darkblue
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Come on-- let's make better choices, dark blue.
I like my choices. But, I think that's great advice for yourself.
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Reported for harassment...?
Why are you asking me? You're the "reporter" around here.
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I just wish they'd sell the rights and let some other entity release it.
They can't - no matter who else releases it, it'll always be their name on it.
When I was a child, I remember being at the library, sitting in a circle around a lady who was reading us the story of 'Little Black Sam bo'. I was absolutely delighted by the story - turning a tiger into butter by racing around a tree. We were all delighted. I didn't think the story was racist in any way at all. Just because the native African child was "black" - so what? It was great fun and very imaginative to us. But apparently that story can't be told in public anymore. (Apparently we can't even say the kid's name anymore, judging by the asterisks I got before I separated the letters).
Times change. What's deemed suitable for children has changed. Even though I have no problem with these old pieces of art, I still realize that their distribution is controlled by their rights owners. What's fed to kids publicly is a whole sub-category in the concept of censorship.
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Sounds like you are trying to intimidate two posters whose point of view you do not share. If you will look carefully at all my replies to you, I refrain from personal attacks. It certainly would be nice if you began to reciprocate the same courtesy.
Here we go again. Waahh - I can't keep up so someone must be being mean to me!
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I know. More's the pity.
I miss those days as well. The days of my childhood. I remember well being 6 years old at a cottage in Wasaga Beach in summer, lying in the dark in a big old bed with some of my slightly older aunts and maybe a cousin, giggling at a static-y radio show of 'Amos N Andy' - waiting for parents and uncles and their wives to come back to the cottage from their nitelife excursions. We'd always be sound asleep by the time they did.
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(I think these last few comments are parenthetical.)
Not my take on those British writers of opinion. I thought that point was pretty much on the money.
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Well.... years ago I met one who was parabolic.
He resembled a parabola? Was he born that way?
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Has anyone ever known British critics of the 20th century to be anything less than hyperbolic in the extreme?
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Thank you very much.
See, you're already becoming more like me.
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LOL. Yes sir. And I'll go back and un-watch the movie so I'll be just like you.
Dream on.
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I don't know what you are talking about. I told you what I meant, and see my post about the dollar scale. Also, see the movie so this discussion will become more clear to you..
Well, in future, take time to understand a post before replying to it and it'll help keep you on point.
No way I'm going to see the movie. Except for 'Bambi', I outgrew Disney movies before I was 10. And from the bits and pieces of it I have seen, it looks unutterably boring.
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You misunderstood my post. I was talking about the last part of your statement, about people not liking the film. This: "a criticism that they are attempting to propagandize children to unacceptable racial stereotypes."
I'd say you're the one who misunderstood. You highlighted my statement that "Disney's releasing of the movie is not worth the criticism they'd get - a criticism that they are attempting to propagandize children to unacceptable racial stereotypes".
So, it was clear that you didn't get why Disney believes it's not worth re-releasing the movie, even though I stated distinctly why. As to the 'why' - well, why do you think African-Americans who object to the movie object to it if not that? Remember my point that it is a movie for children when you consider your answer.
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We know there are non-blacks that probably don't like the film. And as we have already established earlier in the thread, there are blacks who do like it and do not find it controversial.
That's not the subject of my post. What Fred says he doesn't get is why Disney would feel it's not worth the blowback to re-release it. And you liked that.
It's such a simple thing to understand and yet you two apparently don't. Can you say "mental block"?
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I think it's fun. Just let your mind take it places. (So long as those places are in the gutter.)
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The British film journal Monthly Film Bulletin called it "the most sickening exhibition of brutality, perversion, sex and saucy little birds tarting about in their knickers ever to be shown on a cinema screen"
runner up:
The British film journal Monthly Film Bulletin called it "the most sickening exhibition of brutality, perversion, sex and seriously, the most depraved thing done to a sheep ever to be shown on a cinema screen"
Can't be any of those words. No asterisks.
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That doesn't mean that they shouldn't release it, since "between slim and none" would also describe the potential market for countless other "classic Hollywood" DVDs that routinely get released. It does mean that Disney might not think it's worth the aggravation.
Yep. How much is setting off some racial-watch organizational blowback worth to a company that markets its product to children?
