holy grail of British pop-music b/w movies is 'Play It Cool' (1962).

     

    I caught it once on the late, late show back around 1967 and loved it. I have a cd of the best of Helen Shapiro specifically because of this movie.

     

    Very, very few people have seen it since the 60's.

     

    I found it at IMDb, and Harry Whitehouse wrote in the comment section there, "In 2003, I was responsible for having the one remaining print of this film repaired and shown in a full-scale, traditional cinema for the first time in about 35 years."

     

    I want to see this again. Absolutely.

  2. Oh, c'mon now Sepia! How many times CAN you watch those firefights where the German soldiers are perfectly entrenched behind some fortified barricade, but for SOME dumb reason while engaged with Sergeant Sanders' platoon, they'd stand up and pop out of them ONLY to be gunned down by Sanders and his men???

     

    Yeah, only a soldier of the Third Reich would lose his nerve like that. That's reality at its most truthful, ay Dargs.

  3. This comment wasn't very professional:  "I think it’s actually written into some of our affiliate agreements.”

     

    He should actually KNOW.    I assume he does but just doesn't wish to be up-front about it.

     

    It's not really any of your business, is it? Whatever contracts TCM has with other businesses with regard to content or carrying costs are confidential to those parties.

     

    Your only "business" here is to watch what TCM provides through your carrier or not to watch what TCM provides through your carrier.

  4. you may THINK you're out of the woods before voicing your o.p.i.n.i.o.n., but you're not. Opinions are not tolerated on this board by one and all.

     

    Just because TikiSoo doesn't agree with his opinion doesn't mean she doesn't tolerate it.

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  5. Agreed, laffite.

     

    There's no such thing as ownership of a thread. Any posting in a public forum is subject to response by anybody.

     

    If one doesn't like this fact of life, one can use private messaging for one's discussions.

     

    But, if you put it out there in public, it's fair game.

  6. Something I might be in the minority on, however- while I like most of the movies I've seen with Fred, and respect him as an actor, I never thought he was particularly attractive. The idea of promoting him as a "hunk" leaves me puzzled. Fred MacMurray a sexy guy? Really?

     

    I've found that many women are attracted to what they term "big teddy bears". I believe Fred is one of those as opposed to what might be thought of as a "hunk".

  7. Maybe the strongest case for the ghosts being real is Miles' demise. It's just not believable that he'd die for any other reason than a supernatural one - I don't care how complex the psychological explanation postulated by William Veeder is.

     

    The prequel movie (1971's 'The Nightcomers') pretty much decides what's what. Here's my IMDb comment for that one:

     

    It's the Explanation

     

    For the inscrutable yet precocious personalities of Miles and Flora evident in the 1961 film 'The Innocents'. As well, the ghosts of that movie are fleshed out nicely in this prequel. Quint is a morally repugnant character, sadistic and controlling, but he's also darkly magnetic as the corrupter of the lovely young governess who submits to (and even embraces) his perverted ideas of sexuality. Together they are fated to become the imprisoned souls that haunt the estate. Together they have inflicted unknowable damage to the psyches of the children.

    Brando is very good in the role of Quint. He gives the character a credibility and powerfulness that one would expect from a personality who will ultimately refuse to leave, even after his bizarre death. Few actors would be convincing enough to portray such a reprehensible protagonist and still be vaguely, mysteriously likable. That Brando can deliver this affect with legitimacy is not surprising, genius that he is. Another who might have been very interesting to watch in this role is Dirk Bogarde.

    The director's visual styling of the film is it's most unfavorable aspect and prevents it from being excellent. In any case, this unusual little entry has always been a tad underrated. I suspect that now that Marlon has passed on an overdue re-assessment is likely.

     

     

  8. That kiss freaked a lot of people out. Britain declared the movie had to be rated X (which meant restricted to 16 and over) just because of that one very peculiar scene.

     

    And it's yet one more piece of evidence leading to the conclusion that the governess is kookoo.

  9. Fred MacMurray, the Body Beautiful?

     

    Here's something I didn't expect to find, a 1942 Photoplay magazine in which Fred was one of six finalists in the magazine's promotional "search" for the best male figure in Hollywood.

     

    Boy, physiques sure weren't as extreme for macho men as they are now.

  10. The first time I saw the movie, I pretty much accepted that it was a "real" ghost movie. However, on subsequent viewings I began to have some doubts. As I said before, the lady across the lake is quite convincing - but the claim of the kids to not know what the hell the governess is going on about when she sees the ghosts does instill doubt. Also, her over the top insistence makes me wonder about her nervous condition in general.

     

    Of course, this ambiguity is present in the novel that the movie is based on as well. Apparently, either "conclusion" is equally valid - and even Henry James himself resisted clarification on the matter.

     

    Here's something from Wiki:

     

    The dispute over the ghosts' reality has had a real effect on some critics, most notably Edmund Wilson, one of the first major proponents of the insane governess theory. Wilson eventually recanted his opinion after considering the governess's point-by-point description of Quint. Then John Silver pointed out hints in the story that the governess might have gained previous knowledge of Quint's appearance in non-supernatural ways. This induced Wilson to recant his recantation and return to his original opinion that the governess was delusional and that the ghosts existed only in her imagination.

     

    William Veeder sees Miles's eventual death as induced by the governess. In a complex psychoanalytic reading, Veeder concludes that the governess expressed her repressed rage toward her father and toward the master of Bly on Miles.

     

    Other critics, however, have strongly defended the governess. They note that James's letters, his New York Edition preface, and his Notebooks contain no definite evidence that The Turn of the Screw was intended as anything other than a straightforward ghost story, and James certainly wrote ghost stories that did not depend on the narrator's imagination. For example, “Owen Wingrave includes a ghost that causes its title character's sudden death, although no one actually sees it. James's Notebooks entry indicates that he was inspired originally by a tale he heard from Edward White Benson, the Archbishop of Canterbury. There are indications that the story James was told was about an incident in Hinton Ampner, where in 1771 a woman named Mary Ricketts moved from her home after the apparitions of a man and a woman day and night, staring through the windows, bending over the beds, and making her feel her children were in danger.

     

    Perhaps the critical perspective that best captures James's own thinking and methods, given the work's notably rococo style, which incessantly qualifies statements and counters any attempt at straightforward exposition, is that of Brad Leithauser:

     

    "All such attempts to 'solve' the book, however admiringly tendered, unwittingly work toward its diminution; its profoundest pleasure lies in the beautifully fussed over way in which James refuses to come down on either side... the book becomes a modest monument to the bold pursuit of ambiguity".

     

    According to Leithauser, we are meant to entertain both the proposition that the governess is mad and the proposition that the ghosts really do exist, and consider the dreadful implications of each.

  11. just before miles expires in deborah kerr's arms, she sees peter quint (peter wyngarde) laughing at her through some window panes. then moments later quint raises a hand from a parapet or something and miles kicks off. :)

     

    Yeah, that's real believable. I wonder how much quicker the kid woulda croaked if he'd been able to see the "ghost" too.

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