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I was fortunate to see the Beach Boys in concert in '79, when the three Wilson brothers were still together. Saw them again in 2000, but the only original member performing was Mike Love.
I saw them in '78 at Toronto's CNE. But we had lousy seats.
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You mean like endlessly posting after someone Yup....can result in a high post count, but useless basically. Definitely quantity with no quality involved.
No brainwork either.
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Post counts don't annoy people. People annoy people.
With post counts. And view counts.
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I want a thumbs down or dislike feature incorporated for the board. Keeps things humming.
But Jake, wouldn't your thumb contract gangrene from having too much blood in its tip all the time?
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Quality ...... is what's important.
Now, if the counts could reflect that , they might be worth having.
As it is now, they have no value whatsoever that I can see. They're just a tool that people can use to annoy others.
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With respect, I disagree with your points I've excerpted above. The words "productive" and "sharing" do not necessarily mean "positive" in terms of post numbers. One can be productive in terms of numbers by being totally insulting, or abusive, or just plain boring. The point I want to make is that there are NO value judgements that can be placed on the numbers, in terms of the content/quality of the posts.
Holy cow!
I had no idea he was here! Something tells me there's a helluva lot more people using "ignore" than just me.
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I have to confess that I don't think I can go with the majority on this. I've known situations where a teacher, or an employer, institutes a rule because of one naughty pupil or employee; I think that's overkill.
Statistics are useful at best and interesting at worst. All statistics need to be interpreted -- a substantive post in a conversational thread is different from a post in the Games section. (I'm not even sure one has more value than the other; at best each is fulfilling for the poster, and, one hopes, the reader). I don't see statistics being about value; rather, about engagement. And yes, some posters may compulsively go through every thread when they log on and feel obliged to comment. And some don't.
Is there at least one poster who has an exaggerated view of the value of statistics? Obviously. But I can't let one person's excesses dictate my feeling about the value of statistics on the one hand, or the interesting nature of statistics on the other.
Some thread titles "drop bombs." They encourage engagement because a few posters just want a good (and sometimes nasty) argument, and I haven't been above that myself. Other threads have posts so long (though not necessarily uninteresting) that one wants to echo Mae West's line to Harold Huber in Klondike Annie: "Can't you ever say anything the short way?" To which a verbose poster might well respond with Mantan Moreland's line from King of the Zombies: "Can I help it cause I'm loquacious?" A word-count statistic for each poster might be interesting! (Not that long posts are bad, in general. Sometimes they contain fascinating information. But sometimes (particularly in threads that are more about conversations than information posting) they just serve to make a thread so long that one doesn't go to previous pages, which leads to repetition.)
So, at the risk of making this post too long, I will repeat myself: Statistics are good at best; interesting at worst. Interpretation is needed, but even if it's not forthcoming or not accurate, the statistics themselves are still interesting and shouldn't be eschewed just because of one poster's bizarre infatuation with them.
[sepia: The registration date of each poster ("Member since...") is posted.]
At worst interesting?
Counts of posts and views can be clearly aggravating. Maybe disruptive would be a better word for the status of worst than is the word "interesting".
And these post/view counts hardly qualify as "statistics" in any meaningful sense of the word.
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Yeah, more like, on an average day, 45 active posters who actually participate here. In which case 21 out of 45 is pretty good !
Yep. Not too likely to come up with many names from the current roster of regular posters. There just aren't that many, are there?
But, we're getting some new members from that class, ay. Maybe they'll get annoyed enough eventually too.
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You mean "petition" as in this, db?
pe·ti·tionpəˈtiSH(ə)n/nounnoun: petition; plural noun: petitions- 1.a formal written request, typically one signed by many people, appealing to authority with respect to a particular cause."she was asked to sign a petition against plans to build on the local playing fields"
I guess so.
I don't think we have 1000 members though.
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Well, unless I'm misunderstanding, so far we've got only supporters of the idea than post and/or view counts should be done away with.
Arturo
Bogie56
Dargo
darkblue
EugeniaH
filmlover293
fxreyman
HelenBaby2
laffite
misswonderlytoo
mr6666
nakano
speedracer5
Stephan55
TheCid
TheGayDivorcee
TomJH
That's 17.
I can't really tell whether Mr. Gorman likes these counts or not. But he sure is funny pretending he does. Something tells me the count is 18.
I believe there was 1 who said it was a bad idea to not have these counts
18 to 1? In only about 9 hours we have an indication that lopsided?
Surely there must be somebody else who doesn't think post and/or view counts are a disruptive feature.
Anybody?....... Anybody?....... Bueller?