Fred doesn't understand this simple reality and TopBilled "likes" Fred's inability to understand it. I guess both of them can't be bothered to discuss it with those African-Americans who do have a problem with the movie.
Now me, I've never seen the movie and wouldn't have a problem with it even if I had because I really don't care about "perceived racial stereotypes".
At all.
But that doesn't prevent me from knowing that others do and that Disney is factoring that in its decision to keep the movie vaulted.
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I don't understand how anyone could think this way.
A kind gentle old black man who tells funny and interesting stories to black and white children gathered around the fireplace at his house. A hero. A wonderful man. A problem solver. A man who has good advice for kids and helps them when they are in trouble. A Santa Claus in person.
Black and white kids playing together and don't notice they are black or white.
I just don't get it.
I think that people who don't want this film released today are people who don't want to admit that we can all socialize together and get along together.
I don't either. You'll have to talk to some African-Americans if you want to get it.
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It is no problem if Disney never releases 'SONG OF THE SOUTH' on DVD in the U.S. for 'MANDINGO' is out there and easily available on VHS or DVD for those seeking to watch a trashy, racial potboiler (literally!).
► Don't fret about not seeing Uncle Remus when you can watch Susan George and Ken Norton get it on.
There's a big difference. Disney product is marketed to children and families. 'Mandingo' is not.
Disney's releasing of the movie is not worth the criticism they'd get - a criticism that they are attempting to propagandize children to unacceptable racial stereotypes.
'Mandingo' is NC-17 - for adults, who presumably know what's what.
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the most sickening exhibition of brutality, perversion, sex and ****
So what word is being disallowed now? This filter is beyond ridiculous.
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Barclay James Harvest, from their 1976 album 'Octoberon'.
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they are my 'go tos' whenever tcm televises any turkeys.
That's most of the time for me. Though up here, there's no me or antenna-tv to watch. Not that I would, generally speaking - but I'd probably watch Svengoolie. I love old-timey horror hosts.
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What is frightening is president Henry Fonda telling an american general in an american nuclear bomber to nuke nyc. that lunacy renders the whole film nuts. what fonda shoulda said to the friggin' russian premier was "hey, you stupid jerks jammed our radio frequencies so tough schlitz".
I agree. No president, no matter the circumstances, would ever order the nuking of new york and 20 million U.S. citizens, no matter how stubborn and distrusting the Kruschev of the moment was. The americans had done everything possible to aid the Russians at that point and would draw the line at nuking themselves to prove a point. While the ending was chilling in a sense, it was also, as you say, lunacy. Not believable.
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You're way too sensible, joe. You're excused from the jury.
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i imagined you being a male.
and you referred to garbo has a 'he'?
Though it says Garbo, I still read it as Gable - as I felt sure that's who primos meant to reference.
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I know, midnight. I acknowledged she might have been great had she lived. But Joan Blondell and Barbara Stanwyck were outstanding when very young. I know Ann Harding and Evelyn Brent, thanks to TCM.
Yes, Harlow is well know, but why? Not because of her outstanding acting talent, but because she was unique (she was) and she had 'it' (not for me, but males, I imagine). That's fine, but at the same time, it would have been nice were Ann and Evelyn and Marian more well known. Yes, imo only.
As to Garbo, pfffffft, he was a star and an icon, but he was a one note actor, i.............m..............o. Well known doesn't mean talented, look at Tom Cruise.
Why? Because Una and May leapt off the screen - and how well known are they to anyone today? No, I don't think she outshone Marie Dressler in Dinner at Eight, Marie's scenes were Lionel were gut wrenching. Harlow was unique in the film, but it was Marie's comeback to Harlow, glorious Harlow with no bra, that was priceless.
No, I don't have to go back to anything since I disagree with this, I realize the public loved and adored her, but the public loved and adored Robin Williams too. The public's barometer of an actor means nothing to me.
Again, yes I wish she had lived, I wish more attention were paid to her health rather than to her bankability by the movie moguls and her own selfish mother. I sincerely believe she could have been a very good actor, she had moments when she wasn't being asked to be flat out shrill or sexual where she too leapt off the screen.
MOO, YMMV.
Well said.
Does anyone find SONG OF THE SOUTH (1946) offensive...?
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Cash would be great. Money orders too.