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No problems with you.
Sometimes, I just start reading without logging in to see what's new. Don't recommend this though as system does not show the star by threads upon which you have posted.
If you tick the "Remember Me" box when you sign in, you stay signed in all the time. You never have to log out or in again.
At least, that's the way it works for me.
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I can see this.
Should be noted that even if you have someone on ignore ( I have one on it), if you don't log in and just start reading posts, you will see the ignoree's posts. Also, if someone quotes the ignoree, you will see the post even if you are logged in. System just includes it under the new poster's post.
Why wouldn't you be logged in?
If you don't want to see my posts, log in for heaven's sake.
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They should remove number of posts and number of views. What purpose do they serve anyway?
There should also be limits on how many times someone can post per day or create threads per week. Although this may be hard to limit.
Unfortunatley there are threads that an OP keeps posting on apparently just to keep it on the first pages of New Content and General Discussions?
There should also be restrictions on use of today, tonight, tomorrow, etc. in thread titles unless accompanied by a date in the title.
Would be helpful if more people responded only to the thread title rather than going off in a different direction.
None of this should require a petition. Removal of post counts and view counts should just be removed.
You know what would make me a happy camper?
Reciprocity.
I've had a certain member on ignore for months now. Isn't that how our moderators recommend we handle people who offend us?
I stay out of his threads. I don't post in them. I don't read his posts. I don't address him directly - EVER. So far as I know, this is a permanent policy for me. As such, I never endanger his topics - his threads aren't shut down because of me.
And yet I'm being told by members that my threads are constantly under attack - that there's frequently an effort to poison them and get them shut down.
I sure wish administration would force this member to stay out of mine the way I stay out of his. It's only fair.
A reciprocal "ignore" directive. Now, there's a feature I could get behind.
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(...btw and speaking of "a man knowing his limitations"...back around '79, I once boarded Clint Eastwood on a flight...nice enough fella too, as I recall)
Bet you made his day.
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I think he fell into that Vincent "Vinnie" Barbarino thing..
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While it's fine to express an opinion about post count and/or views, please keep personal comments out of the discussion.
Thank you for saying that. Every time I start a topic someone comes in and tries to make it personal. I had a wonderfully popular thread about how people define "troll" lost the other day because of that sort of sabotage.
I'm getting a little tired of having my topic creations endangered that way.
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Fred, don't give up your day job lol.
Day job?
Dude, he's 96 years old.
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This is turning into a name-dropping competition.
Too bad Philly has no names there for you to meet.
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Well, it's believable because Travolta's character in the movie is stupid.
Come to think of it - an awful lot of the characters he plays are stupid. He's well-suited to play those for some reason.
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So what's next week, Tom?
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One thing is the post counts, which in and of themselves are not a bad thing. Another is to start threads gloating about how many post counts a thread has, or a poster has. This is shamelessly self-serving, ans has NOTHING to do with discussion of classic film, TCM, etc.
Evidently, you can't have one without the other. Some people are so desirous of self-glorification, you'll always have that shamelessness if the counts are allowed to remain.
But, there may only be 2 or 3 people who feel this way about it. I've never counted. I've just seen a dozen or more posts about how some find this to be a nauseating brag source. So I was wondering.
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While sometimes petitions work and sometimes they don't, it never hurts to start a petition if one feels strongly about it.
In the National Film Registry for example, while choosing films for preservation, some films are unanimously agreed upon and with other films, people have to fight for their inclusion. Back to the Future for example, was inducted into the National Film Registry after a massive internet campaign was held where fans petitioned the National Film Registry members to induct Back to the Future into their pantheon of films which "ensure the survival, conservation, and increased public availability of America's film heritage."
Right now, there are similar online petitions going to get The Quiet Man, Die Hard and many other films inducted. Only time will tell to see if these campaigns are ultimately successful.
It's true that they sometimes do and sometimes don't.
I'm just asking a question - prompted by a number of posts I've read that are disparaging of these post counts. Wondering how widespread that disaffection is - and if it's the common sentiment, whether a petition to TCM Forums might be the way to go.
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I view the Willis character as the 'glue' for this movie and his character and what is happening to him is the most interesting part of the film. Well acted by Willis. He was still Bruce but he didn't try too hard like he does in Die-Hard (ok silly pun!).
Well, no surprise there. Bruce has steadily become a better actor than he was.
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Planned to watch. Fell asleep and missed.
Maybe next time, if there is one.
But whatever you do, don't stop making your recommendations, Tom.
I'm not always too sleepy to make the most of them - and yours are always worth listening to.
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